Messier demanded #11. #11 was unofficially retired by the Canucks to honor Wayne Maki (An Original Canuck), who had died in 1974 due to brain cancer. Just one of many reasons why us Canucks fan hate Messier.
I think the biggest things that explain the hatred is the tear down of the core (including Linden) by Mike Keenan acting GM+Coach after a shitty start to the 94-95 season.
It wouldn’t be so bad if the league didn’t constantly remind us all that this guy is one of the all time great “leaders” of the game… when his actions/play during his tenure in VAN showed the opposite. That’s why it’s so annoying. I don’t deny he was a great leader on other teams, but he wasn’t on the Canucks and that’s just a fact.
57:36 Why I dislike Messier as a sympathetic non-Canucks fan is because he took #11 which was unofficial retired because it had been worn by Wayne Maki who died of brain cancer. Come on guys I'm not even Canadian and I know this. I could spend a few hours typing all the other reasons I don't like Messier but I'll save it.
11:16 Already noted, but Mathieu Olivier is the Fourth Line RIGHT Winger, and he was asked about it on a French-language radio station and said that he was never asked for pictures, and that the meeting with Babs went well. To add another name to the mix, Zack Werenski just went on 97.1 The Fan today in Columbus and said that the couldn't get the screen share to work, so they just talked.
They’d rather just keep talking about it even tho they point out it wouldn’t be an issue if another coach did it. Only disgruntled ex players are complaining at this point from what I can see.
@@jaredhoff8601 I don't think they even brought up Bill Daly's comments; even now, when the head of the NHLPA is heading to Columbus TO DO HIS JOB, everyone's assuming that things MUST be worse than already reported.
I’ve always disliked Biz and the Chiclets podcast. They’ve said many incredibly wrong and inflammatory things. I’m not taking Babcock’s side, because I don’t like either side
I mean, Biz has always been a players guy, and a very emotionally driven guy. So if he still thinks Babs is bad, if he hears ANYTHING that could be controversial, it could absolutely be in his interests to try and make Babs the bad guy, rightly or wrongly, because he believes that by doing so he is protecting the other players.
20:36 So an anonymous text from a guy who is clearly not on the team, saying that they heard from someone on the team, ie reiterating the same story that they told before.
It's so blatantly obvious that the text is from Commodore that it's comical. Like just admit you over exaggerated the story at this point. SC guys are losing so much credibility over their hate boner for Babcock.
We're missing a key factor. In order for there to be pants in the lost and found someone has to first lose their pants at Wonderland. How does that happen?
The more details that come out about the Babcock thing the more it just really sounds like a stretch. At worst it just seems like a boomer ice breaker activity
I'm just appreciative that a small, dumb joke about feet people from a draft twitch stream two years ago managed to survive as an in-joke in this podcast 😂
What a terrible take saying that Biz wouldn't be motivated to generate clicks by sensationalizing this story. I've never known media outlets, newspapers, or anything like that regardless of size that didn't post shocking headlines or stories to generate buzz for their outlet. Talk about blind, of course Bizz would be motivated to get people talking about his podcast and get people to watch their show. I know you don't like Babs, but holy man, let's just blindly take the word of unnamed players or anonymous players over players directly disputing what's being said.
As a young boy, my mother took me to a Leafs-Sabres game at the War Memorial Auditorium in Buffalo. I recognized King Clancy at a concession stand, struggling in anonymity to balance a coffee on the edge of a counter, while he wrestled with a hotdog wrapper & a packet of ketchup. I innocently walked up in my peewee hockey jacket & asked for an autograph. He angrily looked up & snapped “Do you know who I am?” And I timidly replied “King Clancy?” He paused for a moment & then smiled at me. He forgot all about the coffee & hotdog to sign my program & ask about what team I played for & what position I played. I’ve never forgotten this encounter.
Steve saying he would have felt uncomfortable talking about his familly but has a podcast where he talk about his familly all the time and shared picture of his son.sure steve sure......
Can anyone explain why so many people like Bissonnette, he just seems like a massive tool. The homophobia of "Why you wanna see penis on your player phone?" and misogyny of the rest just irks me
Franky Corrado broke this Torts Babs comp down where he said Torts is tough old school honest and in your face while Babs is old-school and tough but he isn't direct or honest and plays mind games with his players as a weird motivational tactic. Players would rather you yell and scream in their face calling them out then screwing with their heads to see if they figure it out.
The thing with Jarmo is, he's an excellent drafter and a shrewd trader (has both hits and misses but overall pretty solid). His two weaknesses as a GM has been in picking a coach and re-signing players. The latter is partially due to some players just wanting to go to bigger markets, which isn't Jarmo's fault really. But it's also due to the fact that he seems to always want to pick hard-nosed coaches that employ a 90's style of play. Not that there's anything wrong with trying to emphasize hard work and professionalism, but there does seem to be a consistent theme of the Jackets always having a mediocre unimaginative offense that relies completely on a stiffling defense and solid goaltending. Changing that constant repetition may require wholescale office changes for the organization.
36:49 And were the Maple Leafs pre-Keefe and the 2000s Red Wings a "squeeze blood from the stone, block shots, all defense" team? No, they were not. All those great young prospects that you preface before tearing into Jarmo are the result of trying to build a different team. Why do you think Kent Johnson and Jordan Dumais were drafted if all Jarmo wants is grit and sandpaper?
I will say, after I started my job at a very large corporation, I was encouraged to create one PowerPoint slide to introduce myself during the monthly all-hands (along with all the other new hires from the previous month). Most people included family pictures, hobbies, previous jobs, and fun facts. My understanding is these sorts of “introduce yourself to the team” things are pretty common across corporate America. *If* it was done like that, I don’t really see what Babcock did as strange or out of line necessarily.
Totally agree, but other than the original story from Chiclets, has there been anything to suggest he did scroll through their camera roll? It seems like not even Dangle is suggesting that part was accurate...
I had a co-op at Stare Farm years ago and the manager had just read The Secret and to encourage embracing change she had everyone in the office paint their nails a different colour every day for a month, including sending pictures of our new paint colour on weekends. I was the only guy in the office which somehow meant I got to paint my toes instead of my fingernails. So I spent a month barefoot at the office and sending foot pics to my boss. It was an interesting co-op that convinced me not to work in insurance.
I am not a fan of Babcock at all, but in a comparison from the average persons experience how often would you expect to run into your coworkers family? How much different is that for highly paid athletes where they have specific sections or boxes for family to use or specific Fathers/Mothers trips with the team? I can see the perspective of trying to get to know your players family for the occasions where they would be in the building/hallway vs the average joe who may only have that happen once a year at a "company" picnic or something.
Not a Babcock fan but we also have to consider that a former player or players that don't like him may have exaggerated in an attempt to get back at him. Or a player that doesn't want to play for him said something as well
I manage a large group of people. I would never ask them either individually or as a group to share details of their families or private lives with me. I would certainly listen with interest anything they chose to share with me of their own volition, but to actually ask for it is a very different thing.
He took number 11 that was unofficially retired, took the c from linden, basically made the team trade bure linden and McLean, left the team after playing like crap, then sued the team for money
I’m sorry but two things can be true: Babcock isn’t a good man and shouldn’t be coaching. But, this story seems like a nothing burger probably put forth by people who dislike Babcock.
Steve hit the nail on the head on the fact that Babcock released a statement and some went, "Oh, then that's that." He should've left this family presentation stuff in the past. It's just cringe.
I'm pretty confident that Biz has just blow this out of context to gain attention, even though he already has massive success in the podcasting world and in hockey in general. Success and money doesn't mean you stop wanting it, it's quite the opposite. Now, Babcock has been a horrible coach to several players but that doesn't mean you can smear his reputation further by possibly misrepresentating what actually happened. It will be interesting seeing where this goes but my hunch is Biz is bullshitting. Edit. Apparently I was wrong.
I think the Adam Lowry choice was a good one. Always love seeing a depth guy who’s not a big name captain a team. You can always tell watching the jets that he works his balls off pretty much nightly.
I think it's weird, but I highly doubt it was done maliciously. I just don't find that it makes sense logically that it went down the way Biz says it did. Like what would Babs gain from seeing family photos besides trying to get to know you? Also Mathieu Olivier said he wasn't asked for photos in a french interview. Werenski said it was nothing. This whole thing just seems like a nothing burger blown up because of who he is.
Blue Jackets identity btw is young highly skilled guys trying to learn how to win on a nightly basis right now. With big offensively talented dmen to help them move the puck.
i suspect if the coach's name wasnt mike babcock, this story would be treated as a somewhat endearing effort for an older guy to try and relate to his younger team and get some good vibes amongst the team. mental health boost etc etc..
I'm guessing the reason people believed the blue jackets so quickly was the leak specifically mentioned jenner as the one being made uncomfortable, so him speaking out makes that look immediately wrong. If the leak just said an unidentified player(s) I would not be so quick to accept the jackets story
I think MANY coaches' reputations are overblown. Was Babcock good in detroit? Or were prime Datsyuk and Zetterberg a nice compliment to Niklas Lidstrom (whose norris run is similar in consistency to hasek's vezina run) OH AND THEN ALSO DOMINIK FRIGGIN HASEK WAS THERE FOR GOOD MEASURE. And then was Dan Byslma a great coach? Or was it maybe just obvious that you should find a prime malkin and crosby and give them linemates who can skate fast and then stand in the right place while there are two other first overall picks I'm not even mentioning?
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1. Dave Portnoy 2. Andrew Tate 3. Jim Jordan With all three of these guys, I feel like their reaction to it happening would be hilarious, but their reaction to not being able to do anything about it would be INCREDIBLE.
Aaahhh the Connor McDavid photos are just classic bad lighting (and that was soooo easily fixed with a better setup, this is just silly, would have gladly worked on it. Btw: Steve, Jessy and Adam, would love to help out on your studio lighting as well as it can be done ✅ …🎉😅. Love the podcast of course and ❤ to all hockey fans out there (GLG).
doesn't matter a regular head boss or manager at whatever circumstance or whatever job you work in will not ask you to show photos in your phone album to see what type of person you are. Does not matter whether its family or dick pics or whatever personal photos it is. No head boss or manager will ask to see personal photos whether public or personal or not to build work relationship. PERIOD! whether you work a 8-4 or 5-9 job. Or whatever job, retail, restaurant, business, or not! PERIOD! you don't go through employee photos no matter what it is
You're arguement to say that "Biz doesn't have enough to gain from this is being over exaggerated" is like saying "CNN and Fox News wouldn't use clickbait!"...
Hockey players respect who? Generally the biggest group of entitled bullies and jerks. Not saying babs is innocent, media reports on rumours as fact. Say the players name or its all babcock hate for no direct reason. He should have never been brought back to the nhl …. But there is nothing wrong with getting to know the people you work with.
I think the boys mistepped in not acknowledging their own bias. Especially Adam and Steve, normally they seem to at least have read most of the relevant information, but in this case with Babcock they clearly haven't. All summer there have been intrrvirws and reports with Babcock about his mentality change and his decision to focus more on mental health of his players. Now, whether or not he is going to be any good at implementing that is another matter, but he has still made an effort to change, and there is public record of his acknowledgement to do so. People can try to change and be unsuccessful, but assuming someone tries, you need to give them a chance
Was Babcock always like this though? Have you taken a look at what he did to the red wings players? Franzen had concussion issues and then had to deal with this guy’s abuse. Chris Chellios was on that Red Wings team and has nothing but hatred for the man. I’m just saying…
I chatted with Johnny Bower at charity events a few years ago, and he was the sweetest man. At one, his handler asked if Johnny could sit for a moment at our auction table, and of course I said yes. At another, he was perusing the auction items up for grabs, and commented quietly that it was a bit chilly. I offered to get him a sweater.
The thing about Babcock is that people in positions of leadership absolutely need to understand and respect the power differential in the room. If he can't, or won't, do that, he's a terrible leader. That's the bottom line. If he is doing it on purpose, he's a bully. If he's not, he's ineffectual and an idiot. Either way is not a good look.
wonder why none of you guys included the "if you don't own a Lambo by the age of 20-smth, you're a loser" dude on your 'Do a No. 2 in their car' list? :)
Mike Keenan was a horrible coach / GM for the Canucks and made moves that clearly made the team worse. However, Mark Messier also sided with Mike Keenan, alienating the other players and the fans. It was terrible.
Before covid, the WWE rosters were flush...there was a variety of matches performed and available to perform. After the series, of cuts over the last 4 years, the same wrestlers fought each other too often...boring.
Fix the paint on the wall behind adam please. Love the podcast, just my OCD being triggered haha All you can see is the white spots when on his camera and you can also see them on the main camera
I'm from Brantford and had met Walter Gretzky multiple times before his passing (at hockey tournaments, random Tim Horton's and McDonald's, etc.) and he is one of the absolute nicest person anybody could have ever met
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Maybe you guys should do an ounce of research when wondering why Messier is hated as a captain in Vancouver... Imagine if Marchand (can't really think of an equivalent) became a Leaf and the following happened: 1. Takes Salming or someone who has an emotional connection related to them's jersey # (without consulting the family). 2. Refuses to live in the GTA (condo and commute billed to the team). 3. Gets Shanny to fire Treliving and Keefe and replaces them with Chiarelli and Julien. 4. Takes the captaincy from Tavares and then gets him traded. (Linden was held at a higher regard but whatever). 5. The team becomes absolute trash right away and you lose other important players. 6. Leaves the team in shambles three years later. That is probably the darkest time in Canucks history and that includes the 80s!
I know blowing stories out of proportion is bloggers' / podcasters' job, but the Babcock story is literally nothing being made into something (admittedly about a coach with a track record that makes him an easy target). The guy shows pictures of his family, asks players and other co-workers to talk about their families (and voluntarily show pictures of their families). That's it. Biz wants to drum up controversy, but this is not a case of Babcock invading people's privacy and forcing them to show the pictures on their phones. It's about voluntarily showing pictures of their families. Good lord, obviously not much hockey news these days.
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Messier demanded #11. #11 was unofficially retired by the Canucks to honor Wayne Maki (An Original Canuck), who had died in 1974 due to brain cancer. Just one of many reasons why us Canucks fan hate Messier.
He also didn’t try very hard during his tenure here
I think the biggest things that explain the hatred is the tear down of the core (including Linden) by Mike Keenan acting GM+Coach after a shitty start to the 94-95 season.
It wouldn’t be so bad if the league didn’t constantly remind us all that this guy is one of the all time great “leaders” of the game… when his actions/play during his tenure in VAN showed the opposite. That’s why it’s so annoying. I don’t deny he was a great leader on other teams, but he wasn’t on the Canucks and that’s just a fact.
We knew that and we’re just 3 idiots in a room lmao great episode bois!
Naming a leadership award after a player who one team considers the worst leader they ever had is just soooo NHL
Yzerman and Sakic were the leaders which Mark Messier is portrayed to be; seriously heard so many stories of him being rather cold and unfriendly
Should've been the Jean Béliveau trophy
Unreal point lol
That’s why we will have a Gary Bettman Leadership Award for Excellence soon… of course, Gary will have to approve it
@@J-Rock12the bettman award would be for teamwork and building unity through empathy. 😂
Adam & Jesse : *Open with a discussion about etiquette for s****ing yourself in public* for 2 whole minutes
Steve: ...This is my life now.
SDPN should mean the Steve Dangle Poop Network from now on
57:36 Why I dislike Messier as a sympathetic non-Canucks fan is because he took #11 which was unofficial retired because it had been worn by Wayne Maki who died of brain cancer.
Come on guys I'm not even Canadian and I know this.
I could spend a few hours typing all the other reasons I don't like Messier but I'll save it.
11:16 Already noted, but Mathieu Olivier is the Fourth Line RIGHT Winger, and he was asked about it on a French-language radio station and said that he was never asked for pictures, and that the meeting with Babs went well. To add another name to the mix, Zack Werenski just went on 97.1 The Fan today in Columbus and said that the couldn't get the screen share to work, so they just talked.
They’d rather just keep talking about it even tho they point out it wouldn’t be an issue if another coach did it. Only disgruntled ex players are complaining at this point from what I can see.
@@jaredhoff8601 I don't think they even brought up Bill Daly's comments; even now, when the head of the NHLPA is heading to Columbus TO DO HIS JOB, everyone's assuming that things MUST be worse than already reported.
the third consecutive show talking about shitting your pants in a public space. great show guys 🤣🤣🤣
I legitimately lost track whether this was show 2 or 3 in a row of pants shitting. Thank you for your service 💩
THIS IS THE TYPE OF CONTENT I SIGNED UP FOR 😎
Steve Dangle Poocast
Im all for it🤣🤣
I’ve always disliked Biz and the Chiclets podcast. They’ve said many incredibly wrong and inflammatory things. I’m not taking Babcock’s side, because I don’t like either side
I mean, Biz has always been a players guy, and a very emotionally driven guy. So if he still thinks Babs is bad, if he hears ANYTHING that could be controversial, it could absolutely be in his interests to try and make Babs the bad guy, rightly or wrongly, because he believes that by doing so he is protecting the other players.
20:36 So an anonymous text from a guy who is clearly not on the team, saying that they heard from someone on the team, ie reiterating the same story that they told before.
It's so blatantly obvious that the text is from Commodore that it's comical. Like just admit you over exaggerated the story at this point. SC guys are losing so much credibility over their hate boner for Babcock.
McDavid almost always looks pissed off, but, sometimes he looks like he has someone else's spit in his mouth. Which really pisses him off.
35:09 JD was rehired after the bubble season fam, you clearly forgot the part where he was working with the Rangers.
We're missing a key factor. In order for there to be pants in the lost and found someone has to first lose their pants at Wonderland. How does that happen?
either you went there wearing swim trunks under your pants to go to the waterpark later and then left in a hurry, or you're just "that guy"...
@@brokesy3515 that makes sense. I always forget about the water park. I'm one of those Olds that remembers a time before they had it.
The more details that come out about the Babcock thing the more it just really sounds like a stretch. At worst it just seems like a boomer ice breaker activity
I'm just appreciative that a small, dumb joke about feet people from a draft twitch stream two years ago managed to survive as an in-joke in this podcast 😂
I feel like a joke that doesn’t get made enough is that the team who is literally named “jets” doesn’t have an airport
What a terrible take saying that Biz wouldn't be motivated to generate clicks by sensationalizing this story. I've never known media outlets, newspapers, or anything like that regardless of size that didn't post shocking headlines or stories to generate buzz for their outlet. Talk about blind, of course Bizz would be motivated to get people talking about his podcast and get people to watch their show. I know you don't like Babs, but holy man, let's just blindly take the word of unnamed players or anonymous players over players directly disputing what's being said.
As a young boy, my mother took me to a Leafs-Sabres game at the War Memorial Auditorium in Buffalo. I recognized King Clancy at a concession stand, struggling in anonymity to balance a coffee on the edge of a counter, while he wrestled with a hotdog wrapper & a packet of ketchup. I innocently walked up in my peewee hockey jacket & asked for an autograph. He angrily looked up & snapped “Do you know who I am?” And I timidly replied “King Clancy?” He paused for a moment & then smiled at me. He forgot all about the coffee & hotdog to sign my program & ask about what team I played for & what position I played. I’ve never forgotten this encounter.
I really hate that I thought the conclusion of this story was going to be you shitting your pants. Congrats on maintaining your composure! 👑
Steve saying he would have felt uncomfortable talking about his familly but has a podcast where he talk about his familly all the time and shared picture of his son.sure steve sure......
Can anyone explain why so many people like Bissonnette, he just seems like a massive tool. The homophobia of "Why you wanna see penis on your player phone?" and misogyny of the rest just irks me
Hey I just wanted to say that I appreciate yall ditching you can bet that! The show is better for it! Love you guys!
did they discuss ditching them? or was it just a commercial decision
Oh you mean you can skip that
Did somebody say skip?
You do realize that’s part of how they get paid and get to bring us their content right? No different than a commercial.
Doesn’t it still exist on the CJ show?
Franky Corrado broke this Torts Babs comp down where he said Torts is tough old school honest and in your face while Babs is old-school and tough but he isn't direct or honest and plays mind games with his players as a weird motivational tactic. Players would rather you yell and scream in their face calling them out then screwing with their heads to see if they figure it out.
hearing Maddy laughing in the background makes the show even better
The thing with Jarmo is, he's an excellent drafter and a shrewd trader (has both hits and misses but overall pretty solid). His two weaknesses as a GM has been in picking a coach and re-signing players. The latter is partially due to some players just wanting to go to bigger markets, which isn't Jarmo's fault really. But it's also due to the fact that he seems to always want to pick hard-nosed coaches that employ a 90's style of play. Not that there's anything wrong with trying to emphasize hard work and professionalism, but there does seem to be a consistent theme of the Jackets always having a mediocre unimaginative offense that relies completely on a stiffling defense and solid goaltending. Changing that constant repetition may require wholescale office changes for the organization.
36:49 And were the Maple Leafs pre-Keefe and the 2000s Red Wings a "squeeze blood from the stone, block shots, all defense" team? No, they were not. All those great young prospects that you preface before tearing into Jarmo are the result of trying to build a different team. Why do you think Kent Johnson and Jordan Dumais were drafted if all Jarmo wants is grit and sandpaper?
Right, Adam made this point a while ago aswell and it just doesnt't make any sense. What's their identity? Drafting good players, at this point.
@@samsid3701 He also said that the guy who traded Keegan Kolesar for the pick that became Alexander Texier (ie Jarmo) only drafts tough guys
Ngl. I prefer you guys over spittin chiclets ❤
I will say, after I started my job at a very large corporation, I was encouraged to create one PowerPoint slide to introduce myself during the monthly all-hands (along with all the other new hires from the previous month). Most people included family pictures, hobbies, previous jobs, and fun facts. My understanding is these sorts of “introduce yourself to the team” things are pretty common across corporate America. *If* it was done like that, I don’t really see what Babcock did as strange or out of line necessarily.
Creating a PowerPoint of your choice is not comparable to asking someone for access to phone and scrolling through their camera roll
Totally agree, but other than the original story from Chiclets, has there been anything to suggest he did scroll through their camera roll? It seems like not even Dangle is suggesting that part was accurate...
I had a co-op at Stare Farm years ago and the manager had just read The Secret and to encourage embracing change she had everyone in the office paint their nails a different colour every day for a month, including sending pictures of our new paint colour on weekends. I was the only guy in the office which somehow meant I got to paint my toes instead of my fingernails. So I spent a month barefoot at the office and sending foot pics to my boss. It was an interesting co-op that convinced me not to work in insurance.
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I am not a fan of Babcock at all, but in a comparison from the average persons experience how often would you expect to run into your coworkers family? How much different is that for highly paid athletes where they have specific sections or boxes for family to use or specific Fathers/Mothers trips with the team? I can see the perspective of trying to get to know your players family for the occasions where they would be in the building/hallway vs the average joe who may only have that happen once a year at a "company" picnic or something.
Not a Babcock fan but we also have to consider that a former player or players that don't like him may have exaggerated in an attempt to get back at him. Or a player that doesn't want to play for him said something as well
I manage a large group of people. I would never ask them either individually or as a group to share details of their families or private lives with me. I would certainly listen with interest anything they chose to share with me of their own volition, but to actually ask for it is a very different thing.
He took number 11 that was unofficially retired, took the c from linden, basically made the team trade bure linden and McLean, left the team after playing like crap, then sued the team for money
I’m sorry but two things can be true: Babcock isn’t a good man and shouldn’t be coaching. But, this story seems like a nothing burger probably put forth by people who dislike Babcock.
Steve hit the nail on the head on the fact that Babcock released a statement and some went, "Oh, then that's that." He should've left this family presentation stuff in the past. It's just cringe.
Hierarchical is a word, Steve. 😅
I'm pretty confident that Biz has just blow this out of context to gain attention, even though he already has massive success in the podcasting world and in hockey in general. Success and money doesn't mean you stop wanting it, it's quite the opposite. Now, Babcock has been a horrible coach to several players but that doesn't mean you can smear his reputation further by possibly misrepresentating what actually happened. It will be interesting seeing where this goes but my hunch is Biz is bullshitting.
Edit.
Apparently I was wrong.
Yikes
I think the pooping needs a investigation so jesse has to go to Canada's Wonderland and poop his pants
Ya Think they watch CNN?
I'd love it if you guys were able to add a corner cam of you guys when you show something on the computer fullscreen
Why are the Kansas City Royals and the Oakland A's so horrible?
High energy Adam is my favorite thing !
Kinda rich to hear them talk about people needing media literacy and acting like a podcast host doesn’t want to grow their audience
Unfortunately these guys could have a bigger podcast if they weren't dimensional Leaf homers.
@KingMagikarp95 you took the words right outta my mouth. That's exactly what I was thinking about.
I think the Adam Lowry choice was a good one. Always love seeing a depth guy who’s not a big name captain a team. You can always tell watching the jets that he works his balls off pretty much nightly.
The argument that Biz can't be doing things for clicks because they're already getting clicks is absolute nonsensical
Sarcasm
Shitting your pants is a real shitty experience.
I think it's weird, but I highly doubt it was done maliciously. I just don't find that it makes sense logically that it went down the way Biz says it did. Like what would Babs gain from seeing family photos besides trying to get to know you?
Also Mathieu Olivier said he wasn't asked for photos in a french interview. Werenski said it was nothing. This whole thing just seems like a nothing burger blown up because of who he is.
Blue Jackets identity btw is young highly skilled guys trying to learn how to win on a nightly basis right now. With big offensively talented dmen to help them move the puck.
Ngl I think the Babcock part is kinda bias
Yay! I can be that annoying person who says first
LOL you get a thumbs up!
you guys are so desperate to vilify babcock.
i suspect if the coach's name wasnt mike babcock, this story would be treated as a somewhat endearing effort for an older guy to try and relate to his younger team and get some good vibes amongst the team. mental health boost etc etc..
I'm guessing the reason people believed the blue jackets so quickly was the leak specifically mentioned jenner as the one being made uncomfortable, so him speaking out makes that look immediately wrong. If the leak just said an unidentified player(s) I would not be so quick to accept the jackets story
Him speaking out looks like damage control from team pr
I think MANY coaches' reputations are overblown. Was Babcock good in detroit? Or were prime Datsyuk and Zetterberg a nice compliment to Niklas Lidstrom (whose norris run is similar in consistency to hasek's vezina run) OH AND THEN ALSO DOMINIK FRIGGIN HASEK WAS THERE FOR GOOD MEASURE. And then was Dan Byslma a great coach? Or was it maybe just obvious that you should find a prime malkin and crosby and give them linemates who can skate fast and then stand in the right place while there are two other first overall picks I'm not even mentioning?
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1. Dave Portnoy
2. Andrew Tate
3. Jim Jordan
With all three of these guys, I feel like their reaction to it happening would be hilarious, but their reaction to not being able to do anything about it would be INCREDIBLE.
Aaahhh the Connor McDavid photos are just classic bad lighting (and that was soooo easily fixed with a better setup, this is just silly, would have gladly worked on it. Btw: Steve, Jessy and Adam, would love to help out on your studio lighting as well as it can be done ✅ …🎉😅. Love the podcast of course and ❤ to all hockey fans out there (GLG).
doesn't matter a regular head boss or manager at whatever circumstance or whatever job you work in will not ask you to show photos in your phone album to see what type of person you are. Does not matter whether its family or dick pics or whatever personal photos it is. No head boss or manager will ask to see personal photos whether public or personal or not to build work relationship. PERIOD! whether you work a 8-4 or 5-9 job. Or whatever job, retail, restaurant, business, or not! PERIOD! you don't go through employee photos no matter what it is
You're arguement to say that "Biz doesn't have enough to gain from this is being over exaggerated" is like saying "CNN and Fox News wouldn't use clickbait!"...
Hockey players respect who? Generally the biggest group of entitled bullies and jerks. Not saying babs is innocent, media reports on rumours as fact. Say the players name or its all babcock hate for no direct reason. He should have never been brought back to the nhl …. But there is nothing wrong with getting to know the people you work with.
I think the boys mistepped in not acknowledging their own bias.
Especially Adam and Steve, normally they seem to at least have read most of the relevant information, but in this case with Babcock they clearly haven't.
All summer there have been intrrvirws and reports with Babcock about his mentality change and his decision to focus more on mental health of his players.
Now, whether or not he is going to be any good at implementing that is another matter, but he has still made an effort to change, and there is public record of his acknowledgement to do so.
People can try to change and be unsuccessful, but assuming someone tries, you need to give them a chance
Was Babcock always like this though? Have you taken a look at what he did to the red wings players? Franzen had concussion issues and then had to deal with this guy’s abuse. Chris Chellios was on that Red Wings team and has nothing but hatred for the man. I’m just saying…
I chatted with Johnny Bower at charity events a few years ago, and he was the sweetest man. At one, his handler asked if Johnny could sit for a moment at our auction table, and of course I said yes. At another, he was perusing the auction items up for grabs, and commented quietly that it was a bit chilly. I offered to get him a sweater.
The thing about Babcock is that people in positions of leadership absolutely need to understand and respect the power differential in the room. If he can't, or won't, do that, he's a terrible leader. That's the bottom line. If he is doing it on purpose, he's a bully. If he's not, he's ineffectual and an idiot. Either way is not a good look.
Hiw many muscles did you guys pull with all of the reaching?? Cant wait until this babcock thing blows over and they thump the leafs 6-0
wonder why none of you guys included the "if you don't own a Lambo by the age of 20-smth, you're a loser" dude on your 'Do a No. 2 in their car' list? :)
Mike Keenan was a horrible coach / GM for the Canucks and made moves that clearly made the team worse. However, Mark Messier also sided with Mike Keenan, alienating the other players and the fans. It was terrible.
There are more than enough stories about Babcock that he loses all benefit of doubt and really he shouldn’t even have got that job in the first place
Before covid, the WWE rosters were flush...there was a variety of matches performed and available to perform. After the series, of cuts over the last 4 years, the same wrestlers fought each other too often...boring.
Fix the paint on the wall behind adam please. Love the podcast, just my OCD being triggered haha
All you can see is the white spots when on his camera and you can also see them on the main camera
as a Devils fan and obviously a Hughes family fan, good for the Canucks. F the rangers. F MM.
Ik exactly what was wrong with the Quinn huges graphic as soon as I seen the photo 😂 … probably coulda guessed it without looking at it
Awesome a podcast just in time for me to watch while I eat dinner!
I'm from Brantford and had met Walter Gretzky multiple times before his passing (at hockey tournaments, random Tim Horton's and McDonald's, etc.) and he is one of the absolute nicest person anybody could have ever met
He is. But Wayne isn't Walter. I know multiple people who have served Wayne at restaurants in Toronto and all of them say he's kind of a dick
Extra Hot Wings and Taco night. The three are My Boss, Justin Trudeau and Ex-Business Partner
Poops:
1. Kyrie Irving
2. Martin Shkreli
3. Tucker Carlson
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Bar Tab part makes no sense if you're listening to podcast and not watching on TH-cam
Can we get a "I dispute this with a profanity" shirt?
Episode's name should be Shatting your self and walking panttsless
mackinnon shoulda won the heart by a mile the year taylor hall did adam gotta be wrong on that one, like not even close
Hate it when I come here to get away from politics talk only to hear more politics talk on a hockey podcast
How many episodes before we rebrand the pod ShitDaPantsNetwork
go back to 93 and crap in Andy Van Hellemonds car.....no doubter
Paraphrasing Eliot Friedman:
[Expletive] Messier
Thomas was almost immediately traded to Dallas because that combo was not going to work together. 😂
A week was definitely generous, lol
@@dougie6105 I'm 90% sure it was after the first game if it even lasted that long.
episode should've been titled "Hirearchical"
“Up yours woke moralists, we’ll see who poops in who’s vehicle.”
3 legal doo doos? All the ceos of loblaws, sobeys and Walmart
Sooooo much poop talk these days and strangely I’m here for it.
1:38:00 Maddy needs a mike so we can hear what the heck they are saying
I love the banter 😂👍🏼
Conor McDavid looks like the spokesperson for writers block
Maybe people are overreacting to the Babcock situation?
Surprised Adam didn't pick Ducharme to poop in his car
Columbus does have a professional paintball place.
Why was this episode not called Pootin with Putin 😂
Keefe a big foot guy
Mcdavids picture looks very concerned😂
Adam with sleep is amazing stuff
So hard to tell what they’re political views are.
Maybe you guys should do an ounce of research when wondering why Messier is hated as a captain in Vancouver...
Imagine if Marchand (can't really think of an equivalent) became a Leaf and the following happened:
1. Takes Salming or someone who has an emotional connection related to them's jersey # (without consulting the family).
2. Refuses to live in the GTA (condo and commute billed to the team).
3. Gets Shanny to fire Treliving and Keefe and replaces them with Chiarelli and Julien.
4. Takes the captaincy from Tavares and then gets him traded. (Linden was held at a higher regard but whatever).
5. The team becomes absolute trash right away and you lose other important players.
6. Leaves the team in shambles three years later.
That is probably the darkest time in Canucks history and that includes the 80s!
I know blowing stories out of proportion is bloggers' / podcasters' job, but the Babcock story is literally nothing being made into something (admittedly about a coach with a track record that makes him an easy target).
The guy shows pictures of his family, asks players and other co-workers to talk about their families (and voluntarily show pictures of their families). That's it.
Biz wants to drum up controversy, but this is not a case of Babcock invading people's privacy and forcing them to show the pictures on their phones. It's about voluntarily showing pictures of their families. Good lord, obviously not much hockey news these days.