It is. Here in austria Zwentendorf never got activated. Our gouverment built it but after theymade a referendum and Austrian' oeple voted against it. It was a huge disaster due to immense financial loss. Zwentendorf is 12 km away from my village and is now used for events, tours, civil protection events or for practice for other nuclear power workers from germany.
@@tieralternativ8483 luckily it was cheap. In Finland the OL3 power plant has cost over 10B and the construction of it was 14 years late. It's not owned by state.
I don’t know why exactly, but these kinds of plants literally scare the tar out of me. Looking at the hundreds of pipes and the many many holes in the reactors just gives me chills for whatever reason. Nonetheless it’s really really cool, just kinda interesting to the point it’s freaky lol.
Coal power plants are also in similar built type. If you want large amount of energy generation in short period of time, you have to build something like this,... otherwise enjoy wind turbines and solar panels,... they way they look simple, they also generate energy in simple 1 digit numbers 😆
The magnitude of power generation in such plants is considerably higher than of renewables. Due to the many fluids moving trought such a reactor are so varied that you may need 20 different fluids for just 1 process.
@@S3tekh Oh, yes ... I almost forgot ! The "thing" at the bottom of the containment vessel (like 3 floors below) is really, ... really, hot ... I don't know where it might have came from ... But the Emergency Stop button still works.
Following the 1978 referendum, no commercial nuclear power plant (built for the purpose of producing electricity) ever went into operation in Austria. In 1978, Austria enacted a law prohibiting the construction and operation of fission reactors for electrical power generation - yeah abandoned
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@@austrianfuck7450 It would be really cool to be able to take a tour inside, too bad it's hard to get a ticket. Just watching your video you can make a tuor inside. Excellent video show... Tmj... Hugs from ADVENTURER PAULEK!
Yeah, that's really stupid. In the US, generally before something like this can be built, the locals have a say in weather they want it approve the project. If it doesn't get approved then it doesn't get built. Of course, this can create headaches too. The old busy bodies in the village I used to live in have voted down just about every proposal, from ones that would create decent paying blue collar jobs to something to something as simple as a cell phone tower that would improve spotty coverage in the area.
More familiar with our Canadian CANDU reactors I can see this BWR concept of reactor is potentially dangerous and hazardous to maintain....for example radioactive steam through the turbines...leakage? The control rod area beneath the vessel must have been hell itself...
This reactor type has several weaknesses, also it tended to get cracks in the pressure vessel at some weldings which could not be checked after installation. It's cheaper, but inferior to later PWR types.
It was never used, that's why it seems finished building, besides what you wrote you invented it yourself and it is nothing more than your simple and irrelevant opinion, thank heaven.
Did he say that Kreisky was unpopular at that time? Bruno Kreisky had a majority of more than 50% of the seats in Austrian parlament and is until today seen as the best and most loved chancelor in Austrian history 😅
Overly dramatic background music as if some catastrophic event took place here. The only catastrophe is the Austrian people’s ignorance on Nuclear power that lead to the 50.5% vote against commissioning the plant.
It's a shame. Austria still heavily relies on nuclear power (wind, water and solar energy indirectly provided by our solar systems fusion reactor) despite that decision. The thing about democracy is, that everybody get's a vote. It doesn't mather wether you've actually studied something, or your job is milking cows, it's one vote. It's austrias fucked up media, that influenced people to vote for something, the simply aren't capable to judge.
@@obsoleteoptics Nothing, but i'd pay less for electricity, if Zwentendorf was running. Why do you assume, that someone has to be corrupt to have a different opinion than you? Maybe they have good reasons for having a different opinion and you just never heard them, because you always scream "you're on their payroll, i won't listen to you" and run off, to pay some scammers money to plant a tree.
@@gehtdianschasau8372 Nah Kernspaltung is nur kurzfristig bzw durch Subventionen billig weil Entsorgung und Endlagerung ned im Strompreis enthalten san sondern von Steuern zoit wern. Besser wir scheissn auf Kernspaltung und woatn bis Kernfusion wirtschaftlich funktioniert.
Title is misleading. Its a Museum and ive been there as Austrian. And Kreisky wasnt unpopular at all. Most see him as one of the best politicians Austria has seen. Although Zwentendorf is not in Action Austria is surounded by several old reactors in the czech republic and slovakia
Society’s rejection of Nuclear power was a massive mistake, and the environment has payed dearly for it as we continue to rely on fossil fuels for our electricity
i would really like to see the source of your Statement at 11:52, where you say that a coal power plant produces more Radiation than a nuclear power plant.
Try Google. There are more resources. Recently, it has even been investigated whether it is possible to separate Uranium from fly ash from thermal power plants. The Canadian company Sparton Resources Inc. tested it in Xiaolongtang in China.
@@Researchers-cz I found this paper but it concludes that a coal power plant only emmits more Radiation if you dont include the nuclear waste and an accident in the calculations. science.sciencemag.org/content/202/4372/1045 The average dose of Radiation that you receive if you live near a coal power plant is actually higher than if you live near a nuclear power plant but the daily average dose every human receives is much higher than that. www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/the-daily-need/how-much-radiation-is-too-much-a-handy-guide/8124/ Your channel is called Researchers so please do your Research before you publish your videos
Coal power causes plenty of harm to the environment that releases carbon monoxide and harmful oxides to the environment, this release of harsh substances are monitored by countries for they have a timetable wherein not to completely rely on fossil fuel, as they cause earthquakes, erosion, tsunamis, as well as nuclear fusion as Japan opts for healthier and renewable sources of energy, such as geothermal, harnesses energy from volcanoes in order to harness thermal energy and prevent volcanic eruption, disturbances to topography aside from unethical use of material for construction of infrastructure and buildings. Countries are inclined into use of healthier sources of energy, biofuel, from plants, chlorophyll based and the plast, as well as water for Ionos.
no they were to ignorant to invest in more big hydroelectric dams , therefor they wanted nuclear Also parts of east germany that were close to their giant brown coal plant had way higher radiation levels than the surrounding areas after they serched for Chernobyl fallout , there a high radiation was detected before the chernobyl fallout even came down coal is radioactive - mainly containing cesium, iodine and uranium+beryllium power plant ashes are actually quite hot radiation whise
@@comptelo-cz Your numbers are wrong. They cover more than 90 % of their supply with own power plants, but they also use a lot of wind and solar power they get from Germany to store it in their pump storage lakes. file:///tmp/mozilla_simon0/energiegesamtrechnung_elektrische_energie_2008_bis_2018.pdf You can use your eastern European nuclear energy by yourself, we have enough own power plants here in western Europe.
@@comptelo-cz Germany has the biggest power plant capacity ever in history, we are exporting in all countries (except France) more electricity than we import. Even without the nuclear power plants we will have enough electricity, they only support relatively little, and there are enough spare power plants in reserve. Nobody in Germany is shutting down a power plant without having the same capaity for replacement. Europe has a EU-wide grid to be more flexible, ena enable trading with electricity. This is a feature, no bug, and it's intended.
It'll always be funny to me (for both, Austria and Germany), that anti-nuclear people are always surprised the Coal is the replacement for reactors, and that it emits way more radiation right into the atmosphere than any nuclear plant built in either country ever would
Austrian citizens were smart to abandon this Boiling Water Reactor design. General Electric's original BWR design in the US and elsewhere are being seen for the dangers they represent and are being targeted for shutdown in the near future. The idea that the control rods and some emergency systems are actuated from the bottom of the reactor and are power dependent rather than gravity dependent as they are in Pressurized Water Reactors is a design fault that all licensed BWR machines never really addressed. Oyster Creek, Peach Bottom, Quad Cities, and other BWR machines licensed in the United States need more proper scrutiny and evaluation of their true cost picture.
It was a older primitive design with inherent design problems that would have been devastating if someone or something went wrong. Better to have not taken the chance. I am not against nuclear power. But I am of the opinion that modern more technologically advanced safer designs should be used and not the older ones.
@@Veritas-invenitur In a perfect ideal world everyone would do the right thing, work to the absolute best of their ability. Doing all of this in a nuclear power plant guarantees nothing can go wrong. Unfortunately it’s not like that. People aren’t perfect, people make mistakes accidents can happen. Than there’s people where that cut corners, work while tired, drunk or high. I mean fukushima happened because the plant was built on land where the tsunami hit. Even though tests, simulations and geographic information showed that tsunamis and earthquakes could happen in that exact spot. But the cheapskates didn’t want to find a safer spot so they built there. There was a separate nuclear accident in 1999 at the Tokaimura nuclear plant. Corners were cut, safety standards were cut to increase productivity. There was a man who was exposed to so much radiation that the doctors had no idea how he was still alive at that moment. I say moment because he was the very definition of the walking dead, he wasn't going to die he was all ready dead it was just It take 83 to slowly catch up to him. His heart stopped many, many, many , many times and his entire body fell apart on the cellular level but the scientists kept him alive against his will he was begging and pleading for a lethal injection of pain medication but it was withheld on purpose for the longest time because they wanted data. I haven't put the name because I am begging and pleading with you not to look up the name because pictures come up and they can never ever be unseen.
@@FOXCYBORGNINJA Unfortunately. I have read and seen all the medical reports and photos from the control room workers and firefighters at Chernobyl. I have extensively studied the nuclear industry and nuclear incidents.
What a shame so much money was wasted building it and staffing it just for it to never be used. I'm not anti-nuclear like some and all for it as long as everyone plays their part in keeping it safe. I understand the fear of nuclear by many but overall, in the energy industry it has had far less accidents and deaths than any other.
Wrong title. Zwentendorf is not "ABANDONED", it was completed as a structure, never used to generate energy and today is run by the Austrian Energy Company that also maintains it - so, no "abandoning" here. It serves as a showcase for that particular type of nuclear reactor. And, ironically, also as training grounds for anti-nuclear activists…
"steal" 1970s technology you can easily find in the internet? i think even north korea have more modern nuclear technology at this point, they can probably just ask china or russia
It's a boiling water reactor designed in 69 (called SWR 69), it's obsolete and all the active ones of this type in Germany were shut down in 2011. You can't steal anything here, of course visitors don't get exact plans and blueprints. All you can see there as a visitor is also available by public sources over the internet.
@@jannejohansson3383 That's right, but you need a reactor to produce plutonium, because you don't find plutonium in nature like uranium. So all the plutonium used worldwide in nuclear weapons was produced in reactors. For weapons grade uranium (which is PU-239, not other isotopes like PU-240) you have to leave the fuel rods in the reactor for a shorter time than usual. Nuclear weapons are also the only reason for nuclear reprocessing facilities, the only countries running this facilities (USA, France, Great Britain, Russia etc) are always nuclear armed countries.
I do believe the idea behind keeping it in near working condition is that it could be commissioned if the political tides changed regarding nuclear. I’m sure it wouldn’t take much to get that place operational again, it looks like everything is still fully hooked up and functional
In 1978, Austria enacted a constitutional law prohibiting the construction and operation of fission reactors for electrical power generation. Some parts are also been sold as spare parts to other plants with identically constructed reactors. Besides, its used for operator training, guided tours and you can also lease the area for filming purposes. Only one operational reactor remains in the Vienna University of Technology.
@@xshowda True, but if they ever were to get rid of the law, 99.9% of the plant is already built and in perfect condition, and the rest can be retrieved from the (then decomissioned) german plants, so it would only take some workers, fresh fuel rods, removing the signposts and shipping some (free) parts to get it going.
The powerplant was 100% finished and ready for operation. Also the fuel rods were at the site and ready for insertion. The law to use nuclear power and put it on operation was rejected by a referendum. In the next years it keep ready for operation until a a law was signed wich abendoned nuclear power plants in austria generally. After that the fuel rods were sold, also some parts of the system were sold to identical power plants. The plant was from now on used for training porposes. But theoretical it was still possible to get it operational again. There was still hope for a mind change in public until the INES7 desaster in cherobyl. 1999 the law of not using nuclear power plants become part of the constitution of austria. The power plant also getting in the ages, there was no hope of getting it ever operational. Few years later the owner decided to build a hole into the containment and the reactor pressure vessel for better training possibilities. Since this action it is not possible to made it operational again because this is not repairable.
even if laws were changed, it is highly unlikely a plant built in the 70's will be put back into service.. it is probably highly expensive to the point of unfeasibility.
Austria and science are not compatible words, especially nuclear science. It is better to keep making cheese instant of nuclear plants. By the way, in terms of the last words in this video, the Czech Republic is more advanced than Austria, even in space technology.
The technology for solar panels is getting better and better. There will be a threshold where the efficiency can be compared to other energy sources. It is something we can look forward to, isn't it? :)
The biggest solar installation worldwide is gonna to build in Australia, 10 GW, 13 times the power of this reactor type here, with a 20 GWh battery for a 24/7 energy supply
Je la la sûreté nucléaire doivent être prévenue et que l'Union européenne sache que il y a une centrale nucléaire en Autriche abandonné donc il devrait la démantelé
"Mine-Grade" in German Language usually means Explosion-safe. So all Wiring is sealed Gas-tight that no explosive Gas can reach it and ignite in case of a Spark.
You know how to stop the waste dust from coming from stacks? It's called filters and decontamination technology. Also if your ganna bitch about coal, tell me ur goal of getting rid of used uranium safely and not having to wait thousands of not millions of years for it to be gone.
people are idiots, it was a perfectly good solution for clean energy, then they got 2 coal plant which producing more nuclear waste than this. awesome. This is why experts should decide not residents or politicians
1. It's clean. Cleaner than any other thermal power plant, all things (manufacturing) considered probably also cleaner than solar panels. 2. It's reliable. Doesn't need wind, doesn't need sunlight to operate. 3. It's powerful. 4. It's cheap. 5. It doesn't need a lot of maintenance. Minimal downtime compared to solar or wind The only better source of electric power I can think of is water, but you obviously can't build dams everywhere. Now tell me, what else, if not nuclear? But remember, you need an electric source for nights with no wind...
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t Then wait until one of the dams breaks, and you know hydro can be just as deadly as nuclear. Also, water turbines shred fish. In the end, all larger energy sources can kill you and other living things in some way or another, as any larger ammounts of energy, no matter the form, are plainly destructive if released in an uncontrolled way.
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t The accident ratio between power plants says, that dams have killed more people than any other plants so far. Nuclear being the last of them. Go figure. Oh, and reactor exploded only once. It was a russian designed RBMK. Others have a containment shield which prevents the contamination. So no need to worry or panic.
@@StewartEvans52 exactly. it was already primed for startup when a referendum turned out against nuclear power and new laws that forbid nuclear power plants in austria went into force. it's a wild story
Looks more like an old reactor that wasn't abandoned. It looks well upkeeped and used for tours lol.
Agreed. This hasn’t been abandoned. It has been retired and is well maintained.
It is. Here in austria Zwentendorf never got activated. Our gouverment built it but after theymade a referendum and Austrian' oeple voted against it. It was a huge disaster due to immense financial loss. Zwentendorf is 12 km away from my village and is now used for events, tours, civil protection events or for practice for other nuclear power workers from germany.
@@tieralternativ8483 luckily it was cheap. In Finland the OL3 power plant has cost over 10B and the construction of it was 14 years late. It's not owned by state.
Here is Austria,everything looks good and upkeeped.
@@tieralternativ8483 that means it's not abandoned. Non-operating or inoperable plant would be a proper word to use. Abandoned means something else.
10:15 is awesome! you can hear all of the bimetallic switches in the fluro starters making their "ping" sound as the contacts inside separate.
The tech might be "old" but I still find it incredibly fascinating. An engineering marvel.
One of the best documentaries I have seen till now. 👌🏻👌🏻
Thank you :)
I don’t know why exactly, but these kinds of plants literally scare the tar out of me. Looking at the hundreds of pipes and the many many holes in the reactors just gives me chills for whatever reason. Nonetheless it’s really really cool, just kinda interesting to the point it’s freaky lol.
Strange…
Coal power plants are also in similar built type. If you want large amount of energy generation in short period of time, you have to build something like this,... otherwise enjoy wind turbines and solar panels,... they way they look simple, they also generate energy in simple 1 digit numbers 😆
The magnitude of power generation in such plants is considerably higher than of renewables.
Due to the many fluids moving trought such a reactor are so varied that you may need 20 different fluids for just 1 process.
awesome video
Should be listed on eBay : "Unused Power Plant". Item Condition : "As New" !
“Delivery not available”
... And, by the way : ... Batteries NOT included : 3 fuel rods needed ....
Also huge hole at the bottom of the containment shield, easy fix. Flex tape should do it
@@S3tekh Oh, yes ... I almost forgot ! The "thing" at the bottom of the containment vessel (like 3 floors below) is really, ... really, hot ... I don't know where it might have came from ... But the Emergency Stop button still works.
It's not abandoned. It is out of commission.
Following the 1978 referendum, no commercial nuclear power plant (built for the purpose of producing electricity) ever went into operation in Austria. In 1978, Austria enacted a law prohibiting the construction and operation of fission reactors for electrical power generation - yeah abandoned
@@ivanmonahhov2314 abandoned means nobody is there
but there is a friend of mine did his turbine license there
Inspecting the control rod drive room is some scary shit...
Wow!!! I'd love to bring my band to record in that wet well chamber. The accoustics are incredible!!!!
Austria... Bloody beautiful country
I need to see that plant on a foggy day. It seems the appropriate atmosphere for the visit.
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You can take a tour inside but the tickets are normally sold out several months in advance
@@austrianfuck7450 It would be really cool to be able to take a tour inside, too bad it's hard to get a ticket. Just watching your video you can make a tuor inside. Excellent video show... Tmj... Hugs from ADVENTURER PAULEK!
typical austrian politics
>build nuclear powerplant first
>ask the people if they actually want it second
>??????
>profit
Yeah, that's really stupid. In the US, generally before something like this can be built, the locals have a say in weather they want it approve the project. If it doesn't get approved then it doesn't get built. Of course, this can create headaches too. The old busy bodies in the village I used to live in have voted down just about every proposal, from ones that would create decent paying blue collar jobs to something to something as simple as a cell phone tower that would improve spotty coverage in the area.
More familiar with our Canadian CANDU reactors I can see this BWR concept of reactor is potentially dangerous and hazardous to maintain....for example radioactive steam through the turbines...leakage? The control rod area beneath the vessel must have been hell itself...
This reactor type has several weaknesses, also it tended to get cracks in the pressure vessel at some weldings which could not be checked after installation. It's cheaper, but inferior to later PWR types.
your abandoned reactors in Austria are better in shape than brand new reactors in russia.
It was never used, that's why it seems finished building, besides what you wrote you invented it yourself and it is nothing more than your simple and irrelevant opinion, thank heaven.
operating a coal power plant is 110% more shitty than operating a nuclear power plant
VERY interesting, thanks!
Start it up, and save the world!!
Woow! Thanks a lot.
My grandpa has work at its build, the steel shell
Did he say that Kreisky was unpopular at that time? Bruno Kreisky had a majority of more than 50% of the seats in Austrian parlament and is until today seen as the best and most loved chancelor in Austrian history 😅
Overly dramatic background music as if some catastrophic event took place here. The only catastrophe is the Austrian people’s ignorance on Nuclear power that lead to the 50.5% vote against commissioning the plant.
It's a shame. Austria still heavily relies on nuclear power (wind, water and solar energy indirectly provided by our solar systems fusion reactor) despite that decision. The thing about democracy is, that everybody get's a vote. It doesn't mather wether you've actually studied something, or your job is milking cows, it's one vote. It's austrias fucked up media, that influenced people to vote for something, the simply aren't capable to judge.
How much is the scumbag nuclear industry paying you guys?
@@obsoleteoptics Nothing, but i'd pay less for electricity, if Zwentendorf was running. Why do you assume, that someone has to be corrupt to have a different opinion than you? Maybe they have good reasons for having a different opinion and you just never heard them, because you always scream "you're on their payroll, i won't listen to you" and run off, to pay some scammers money to plant a tree.
@@gehtdianschasau8372 bold of you to assume I have money, let alone enough to blow on scams.
@@gehtdianschasau8372 Nah Kernspaltung is nur kurzfristig bzw durch Subventionen billig weil Entsorgung und Endlagerung ned im Strompreis enthalten san sondern von Steuern zoit wern.
Besser wir scheissn auf Kernspaltung und woatn bis Kernfusion wirtschaftlich funktioniert.
who sau the 4:46 effect on the camera?
Title is misleading. Its a Museum and ive been there as Austrian. And Kreisky wasnt unpopular at all. Most see him as one of the best politicians Austria has seen. Although Zwentendorf is not in Action Austria is surounded by several old reactors in the czech republic and slovakia
The solar panels on the plant grounds generate in one year what the plant would have produced in 19 minutes. LOL. “Green energy”.
@Märssy He isn't exactly wrong though. There are downsides to every form of energy generation.
@@madmatt2024 That's why you should consider using multiple sources instead of just one. But thats too hard of a concept for some people it seems.
Excellent film!
Is this a rbmk
RBMK is russian designed reactor.
Abandoned in Austria and Germany is different than North america
Society’s rejection of Nuclear power was a massive mistake, and the environment has payed dearly for it as we continue to rely on fossil fuels for our electricity
Im from austria the reactor was never in use, reason being, they finish right before chernobyl happened
i would really like to see the source of your Statement at 11:52, where you say that a coal power plant produces more Radiation than a nuclear power plant.
Try Google. There are more resources. Recently, it has even been investigated whether it is possible to separate Uranium from fly ash from thermal power plants. The Canadian company Sparton Resources Inc. tested it in Xiaolongtang in China.
@@Researchers-cz I found this paper but it concludes that a coal power plant only emmits more Radiation if you dont include the nuclear waste and an accident in the calculations.
science.sciencemag.org/content/202/4372/1045
The average dose of Radiation that you receive if you live near a coal power plant is actually higher than if you live near a nuclear power plant but the daily average dose every human receives is much higher than that.
www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/the-daily-need/how-much-radiation-is-too-much-a-handy-guide/8124/
Your channel is called Researchers so please do your Research before you publish your videos
Coal apparently turns into radioactive dust that doesn't become safe for thousands of years. News to me.
Coal power causes plenty of harm to the environment that releases carbon monoxide and harmful oxides to the environment, this release of harsh substances are monitored by countries for they have a timetable wherein not to completely rely on fossil fuel, as they cause earthquakes, erosion, tsunamis, as well as nuclear fusion as Japan opts for healthier and renewable sources of energy, such as geothermal, harnesses energy from volcanoes in order to harness thermal energy and prevent volcanic eruption, disturbances to topography aside from unethical use of material for construction of infrastructure and buildings. Countries are inclined into use of healthier sources of energy, biofuel, from plants, chlorophyll based and the plast, as well as water for Ionos.
And kilogram of cranite (stone) have more energy than kilo of coal. Because uranium inside that stone.
imagine being only one employee there
so, human rather burn coal and gas for power?
no they were to ignorant to invest in more big hydroelectric dams , therefor they wanted nuclear
Also parts of east germany that were close to their giant brown coal plant had way higher radiation levels than the surrounding areas after they serched for Chernobyl fallout , there a high radiation was detected before the chernobyl fallout even came down coal is radioactive - mainly containing cesium, iodine and uranium+beryllium
power plant ashes are actually quite hot radiation whise
Austria has mountains, and a huge percentage of hydro energy. This country runs its grid almost fossil free, even without nuclear.
@@comptelo-cz Your numbers are wrong.
They cover more than 90 % of their supply with own power plants, but they also use a lot of wind and solar power they get from Germany to store it in their pump storage lakes.
file:///tmp/mozilla_simon0/energiegesamtrechnung_elektrische_energie_2008_bis_2018.pdf
You can use your eastern European nuclear energy by yourself, we have enough own power plants here in western Europe.
@@comptelo-cz Germany has the biggest power plant capacity ever in history, we are exporting in all countries (except France) more electricity than we import. Even without the nuclear power plants we will have enough electricity, they only support relatively little, and there are enough spare power plants in reserve. Nobody in Germany is shutting down a power plant without having the same capaity for replacement.
Europe has a EU-wide grid to be more flexible, ena enable trading with electricity. This is a feature, no bug, and it's intended.
Love it!
Mc Quaid, start the reaktor!
It'll always be funny to me (for both, Austria and Germany), that anti-nuclear people are always surprised the Coal is the replacement for reactors, and that it emits way more radiation right into the atmosphere than any nuclear plant built in either country ever would
Austrian citizens were smart to abandon this Boiling Water Reactor design. General Electric's original BWR design in the US and elsewhere are being seen for the dangers they represent and are being targeted for shutdown in the near future. The idea that the control rods and some emergency systems are actuated from the bottom of the reactor and are power dependent rather than gravity dependent as they are in Pressurized Water Reactors is a design fault that all licensed BWR machines never really addressed. Oyster Creek, Peach Bottom, Quad Cities, and other BWR machines licensed in the United States need more proper scrutiny and evaluation of their true cost picture.
Must have been infuriating that the plant never came online for all those whom wanted it. 1.5 Billion Euros spent to build it. What a waste.
It was a older primitive design with inherent design problems that would have been devastating if someone or something went wrong.
Better to have not taken the chance.
I am not against nuclear power.
But I am of the opinion that modern more technologically advanced safer designs should be used and not the older ones.
@@FOXCYBORGNINJA I can agree with playing it safe. It's too bad they weren't able to update/upgrade the facility to make it safe.
@@Veritas-invenitur In a perfect ideal world everyone would do the right thing, work to the absolute best of their ability.
Doing all of this in a nuclear power plant guarantees nothing can go wrong.
Unfortunately it’s not like that.
People aren’t perfect, people make mistakes accidents can happen.
Than there’s people where that cut corners, work while tired, drunk or high.
I mean fukushima happened because the plant was built on land where the tsunami hit.
Even though tests, simulations and geographic information showed that tsunamis and earthquakes could happen in that exact spot.
But the cheapskates didn’t want to find a safer spot so they built there.
There was a separate nuclear accident in 1999 at the Tokaimura nuclear plant.
Corners were cut, safety standards were cut to increase productivity.
There was a man who was exposed to so much radiation that the doctors had no idea how he was still alive at that moment.
I say moment because he was the very definition of the walking dead, he wasn't going to die he was all ready dead it was just It take 83 to slowly catch up to him.
His heart stopped many, many, many , many times and his entire body fell apart on the cellular level but the scientists kept him alive against his will he was begging and pleading for a lethal injection of pain medication but it was withheld on purpose for the longest time because they wanted data.
I haven't put the name because I am begging and pleading with you not to look up the name because pictures come up and they can never ever be unseen.
@@FOXCYBORGNINJA Unfortunately. I have read and seen all the medical reports and photos from the control room workers and firefighters at Chernobyl. I have extensively studied the nuclear industry and nuclear incidents.
@@Veritas-invenitur It’s all extremely sad, all of those people are heroes.
nuclear is a great clean option its just people still want to burn fossil fuels
Great Video, but the background music is much to loud. You can not understand mr. zach.
What a shame so much money was wasted building it and staffing it just for it to never be used. I'm not anti-nuclear like some and all for it as long as everyone plays their part in keeping it safe. I understand the fear of nuclear by many but overall, in the energy industry it has had far less accidents and deaths than any other.
It's not abandoned. Not at all. It is a museum so very far from being abandoned. The nuclear project was abandoned yes.
Wrong title. Zwentendorf is not "ABANDONED", it was completed as a structure, never used to generate energy and today is run by the Austrian Energy Company that also maintains it - so, no "abandoning" here. It serves as a showcase for that particular type of nuclear reactor. And, ironically, also as training grounds for anti-nuclear activists…
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So it's not abandoned afterall. Lapsus in the title.
Are those 'big baseball bat like' are turbines? They were huge.
Yea but solar can't produce electricity at night.
muy buen vídeo........
Looks better than Chernobyl.
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but isnt this suppose to be an area which is off public limits? like someone like north korea could come steal its design etc?
"steal" 1970s technology you can easily find in the internet?
i think even north korea have more modern nuclear technology at this point, they can probably just ask china or russia
It's a boiling water reactor designed in 69 (called SWR 69), it's obsolete and all the active ones of this type in Germany were shut down in 2011.
You can't steal anything here, of course visitors don't get exact plans and blueprints. All you can see there as a visitor is also available by public sources over the internet.
NK use plutonium only for warfare, not for electricity.. :p
@@jannejohansson3383 That's right, but you need a reactor to produce plutonium, because you don't find plutonium in nature like uranium.
So all the plutonium used worldwide in nuclear weapons was produced in reactors.
For weapons grade uranium (which is PU-239, not other isotopes like PU-240) you have to leave the fuel rods in the reactor for a shorter time than usual.
Nuclear weapons are also the only reason for nuclear reprocessing facilities, the only countries running this facilities (USA, France, Great Britain, Russia etc) are always nuclear armed countries.
There is always a future need. Nuclear power plant thats over 60 years operating system with clearance for 20 more years....
Denkt da keiner an Arnold ? Die hören genau gleich an, aber sind ja auch beide Österreicher
Not really abandoned.
Hilfskatze 🐱
fire a gun inside 8:07 and see how lou-
Is it safe to enter?
well obviously if he went in there where fuel rods in it but the reaction never got started so its not reactive
This power plant was never in use, so nothing is radioactive there.
I do believe the idea behind keeping it in near working condition is that it could be commissioned if the political tides changed regarding nuclear. I’m sure it wouldn’t take much to get that place operational again, it looks like everything is still fully hooked up and functional
In 1978, Austria enacted a constitutional law prohibiting the construction and operation of fission reactors for electrical power generation. Some parts are also been sold as spare parts to other plants with identically constructed reactors. Besides, its used for operator training, guided tours and you can also lease the area for filming purposes.
Only one operational reactor remains in the Vienna University of Technology.
@@xshowda True, but if they ever were to get rid of the law, 99.9% of the plant is already built and in perfect condition, and the rest can be retrieved from the (then decomissioned) german plants, so it would only take some workers, fresh fuel rods, removing the signposts and shipping some (free) parts to get it going.
The powerplant was 100% finished and ready for operation. Also the fuel rods were at the site and ready for insertion. The law to use nuclear power and put it on operation was rejected by a referendum. In the next years it keep ready for operation until a a law was signed wich abendoned nuclear power plants in austria generally. After that the fuel rods were sold, also some parts of the system were sold to identical power plants. The plant was from now on used for training porposes. But theoretical it was still possible to get it operational again. There was still hope for a mind change in public until the INES7 desaster in cherobyl. 1999 the law of not using nuclear power plants become part of the constitution of austria. The power plant also getting in the ages, there was no hope of getting it ever operational. Few years later the owner decided to build a hole into the containment and the reactor pressure vessel for better training possibilities. Since this action it is not possible to made it operational again because this is not repairable.
even if laws were changed, it is highly unlikely a plant built in the 70's will be put back into service.. it is probably highly expensive to the point of unfeasibility.
10:05 Wow
Y know royal air force what do you say now
3:14 He said "Nuclear Power Pant"!
Austria and science are not compatible words, especially nuclear science.
It is better to keep making cheese instant of nuclear plants.
By the way, in terms of the last words in this video, the Czech Republic is more advanced than Austria, even in space technology.
Love how he has to keep mentioning there is no water. I would die if this guy was my tour guide. He's dry af
If that was your plant, I think you were dry as f too :p
Nice to work alone at that huge house with nothing.
He Is German… the people in Ulm are always dry af
Stopping the nuclear power and start to use the coal power plants and the nuclear power from the neighbors. So logic.
1000 solar panels for 1 year = 19 minutes of reactor
1 Nuclear reactor melt down = 100.000 years wasteland
The technology for solar panels is getting better and better. There will be a threshold where the efficiency can be compared to other energy sources. It is something we can look forward to, isn't it? :)
@@naturtechnikfreund and how many did we have at Fukushima ten years ago?
@@naturtechnikfreund melt downs are extremely rare and with modern types of reactors also extremely unlikely
The biggest solar installation worldwide is gonna to build in Australia, 10 GW, 13 times the power of this reactor type here, with a 20 GWh battery for a 24/7 energy supply
When the lights go out blame the activists. What a waste of money and technology all in the name of what?
wash off radiation? yeah, um.....i'm sure he meant to say contamination.....
I want to hear him say "Get to the choppa"
Je la la sûreté nucléaire doivent être prévenue et que l'Union européenne sache que il y a une centrale nucléaire en Autriche abandonné donc il devrait la démantelé
It's a shame that it's not actually in use, if it's in good shape and good design. Maybe they should reconsider.
What the fuck, youtube ??? why ??
Wtf is a mine phone lol. Are they talking about a sound powered telephone?
"Mine-Grade" in German Language usually means Explosion-safe. So all Wiring is sealed Gas-tight that no explosive Gas can reach it and ignite in case of a Spark.
Missing Chernobyl ☢️
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You know how to stop the waste dust from coming from stacks? It's called filters and decontamination technology. Also if your ganna bitch about coal, tell me ur goal of getting rid of used uranium safely and not having to wait thousands of not millions of years for it to be gone.
Yeah, it's what to do with the waste, and, oh yeah, occasionally they melt down and contaminate a few thousand square kilometers of land.
Great monument of undereducation and populism triumph.
Ooof... boiling water reactor == eventual kaboom
did anyone else look at the control room and think chernobyl
Austrian nuclear "Brexit"😂.
people are idiots, it was a perfectly good solution for clean energy, then they got 2 coal plant which producing more nuclear waste than this. awesome. This is why experts should decide not residents or politicians
@Neb6 i am aware of that, othre countries can manage this problem. The burned out fuel doesn't take so much space.
@@Thomas384 The Problem is not the space used for storage, but the time you need to store the waste.
@Neb6 Storages can be built. There has never been any accident in the storage fascility. Except for Russia in the 50`s.
chernobyl vibe
How can somebody like nuclear power? Yes its fascinating but im more than glad we didn’t vote for it.
1. It's clean. Cleaner than any other thermal power plant, all things (manufacturing) considered probably also cleaner than solar panels.
2. It's reliable. Doesn't need wind, doesn't need sunlight to operate.
3. It's powerful.
4. It's cheap.
5. It doesn't need a lot of maintenance. Minimal downtime compared to solar or wind
The only better source of electric power I can think of is water, but you obviously can't build dams everywhere.
Now tell me, what else, if not nuclear? But remember, you need an electric source for nights with no wind...
@@tomkocur I LOVE IT...FACTS OVER FEELINGS.....
@@tomkocur well said.
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t Then wait until one of the dams breaks, and you know hydro can be just as deadly as nuclear. Also, water turbines shred fish. In the end, all larger energy sources can kill you and other living things in some way or another, as any larger ammounts of energy, no matter the form, are plainly destructive if released in an uncontrolled way.
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t The accident ratio between power plants says, that dams have killed more people than any other plants so far. Nuclear being the last of them. Go figure. Oh, and reactor exploded only once. It was a russian designed RBMK. Others have a containment shield which prevents the contamination. So no need to worry or panic.
Exploring an abandoned reactor !! What could possibly go wrong ?!?!?!?!?
austrian here - its not exactly abandoned. its a museum and used for training purposes of other nuclear plant personnel
@@ijuvatar it was never switched on was it?
@@StewartEvans52 exactly. it was already primed for startup when a referendum turned out against nuclear power and new laws that forbid nuclear power plants in austria went into force. it's a wild story