Why does Gaijin like balancing every other nation stuff with reload and shell nerfs but it's all balanced around keeping their Russian stuff being historical? Wild.
Good one. I think we all know why they use russia as a baseline though ;) They also nerfed the Pzh speed from 60 to 50kph. Gun depression is wrong as well
@@patrickescoe Yeah for a period. The 6 second reload aced it had was more than fine before they upped it to 10 seconds for some reason instead of just giving it its spall liners + raising its BR.
Holy SHHHHHIT that reload is a pain. If you watch any video of the pzh2000 you can very quickly see it’s not 10 seconds, it’s 6. Even it’s partially assisted by the loaders putting charges in, it’s still worlds faster. Also, rip the Italian mains who were supposed to get a TT pzh2000 but didn’t show up
Gaijin with unrealistic implementations of russian equipment "Normal and totally fine". But Gaijin when implementing proven and realistic Nato stuff "Sorry, that's a marketing gimmick or not real, kid ok?". Bruh.
@@tplays6688 Its not constantly 3 seconds but only 3 seconds for a period. Its normally around 6 seconds like it was in the DEV. They wouldn't model the 3 seconds burst fire as they didn't even make the RDF/LT shoot a round every 0.85 seconds or its burst fire mode. The 10 seconds makes zero sense for the PZH2000.
They're scared of doing the same for RDF/LT. Reload, round, depression, modeling etc are all wrong. They don't want to buff them and nerf their reload to keep them at a "worthy 11.7" vehicle (which is not the case). Just up the BR FFS if you buff it to accuracy.
9:29 as a current French main, I love how quickly the gun settles on this thing (because wobbly guns is the bane of French vehicles). I expected it to be a complete bobble-head like the rest of the arty vehicles.
New cv90 is shit just like the rest of the 30mm bushmasters. They could’ve added other Mk IV variants but they chose specifically the one that’d be bad in war thunder
Commander sight doesn't work, lacking it's thermals and it should have a much faster reload The only vehicle from this update that wasn't incredibly rushed is the new BMD
PLZ05 is still king of SPGs for me, BR and everything considered. The spall liner on it is nasty, faster reload, hydropneumatic suspension making the gun depression A LOT more useable
@@rukinaa those rounds alone with the pneumatic suspension honestly makes me think its the best sph in the game i love that thing everyone sleeps on china
they ran out of vehicles to add, so they add vehicles previously considered to be too useless for a proper tank action (artilleries, light tanks with 20mm cannons)
They all use similar round with similar explosive mass so they make a model and just copy paste the shell. I love 155mm artillery but man, we dont need this many
CC can get newly dropped vehicles for free to advertise them to their viewers. Some vehicles are so exclusive that CC can only get a test drive for them.
I seen this vehicle firing rocket boosted artillery during the battle for bakmut , it has the ability to shoot 3 rounds in under 15 seconds . I do not think this amazing piece of artillery should be in this game
@@reinyfrost3753 that's a close one. With better reaction time, mobility, and LR could, The pzh is better imo, but it could go either way depending on who you ask
Speaking generously, 7.7 Marder and M48 aren't something you'd make a lineup for the sake of playing, and both Maus and Wiesel are pretty niche choices for enthusiasts on the two extremes of the vehicle spectrum. And because of that, unless one is such an enthusiast, Turm 3 is always a better choice of premium in that BR range than Ru. 8.3 with Gepard, Raketen, 8.0 lights, APFSDS Patton and said Turm is just so much more popular.
I don't know is it only me but when they keep some tanks "accurate" and just bullshit other tanks for no reason it just keeps building up and makes me not want to touch this game anymore. I would understand that they want to make it underpowered for the 7.7 line up but there is the chinese spg at the same BR that is a lot better not even talking about VIDAR that is just 0.3 br higher.
My cousin works as a commander for one of these self-propelled guns. It’s a six second reload not 10. I don’t know why they have to change things in this game. This game is supposed to be realistic. If it was realistic. These World War II error tanks wouldn’t be facing many vehicles that have heat rounds. There’s only a few possibly that it might’ve faced but at this point this game is getting further and further away from being realistic, something needs to change I feel like World War 2 tanks should go against ww2 tanks and so on and I feel like there’s another thing that needs to change well not really change but maybe another mode give us a ground realistic battle that is the same as what we have the only difference one will have aircraft and tanks and the other won’t have aircraft whatsoever
Buddy i don't know what are you smoking but the title is a bit exaggerating because there is no way pzh 2000 is king of spgs, with this stupid reload... Yeah the enemies will shoot you twice when you're reloading, not to mention the stock grind is extremely painful. I bet you GE your way to spaded it.
The Panzerhaubitze 2000 shows one more the superior german engineering, no artillery, stationary or mobilized comes close to the abilities and precision of the PHz 2000
Besides the obvious fact that the in-game implementation just sucks, the PzH 2000 is definitely not the best SPH out there. It is one of the best, but by no means the best, there are many systems that are comparable, being better in some aspects and worse in other.
Why does Gaijin like balancing every other nation stuff with reload and shell nerfs but it's all balanced around keeping their Russian stuff being historical? Wild.
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Good one. I think we all know why they use russia as a baseline though ;)
They also nerfed the Pzh speed from 60 to 50kph. Gun depression is wrong as well
New video soon?
Obj 292 penetration pretty historical)
Their Main Market isnt even Russia anymore. Its not located in Russia anymore nor does most of the Community. Its time to stop the Russian Bias.
Gaijin had to mess it up by nerfing its reload instead of giving it 6 seconds due to the autoloader, can't have something good and also accurate. smh
Not for countries other than the USSR. It's suck😢
Not for countries other than the USSR.
Its german mate, not russian. Ofc they purposefully mess it up.
@@MikaelLonely They know well that their Russian equipment is a pile of scrap with Western components, so they have to compensate for it.
we forgetting the chinese spg with fully spall liner turret with 7.5 autoloader at the same br with the same high velocity shell?
10 second reload. ye realistic very !
Look how they massacred my Boy 😢
it can shoot 3 rounds in under 15 seconds in real life
@@patrickescoe Yeah for a period. The 6 second reload aced it had was more than fine before they upped it to 10 seconds for some reason instead of just giving it its spall liners + raising its BR.
Holy SHHHHHIT that reload is a pain. If you watch any video of the pzh2000 you can very quickly see it’s not 10 seconds, it’s 6. Even it’s partially assisted by the loaders putting charges in, it’s still worlds faster.
Also, rip the Italian mains who were supposed to get a TT pzh2000 but didn’t show up
Gaijin with unrealistic implementations of russian equipment "Normal and totally fine". But Gaijin when implementing proven and realistic Nato stuff "Sorry, that's a marketing gimmick or not real, kid ok?". Bruh.
we've seen how well the Nato shit works in Ukraine under battlefield conditions
l u l
Sry man but Russian bias is a myth. Sweden, Britain and China casually dodge every BR change and ppl like: RUSSIAN BIAS.
@@illomens2766 And we've seen the hotpotatoes russians call T54, T64, T72, T80 and T90. The Ka 50s that get shot down by 1960s hand held stingers.
@@illomens2766os equipamentos russos funcionaram muito bem no Afeganistão. E estão funcionando muito bem na Ucrânia há 3 anos!!
@@illomens2766 We've seen how asymmetrical new drone age warfare fairs against equipment on both sides not designed to fight against them.
Vidar has a way better reload time, crystal clear thermals and higher maxspeed while sitting 0.3 in BR over this baby right here. Got it Gaijin.
Its a premium, why wouldn't it be better for its br? don't you know that premiums are allowed to be OP?
@@SHEEPS_123 Panzerhaubitze 2000 HU for Italy is a premium and has the same issue .. soooo
@@SHEEPS_123 Pzh2000 is a premium too
@@SHEEPS_123there are plenty of premiums that are terrible
Chef Jon has been cooking since morning
ayo chief
There is so much wrong ith this thing, people already bugreporting, lets hope they fix it.
Then ruzzian propaganda ministry will get madge
Apparently they already fixed it on the dev server, then unfixed it on the live server
WTF 10 S RELOAD ?
Where is the 3sec Reload it has IRL
with no good crew goes to 13sec reload
@@tplays6688 Its not constantly 3 seconds but only 3 seconds for a period. Its normally around 6 seconds like it was in the DEV. They wouldn't model the 3 seconds burst fire as they didn't even make the RDF/LT shoot a round every 0.85 seconds or its burst fire mode. The 10 seconds makes zero sense for the PZH2000.
Insteead of putting it at a way higher BR where it honestly belongs, they almost doubled the reload time because yea, why tf not 😅
They're scared of doing the same for RDF/LT. Reload, round, depression, modeling etc are all wrong. They don't want to buff them and nerf their reload to keep them at a "worthy 11.7" vehicle (which is not the case). Just up the BR FFS if you buff it to accuracy.
Yes sir love the content broski I watch every morning at work helps the day go by can’t wait for the next new one
Great video as always! Finaly the Maus lineup is getting better :) gonna get this after the Eurofighter
it had a 6.5 sec reload on the dev server, the 10.0 sec reload made it DOA
9:29 as a current French main, I love how quickly the gun settles on this thing (because wobbly guns is the bane of French vehicles). I expected it to be a complete bobble-head like the rest of the arty vehicles.
If you stop with the turret over the side they're all that stable.
@@PrivateMemo oscillating turrets are sometihng else my guy
Im so hyped to see you play all the new vehicles Jon, specially interested in seeing how the new CV90 will perform!
New cv90 is shit just like the rest of the 30mm bushmasters. They could’ve added other Mk IV variants but they chose specifically the one that’d be bad in war thunder
such a cool vehicle that is wasted in this implementation
Bro ranges a heli then manually adjusts for elevation on a target coming towards him. Weird from an otherwise amazing played.
Nice Video! Small hint: You can set a Keybind "Switch Fuze Mode" and only use VT Shells. Just switch between radar and impact fuze.
he knows. the problem is hevt is bugged rn and performs worse compared normal he with the same stats
Really? I haven't noticed anything like that in Plz 83 and Plz 05, HE-VT works just fine. Is there a bug report which was acknowledged?
The proxy shell on the PzH only travels at 580m/s while the 155mm OE F3 (Normal HE) travels at 935 m/s. Probably why he uses both.
Commander sight doesn't work, lacking it's thermals and it should have a much faster reload
The only vehicle from this update that wasn't incredibly rushed is the new BMD
How surprising. A Russian Vehicle. And of course the Squadron Su 33
@@tplays6688 The Su-33 does have some problems but as far as all the other new vehicles go it's basically nothing.
PLZ05 is still king of SPGs for me, BR and everything considered. The spall liner on it is nasty, faster reload, hydropneumatic suspension making the gun depression A LOT more useable
And don't forget the godly SAPHE rounds
@@Bmoney98 Can't believe I forgot to add that to the list
@@rukinaa those rounds alone with the pneumatic suspension honestly makes me think its the best sph in the game i love that thing everyone sleeps on china
@Bmoney98 China is a pretty fun nation to be fair even though it's a mixup of all the other nations
@@rukinaa facts
Gaijin have been obsessed with SPGs these last few updates 💀
they ran out of vehicles to add, so they add vehicles previously considered to be too useless for a proper tank action (artilleries, light tanks with 20mm cannons)
They all use similar round with similar explosive mass so they make a model and just copy paste the shell. I love 155mm artillery but man, we dont need this many
Could you try out the new VBCI light in the French tree? It doesn’t really seem that good in all honesty
Why do they have to nerf it it's supposed to reload fast it has a 4.98 second because it can fire 12 rounds under 59.74 seconds
My pzh2000 in game has stab but it is not stabilized. It's written on cyrcle on the left corner. Yours doesnt even have that. Wtf?
this thumbnail looks like the ho-ri prototype.
Why not use full proxy nowadays when you can turn off the automatic explosion with keybind?
Different velocity in the shells
BPA... you are way to fast with uploading these new patch vids
Only 5 hours since update and my man has already unlocked it
What the update is out now???
He can just ge it
CC can get newly dropped vehicles for free to advertise them to their viewers. Some vehicles are so exclusive that CC can only get a test drive for them.
The one vehicle I looked forward to and they butchered it. Guess Ill keep playing HD2 instead
Hi bpa jon! When do you stream on twitch?
im out of the loop on war thunder so when i saw the thumbnail i jsut assumed it was edited
nope
what is this starcraft bro
0:21 wanna know what else is massive?
Make a vid about M44 it's hella fun and very powerful at 4.0
I seen this vehicle firing rocket boosted artillery during the battle for bakmut , it has the ability to shoot 3 rounds in under 15 seconds . I do not think this amazing piece of artillery should be in this game
Gaijin has really been pissing me off recently
If this thing is 7.7, VIDAR should 100% be 8.3 by now.
Look how they massacred my boy!
Why take the regular HE when you can change the proxy to impact now?
The pz2000 gets a different HE that has a higher muzzle velocity, so you could just take HE-VT but it is slower
Because 155mm OE F3 is a better round than the m107 shell, no point in taking only thepf shell
@AirRBnpc @Jarg09631 Ahh okay I see it, that makes sense
hevt is bugged rn. It is just worse than normal he with the same stats
@@JARG09631 Makes sense, appreciate the answer
it looks like an mordenised maus:)
my favorite
You should only bring proxy and just bind the button to turn the fuze on or off, and then you don't have to change ammo
Unfortunately even then the proxy is weaker than what the stat card would lead you to believe
@fenfrostpaws2000 I'm pretty sure it is the exact same round just with a fuze. Unless I'm wrong and been misled
No, the proxy has 500m/s velocity while the top HE has a 900m/s
@@BPA_JonWT does that change its damage to ground vehicles? Or just the ballistics for ranging?
@@koontz1154 faster so it's better for longer range sniping.
Man why had they to nerf the reload?......
7.7 what the fuck but why am i not surprised
It's nerfed to 10 - 13 second reload. The PLZ-05 with its spall liners and 7.5 second reload for over 30+ shots out performs this thing.
WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT THE CHINA ONE!!!!!!
GG bro
worse than plz05 imo
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big boom
Was interested in getting the HU one but now since its way worse than Vider ill pass
You could have just ran with the proxy rounds and toggled the fuze instead of switching rounds.
The shells are different, the normal one has way more velocity
Play with the bmd 4m and add on amour bro
brutal
Erm where 6 second reload
HOW IS TYPE 99 WORSE THAN THIS?
slower, taller, no LR, and worse reaction speed. The pzh should also have at least a 5 sec reload.
@cbev1249 without the 5s reload (it has 10s atm), they honestly could be the same BR.
It has HMG autoloader and better ammo, reaction time is almost same,
Proxy shell really sucks it's even slower than m109
@@reinyfrost3753 that's a close one. With better reaction time, mobility, and LR could, The pzh is better imo, but it could go either way depending on who you ask
@cbev1249 On the other hand, 7.5s autoloader with high velocity proxy is very useful, and can be suitable for anti-air even.
That is a damn artillery piece why is it acting as a close
in tank what are you doing gaijin? 🤣
This looks quite a bit worse than the PLZ-05 tbh
This honestly should've been 8.3 with 6s reload and SAP. 7.7 is such a pointless BR choice for Germany.
7.7 is a pretty good br for germany wdym? Maus, m48a2, marder, ru251, wiesel, and a few airplanes is not a bad lineup at all
Speaking generously, 7.7 Marder and M48 aren't something you'd make a lineup for the sake of playing, and both Maus and Wiesel are pretty niche choices for enthusiasts on the two extremes of the vehicle spectrum. And because of that, unless one is such an enthusiast, Turm 3 is always a better choice of premium in that BR range than Ru.
8.3 with Gepard, Raketen, 8.0 lights, APFSDS Patton and said Turm is just so much more popular.
pzh 2000 has the projector/shell/warhead auto-loader, and the charge/propellant is manual load. why these guys still repeat the funny auto-load?
Yo
I don't know is it only me but when they keep some tanks "accurate" and just bullshit other tanks for no reason it just keeps building up and makes me not want to touch this game anymore. I would understand that they want to make it underpowered for the 7.7 line up but there is the chinese spg at the same BR that is a lot better not even talking about VIDAR that is just 0.3 br higher.
My cousin works as a commander for one of these self-propelled guns. It’s a six second reload not 10. I don’t know why they have to change things in this game. This game is supposed to be realistic. If it was realistic. These World War II error tanks wouldn’t be facing many vehicles that have heat rounds. There’s only a few possibly that it might’ve faced but at this point this game is getting further and further away from being realistic, something needs to change I feel like World War 2 tanks should go against ww2 tanks and so on and I feel like there’s another thing that needs to change well not really change but maybe another mode give us a ground realistic battle that is the same as what we have the only difference one will have aircraft and tanks and the other won’t have aircraft whatsoever
Self propelled artilley used as frontline tank destroyers is dumb and dosent belong in Wt
Bruh it’s a funny vehicle 😂
@@johnathanburke4872No
Its a video game, cope
day 12 of asking for udes
Buddy i don't know what are you smoking but the title is a bit exaggerating because there is no way pzh 2000 is king of spgs, with this stupid reload... Yeah the enemies will shoot you twice when you're reloading, not to mention the stock grind is extremely painful. I bet you GE your way to spaded it.
WHAT???? CCs get the Vehicles and GE for free???? cant be man
The Panzerhaubitze 2000 shows one more the superior german engineering, no artillery, stationary or mobilized comes close to the abilities and precision of the PHz 2000
Not in this game. In WT fantasyland it's garbage
@skdKitsune sadly yes
Besides the obvious fact that the in-game implementation just sucks, the PzH 2000 is definitely not the best SPH out there. It is one of the best, but by no means the best, there are many systems that are comparable, being better in some aspects and worse in other.