You, David Finch and Kim Jung Gi are some of the few artists who not only make great art, but are also fun to just watch make art. The process is fascinating.
@@huhulalammm he is one of the greatest comic book artist of all time. He has a TH-cam channel where you can check him out. Even if you’re not found of comic books, you can learn a lot from him.
I started wanting to learn how to draw exactly because i wanted to have cool art of my dnd characters, then as i also wanted to be able to get some coin out of it i've been doing some dnd commissions, you're 100% right lol
This is a lesson I learned the hard way, twice. I originally did nothing but fan-art, but the topic in question didn't really have a _market_ because most of the people there just kinda expected content for free (the one time someone came for a commission they called me a "dirty lobbyist artist" the moment I talked about money, which is still a story I like to share for the laughs of it). Then I said "ah y'know what screw that!" and swore of fan-art altogether and just focused on my own nerdy projects which was an equally big mistake, because I was WAY too - for lack of a better term - insignificant to pull something like that off. But now with some new passions in gaming I've had a bit of a rekindling, and I'm starting to gradually carve myself a proper niche into the Final Fantasy XIV community as a friend of mine suggested it (basically under the explanation of "there's 25 million registered players, and not nearly enough of them are artists") and as the fates would have it there absolutely is a market to tap into here. Of course a bit of art style analysis and experimentation is in check to make sure my work appeals to them, but it's going smoothly so far. I'm not in the position I'd like yet, but being able to have that extra money from time to time is really something _special._ A friend of mine wants to start up a TH-cam channel and is going to commission me when he gets paid next week for a character he wants to use for it, so that should be exciting. And in a way I'd like to thank you for these growing opportunities, Trent. These videos are some of the ones that help keep my head level and my hands a-goin' when my mind started to plague itself with doubt. I may not be where I want to now, but with the right mindset, work ethic, and a bit of luck, I'll get there eventually.
Dude, this video just reopened my eyes to such a big world. When I was young I always made money off of commissioning what people wanted, and somewhere along the way of living day by day with art on the backseat, only to have my passion rekindled I had this toxic mindset that people will want my weird ideas and style, when there are so many markets that are in desperate need for new art, and the kicker, is that you can still be unique and have your own style in these demographics if you do it right… somehow I forgot this is business and not an idealistic world of me pawning my ideas and stories to the masses lol. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m still going to try to sell my webcomic once I start finding my footing in the art world but that should be the long term goal, not the short term one, I hope you’ve found your own luck and niche in the 7months has passed since you’ve commented this, and I’d love to hear more about your personal art journey if you’d be willing to tell it.
@@LoachAo Hello there! I always try to respond to replies when I get them regardless of how old (unless they're just mocking me). My situation actually changed rather interestingly recently. Whilst I'm not of any social media fame by any stretch of the imagination I've been getting more involvement on both my own projects and fan art through a fair bit of networking, it's expanded to a few different games/topics recently. I'm not swimming in money by any stretch of the imagination either but I'm gradually getting stuff done. I've also jumped into the world of animation as it's something I myself am quite fond of. In regards to larger projects I actually got to speak with someone with SEO experience (specifically for an eSports organization) who sat down with me and helped me plan out a road of action for turning my original work into something bigger and eventually perhaps franchising it when things go well. As for my friend on the TH-cam side of things that simultaneously did but did not work out, they dropped the idea in favor of other pursuits but I am now working on art and visuals for my own TH-cam channel that I'll be uploading to as it's been something I've been advised to try a few times now (including by the aforementioned SEO).
@@DuskEalain dang, that’s genuinely sick, I’ve only recently refound my inspiration for art, and it led me to guys like Trent and David Finch, I’m at the very start of this journey where drawing digitally feels awkward and clunky to me lol. I’ve commented on quite a few peoples comments to see where they’ve landed but you’re the only one to respond. It’s very cool to hear how things are working out for you, it gives me more hope that things on my end aren’t just a fantasy I’m living in but I’ll be rooting for things to work even more in your favor from now on
@@LoachAo Oh man I remember when I started with digital, everything was so awkward and floaty. It definitely take some getting used to. And yeah it's kind of the issuing with "nercoing" threads online, you never know if you're going to get a reply or not. And thank you! I've got tons of work ahead of me but I'm trying to keep a pretty steady ethic to it, and I wish you the best of luck in your journeys as well!
One of the most useful, honest, & inspiring art videos that I've ever seen; I'm going to start trying some of these ideas within the next few weeks. Trent has reached Legendary Status as an art educator & advisor in my books. I aim to work for his Aquatic Moon Art House within 5 years. I think it would be both awesome and invaluable to have him as a boss, and would likely accelerate anyone's progress as a professional artist by 2 or 3X.
I have just gotten out of the military and am relived to be able to pursue art seriously. I , I have been trying to get good at art for a while and the last few years I have been putting in all my free time studying and learning about how to make art and the industry options. I found Trents videos 3 or 4 years ago and he has been huge inspiration and helped me get a good idea of where I stand. I am busting my ass to become a competitive artist and start art school in a few weeks. I've gotten a few small jobs doing some commissions but have been struggling where to look for something I enjoy a bit more and gives me a bit more networking options, so this video has some pretty spot on timing haha. Thank you for the inspiration and top quality advice! You're a Legend!
I think achieving your art goals is only a matter of time with your positive mindset & discipline. I once heard an interview with a 40 year old police officer who quit the force, gave up a very good promotion, & moved to Cali to pursue his goal to earn money making visual art, & was working doing box art designs for Nerf within 8 months of starting. I forget his name, (& what YT art channel that the interview was on), but I'm confident that he self-studied, & completed a highly respected/robust online course from a well-known artist. I assume he worked hard at it for 16-18hrs a day, every day, in order to achieve the results he did in the 8 month time-frame, as he implied that his "police training mindset" helped him to buckle down & reach a professional level unusually fast. I've been working at it for 6+years without any paid work yet, but that is partly my own fault for not always making art practice a priority. But the progress is there, and the compliments are beginning to trickle in as I put more out there, so it can only be a matter of months of focused effort before I reach my goal as well.
@@The_Local_Blacksmith That's pretty awesome to hear! Definitely a confident boost, I'm lucky to have alot of support and my life experience has definitely given me the right mindset!
Are you not afraid of dallee, midjourney and all the ai development? I was going to quit my government soulkilling job for art but I get lesser and lesser commissions, and I see more and more people getting good at rendering exactly what they want through ai programs :(
@@piotr2190 I definitely thinks it's a very real concern, but I think you just have to get good where the AI can't rn and be a tool that can work along side AI. 3D modeling, Animation and turnarounds/callouts are still things AI will probably not be good at for a while. AI seems amazing for generating ideas and concept art but still need an artist at higher levels to finish the job. But I do think that makes skill level for entry much higher and more difficult to get a job.
I'm just 4 mins in the video and I can confirm, even if I tried to sell my art to everyone, at least at the start, the best clients are RPG players. They are always super excited to see their characters come to life and every commission is fulfilling, you see they love the results and I would say 95% of the times they give you artistic freedom after they told you the few important charateristics (and I would say that if for those charateristics you have a cooler idea, they are most likely gonna go for it if they like it). So ye, long life to RPG games.
i always wanted to get into dnd and do illustrations and pinup illustrations, but i never knew how to exacly approach it, you know to get that first interaction. sometimes i heard of people mentioning that they are doing dnd commissions but i didnt know how they got to get into that niche specificaly.
@@paulolourencojr3d.662 In my case I found my first client while I was streaming on Twitch, he was me working, liked it and commissioned the first works. Another one came from a Twich follower who was an artist making commissions for the person that then became another client. The most recent one came from Twitter, a friend of him saw my work and told him about me. Another one came from reddit, he was hiring for a drawing and he ended up asking for 3 drawings in total. I would say post on as many places as you can and when you catch one, show yourself as professional and you'll be rewarded with more works or more clients. For everyone is different but what Trent said it's important, connections. If a group of players knows only one artist, they hardly search for more and when they do, they find artist that orbit around the first one. But again, if you want good clients, be a good professionist and make them feel your work is worth the money they are spending, give attentions and everything.
that's a really good advice. I never tried to sell my actual art, but I always somehow have buyers and customers, even when I cannon update my portfolio because of war in my country. But every time I'm so happy to have every customer because they stopped and looked at my art, liked it so much to pay me. It's adoradle feeling.
Awesome and insightful as always Trent. You channel has helped me make some side cash doing art this last year and I am absolutely stoked about that. Happy to hear about your next project in life.
This first tip is so true absolutely, making magic proxies as a service and contributing to like communities I was really interested in has helped me so much for like selling my artworks
I love how the need to provide a service to people helps me connect to people through art. The need for commissions helps me realize what people appreciate the most about what I can do. Celebrating what they love makes it feel so worthwhile. Thank u for this video the advice is so helpful!!!
You are way too good. I've always loved the type of art you draw from a young age. There was a kid in my class from South Africa who used to sketch obsessively in class and he was also way too good and drew fantasy type art. Since that day, I always had this passion for wanting to draw this style of artwork. Fast forward 20 years and I've done all sorts of things but only recently picked up an ipad and stylus to get into digital drawing. I play the MPC and do music production but I want to and already began my journey into the art world. Glad I found your channel...I will be following and watching your videos for a very long time. I also loved Metal Gear Solid and FFVII & FFIX. In fact I have all 3 in my phone as I type for PSX Emulator. You've just gained a new fan and pupil. I pray you are able to do what you love for a long time and God keeps you healthy to keep doing your thing. Your talent is inspiring but since I'm a beginner it's beyond my level but that's what drives me more because you show what is possible and that my future vision has hope. Thank you brother.
Hey Trent , I have been watching your content for a long time and binged the channel but thanks for THIS specific video because I needed to hear this advice of yours and now Im understanding how should I approach in terms of growing as an artist. Even though where Im from , people do not believe being artist is a "real job" but I'm not gonna give up. Im 19 rn (turning 20 soon) and I used to think my time is gone because I know artists who are younger and wayy more successful than I am but I also realized that for all these years that I gave to art...and understood everyone's journey is different. I hope I will someday be the artist I always dreamt to become...and again really thank you for making this video. May you grow even more as an artist because we need a phenomenal mentor like you ♥
Such an amazing video. I truly resonated with breaking down art styles and adapting plus the sound advice in the reflections of you experiences and memories.
I am horrible at marketing my art, but I still try to be myself and by doing that I tend to get more people talking to me about my art and if I sell anything
Art is a luxury, price it on the higher end because the people buying it have money to spend. One of my mentors sold his paintings for round 2000 bucks a piece.
Low end commission work is on its way out. High-Quality text to image generation that can mimic any style is already in beta FaZe Open source projects include dalle 2, midjourney, and stable diffusion. I recommend focusing on personal collectors of your work. Illustrators are at the same stage as classical oil painting was when the photography system was introduced.
i've been figuring out how to sell and market my art since i was 12. actually, it's way easier to network irl than online. why? schools, friends, teachers- and art teachers. art teachers put your stuff up, people see your work, you enter competitions and... people ask you what you can do for them, or if you ask, it's not coming out of the blue! second, mom's friends. it's easier to sell your art at higher value to people with a stable job, kids on the internet think they can get a headshot for a mcdonalds price, no thank you! and of course... saving.. gah.. i spent so much money on markers but i still use em so i guess i did good lol?
Sometimes you gotta do what you don't want to do in order to get where you want to be, but I would also advise that you *NEVER* compromise your beliefs or integrity to make a buck regardless on how fertile the ground is on a untapped niche-market. Finding an area of need and providing that need has always been a sound-strategy, but you have to find the need that works YOU as much as it works for the customer. In addition to making some ends to keep the lights on, is this going to help me level-up in my art-skills? Is this going to be inspirational to others and myself? Will this increase exposure to my brand so that others may inquire about my services in the future? Stuff like that.
I had to put my ego on the sidelines and realize nobody cares about ocs. Often times we artist are so attached to our creations that we don't think realistically so end up not progressing.
Great video! I just volunteered at my son's school booster club to help with their marketing. There are some cool design opportunities. I'll be working with art already provided to me but I'm sure I'll learn a lot in the process. Just sharing my example of a market I found that has a need in which I can provide a service for.
I know I've said it before but I loved doing art in the music scene and getting around on side hussles like that is....a challenge but kinda rewarding. I took what I could get out of it lol but it opened up a lot doors and pathways but now I'm older and I know that I definitely want to get into video gaming landscape illustrations, prop art, ect. However, I don't even know how I'm going to get my foot in that door 🥴🙃 lol Try try try until I succeed I guess?
funnily enough Im working on character for a client that will use it on their DnD sessions or similar games while listening to this lol. Very nice video, Trent. A niche is a good way to start, if you like things like FF14, try that, there are lots of people looking to have their characters done. But its been a long time since I started my path, for the record, my first paid work were done in deviantart points, the moment I earned enough to echange it for money I felt the best in the world for a minute lol. Personally, I noticed there is a demand for artists who can code, so I've been thinking to take some programming courses and HLSL and make myself more valuable aside from concept art. The idea, at least for me is always invest part of my earnings into further education to improve myself, be it on the art side or other.
This is one of my favorite details too, a lot of people get really hooked up on the concept of being "stuck" with one thing. But genres are very very wide, if you start with a niche, like the example you provided of doing FFXIV characters, you aren't "forever stuck making FFXIV characters" plenty of options open up for you because the Final Fantasy fanbase has a fair share of overlap with the Dungeons & Dragons fanbase (hell FFXIV's lead developer got roped into playing an Eorzea-themed D&D session and loved it), which in turn has a fair share of overlap with MTG, Warcraft, etc. etc. etc. And if you get really good at one franchise's characters or another, that can lead to the eyes of the company _making_ that franchise onto you as a potential hire. I'm currently saving my earnings from the odd commissions here and there to pursue some courses to better tighten up my fundamental skills and hopefully leave with a portfolio ready to send to various studios. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors!
thanks for the vid! I do have a question though, If one is curious to dabble in the NSFW side, should they create an alternate pen name for it to avoid the stigma? I would like to hear your opinion on this, thank you!
Completely agree with the person above, keep it separate. Also, because I see people wanting to jump into NSFW all the time these days, only do it because you WANT to do it. Don't jump in just because you think it's easy money, because it's not. It has its pros and cons like with anything else, and there IS a ton of money to be made, but that should never be the reason you do something, and you have to have absolutely top notch anatomy and fundamentals to stand out in the NSFW world now. Source: I have been a full time NSFW artist for several years now, and have watched a lot of good artists succeed AND fail at it.
Trent I literally just got down drawing a scorpion tattoo design for my hero characters when I opened this video. Should I take it as a sign?? lol I was checking out Spiderman logo and thinking of all the animals I want a logo/design of. Its crazy but this came right on time!
Trent would you know where to look for table top art jobs and book cover? I feel like I’ve exhausted all wording while searching on google. Thanks for the awesome videos!
Honestly, I think you should just keep posting on social media or join similar groups, I got some projects from just been discovered on Instagram or artstation, I do apply for things too when I see them, maybe create something and sell it on gumroad or other mediums and post it online to let people know that you are open for commissions or where they can get your things
This is a fantastic video, and also a very poetic drawing, watching it transform over time is pure magic. Related to the topic of doing a service(which i totally agree with all my heart) to the people, do you have suggestions for doing that service to people for longer projects? like if you were making a videogame how would you motivate yourself to make something you hate but people love to play and that potentially would take a good year of your life away, is the same mindset that you would apply to drawing?
Hi Trent, thanks for the valuable information in this and all your videos. I think it would be amazing if you could make a video on how to distile or analyze an artirst or studio style in order to be able to replicate it. I think in order to be of great service it's important to understand the specific language of the employer. Can you dive deeper into what things or characteristics we should pay attention to? Greetings from Mexico
Yea, alot of this is stuff I learned the hard way. I will point out, and its something you touched on, is that being successful in any field requires a lot of business acumen and actually knowing where to be at. Everything you said is functionally true and good advice. While this is great for a starter, it does little for anyone who lost relevance or just can't compete in the market they are/were in anymore. Its particularly important as a contrast to someone who was able to build a name and a business at a prime time as opposed to small-time contactors who focused on servicing a more private market. Personally, and many other artists I know, it gets close to impossible to get any work in a marketplace that gets swamped by people who can afford to do equivalent work for a fraction of the price - specifically artists from places like Malaysia where they can charge $20 for the same work you can only realistically afford to do for $100. Or a community you have been apart of for a long time goes down the NSFW path - which can often be work that you simply do not or morally cannot do. (These are simple examples). Couple that with massive shifts in the markets I work in, and demands for work that is treated equivalent to what I do but really have no connection (such as gluing sticks together and selling them as 'rustic crosses') and can often come across as an insult to me and the work I do. Then the '2020 problem' is still impacting lots of people. Frankly, most of us are starting to go back to school. As in my case, I am attempting to get into low level graphic design and printmaking as my old illustration and fine art services have died off completely. Forced to go and get a Bachelor's. I use to help people make books and work out their ideas - but no one wants what I have to offer anymore. It effectively made me freak out and figure I am just not good enough to compete at a level I can afford. Not to knock on the people who can work these markets or afford those competitive prices - many (if not most) are great at what they do and are acting within the confines of the space they are comfortable with. Much like you pointed out, the only real assurances you have are with groups who prefer 'you' and your brand of work within the confines of their needs. This is all coming from someone who chased opportunities, literally created games and products to showcase my skills, shifted styles, worked heavily on my skills, and threw just about everything at the wall. When you lack certain business acumen and social skills, its not uncommon for you to just lose. That is a functional reality we all have to deal with - some of us will just lose and there isn't much you can do about it other than shift gears. Its a huge competition in an ever increasingly global market, and both pocketbooks and interest in new things are drastically decreasing. The only people I am seeing right now (from an American perspective) are those who are able to get work from corporate sources or those who can afford the low amount of money people are willing to pay for commission work. I would be ecstatic if I could get my $100-$500 dollar jobs like I use to, but they just aren't there anymore (at least from my perspective). This may sound like my sob-story or that I am just being negative - but I am just expressing my perspective when listening to this, and perhaps Trent may have good advice for this kind of situation.
Well, just as Trent said, you gotta start with the shit jobs before climbing up. Fuck your morals I guess, in the term of the bigger goal. A jobs a job after all. Or you just have to put more research into other niche markets you can work for
You might have a valuable skill that you can sell, that you don’t realize. Experience and skill will always be in demand. But sometimes the customer changes, or moves. If you are a good artist, you can always find a customer that needs good art, or needs to know things that you know how to do. Try looking for a new type of customer.
i think the more in-demand artists get customers through yt, and by establishing a community around what they do on here specifically. this platform is just a big funnel where most eyes are right now, so the game becomes how do you turn watchers into customers. it helps if, you, either have, or establish a brand. as you mentioned, freelance offerings will get blown out by the global market of who can do it cheaper, which is a race to the bottom. personally, without the community/brand, art is just a hobby that may net you pocket-change, and is def not a career. good luck.
@@torrentthom4734 Ok this makes me think you don't know what you are talking about - not to be rude. A majority of "art work" is not reliant on popularity contests - there is a reason that 'Art' is one of the cornerstones of education and functionally the backbone of communications (its literally the purpose of art). I was going to go on a whole diatribe on the nature of this but that sums it up and it wouldn't accomplish anything.
Ahh, this art piece with solder - please, tell me what this style is called correctly? Such sexy half-tones. And thank you so much for all the advice in your videos. I'm determine to get my art career start after 20 years of procrastination - so many mental issues and life turns which held me back. (I had art education, and almost haven't drawn in 20+ years) You're such a beautiful speaker and motivator, thank you!
I have a request: I’d love to see what you can do with Affinity Designer/Photo. I don’t think Affinity gets enough credit for artists, especially for people just starting out.
What's up Trent I'm such A Big Fan of yours Anyway I like your Art I use to draw but I was thinking about going to back to drawing what I use to love to do when I was feeling boredom And me I really love the game you did I'm still enjoying playing final fight streetwise some people say that final fight streetwise wasn't A good game but to me I like it cause it was what I got for my sixteen birthday gift back in 2006 now I'm 32 years old and I still enjoying playing the game I'm just saying
after listening to that i kinda want to explore more dnd since every campaign can have a different setting like high fantasy, dark fantasy etc... but i have no idea how to get started.
hello, trent, i have a full time job, and do art seriously for fun. and never took a day off from drawing. and sometimes i got asked to do commission.. but here and there i found someone brave enough to ask for free, or just want to take my time working on schedule for 2-3 months just for 300 bucks. and i found that kinda rude. hows your take? should i just block em? or i still take the job, and throw the fun away. cuz for me dealing with those kinda people just wasting my energy.
Just set a price for your time. It’s non negotiable (unless you need the money). Don’t waste time trying to convince anyone that your time is worth the price. If they get sticker shock, or try to talk you down, thank them for the interest, but decline those jobs, unless you want to do them.
Hi Trent! Awesome video I really also as an artist wanted to get into selling my art and learn to effectively do so. You stated on your video about books on marketing if I'm not correct. What book(s) do you recommend that would be great for an artist to start with! Thank you!
I dunno if you read the comments, but isn't fan-art a murky terretory? If you sell fanart of Batman or Nintendo, won't they become hesitant to work with you in the future? Or won't they insist you DON'T sell stuff?
From what I've seen and experienced. It _really_ depends on the company. Disney, for instance, will nuke you from orbit if they learn they can. Others however tend to be more lenient (especially for RPGs, like WotC for D&D and Square Enix for Final Fantasy), Japanese properties in general tend to be more lenient on fan art due differences in the art culture there (so long as you aren't mass producing things and trying to come across as official that is). And there have been several artists that have gotten their start with a company via their fan art being noticed by them. Like most things in art, it just kinda depends on a myriad of factors.
how to make money as an artist ? talk to video you made while drawing for money, create a story, record it make it whole, post on YT catchy story makes ppl stay and listen WHOLE VIDEO, why? beacuse yt is paying for time you spend watching someones videos = extra money
sry for tldr post. (note I for sure agree and appreciate this video) I keep hearing about beginner artists, but what about the ones that have been in it and still has a hard time securing the paycheck enough to make a living? For instance they got professional experience, but get type casted into the same job which also eats up the time for their own passion projects. Like hypothetically speaking, the artist has a very refined style that is unique, can do it very fast, with large library of different studied experience via character and environments, and the biggest challenge is not enough time between professional (NDA) work vs their passion project (which could ideally build a passive income if generating enough of a following) which ultimately would push them up to the next level of the following was built. Say the intermediate to advanced artist that either solely stuck in professional jobs bsck to back and/or living off commissions, both of which are time consuming to a point they can't build their own passive income via social media. What is the strategy? I feel like somewhere you answered it, but at the sametime I also feel like their is a leap or hump between pro artist vs social media artist. Like the two clash and the actionable steps are too vague.
The unspoken advice: if you really need money, and don’t care about ethics or morals, make furry porn. Also known as the place where every artist’s dignity goes to die…
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I have a weird relationship with art as I just want to draw what I want to draw. I want to work on my comic, so I do and try to sell it on the side of a full time job. Even though it doesn't sell like crazy (usually break even on an issue), it's giving me a sense of pride to see my work out in the wild and that I've started the journey with my comic idea. On the flip side, I've worked on art commissions for other people and I find it hard to enjoy art when I'm told what I should be doing. The more I do art as a job for other people, the less I want to do it. I think for me art will always be that hobby that makes me a little bit of money on the side and I'm ok with that. I enjoy my comic making journey and I'm looking forward to continuing with it. Shameless plug: If anyone is interested, my comics are available digitally over on my Ko-fi shop ko-fi.com/joelryan/shop
You, David Finch and Kim Jung Gi are some of the few artists who not only make great art, but are also fun to just watch make art. The process is fascinating.
Who's david finch?
@@huhulalammm Comic book artist. Look him up. Has a pretty successful YT channel where he does Monday Night Draw shows ever week and shares tutorials.
I also love watching Karl Kopinski. it´s always so pleasing to watch him turn his loose pencil scribbles into this amazing brush pen drawings.
@@huhulalammm he is one of the greatest comic book artist of all time. He has a TH-cam channel where you can check him out. Even if you’re not found of comic books, you can learn a lot from him.
I started wanting to learn how to draw exactly because i wanted to have cool art of my dnd characters, then as i also wanted to be able to get some coin out of it i've been doing some dnd commissions, you're 100% right lol
This is a lesson I learned the hard way, twice.
I originally did nothing but fan-art, but the topic in question didn't really have a _market_ because most of the people there just kinda expected content for free (the one time someone came for a commission they called me a "dirty lobbyist artist" the moment I talked about money, which is still a story I like to share for the laughs of it). Then I said "ah y'know what screw that!" and swore of fan-art altogether and just focused on my own nerdy projects which was an equally big mistake, because I was WAY too - for lack of a better term - insignificant to pull something like that off.
But now with some new passions in gaming I've had a bit of a rekindling, and I'm starting to gradually carve myself a proper niche into the Final Fantasy XIV community as a friend of mine suggested it (basically under the explanation of "there's 25 million registered players, and not nearly enough of them are artists") and as the fates would have it there absolutely is a market to tap into here. Of course a bit of art style analysis and experimentation is in check to make sure my work appeals to them, but it's going smoothly so far.
I'm not in the position I'd like yet, but being able to have that extra money from time to time is really something _special._ A friend of mine wants to start up a TH-cam channel and is going to commission me when he gets paid next week for a character he wants to use for it, so that should be exciting. And in a way I'd like to thank you for these growing opportunities, Trent. These videos are some of the ones that help keep my head level and my hands a-goin' when my mind started to plague itself with doubt. I may not be where I want to now, but with the right mindset, work ethic, and a bit of luck, I'll get there eventually.
Dude, this video just reopened my eyes to such a big world. When I was young I always made money off of commissioning what people wanted, and somewhere along the way of living day by day with art on the backseat, only to have my passion rekindled I had this toxic mindset that people will want my weird ideas and style, when there are so many markets that are in desperate need for new art, and the kicker, is that you can still be unique and have your own style in these demographics if you do it right… somehow I forgot this is business and not an idealistic world of me pawning my ideas and stories to the masses lol.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m still going to try to sell my webcomic once I start finding my footing in the art world but that should be the long term goal, not the short term one, I hope you’ve found your own luck and niche in the 7months has passed since you’ve commented this, and I’d love to hear more about your personal art journey if you’d be willing to tell it.
@@LoachAo Hello there! I always try to respond to replies when I get them regardless of how old (unless they're just mocking me). My situation actually changed rather interestingly recently.
Whilst I'm not of any social media fame by any stretch of the imagination I've been getting more involvement on both my own projects and fan art through a fair bit of networking, it's expanded to a few different games/topics recently. I'm not swimming in money by any stretch of the imagination either but I'm gradually getting stuff done. I've also jumped into the world of animation as it's something I myself am quite fond of.
In regards to larger projects I actually got to speak with someone with SEO experience (specifically for an eSports organization) who sat down with me and helped me plan out a road of action for turning my original work into something bigger and eventually perhaps franchising it when things go well. As for my friend on the TH-cam side of things that simultaneously did but did not work out, they dropped the idea in favor of other pursuits but I am now working on art and visuals for my own TH-cam channel that I'll be uploading to as it's been something I've been advised to try a few times now (including by the aforementioned SEO).
@@DuskEalain dang, that’s genuinely sick, I’ve only recently refound my inspiration for art, and it led me to guys like Trent and David Finch, I’m at the very start of this journey where drawing digitally feels awkward and clunky to me lol. I’ve commented on quite a few peoples comments to see where they’ve landed but you’re the only one to respond. It’s very cool to hear how things are working out for you, it gives me more hope that things on my end aren’t just a fantasy I’m living in but I’ll be rooting for things to work even more in your favor from now on
@@LoachAo Oh man I remember when I started with digital, everything was so awkward and floaty. It definitely take some getting used to.
And yeah it's kind of the issuing with "nercoing" threads online, you never know if you're going to get a reply or not.
And thank you! I've got tons of work ahead of me but I'm trying to keep a pretty steady ethic to it, and I wish you the best of luck in your journeys as well!
One of the most useful, honest, & inspiring art videos that I've ever seen; I'm going to start trying some of these ideas within the next few weeks. Trent has reached Legendary Status as an art educator & advisor in my books.
I aim to work for his Aquatic Moon Art House within 5 years. I think it would be both awesome and invaluable to have him as a boss, and would likely accelerate anyone's progress as a professional artist by 2 or 3X.
I have just gotten out of the military and am relived to be able to pursue art seriously. I , I have been trying to get good at art for a while and the last few years I have been putting in all my free time studying and learning about how to make art and the industry options. I found Trents videos 3 or 4 years ago and he has been huge inspiration and helped me get a good idea of where I stand. I am busting my ass to become a competitive artist and start art school in a few weeks. I've gotten a few small jobs doing some commissions but have been struggling where to look for something I enjoy a bit more and gives me a bit more networking options, so this video has some pretty spot on timing haha. Thank you for the inspiration and top quality advice! You're a Legend!
I think achieving your art goals is only a matter of time with your positive mindset & discipline.
I once heard an interview with a 40 year old police officer who quit the force, gave up a very good promotion, & moved to Cali to pursue his goal to earn money making visual art, & was working doing box art designs for Nerf within 8 months of starting. I forget his name, (& what YT art channel that the interview was on), but I'm confident that he self-studied, & completed a highly respected/robust online course from a well-known artist.
I assume he worked hard at it for 16-18hrs a day, every day, in order to achieve the results he did in the 8 month time-frame, as he implied that his "police training mindset" helped him to buckle down & reach a professional level unusually fast.
I've been working at it for 6+years without any paid work yet, but that is partly my own fault for not always making art practice a priority. But the progress is there, and the compliments are beginning to trickle in as I put more out there, so it can only be a matter of months of focused effort before I reach my goal as well.
@@The_Local_Blacksmith That's pretty awesome to hear! Definitely a confident boost, I'm lucky to have alot of support and my life experience has definitely given me the right mindset!
That is awesome to hear. Do you have any socials where you post your work?
Are you not afraid of dallee, midjourney and all the ai development? I was going to quit my government soulkilling job for art but I get lesser and lesser commissions, and I see more and more people getting good at rendering exactly what they want through ai programs :(
@@piotr2190 I definitely thinks it's a very real concern, but I think you just have to get good where the AI can't rn and be a tool that can work along side AI. 3D modeling, Animation and turnarounds/callouts are still things AI will probably not be good at for a while. AI seems amazing for generating ideas and concept art but still need an artist at higher levels to finish the job. But I do think that makes skill level for entry much higher and more difficult to get a job.
This was a great subject to cover and it was covered well.
That drawing is incredible
I'm just 4 mins in the video and I can confirm, even if I tried to sell my art to everyone, at least at the start, the best clients are RPG players. They are always super excited to see their characters come to life and every commission is fulfilling, you see they love the results and I would say 95% of the times they give you artistic freedom after they told you the few important charateristics (and I would say that if for those charateristics you have a cooler idea, they are most likely gonna go for it if they like it). So ye, long life to RPG games.
i always wanted to get into dnd and do illustrations and pinup illustrations, but i never knew how to exacly approach it, you know to get that first interaction.
sometimes i heard of people mentioning that they are doing dnd commissions but i didnt know how they got to get into that niche specificaly.
@@paulolourencojr3d.662 In my case I found my first client while I was streaming on Twitch, he was me working, liked it and commissioned the first works. Another one came from a Twich follower who was an artist making commissions for the person that then became another client. The most recent one came from Twitter, a friend of him saw my work and told him about me. Another one came from reddit, he was hiring for a drawing and he ended up asking for 3 drawings in total.
I would say post on as many places as you can and when you catch one, show yourself as professional and you'll be rewarded with more works or more clients. For everyone is different but what Trent said it's important, connections. If a group of players knows only one artist, they hardly search for more and when they do, they find artist that orbit around the first one.
But again, if you want good clients, be a good professionist and make them feel your work is worth the money they are spending, give attentions and everything.
that's a really good advice. I never tried to sell my actual art, but I always somehow have buyers and customers, even when I cannon update my portfolio because of war in my country. But every time I'm so happy to have every customer because they stopped and looked at my art, liked it so much to pay me. It's adoradle feeling.
Learning to break successful things down to replicate and improve upon is one of the things that really changed my life-- not only my art!
Awesome and insightful as always Trent. You channel has helped me make some side cash doing art this last year and I am absolutely stoked about that. Happy to hear about your next project in life.
This first tip is so true absolutely, making magic proxies as a service and contributing to like communities I was really interested in has helped me so much for like selling my artworks
Just passing by to say thank you for everything Trent
I love how the need to provide a service to people helps me connect to people through art. The need for commissions helps me realize what people appreciate the most about what I can do. Celebrating what they love makes it feel so worthwhile. Thank u for this video the advice is so helpful!!!
I wanted to thank you for your videos they have helped me a lot since I think about following a career congratulations for your beautiful work
Same here
You are way too good. I've always loved the type of art you draw from a young age. There was a kid in my class from South Africa who used to sketch obsessively in class and he was also way too good and drew fantasy type art. Since that day, I always had this passion for wanting to draw this style of artwork. Fast forward 20 years and I've done all sorts of things but only recently picked up an ipad and stylus to get into digital drawing. I play the MPC and do music production but I want to and already began my journey into the art world. Glad I found your channel...I will be following and watching your videos for a very long time. I also loved Metal Gear Solid and FFVII & FFIX. In fact I have all 3 in my phone as I type for PSX Emulator. You've just gained a new fan and pupil. I pray you are able to do what you love for a long time and God keeps you healthy to keep doing your thing. Your talent is inspiring but since I'm a beginner it's beyond my level but that's what drives me more because you show what is possible and that my future vision has hope. Thank you brother.
Hey Trent ,
I have been watching your content for a long time and binged the channel but thanks for THIS specific video because I needed to hear this advice of yours and now Im understanding how should I approach in terms of growing as an artist. Even though where Im from , people do not believe being artist is a "real job" but I'm not gonna give up. Im 19 rn (turning 20 soon) and I used to think my time is gone because I know artists who are younger and wayy more successful than I am but I also realized that for all these years that I gave to art...and understood everyone's journey is different. I hope I will someday be the artist I always dreamt to become...and again really thank you for making this video. May you grow even more as an artist because we need a phenomenal mentor like you ♥
Such an amazing video. I truly resonated with breaking down art styles and adapting plus the sound advice in the reflections of you experiences and memories.
This is exactly what I needed to hear right now. I’m definitely jumping into that discord server
Thanks Trent, those are great tips! Oh, and nice painting, by the way!
14:00 Guilty as charged! like, I'm Steve Ditko level of intense with that, hahaha!
I am horrible at marketing my art, but I still try to be myself and by doing that I tend to get more people talking to me about my art and if I sell anything
Love your content! You're one of those people that I could listen to all day! Have you ever considered doing podcast kinds of talks?
My problem is always the pricing. I have no idea what to price my art. I always think its too high or too low
Art is a luxury, price it on the higher end because the people buying it have money to spend. One of my mentors sold his paintings for round 2000 bucks a piece.
Don't price it at 2000 though just, think reasonably
precious information as always
Low end commission work is on its way out. High-Quality text to image generation that can mimic any style is already in beta FaZe Open source projects include dalle 2, midjourney, and stable diffusion. I recommend focusing on personal collectors of your work. Illustrators are at the same stage as classical oil painting was when the photography system was introduced.
Disagree those tools are not perfect even AI have fast learning but still can't beat human till this day except for the future
i've been figuring out how to sell and market my art since i was 12. actually, it's way easier to network irl than online. why? schools, friends, teachers- and art teachers. art teachers put your stuff up, people see your work, you enter competitions and... people ask you what you can do for them, or if you ask, it's not coming out of the blue! second, mom's friends. it's easier to sell your art at higher value to people with a stable job, kids on the internet think they can get a headshot for a mcdonalds price, no thank you!
and of course... saving.. gah.. i spent so much money on markers but i still use em so i guess i did good lol?
Sometimes you gotta do what you don't want to do in order to get where you want to be, but I would also advise that you *NEVER* compromise your beliefs or integrity to make a buck regardless on how fertile the ground is on a untapped niche-market.
Finding an area of need and providing that need has always been a sound-strategy, but you have to find the need that works YOU as much as it works for the customer. In addition to making some ends to keep the lights on, is this going to help me level-up in my art-skills? Is this going to be inspirational to others and myself? Will this increase exposure to my brand so that others may inquire about my services in the future? Stuff like that.
This was hard to take in, but I had to hear this.
I had to put my ego on the sidelines and realize nobody cares about ocs. Often times we artist are so attached to our creations that we don't think realistically so end up not progressing.
Great video!
I just volunteered at my son's school booster club to help with their marketing. There are some cool design opportunities. I'll be working with art already provided to me but I'm sure I'll learn a lot in the process. Just sharing my example of a market I found that has a need in which I can provide a service for.
I know I've said it before but I loved doing art in the music scene and getting around on side hussles like that is....a challenge but kinda rewarding. I took what I could get out of it lol but it opened up a lot doors and pathways but now I'm older and I know that I definitely want to get into video gaming landscape illustrations, prop art, ect. However, I don't even know how I'm going to get my foot in that door 🥴🙃 lol
Try try try until I succeed I guess?
funnily enough Im working on character for a client that will use it on their DnD sessions or similar games while listening to this lol. Very nice video, Trent.
A niche is a good way to start, if you like things like FF14, try that, there are lots of people looking to have their characters done.
But its been a long time since I started my path, for the record, my first paid work were done in deviantart points, the moment I earned enough to echange it for money I felt the best in the world for a minute lol.
Personally, I noticed there is a demand for artists who can code, so I've been thinking to take some programming courses and HLSL and make myself more valuable aside from concept art. The idea, at least for me is always invest part of my earnings into further education to improve myself, be it on the art side or other.
This is one of my favorite details too, a lot of people get really hooked up on the concept of being "stuck" with one thing.
But genres are very very wide, if you start with a niche, like the example you provided of doing FFXIV characters, you aren't "forever stuck making FFXIV characters" plenty of options open up for you because the Final Fantasy fanbase has a fair share of overlap with the Dungeons & Dragons fanbase (hell FFXIV's lead developer got roped into playing an Eorzea-themed D&D session and loved it), which in turn has a fair share of overlap with MTG, Warcraft, etc. etc. etc.
And if you get really good at one franchise's characters or another, that can lead to the eyes of the company _making_ that franchise onto you as a potential hire.
I'm currently saving my earnings from the odd commissions here and there to pursue some courses to better tighten up my fundamental skills and hopefully leave with a portfolio ready to send to various studios. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors!
thanks for the vid! I do have a question though, If one is curious to dabble in the NSFW side, should they create an alternate pen name for it to avoid the stigma? I would like to hear your opinion on this, thank you!
From personal experience I would recommend keeping it separate and developing them as separate brands.
Completely agree with the person above, keep it separate. Also, because I see people wanting to jump into NSFW all the time these days, only do it because you WANT to do it. Don't jump in just because you think it's easy money, because it's not. It has its pros and cons like with anything else, and there IS a ton of money to be made, but that should never be the reason you do something, and you have to have absolutely top notch anatomy and fundamentals to stand out in the NSFW world now. Source: I have been a full time NSFW artist for several years now, and have watched a lot of good artists succeed AND fail at it.
Trent I literally just got down drawing a scorpion tattoo design for my hero characters when I opened this video. Should I take it as a sign?? lol I was checking out Spiderman logo and thinking of all the animals I want a logo/design of. Its crazy but this came right on time!
Trent would you know where to look for table top art jobs and book cover? I feel like I’ve exhausted all wording while searching on google. Thanks for the awesome videos!
Honestly, I think you should just keep posting on social media or join similar groups, I got some projects from just been discovered on Instagram or artstation, I do apply for things too when I see them, maybe create something and sell it on gumroad or other mediums and post it online to let people know that you are open for commissions or where they can get your things
could you talk about how you got your first art job and how to find the smaller/indie businesses
I have many videos on this subject.
Dead on about DND characters! I literally have built my illustration business on DnD artwork
That's insanely work! I've been do it that mate
This is a fantastic video, and also a very poetic drawing, watching it transform over time is pure magic.
Related to the topic of doing a service(which i totally agree with all my heart) to the people, do you have suggestions for doing that service to people for longer projects? like if you were making a videogame how would you motivate yourself to make something you hate but people love to play and that potentially would take a good year of your life away, is the same mindset that you would apply to drawing?
Very insightful video, hope i can be able to do some commission work very soon.
I would love to see another redesign vidoe like the one where you redesigned link.
Hi Trent, thanks for the valuable information in this and all your videos. I think it would be amazing if you could make a video on how to distile or analyze an artirst or studio style in order to be able to replicate it. I think in order to be of great service it's important to understand the specific language of the employer. Can you dive deeper into what things or characteristics we should pay attention to? Greetings from Mexico
the background in this image is really blowing my mind. do you cover the methods in this speedpaint in your Legendary Photoshop Cheat Box gumroad?
Yea, alot of this is stuff I learned the hard way. I will point out, and its something you touched on, is that being successful in any field requires a lot of business acumen and actually knowing where to be at. Everything you said is functionally true and good advice.
While this is great for a starter, it does little for anyone who lost relevance or just can't compete in the market they are/were in anymore. Its particularly important as a contrast to someone who was able to build a name and a business at a prime time as opposed to small-time contactors who focused on servicing a more private market.
Personally, and many other artists I know, it gets close to impossible to get any work in a marketplace that gets swamped by people who can afford to do equivalent work for a fraction of the price - specifically artists from places like Malaysia where they can charge $20 for the same work you can only realistically afford to do for $100. Or a community you have been apart of for a long time goes down the NSFW path - which can often be work that you simply do not or morally cannot do. (These are simple examples). Couple that with massive shifts in the markets I work in, and demands for work that is treated equivalent to what I do but really have no connection (such as gluing sticks together and selling them as 'rustic crosses') and can often come across as an insult to me and the work I do. Then the '2020 problem' is still impacting lots of people.
Frankly, most of us are starting to go back to school. As in my case, I am attempting to get into low level graphic design and printmaking as my old illustration and fine art services have died off completely. Forced to go and get a Bachelor's. I use to help people make books and work out their ideas - but no one wants what I have to offer anymore. It effectively made me freak out and figure I am just not good enough to compete at a level I can afford.
Not to knock on the people who can work these markets or afford those competitive prices - many (if not most) are great at what they do and are acting within the confines of the space they are comfortable with. Much like you pointed out, the only real assurances you have are with groups who prefer 'you' and your brand of work within the confines of their needs.
This is all coming from someone who chased opportunities, literally created games and products to showcase my skills, shifted styles, worked heavily on my skills, and threw just about everything at the wall. When you lack certain business acumen and social skills, its not uncommon for you to just lose.
That is a functional reality we all have to deal with - some of us will just lose and there isn't much you can do about it other than shift gears. Its a huge competition in an ever increasingly global market, and both pocketbooks and interest in new things are drastically decreasing. The only people I am seeing right now (from an American perspective) are those who are able to get work from corporate sources or those who can afford the low amount of money people are willing to pay for commission work.
I would be ecstatic if I could get my $100-$500 dollar jobs like I use to, but they just aren't there anymore (at least from my perspective).
This may sound like my sob-story or that I am just being negative - but I am just expressing my perspective when listening to this, and perhaps Trent may have good advice for this kind of situation.
Well, just as Trent said, you gotta start with the shit jobs before climbing up. Fuck your morals I guess, in the term of the bigger goal. A jobs a job after all. Or you just have to put more research into other niche markets you can work for
You might have a valuable skill that you can sell, that you don’t realize. Experience and skill will always be in demand. But sometimes the customer changes, or moves. If you are a good artist, you can always find a customer that needs good art, or needs to know things that you know how to do. Try looking for a new type of customer.
@@TrentKaniuga alas, it's the act of finding that skill and market being the problem.
It is why I switched gears though - hopefully I can find it.
i think the more in-demand artists get customers through yt, and by establishing a community around what they do on here specifically. this platform is just a big funnel where most eyes are right now, so the game becomes how do you turn watchers into customers. it helps if, you, either have, or establish a brand. as you mentioned, freelance offerings will get blown out by the global market of who can do it cheaper, which is a race to the bottom. personally, without the community/brand, art is just a hobby that may net you pocket-change, and is def not a career. good luck.
@@torrentthom4734 Ok this makes me think you don't know what you are talking about - not to be rude. A majority of "art work" is not reliant on popularity contests - there is a reason that 'Art' is one of the cornerstones of education and functionally the backbone of communications (its literally the purpose of art).
I was going to go on a whole diatribe on the nature of this but that sums it up and it wouldn't accomplish anything.
Ahh, this art piece with solder - please, tell me what this style is called correctly? Such sexy half-tones.
And thank you so much for all the advice in your videos. I'm determine to get my art career start after 20 years of procrastination - so many mental issues and life turns which held me back. (I had art education, and almost haven't drawn in 20+ years) You're such a beautiful speaker and motivator, thank you!
I have a request: I’d love to see what you can do with Affinity Designer/Photo. I don’t think Affinity gets enough credit for artists, especially for people just starting out.
Which tablet you use?
Sometimes I think about Intuos Pro, and sometimes about just simple iPad...
What's up Trent I'm such A Big Fan of yours Anyway I like your Art I use to draw but I was thinking about going to back to drawing what I use to love to do when I was feeling boredom And me I really love the game you did I'm still enjoying playing final fight streetwise some people say that final fight streetwise wasn't A good game but to me I like it cause it was what I got for my sixteen birthday gift back in 2006 now I'm 32 years old and I still enjoying playing the game I'm just saying
Later we will talk about the video, but... The drawing was amazing
I love your videoes but damn is it overwhelming sometimes😅, I'am honestly not sure what to do with art because Iam so Indecisive..
after listening to that i kinda want to explore more dnd since every campaign can have a different setting like high fantasy, dark fantasy etc... but i have no idea how to get started.
hello, trent, i have a full time job, and do art seriously for fun. and never took a day off from drawing.
and sometimes i got asked to do commission.. but here and there i found someone brave enough to ask for free, or just want to take my time working on schedule for 2-3 months just for 300 bucks. and i found that kinda rude.
hows your take?
should i just block em? or i still take the job, and throw the fun away. cuz for me dealing with those kinda people just wasting my energy.
Just set a price for your time. It’s non negotiable (unless you need the money). Don’t waste time trying to convince anyone that your time is worth the price. If they get sticker shock, or try to talk you down, thank them for the interest, but decline those jobs, unless you want to do them.
Hi Trent! Awesome video I really also as an artist wanted to get into selling my art and learn to effectively do so. You stated on your video about books on marketing if I'm not correct. What book(s) do you recommend that would be great for an artist to start with! Thank you!
Start with the 4 hour work week, by Tim Ferriss.
@@TrentKaniuga Thank you! Really appreciate it! Can't wait for Twilight Monk on steam! :D
Thank you
Please tell me what program are you using to draw this picture ? Please and that you.
I dunno if you read the comments, but isn't fan-art a murky terretory? If you sell fanart of Batman or Nintendo, won't they become hesitant to work with you in the future? Or won't they insist you DON'T sell stuff?
From what I've seen and experienced. It _really_ depends on the company.
Disney, for instance, will nuke you from orbit if they learn they can. Others however tend to be more lenient (especially for RPGs, like WotC for D&D and Square Enix for Final Fantasy), Japanese properties in general tend to be more lenient on fan art due differences in the art culture there (so long as you aren't mass producing things and trying to come across as official that is). And there have been several artists that have gotten their start with a company via their fan art being noticed by them.
Like most things in art, it just kinda depends on a myriad of factors.
Watch my videos about fan art.
how to make money as an artist ? talk to video you made while drawing for money, create a story, record it make it whole, post on YT catchy story makes ppl stay and listen WHOLE VIDEO, why? beacuse yt is paying for time you spend watching someones videos = extra money
sry for tldr post. (note I for sure agree and appreciate this video)
I keep hearing about beginner artists, but what about the ones that have been in it and still has a hard time securing the paycheck enough to make a living? For instance they got professional experience, but get type casted into the same job which also eats up the time for their own passion projects.
Like hypothetically speaking, the artist has a very refined style that is unique, can do it very fast, with large library of different studied experience via character and environments, and the biggest challenge is not enough time between professional (NDA) work vs their passion project (which could ideally build a passive income if generating enough of a following) which ultimately would push them up to the next level of the following was built.
Say the intermediate to advanced artist that either solely stuck in professional jobs bsck to back and/or living off commissions, both of which are time consuming to a point they can't build their own passive income via social media. What is the strategy?
I feel like somewhere you answered it, but at the sametime I also feel like their is a leap or hump between pro artist vs social media artist. Like the two clash and the actionable steps are too vague.
Hire an assistant to help with they paying work, so that you have time for building your own brand/business.
@@TrentKaniuga Ty for the response!
Wicked! 🙌🙌
Does anybody know any websites that I can find people to make art for ?! like game covers books etc
WHY PAINT AFTER GRADIENT MAP? WHAT IF WANT DIFFERENT ONE?!?!?!
I trying to become comic book artist want to know how to earn money from it
Do you think ai generated art is gonna make it impossible for aspiring artist to make a full time Income selling art few years down the lane?
Watch my videos about AI art.
Lmao. I got like 800$ Commissions from the DnD community in a week alone. Its profitable.
The unspoken advice: if you really need money, and don’t care about ethics or morals, make furry porn.
Also known as the place where every artist’s dignity goes to die…
First first, whoop
U forgot about
Pornographic art 😆 🤣 😂 😹
I just got paid $100 to draw huge boobs. No job is beneath me.
Repent and believe the gospel! Jesus died for our sins and rose 3 days later so we could be forgiven of our sins and be gifted with everlasting life! Put your faith in Him and follow Him! Life is short, think about this. Please make the right choice today!
Drawing,sketching,painting briefly manual art is dead, now has midjourney ai
Nope. AI will never replace the need for a SKILLED artist.
I have a weird relationship with art as I just want to draw what I want to draw. I want to work on my comic, so I do and try to sell it on the side of a full time job. Even though it doesn't sell like crazy (usually break even on an issue), it's giving me a sense of pride to see my work out in the wild and that I've started the journey with my comic idea.
On the flip side, I've worked on art commissions for other people and I find it hard to enjoy art when I'm told what I should be doing. The more I do art as a job for other people, the less I want to do it. I think for me art will always be that hobby that makes me a little bit of money on the side and I'm ok with that. I enjoy my comic making journey and I'm looking forward to continuing with it.
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