The Great Debate: Rolex vs. Independent Brands (Collection Review)

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  • @TheoandHarris
    @TheoandHarris  วันที่ผ่านมา

    Head to squarespace.com/theoharris to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code THEOHARRIS

  • @FraserJohnstone1
    @FraserJohnstone1 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

    I’m a fan, but you are at your best with another person to bounce off, you and Michael were great together, your dad or even the other chap……These videos of you alone are fine, you do have engaging opinions, but I personally enjoy you most when you are with someone else…..

    • @uncles2000
      @uncles2000 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yep

    • @mrpoopoo888
      @mrpoopoo888 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Agree

    • @lonewolfemcquade8133
      @lonewolfemcquade8133 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You're still bringing Mike up😂 Get over it already

    • @ozzy1154
      @ozzy1154 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@lonewolfemcquade8133yeah dude you’re so right, quality literally dropped 80% when he left and hasn’t even begun to recuperate but we should just get over it. Come on

    • @osobad1127
      @osobad1127 20 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Theo is the comic relief not the star

  • @alocascio5825
    @alocascio5825 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love this format! GJ Christian!

  • @rickfowler3710
    @rickfowler3710 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    loving the channel Christian. Keep up the good work. Happy Christmas mate

  • @remus2001
    @remus2001 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    FYI: Rolex admitted that their watch didn’t make it to the summit. So they continue to use climbing imagery, but they make no reference to the Hillary’s and Norgay’s expedition.

    • @Beck-Stein
      @Beck-Stein 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What literature did you read this in? Id be interested in read it as everything i read was contrary. Norgay, being the first to climb the summit, had an explorer on.

    • @outcastkatsuki
      @outcastkatsuki 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not sure about Norgay but they did do a half-hearted apology about their advertising at the time with regards to Hillary:
      “In our view, it is quite unimportant as to which person was wearing which watch at the top because, as has been said by Colonel Sir John Hunt, the whole job was a team effort.…if by a fortuitous chance Sir Edmund Hillary's watch did not reach him or if he was not wearing it in his ascent of the last few hundreds of feet, then we regret that our first advertisements in connection
      with Everest suggested the contrary, although we had every reason to suppose that he received his watch.…It would appear from Mr. Barrett's letter that Sir Edmund Hillary was in fact only wearing one watch at the summit and that a Smiths watch. We congratulate Smiths on the fact that their Smiths de Luxe ordinary wind wrist watch reached the summit with Sir Edmund Hillary.
      R. A. WINTER, Director, The Rolex Watch Co., Ltd., 1 Green Street, Mayfair, London W.1.”
      - BHI's Horological Journal from October '53 (p651)

    • @pedroaochoa
      @pedroaochoa 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Beck-SteinThe unspoken story has it that he either left it at base camp or had it in his pocket. What Hillary had on his wrist was a smiths. This has been an ongoing debate but no one has tangible evidence of either claim. Both the oyster and the smiths were used. Hans Wilsdorf was a genius marketer so he sold the shit out of the story true or not. And the legend gets better and better with age.

    • @Beck-Stein
      @Beck-Stein 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@outcastkatsuki norgay and hillary made a pack stating neither would state who made it to the top first. Several years later hillary stated that if it was shameful to be the second one up to the top that he should live it. I think he attempted the ascent first and did not make it until his second attempt after norgay was already there. Ill look for the literature.

    • @bigbodykarate6403
      @bigbodykarate6403 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Beck-Stein what do you mean what literature , this is a known fact since forever . Rolex is all marketing , they were never the first at ANYTHING . Its all BS marketing

  • @thepartrain
    @thepartrain 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Where do we submit our collections?! This is awesome.

  • @guillemcorberocarreres2498
    @guillemcorberocarreres2498 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Merry Christmas Christian!

  • @billtodd7693
    @billtodd7693 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great episode! Merry Christmas!!

  • @AndreaDoesYoga
    @AndreaDoesYoga 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    🤔 Really makes you rethink the value of Rolex vs. indie brands! ⌚

  • @PortWaterDogs4Eva
    @PortWaterDogs4Eva 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Christian, as a female watch nerd, I love your takes on a lot of your watch picks. This is such a great video.
    I like! more like this please! I love learning about independent watch brands also, not just the boring watches that I love too! Keep up the good work!

  • @dufferjuice
    @dufferjuice 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I enjoy this format!

  • @leoanthony7281
    @leoanthony7281 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I like your calm demeanor and approach to this video, you seem to go into more detail with each watch and how your forming your opinions of them, it’s a nice break from the giggle fest.

  • @kestonwright9881
    @kestonwright9881 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is the first video I have seen from you. Great honest content. I lean more to the indies but a beautiful watch is a beautiful watch no matter who makes it.

  • @pete5534
    @pete5534 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Purchase what you like!
    Go to your local shops, and try something on. If it really speaks to you, buy it.

  • @Ilikeavocados822
    @Ilikeavocados822 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    fantastic collection! just FANTASTIC

  • @Beck-Stein
    @Beck-Stein 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think independents have way better finishing but you cannot beat rolex marketing. Collectors value money retention as part of collecting.

    • @pedroaochoa
      @pedroaochoa 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well said. I tried explaining this to someone but they immediately freak. They think you’re mad. Makes you think how strong Rolex marketing and sold perception really is. Fascinating.

    • @polysyllobic
      @polysyllobic 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      If you’re worried about value retention, then you should be putting your money into stocks, not watches. Watches, cars, boats, trading cards, none of these things are investments.

    • @Beck-Stein
      @Beck-Stein 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@polysyllobic i never stated it was an investment as it is a hobby. As a collector we buy and sell all the time as tastes and desires alter. For you to state that value retention is not important is disingenuous. I highly doubt you don’t want max price when reselling YOUR watches!

    • @lonewolfemcquade8133
      @lonewolfemcquade8133 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      If Rolex sold a terrible product maybe the Rolex is just marketing excuse would have some truth to it but they don't

    • @rudimussrodeln
      @rudimussrodeln 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      tell me about the independents with better craftsmanship as rolex

  • @jasonpena2000
    @jasonpena2000 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Merry Christmas from 🗽...enjoy the snowy Christmas eve...wild!

  • @DontDoDaylight
    @DontDoDaylight 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, sir.

  • @Tnecniv12321
    @Tnecniv12321 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Some nice pieces there, but hardly the "ultimate watch collection". Clickbait.

  • @factstology
    @factstology 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    where's harris?

  • @uncles2000
    @uncles2000 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Omega 210.90.42.20.01.001
    Glashütte Original 1-36-01-03-02-05
    Grand Seiko SBGE257
    Longines L48154922
    Casio DW5600E-1V

  • @ListenToPowerViolence
    @ListenToPowerViolence 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Rolex is the ultimate independent. Big doesn't mean not independent.

    • @bigbodykarate6403
      @bigbodykarate6403 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      garbage take , rolex movements are trash, Rolex cases are trash (their metal is SOFT scratches just from the hair on your wrist ) Their Dials are Garbage too (they literally dont last long at all vintage rolex needs to be re dialed at some point , you can look for vintage Seiko and the dials are fine same with vintage German brands . its all marketing , The swiss suck .

  • @ListenToPowerViolence
    @ListenToPowerViolence 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    It's weird how people are so triggered by Rolex being the best brand by far.

    • @pedroaochoa
      @pedroaochoa 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Best brand in branding and marketing, by far. No one is even close to the same, and probably never will be. They have incredible brand dna, identity, and value retention. It is the king of the hill. But when you hold a patek, a vacheron, and AP, even a jlc next to the best Rolex model, you realize what high end watchmaking is.

    • @ListenToPowerViolence
      @ListenToPowerViolence 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pedroaochoa I don't care about movement finishing. I was a robust tool watch that will survive thwacking against door frames, drops and whatever else I throw at it. Also Rolex is more accurate than those brands.

    • @yonchrr
      @yonchrr 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Haters gonna hate. Basically flat earthers.

    • @Shawn-o4z8y
      @Shawn-o4z8y 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nothings beats rolex

    • @draveed
      @draveed 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ListenToPowerViolence Sounds like you want a G-Shock.

  • @rudimussrodeln
    @rudimussrodeln 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ironically Rolex is the only real independent brand

    • @uncles2000
      @uncles2000 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      AP and Patek called and said, hold my beer

    • @pedroaochoa
      @pedroaochoa 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Do you mean independent by operating independently form the Hans Wilsdorf foundation? Or independent by being vertically made in-house? With masters like FP Journe, Rexhep Rexhepi, MB&F, or even Weiss out of the states who make even the smallest screw on their own. What makes Rolex the only real independent? No corporate giant owns Oris, and they now make their own calibers in house. Are they independent? Patek? AP?

    • @rudimussrodeln
      @rudimussrodeln 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@pedroaochoa FP Journe is a company of shareholders with 20% of chanel owning. The others I don‘t know about, too irrelevant to be called independent for sure. Rolex is the only brand that does not have to care about short profits. Their wellbeing is secured by one of the mightiest foundations in the world. While others may have more handwork and fiddly complications, Rolex builds the most refined product by industry standard. Easily the best and most powerful watch brand in the world.

    • @rudimussrodeln
      @rudimussrodeln 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@uncles2000 Patek is strong as well, but AP is not even future proof while being operated by a family without successors. AP is way below Rolex and continues to fall, Patek is another story but still below Rolex in regards of future proofness.

    • @drdesign6886
      @drdesign6886 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah but it’s not independent. It’s owned by a foundation who also own other brands and assets. Hand Wildorf Foundation is independent. Not Rolex. And no they are now the same thing. A true independent brand is a brand who control themselves and themselves alone without any higher taskmaster than them. So yeah again - not Rolex. Not Tudor. Not most brands these days to be fair, bar a very select few usually at the highest end of the luxury market.