Mike is and always was the main songwriter, Linkin Park had 5 other members aside of Chester. They should absolutely be allowed to move on with their project. Nonetheless I still don‘t fully support Emily as the new vocalist, the Scientology thing is so weird. But saying the other members are not allowed to move on with their lifelong project is just disrespectful.
@@bouquetforeverymiserysorry, but LP = Chester. If not for Chester’s decision to not go solo when the opportunity was presented, LP would a mediocre long-forgotten nu-metal band. Mike is great business person, he can sell anything for anything, as long as he comes on top. Proven time after time.
@@scoobystifffordays because linkin park isnt anymore linkin park, the only band i could tolerate a change of singer is maybe iron maiden, but linkin park with another singer is totally ANOTHER THING
As much as I fully support that, they should also honor him, Scientology's position about mental health is basically an insult to Chester, his problems and what he advocated for
@@blacklabel130 People have such elitist views, some songs don't even have chester are using him as a chorus line, His voice is very good, but sometimes live he struggled. Emily sounds like the record every time. The problem is that nostalgia is powerful, and that mike shinoda knew the kind of backlash this would have and didn't want all of his and the bands hard work as a world presence go down the drain, otherwise he should've just remade Fort Minor into this new Linkin Park but he probably didn't want to play smaller venues.
LP is a project created by Mike Shinoda essentially so i don't see a problem on him keeping the band alive, the problem is that the scientology chick is singing songs that she can't relate to, since most of LP songs talk about abuse and depression, something that her "religion" is not very conscious about. I think she can sing the new band repertory and songs, but singing songs that Chester helped to write, and putting a stain of scientology influence on the band's legacy, is not only disrespectful but also damages any good aspect left in the band. No wonder why Rob and Brad are more distant of the band...
Her other band, Dead Sara, has their own songs talking about mental health. She being openly gay for many years should make you doubt how much she's actually involved in the church since they arent fans of homosexuality. Also Rob and Brad has nothing to do with Emily joining.
I dunno dude, I sing linkin park songs all the time, love the band and love the message but I've never had depression. Am I not allowed to like the band or sing the songs too? Chester use to really enjoy and encourage people to use his songs for their outlets. I see no reason to ostracize somebody for singing them regardless of personal opinion or mental state. If Mike likes her as a lead, I'll be happy to give her a shot too, at least wait until the new album fully drops before you decide if her sound is to your taste but I don't think it's fair to try and gatekeep a band based on the past or the messages within the songs. Creativity and music should be for all to enjoy, with how lonely people are now with technology and the state of the world, it's one of the few things we have left that bring people together.
@@Rachenviel Brad is still involved, but he asked to scale back his role to studio and behind-the-scenes music creation/production and writing. He and Mike handpicked the guy who's going on tour in his place.
It's not the same case. In 1980 Joy Division still was an underground band, remaining members were very young (I think they were around 23) and wanted to change the musical direction.
@@AliceBowie I agree. "Closer" and "Unknown Pleasures" are just slow, mopey and miserable to listen to, and I can't relate to Ian's worldview. I find "Low Life" and "Technique" much more beautiful, melodic and fun to listen to.
Cult leaders fascinate me, not because I think they're cool, but because it amazes me how a man can convince so many people that he's the messiah. I can't tell a good lie to save my life, so if I went around telling everyone I was the messiah, they'd put me away!
Its mainly because their leaders are very charismatic and silver tongued. They know how to lie to you without lying because they Believe their delusions.
Blocking the son of your singer who killed himself after you added a new singer that doesn’t even believe in mental health is just fucking nuts this whole scenario is just completely insane
He wanted to release a tell all book, not taking sides because they both have valid points, I think Jamie should have the right to release his book i he wants to, but the band also have a right for self preservation.
Emily is probably not a scientologist anymore. Emily is lesbian, and scientology is against LGBT rights apparently, and also Emily stated that once she went to the trial she was disgusted and never came back to support him.
Never forget that wife-and-husband Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher also supported Danny Matherson despite what he allegedly did to Mila behind the scenes of That ‘70s Show
After watching this video i realized why LP was so quick in announcing a World Tour and - as a Brazillian - confirming a show here. They know much of the LP fans outside the US aren't fully aware of all this context, and they KNOW Brazil especially doesn't care altogether. Ppl here are just hungry for big nostalgia shows like this in general, and couldn't care less about backstage drama. Just take a look at the show Katy Perry had in Rock in Rio. If you watch the performane you absolutely wouldn't know the album she's promoting is sinking like the Titanic. Mike is desperately trying to keep a low profile as to not disturb the ticket sales
Dude no one gives a shit about any drama, as if there is any to begin with. People just want to overreact and find any little reason to put Mike and the band down. Grow up.
@@TheTGOAC This video has so many missing holes in it. I got upset that he was so quick to support the mom and estranged son. Those two have had an agenda against LP since Chester passed. They both actively think he was m**dered. The mother is the root of Chester's depression after abandoning him as a child & letting him get SA'd by a family friend. The illegitimate son is even worse. He estranged himself from Chester several months before he passed & blames it on the band for nonsense reason. Chester's widow had to file a domestic violence restraining order on him after he threatened to harm her & his half siblings. That guy is a nutcase if you follow his IG activity. Dude is narcissistic and probably a sociopath.
mano, de brasileiro pra brasileiro, a gente sabe que não vai ser que nem o da katy perry, tem chance dessa bomba estourar, ja que a katy perry tem aquela bosta das fãs que o celebro é duvidosamente desenvolvidio, ja o LP, os fãs tem um celebro desenvolvido *alem que ca entre nos, vai começa com os putinhos dos canais de opnião, toda bomba estoura por eles, é raro ser por outra pessoa a não ser eles*
It's alarming to think that the entertainment industry is normalizing Scientology given what we've learned about the entertainment industry since Harvey. Like, isn't Diddy top news this very week?
@@eren_jaeger0493man… you guys are so easy to manipulate, of curse shes gonna say anything to not look bad, how can a person who had a religion that doesnt belive in MENTAL HEALTH sing for linkin park? A BAND THAT TALKA ABOUT ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH
@giusudopastel6595 bro you that kind of person how want to have reson for everything. Well just because you are to dumb to see that the band just want to go on and emely is one of the beat reasons. You guys just want to hate like every one in this broken humanity. I said it before she sings on emptiness machine about tht she was quit. Bro you lituarly think Mike would just let some one in how never had mental problems. Are you stupid? Didn't you think about that emely could well because of scientology HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID OR SOMETHING
@giusudopastel6595 you also didn't think about because of the person she said .. no he would never do something like this. That she also could be broken because A GOOD FRIND OF HER HOW KILED OR RAPED SONE ONE IDK. THAT SHE ALSO COULD BE FEELING BROKEN AND BETRAYED BECAUSE OF THIS FUCKING FACT
The fact that they replaced Chester (a known SA survivor) with someone who supported a known SAer, Masterson, is so unbelievably disgusting and shows zero respect for Chester’s legacy.
the fk you mean "replaced Chester"? Chester is gone, man. let him rest. they wanted to play so they got a new vocalist. obviously they wouldn't have done it if Chester was still here.
No one can replace Chester. They should've just gone the Acid Bath route and permanently break up after his death. UPDATE: I'm aware that Acid Bath have reformed, Jesus fucking Christ!
Or Led Zeppelin. They should have just gone up the Venom route if they wanted to, form another band with the members you want and name it something similar.
I would have preferred it if they just made a new band. Plus for some reason they like spamming AI stuff(the music video for Lost and their Spotify is full of really bad AI anime art), I don't actually mind armstrong's vocals though.
Yeah that's true... At this point tho it seems like they moved away from that and Mike's "WEB3 NFTs" project Warner Music gave him. I am not making that up. Also Emily's vocals are dope.
Mike is and always was the main songwriter, Linkin Park had 5 other members aside of Chester. They should absolutely be allowed to move on with their project. Nonetheless I still don‘t fully support Emily as the new vocalist, the Scientology thing is so weird. But saying the other members are not allowed to move on with their lifelong project is just disrespectful.
I think it’s more disrespectful to rename the band but keep linkin park sounding music. the whole band was linkin park. Chester too but so are the rest. Static X could move forward with their singers death, why not LP?
@@t1m3fl0ware you being serious? She just paid to renew her membership. Why don’t think she hasn’t come out and said anything about it? She absolutely supports that cult and is a full member!
Ah yes, organising two entire world tours, creating a brand new album from scratch is cashgrab? I think you are a bit lost, the only cash grabs Mike ever did were the HT and Meteora 20th anniversary albums, those were definitely cashgrabs, yet the controversy only sparks when they get a new singer that isn’t Chester, doesn’t sound exactly like Chester.
@LecAviation Fun fact: Mike never wanted to do anniversary albums. He only got the idea because of the record label. Mike went ahead and did the anniversary albums because he found cool unreleased demos and other things. I'm glad he does anniversary albums because we get to hear unreleased songs with Chester's vocals.
There are a lot of lost and desperate people out there. All the different religions and cults are vying to get to them first. It is a simple formula. Take basic concepts of morality and self-improvement, repackage them in the image of one's own ideology, and most importantly, include control measures, like isolating members from their families and the outside world. From what I have heard, Hubbard was a charismatic guy with connections, that is how he got his cult to take off.
Good riddance, uneducated "fan". If you were truly a fan, you wouldn't drop a band over some misinformed and outdated info that people spewed on the internet. She is not a cultist, but you wouldn't know this because you just blindly follow the hatred train.
Gosh do you people even do research, she was BORN into the cult, she didn’t join it, and, even if she wanted to, leaving it is incredibly hard (they try to brainwash you into staying), and if they don’t succeed and have to let you go, you had to sign NDA’s (Non disclosure agreements).
@@slickboyd “Several years ago, I was asked to support someone I considered a friend at a court appearance, and went to one early hearing as an observer," she wrote. "Soon after, I realized I shouldn't have. I always try to see the good in people, and I misjudged him. I have never spoken with him since. Unimaginable details emerged and he was later found guilty." Sounds like she does what she’s told by the cult. This is about Danny Masterson, famous Scientologist rapist.
I don't agree with "the band without Chester is over" I'm a huge LP fan, I even got the flames tattoo on my wrist that Chester had. Linkin Park is trying to make something new and fresh and that's cool because we aren't in the 2000' anymore, nobody wants to use baggy shorts and stupid hairstyles and Linkin Park making music in this modern music machine is great, I want to listen to LP, not to Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo
exactly dude. we all loved and admired Chester, but he isn't the whole band. and Emily? she didn't do PERFECT on her first run of scream vocals, but MAN. she has already learned with that new song.
Yet these last 2 singles sound like they’re from minutes to midnight, is it new? Sure, but it’s not a fresh sound, and sure bands evolve over time but dunking on what made this band what it is which is those first 2 albums, the baggy pants and stupid hairstyles isn’t the way to go, it’s disrespecting what they once were and the reason people fell in love with them in the first place
These type of fans actually led him there from the sound of it. He had a controversy before going where he insulted so called "fans" who kept telling Linkin Park to return to meteora or hybrid theory or retire.(doesn't that sound familiar?) And if you listen to cross off(a song that was supposed to lead Chester to do some more metal stuff btw. Outside of Linkin Park. He intended to go on a tour) dude just was tired and angry.
It’s funny how the fans bullied Chester for the last few bad linkin park albums that he took creative control on, which I believe led to his decision, and now all those same ppl are hating on the new singer. Meanwhile, the whole time all they want is the first two albums again and that’s all they care about, fully ignoring how the band wants to be. And no one else wants to talk about that 🤷🏼♂️
Are you dumb? You must be. How is people that hated the last LP record have anything to do with this new controversy of a singer that supports rapists, harasses their victims and is a member of scientology while Mike Shinoda keeps silent about it? I think it's a very reasonable thing for fans to be upset about and not wanting to support. And they could feel that way while not liking LP's last album, one does not invalidate the other in fact, these premises dont have anything to do with each other and your "point" (if we can even call it that) makes no sense at all. Also, "the fans bullied Chester for the last few bad linkin park albums that he took creative control on, which I believe led to his decision, and now all those same ppl are hating on the new singer" where's the evidence of that? Oh, that's right, there isn't. You're just making retarded stuff up, like your entire comment. It has ZERO logic and again ahas nothing to do to waht fans are complaining about. You should quit smoking weed, it's rotting your brain, Skippy
Lets not try to pretend that all of this happened JUST because the fans hated on OMR. Chester was already in a terrible spot mentally and he had just lost his best friend and role model. The reception of OMR was poor because the album itself was unlike anything that existed before, and asside from a few good songs....its still pretty bland. Sure fans are obsessing over Hybrid Theory and Meteora quite a lot, but that's because those albums are what put the band on the map. They were and still are some of the best music albums of their generation and have influenced much of modern day metal (especially metalcore) for better or for worse. Anything not on par with these 2 albums will look worse by comparison, even in cases where they have good songs. Chester was always in a dark place mentally, and he expressed that with every single pant, scream, baited breath that he could. In the last few months of his life he expressed it best, ''I should not be alone when im in that mental space.'' Can you guess how many people were with him in his final moments? 0! Dude got far of the deep end and ended everything just to escape. Sure fan back lash did not help one bit, but it wasn't the catalyst for everything, but rather the cherry on top. When you are someone so humble and pure like Chester was, and you've been placed on this gynormous pedastal that just can't seem to stop growing, even something trivial as fan backlash will feel like you've been betrayed by everyone or you've let everybody down. Add that to an endless spyral of fighting addiction, depression, a horrific childhood trauma that will stay with you for life, AND the fact that your best friend just died, you and many others would've prolly thrown in the living towel too. All this to say that fans aren't at fault for Chester's self deletion, but he is. He may have done it for his own reasons, perhaps it was an innevitability- perhaps the reason he separated himself from his family was because he had everything figured out but just didn't want either his wife or son to be martyrs to his corpse. Nevertheless, it was a decision he himself chose, despite knowing how much people loved him. Sometimes it truly doesn't matter how much you mean to people. If you can't mean anything to yourself, you will always feel meaningless. And that is of course assuming that Chester killed himself and wasn't done in by someone else.
@@drewblackmatter6669 Why not? He did get in controversy about insulting those people before he did what he did. Yes he was in a bad place mentally but its not like those people did not push him to it. Same as now, they wanted band to be disbanded or return to meteora and hybrid theory. And the thing is that Chester was going to do something outside of Linkin Park to that style. Cross off was a start of something that was going somewhere and we never got there.
@@jr2904 It was his fault but they were a reason why it happened then and there.(he could have done it later anyway but we will never know) The album thing wasn't as much of a problem as certain people acting towards Linkin Park that way for a very long time. Like I did not like the music they were making too so I just stopped listening to them after minutes to midnight but there were fans who kept harassing Linkin Park with that complaining and kept saying that they should disband if they are not going to make music that sounded like meteora and hybrid theory. Now the same people are complaining that Linkin Park goes on with a new singer and speak on behalf of Chester even though they were the reason for why he did what he did. Its like a bully who bullies someone to a level of deleting themselves and then that same bully speaks about what that person would have wanted.
7:25 being brainwashed and inducted into forced labor for her entire childhood makes her a victim, not an evil manipulating scientologist scumbag. Nobody is perfect, but since the entire world learned she was grew up a scientologist just as she was introduced was LP's new singer shows that she wasn't openly showing any association with them. And seeing as how she is making music with a band who very often tackled issue of mental health, we cna probably assume she has a whole of things she wants to get off her chest. Also after watching Aaron Smith-Levin's videos om the subject, he clearly states that scientologists, being literally brainwashed into vouching for each other, would never report one of their own to the authorities because they are programmed to see members of their cult as good and always truthful, and people outside of it as liars and scumbags.
OK this is all well and fine. But this does nothing to explain why when called out on her defense of Masterson, she didn't just apologize, but waited until after public opinion shifted against him to say she changed her mind and literally nothing else, or the bands abhorrent treatment of Chester's family in the aftermath of signing her. Like just straight up blocking dudes kid trying to get tickets to get some closure on the loss of his father is objectively scumbag behavior.
@@warrenward6294 except when you learn Chester's kid is insane and has at least 1 known restraining order against him and has been in court multiple times for harassment on the LP members and their families, along with thinking LP's own members assassinated Chester. after that, I'd be concerned he'd wanna show up with a gun.
I'm fine with people having differing opinions, but I can't stand the people saying Emily is a scientologist and that she doesn't believe in mental health. For one, her band Dead Sara has songs about mental health and Emily has been openly gay for a while, something the church of scientology does not allow. She has never once made any kind of statement to suggest she "doesn't believe in mental health." There is no way Mike would let someone who genuinely thought those things into the band. And as for Jamie, one of Chester's sons, he is mentally ill. I'm not trying to make fun of him or write him off, but he's been on a downward spiral for years and has shared some very alarming conspiracies about his own father's death. He's not very reliable, and even if he was of sound mind, it's not his band. I don't think it's disrespectful to continue LP. There wasn't this much of a visceral reaction when Alice in Chains or AC/DC did this. It's Mike and Brad and Joe and Dave's band just as much as it was Chester's. Chester can never be replaced, but they aren't trying to. They're just moving forward. If you don't like that, then don't listen to them. Being upset isn't going to stop them.
I didn't like her being a part of the band simply because she didnt seem to match the angsty energy of most LP songs. Everything else i didn't even know about until like a few weeks ago lol
"I was asked" -to support a friend pretty much confirms her still being a member, doesn't it. Any normal person would say a friend asked me or something.
As bad as her actions are, and as absolutely abhorrent as Scientology is, the even worse part is her voice is basic and doesn’t do any Justice to who she replaced. Like it would be easy to fire and hire someone who doesn’t support abusing children; something that shaped Linkin Park’s music in the first place.
@@miquelmarti6537 If you do any research on the topic, you'll realize that she's not nearly as linked to scientology as people have said. She hasn't been documented with involvement in over a decade and if you look, she only completed one course for the organization all the way back in 2007. Compare that to prolific scientologists like Kirstie Allie who completed 13 and then combine that with the fact that she's openly gay as well as other points such as the Dead Sara lyrics and it's clear to see that the situation isn't so black and white. If more evidence were to come out against her, I'd be open to changing my position, but burden of proof is on the accuser and so far, there's been nothing concrete to tie her to Scientology as a staunch supporter of its beliefs
Here's what would have worked better. Disband Linkin Park in honour of Chester but still maintain ownership and royalties. Announce a new band with the original members of Linkin Park. Come out with new songs that incorporate Emily's vocal range, and every now and then cover one of the original Linkin Park songs or go the hologram route like Abba.
no hologram please... that is too much I believe. I don't think there's a premade path for those types of situation, each band has to deal with it the way they see fit.
@CrossCuntryFranco I can't thank him enough for that. I would be so uncomfortable if they did it, I can't help myself believing it would be morbid in a way.
I have no problem with the new Vocals of Linkin Park. That's why they even chose a female singer, to send a clear message that she's not replacing Chester, it's just the band going on. And she fits the role perfectly. What would have Chester wanted? Would he want the band to die with him? I think not. Also, just because he chose to end it, why should WE be denied Linkin Park?
Did the new singer ever openly comment on her views on scientology ideological views? Couldn't really find any actual instances. Don't get me wrong her involvement in that SA trial is a big fucking problem that should be talked about, but most of the online backlash seemed to focus on her personal views being a disgrace to Chester's legacy.
all we know is that she is openly gay, her OG band spoke about mental health issues, and that contradicts the already not confirmed controversies. like, I mean we KNOW. we have ACTUAL PROOF. not to mention growing up into the cult and knowing leaving destroys your life, while you carry many personality traits that directly contradict 50% of the bad stuff the cult is known for? yeah. lots of this is shit.
Mike is and always was the main songwriter, Linkin Park had 5 other members aside of Chester. They should absolutely be allowed to move on with their project. Nonetheless I still don‘t fully support Emily as the new vocalist, the Scientology thing is so weird. But saying the other members are not allowed to move on with their lifelong project is just disrespectful.
Mike is and always was the main songwriter, Linkin Park had 5 other members aside of Chester. They should absolutely be allowed to move on with their project. Nonetheless I still don‘t fully support Emily as the new vocalist, the Scientology thing is so weird. But saying the other members are not allowed to move on with their lifelong project is just disrespectful.
@@bouquetforeverymisery I think it’s more disrespectful that the band is moving on in such a way rather than just stopping while they’re ahead and doing something different. Bands are generally associated with the frontman, it’s not always the case but the literal voice of a band tends to be the main identity. Should Queen have reformed with a new singer and continue to call it Queen? No. Should Black Flag have reformed with someone other than Henry Rollins and still call it Black Flag? Hell no. Whether you like it or not Queen is Freddie Mercury, Black Flag is Henry Rollins, and Linkin Park is Chester Bennington, it doesn’t matter if Shinoda is the main song writer, for better or worse that band was Bennington and it’s never gonna be the same no matter what you do in an attempt to change that, even if you pulled what Journey did and got a guy that sounded exactly like him it’s still not the same because at that point you’re just selling a lie to your fans. The only reason they’re still doing this is because it’s a cash grab, if they really cared about making music they’d do what RATM did after Zack left and start over.
@@jasonarmstrong5750 i agree, no matter how crude and bad it sounds, all members of a band are dispensable except the vocalist, there is no person in the world who can replace the voice of another. But there are thousands capable of replacing the instruments. They had to leave Linkin Park as a relic and start a new project from scratch.
I'm beyond sick of people giving mike shinoda a free pass too, he knows fine well about her involvement in scientology. Not like he would care anyway when he hangs out at diddy afterparties and is buddies with billionaire ron burkle (named on jeffrey epsteins black books).
@@postl3music It's literally only a google searsh away, there's a photo of them attending one. "Mike Shinoda and Joseph Hahn of Linkin Park during Post VMA Party Hosted by Sean "P. Diddy" Combs and Guy Oseary - Arrivals at Ice House in Miami, Florida". Mike shinoda seems to hang around with a lot of pieces of shit and that's usually a sign someone is a pierce of shit. LMFAO btw
@@SmegmaCrustt That was a fucking VMA afterparty LMFAO. Tons of musicians were there after the VMAs. And tell me this-do you honestly think Mike Shinoda of all people would attend a party where he knew (imagining that this stuff WAS happening at the party he, and also other band members were at) that children were literally getting SA'd and sex trafficked? No. He wouldn't.
@@SmegmaCrustt And also, if you want to mention the people Mike Shinoda hangs out with, you're gonna call him a piece of shit for attending a party where hundreds of others also attended (this is his only "diddy party" interaction too by the way)? Forget he hung out with tons of other talented musicians, artists, etc., no, he was at a diddy party after VMA's where he probably went to after every VMA ceremony they were nominated. What a bad guy!
@@postl3music Yes, they're all pieces of child trafficking shit. What don't you get about that? Keep huffing shitnodas farts I'm sure he'll notice you one day.
As a guy who owns all but one of the albums for linkin park, this new singer has completely ruined the band for me. I dont think she is that good of a singer and personally, she doesn't deserve to take the spot of chester with such a muddy past, especially for a band who hasnt made music in years - Just wait, they'll unveil that the song Lost was ai generated just to test if they could use that to replace him. Theres a difference if they did this 7 years ago, now i feel like they just want to cash in on the name
Linkin Park said it. the people who complain less on the internet said it. let me spell it out: SHE. DID. NOT. REPLACE. CHESTER. everyone wanted to continue as that band. people WANTED to keep going with THAT BAND. and it is THEIR band, so it is THEIR choice. Chester was amazing. he was an inspiration, and we all still miss him. but Chester is NOT THE BAND. LINKIN PARK IS THE BAND. if they want to move on, they can. that is their choice. they can continue. as for the new singer? good voice. she's already gotten better from the first release to the second, too. controversy? people pretending they know they whole fucking story, when they do not in fact know the whole fucking story. and also ignoring how she 1: withdrew from supporting Masterson when she realized what she was called in to defend once she learned what he did. 2: was born into and raised in the cult, and said people in the cult will do their best to ruin your whole life if you leave. 3: not to mention they are against gay people to say the least. learned this recently...folks, she is OPENLY GAY. the Masterson thing can be a bit questionable as there are a billion people screaming opposing things. but literally everything else is PROVEN. hell, "the emptiness machine" has lyrics that hint at the trap of the cult! people gotta stop looking at the maybes and pretending they are omniscient and all knowing beings. look at the "this is what we know" and balance that against what is in question. and please, if you take issue, feel free to reply. I'll (possibly) to the bitching and see how far the arguments moving in circles will go. PS: Chester's MOM had to get a restraining order against HIS son. that say something about the family part of drama?
People in this comments section are basically no-lifers. Half of them are not even fans of LP. The remaining are Chester fans not LP fans. These people should really get a life of their own.
I honestly think Emily Armstrong could have worked out with Linkin Park (preferably for new releases, I don't think her voice fits for songs made with Chester) if it wasn't for the scientology thing. If she did leave, she can't go public with it because scientologists are batshit insane, but if she hasn't then I have no idea why you have her singing songs about mental illness, the very thing that caused Chester to take his life, when she genuinely doesn't believe mental illness exists
she can't really OPENLY speak out against them because they are just insane. and it gets weirder when you realize the band she FIRST was in (idk if she still is) Dead Sara, sung about mental health. a lot. not to mention SHE'S GAY. and...scientology is against BOTH those things? not gonna lie, there is some facts that just chafe very weirdly with what is still not fully proven. we know she's a member because she was born into it, but after that? you can't leave because they will destroy you, and then everything SHE believes in...I personally have to side with her here. too much things fully proven that contradict allegations that aren't proven. no matter what, she is stuck in a spot that has no really good resolution.
Should've just broke the band up and started fresh The music wont be near the same as before when Chester was around, Emily has some good vocals but her voice doesnt give off "Linkin Park" vibes Similar to whats happening with The Fray reuniting, not the same without the original lead singer
I find it more suspicious that they refuse to mention it and refuse to respond to Jaime and Chester’s mother, it feels like they know that they are in the wrong
scientology seriously needs to not be so normalized in todays world because my own family is in it. my nana and my grandpa were and my nana ran away to get away from them because they put a hit on her for wanting to leave. my grandpa still believes in it all and i havent seen him since i was 8 and grew up being told to never listen to him because hes a scientologist by my mother. i didnt understand what was wrong with it until i learned it was a cult because the term "Scientology" and its people didnt have much meaning to me and it was normal for me to hear
My take is this. I would feel more comfortable supporting her if she weren't still obligated to give a BUNCH of money to Scientology. I would give her and LP a chance. But I don't want to support Scientology with my money.
Is it really even Linkin Park anymore. No offense. I know Mike was behind so much of it but Chester being gone changed things. And Chester was so against everything the "church" stand for.
I lost a ton of Respect for Mike Shinoda, he always seemed like a super genuine nice dude. But I guess just cuz you are a “Nice” person doesn’t mean you are a “Good” person.
She's not actually a Scientologist if she was born and raised and essentially forced up into it, from what I understand. And while you can be brainwashed into it from childhood, people can have inner conflict and cognitive dissonance within that framework. Between what you're told to believe and who you actually are inside, as you grow and develop a sense of self and reckon with what your feelings and values truly are in contrast with who you've been told to be and otherwise forced to hide for the sake of community and family acceptance.
When you thought Static X was the worst lead vocal replacement, and someone mange to surprise you. I wonder if the controversy grows big enough Riot games will remove the promotional worlds music video xD
Yes & no. Yes, cults have a lot less people, but they also have beliefs that don’t make sense. Like in her case, if she were to speak out against Scientology or any Scientologists whether they are good or bad she could get in trouble with the cult members. Her mother apparently has worked with David Misgaviage and she definitely works with the Sea Org, as well as their magazine. She’s pretty high up there.
Linkin Park fan since Hybrid Theory. As long she keep singing professionally, keep whatever belief to herself and not promoting it, I'm okay with that.
I'm not necessarily in on the news about the new singer, hell i can't even remember her name all too well, but i feel like the better option would have been to start under a new name. You wanna promote it by showing some info about the new band on a LinkinPark page? That's totally fine, how are people gonna find out about the new music otherwise. But keep the legacy of the old band intact. This just feels like writing over a legacy that honestly shouldn't be written over.
could've just played under a new name and literally no one would have had any complaints. plenty of bands have done it, they'd still be successful without riding the legacy as long as they're actually good
There is no doubt that Linkin Parks situation has been turned complicated. I know many of us would have prefered a better revival for the band. That said, it comes as no surprised that many fans form negative believes based on lack of evidence. The more you research, the more you learn, the more these claims crumble. Emily did attend one hearing for Danny Masterson, yet it was reported that only a few were actually allowed into the hearing itself. Meanwhile, it appears that she had the wrong belief in Masterson initially. Ultimately once she found out the true reality of the situation, she left and cut all ties with him. Interestingly , there doesn't seem to be evidence of Emily ever being involved with the harassment of the victims. Merely a spoken accusation from someone who aparently wasn't even around Emily. As for scientology, Emily has already gone against scientology as she came out as queer, and sings music addressing mental health. And it seems she's barely been involved with scientology, all things considered. I mean, even without a deep dive with any information we can collect, the hate on Emily just doesn't seem justified. As I said, it's very sad to see "fans" embrace a false narrative. True hardcore fans know what Linkin Park stands for, and if Emily was as bad as people claimed, she would not have been allowed to join. And Mike addressing the hate is VERY justified and not a ploy to cover up anything.
Yeah, I don't like her either. (This is mainly due to her personal life.) However, as a singer, I think she's good. She's not amazing, but she's not bad either. A solid 7.5/10 vocalist.
I feel like shes an alright replacement but the ideal one would have been hungry lights, although he would likely never want to fill the footsteps of another it still would have been insane sounding
finally i can agree with a video on LP 2.0. i have lost so much respect for this band for "replacing" Chester. you can't replace that guy. They should have taken the route the Beastie Boys took when MCA (RIP...you were the best of the Beasties) passed away.
I could understand overlooking your friends involvement in a cult, which sounds absurd, but sins of the father etc. I can't understand blocking the descendants or mother of your bandmate to see said reformed band after his suicide. That is monstrously cruel, why on earth would they?
Jaime is unwell yet doesn’t believe in therapy or psychiatric treatment (medication) since he wants control over his life. I can tell that he’s not well, but he’s an adult and can do what he wants. That said, should the band have blocked him? No because they are supposed to be mental health advocates and clearly they can’t tell that he’s ill.
I hate her voice too. Its so weird hearing the new music, which genuinely does have the old school lp sound, with her vocals over top. I just dont think shes very good. The scientology stuff is just another reason im disappointed
My issue with Emily is that she can't do screamed vocals. Like go and listen to the live renditions that Emily did of giving up, bleed it out or any of the hybrid theory era stuff that have screams. She doesn't even to put effort into doing it and it ruins those tracks. She's a good hard rock vocalist but for something like Linkin Park which gets heavier in some places in their discography than normal hard rock. She's not the right fit.
Linkin park talka about abuses that chester relate to and Emily “Religion” doesnt even belive in mental health illness, so she just singing MAinstream souless songs of Mike shinoda and friendss
Any action on a ship in international waters is subject to the laws of the country it's registered as from. including tax and all laws. I am absolutely not defending the loons, just marking a fact
They need to disband. Singing Chester's songs. Can't reach his range. Destroying his legacy for greed. They say it's for the fans but it's obviously not.
My theory is that they kept the Linkin Park name for the draw of the fans and chose Emily for some Scientology astroturfing to get things kicked off. That’s why they won’t speak on it. The money.
That's just sad if true. LP were among the rustiest and most frequented angsty fountains to drink from in my adolescence up there with Korn, Slipknot, your usual suspects. It's like, there's taking good advantage of your material success, and then there's the much maligned SELLING OUT. It seems like LP has officially sold out. RIP, because they died with Chester.
The only reason Mike is re-using the brand name is due to established fan base. He has many side projects, which nobody knows about, some generic 14yo rap bars, terrible..
Bruh they wont talk about it because the cult of scientology will go after them. People (especially those within the cult) get serious backlash when they speak up. Its for their own safety.
Still feel Joy Division did it the best, disbanded after and went forward with a different project with New Order
Mike is and always was the main songwriter, Linkin Park had 5 other members aside of Chester. They should absolutely be allowed to move on with their project. Nonetheless I still don‘t fully support Emily as the new vocalist, the Scientology thing is so weird. But saying the other members are not allowed to move on with their lifelong project is just disrespectful.
@@bouquetforeverymiseryMike’s writing has always been shit
No way dude, if anyone in the world ever died the best and also in the middle of a sentence it would obviously be
@@bouquetforeverymiserysorry, but LP = Chester. If not for Chester’s decision to not go solo when the opportunity was presented, LP would a mediocre long-forgotten nu-metal band. Mike is great business person, he can sell anything for anything, as long as he comes on top. Proven time after time.
JD never "disbanded", they changed their name and kept working.
Didn't Chester himself say that he wanted Linkin Park to be *Linkin Park* and not Chester Bennington and a few other nameless dudes?
whats happend with the new album ...
it sounds like girly pop / emo
@@scoobystifffordays because linkin park isnt anymore linkin park, the only band i could tolerate a change of singer is maybe iron maiden, but linkin park with another singer is totally ANOTHER THING
As much as I fully support that, they should also honor him, Scientology's position about mental health is basically an insult to Chester, his problems and what he advocated for
@@blacklabel130 People have such elitist views, some songs don't even have chester are using him as a chorus line, His voice is very good, but sometimes live he struggled. Emily sounds like the record every time.
The problem is that nostalgia is powerful, and that mike shinoda knew the kind of backlash this would have and didn't want all of his and the bands hard work as a world presence go down the drain, otherwise he should've just remade Fort Minor into this new Linkin Park but he probably didn't want to play smaller venues.
Have you´ve seen the fcking video bro?
Chester’s just got a vibe to him that I don’t think anyone can match
he was like Layne Staley, Trent Reznor and Jonathan Davis rolled into one
it just doesn't come from the same place, Chester felt those lyrics deeply and was able to convey it better than most singers I've heard
Heh,
Scott Weiland's just got a vibe to him that Chester can't match.
Never forget that mike shinoda tried to push nfts when they were a thing btw
@@youtubefan5786 lmfao, didnt know that😂🤣😅😆
Mike Shitoda
Can't really blame him, NFTs were a huge trend when they came out. Everyone from Tech Bros to Tech Enthusiasts and even youtubers were hyping them up.
@@shariqhasan6220
And anyone who put a little bit of thought into it knew they were a scam from the jump
@@shariqhasan6220 You can absolutely blame him. Selling receipts is an obvious scam.
Chester had a one of kind vocal. No hate to Emily, though. I just felt more of a passion from Chester.
Yes exactly.... Somw just don't get it though rather a long time fan or not honestly.
In my honest opinion, she's not a good singer. They could have hired any singer on the planet and they chose one that doesn't sing from the diaphragm.
@@Elennar29
Her voice is more on Halestorm than Linkin Park....Oli Sykes and Ivo Rosario would be decent
Different voices. Chester sang out of pain and Emily has more rage.
@@Elennar29 her vocals are very cookie cutter mainstream rock and their new song sounds like it was made in a lab
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@@viscountrainbows2857 Dude. Spoilers.
LP is a project created by Mike Shinoda essentially so i don't see a problem on him keeping the band alive, the problem is that the scientology chick is singing songs that she can't relate to, since most of LP songs talk about abuse and depression, something that her "religion" is not very conscious about. I think she can sing the new band repertory and songs, but singing songs that Chester helped to write, and putting a stain of scientology influence on the band's legacy, is not only disrespectful but also damages any good aspect left in the band. No wonder why Rob and Brad are more distant of the band...
Linkin Park fans will gobble anything that gets served in front of them without questioning it
To be fair though there is a lot of abuse in Scientology to channel
Her other band, Dead Sara, has their own songs talking about mental health. She being openly gay for many years should make you doubt how much she's actually involved in the church since they arent fans of homosexuality. Also Rob and Brad has nothing to do with Emily joining.
I dunno dude, I sing linkin park songs all the time, love the band and love the message but I've never had depression. Am I not allowed to like the band or sing the songs too?
Chester use to really enjoy and encourage people to use his songs for their outlets. I see no reason to ostracize somebody for singing them regardless of personal opinion or mental state.
If Mike likes her as a lead, I'll be happy to give her a shot too, at least wait until the new album fully drops before you decide if her sound is to your taste but I don't think it's fair to try and gatekeep a band based on the past or the messages within the songs.
Creativity and music should be for all to enjoy, with how lonely people are now with technology and the state of the world, it's one of the few things we have left that bring people together.
@@Rachenviel Brad is still involved, but he asked to scale back his role to studio and behind-the-scenes music creation/production and writing. He and Mike handpicked the guy who's going on tour in his place.
I think the "joy division" to "the order" is the more organic way to do the things but with other name the marketing will not hit same for them
It's not the same case. In 1980 Joy Division still was an underground band, remaining members were very young (I think they were around 23) and wanted to change the musical direction.
New Order, not The Order.
@@tmamone83 thanks lol misspelling😅
Although I was a huge Joy Division fan a long time ago, I think New Order is way better.
@@AliceBowie I agree. "Closer" and "Unknown Pleasures" are just slow, mopey and miserable to listen to, and I can't relate to Ian's worldview. I find "Low Life" and "Technique" much more beautiful, melodic and fun to listen to.
Cult leaders fascinate me, not because I think they're cool, but because it amazes me how a man can convince so many people that he's the messiah. I can't tell a good lie to save my life, so if I went around telling everyone I was the messiah, they'd put me away!
like islam
Have you seen trump supporters??
@@akshayde They are literal, medieval serfs that came to life in our modern age.
lol, the projection in these comments 😂
Its mainly because their leaders are very charismatic and silver tongued. They know how to lie to you without lying because they Believe their delusions.
Blocking the son of your singer who killed himself after you added a new singer that doesn’t even believe in mental health is just fucking nuts this whole scenario is just completely insane
He wanted to release a tell all book, not taking sides because they both have valid points, I think Jamie should have the right to release his book i he wants to, but the band also have a right for self preservation.
Tbf the son is like, genuinely off his rocker.
The son has sanity issues, that even Chester's family and friends (including his mum) blocked him and distanced themselves from. So is not that insane
Emily is probably not a scientologist anymore. Emily is lesbian, and scientology is against LGBT rights apparently, and also Emily stated that once she went to the trial she was disgusted and never came back to support him.
@gigachad2162 lol you really believe that bullshit? 😂😂😂
Never forget that wife-and-husband Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher also supported Danny Matherson despite what he allegedly did to Mila behind the scenes of That ‘70s Show
People really are fucking nuts.
After watching this video i realized why LP was so quick in announcing a World Tour and - as a Brazillian - confirming a show here. They know much of the LP fans outside the US aren't fully aware of all this context, and they KNOW Brazil especially doesn't care altogether. Ppl here are just hungry for big nostalgia shows like this in general, and couldn't care less about backstage drama. Just take a look at the show Katy Perry had in Rock in Rio. If you watch the performane you absolutely wouldn't know the album she's promoting is sinking like the Titanic. Mike is desperately trying to keep a low profile as to not disturb the ticket sales
Yeah, there have only been 2 shows in the US. The secret concert on September 5th, and the one in New York.
Dude no one gives a shit about any drama, as if there is any to begin with. People just want to overreact and find any little reason to put Mike and the band down. Grow up.
@@LeroyzkiSmithsoniandawg did you not watch the video?
@@TheTGOAC This video has so many missing holes in it. I got upset that he was so quick to support the mom and estranged son. Those two have had an agenda against LP since Chester passed. They both actively think he was m**dered. The mother is the root of Chester's depression after abandoning him as a child & letting him get SA'd by a family friend. The illegitimate son is even worse. He estranged himself from Chester several months before he passed & blames it on the band for nonsense reason. Chester's widow had to file a domestic violence restraining order on him after he threatened to harm her & his half siblings. That guy is a nutcase if you follow his IG activity. Dude is narcissistic and probably a sociopath.
mano, de brasileiro pra brasileiro, a gente sabe que não vai ser que nem o da katy perry, tem chance dessa bomba estourar, ja que a katy perry tem aquela bosta das fãs que o celebro é duvidosamente desenvolvidio, ja o LP, os fãs tem um celebro desenvolvido *alem que ca entre nos, vai começa com os putinhos dos canais de opnião, toda bomba estoura por eles, é raro ser por outra pessoa a não ser eles*
It's alarming to think that the entertainment industry is normalizing Scientology given what we've learned about the entertainment industry since Harvey. Like, isn't Diddy top news this very week?
She was born into, nobody even knows if she's still a part of it
Bro.... aber lituarly sing in her first aong taht she is not anymore a member you just want to hate because it's Is not chester...🤦♂️
@@eren_jaeger0493man… you guys are so easy to manipulate, of curse shes gonna say anything to not look bad, how can a person who had a religion that doesnt belive in MENTAL HEALTH sing for linkin park? A BAND THAT TALKA ABOUT ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH
@giusudopastel6595 bro you that kind of person how want to have reson for everything. Well just because you are to dumb to see that the band just want to go on and emely is one of the beat reasons. You guys just want to hate like every one in this broken humanity. I said it before she sings on emptiness machine about tht she was quit. Bro you lituarly think Mike would just let some one in how never had mental problems. Are you stupid? Didn't you think about that emely could well because of scientology HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID OR SOMETHING
@giusudopastel6595 you also didn't think about because of the person she said .. no he would never do something like this. That she also could be broken because A GOOD FRIND OF HER HOW KILED OR RAPED SONE ONE IDK. THAT SHE ALSO COULD BE FEELING BROKEN AND BETRAYED BECAUSE OF THIS FUCKING FACT
Chester fought so hard against what scientology represents
And now it was all for nothing.
That's what is upsetting for so many people. Chester's past and what they stand for..... It's insulting. 😢
Hey morons. Emily doesn't support that shit. Does no one bother to actually do ANY research?
Yall really Stan the dude. I loved Chester but yall are the ones tarnishing his memory by putting words in his mouth.
@DoctorHoney272 only about the SA stuff. We know how he felt about it. How he was against stuff the church is behind. Not against her as a vocalist.
The fact that they replaced Chester (a known SA survivor) with someone who supported a known SAer, Masterson, is so unbelievably disgusting and shows zero respect for Chester’s legacy.
And guess what? Chester's father investigated CSA cases too! Linkin Park is not only flipping off Chester's trauma but his father's job as well!
Wow, I didn't know about this... More need to know about it.
the fk you mean "replaced Chester"? Chester is gone, man.
let him rest.
they wanted to play so they got a new vocalist. obviously they wouldn't have done it if Chester was still here.
@@janarkolemees I mean to be fair on all terms he did get replaced... The same situation with Cranberries would be another example.
@@danteshollowedgrounds That's a nice reach but getting someone to fill in for a deceased singer is NOT replacing the deceaced.
No one can replace Chester. They should've just gone the Acid Bath route and permanently break up after his death.
UPDATE: I'm aware that Acid Bath have reformed, Jesus fucking Christ!
you beat me to it when I was talking about The Beastie Boys after MCA passed away. same level of respect. Love me some Acid Bath, too 👽
Or Led Zeppelin. They should have just gone up the Venom route if they wanted to, form another band with the members you want and name it something similar.
Or just go the way of new order and start an entirely new band
Wish Metallica would have done that too.
@@angussneefsame, then I wouldn’t have to have to hear their shitty new music
I would have preferred it if they just made a new band. Plus for some reason they like spamming AI stuff(the music video for Lost and their Spotify is full of really bad AI anime art), I don't actually mind armstrong's vocals though.
Yeah that's true... At this point tho it seems like they moved away from that and Mike's "WEB3 NFTs" project Warner Music gave him. I am not making that up.
Also Emily's vocals are dope.
Mike is and always was the main songwriter, Linkin Park had 5 other members aside of Chester. They should absolutely be allowed to move on with their project. Nonetheless I still don‘t fully support Emily as the new vocalist, the Scientology thing is so weird. But saying the other members are not allowed to move on with their lifelong project is just disrespectful.
@@bouquetforeverymisery
Stop Spamming Those Yappatologist Essay
I think it’s more disrespectful to rename the band but keep linkin park sounding music.
the whole band was linkin park. Chester too but so are the rest.
Static X could move forward with their singers death, why not LP?
I thought her singing was okay but with this Scientology background it’s difficult to support them now
Actually most lyrics of her past band was hate on Scientology, so i dont think shes part of it anymore.
Keep in mind Emily was born into Scientology and she never made that decision for herself.
ok then don't support them listen to something else....
No excuses. Not listening.
@@t1m3fl0ware you being serious? She just paid to renew her membership. Why don’t think she hasn’t come out and said anything about it? She absolutely supports that cult and is a full member!
Mike shinoda is in his soulless cashmoney arc.
There was simpler way for him to make money without making a new album and tour lmao
I think your lost here
Ah yes, organising two entire world tours, creating a brand new album from scratch is cashgrab? I think you are a bit lost, the only cash grabs Mike ever did were the HT and Meteora 20th anniversary albums, those were definitely cashgrabs, yet the controversy only sparks when they get a new singer that isn’t Chester, doesn’t sound exactly like Chester.
@LecAviation Fun fact: Mike never wanted to do anniversary albums. He only got the idea because of the record label. Mike went ahead and did the anniversary albums because he found cool unreleased demos and other things. I'm glad he does anniversary albums because we get to hear unreleased songs with Chester's vocals.
@@JoeMama_3113 i agree, i loved Papercuts, Lost and many other tracks that for some reason didnt go on the albums
I guess Mike is gonna do another side project called Fort Minor Brainwash
Insert joke NFT acronym here. Yeah, Warner Music made Mike sell NFTs.
@@xavierwalko4175 My dude I have not a clue what you’re referring to.
@@A.D.I.D.A.S-916 Google it.
Fort Diddy...🤣
100% Reason to Remember the name
@@UltraVegito-1995 Ok that's a good one. With Dave Groul btw.
the fact some guy just came up with a new religion and people decided to actually follow it is insane
There are a lot of lost and desperate people out there. All the different religions and cults are vying to get to them first. It is a simple formula. Take basic concepts of morality and self-improvement, repackage them in the image of one's own ideology, and most importantly, include control measures, like isolating members from their families and the outside world. From what I have heard, Hubbard was a charismatic guy with connections, that is how he got his cult to take off.
Yeah, there are a lot of gullible morons in this world.
Basically every religion ever…
Linkin Park killed a fan in me when they hired a cultist as their new singer.
Good riddance, uneducated "fan". If you were truly a fan, you wouldn't drop a band over some misinformed and outdated info that people spewed on the internet. She is not a cultist, but you wouldn't know this because you just blindly follow the hatred train.
Gosh do you people even do research, she was BORN into the cult, she didn’t join it, and, even if she wanted to, leaving it is incredibly hard (they try to brainwash you into staying), and if they don’t succeed and have to let you go, you had to sign NDA’s (Non disclosure agreements).
She was born into it, so she had no choice. She doesn't believe in anything they preach.
@@slickboyd “Several years ago, I was asked to support someone I considered a friend at a court appearance, and went to one early hearing as an observer," she wrote. "Soon after, I realized I shouldn't have. I always try to see the good in people, and I misjudged him. I have never spoken with him since. Unimaginable details emerged and he was later found guilty." Sounds like she does what she’s told by the cult. This is about Danny Masterson, famous Scientologist rapist.
@@spookyt8692 also there’s too much evidence that she has already left the cult, since when does Scientology allow lesbians to be in their cult
Mike Shinoda hires a scientologist and sells out Linkin Park: IT'S SO FUCKING OVER
Three Days Grace lets Adam back on board: WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK!
I don't agree with "the band without Chester is over" I'm a huge LP fan, I even got the flames tattoo on my wrist that Chester had. Linkin Park is trying to make something new and fresh and that's cool because we aren't in the 2000' anymore, nobody wants to use baggy shorts and stupid hairstyles and Linkin Park making music in this modern music machine is great, I want to listen to LP, not to Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo
exactly dude. we all loved and admired Chester, but he isn't the whole band.
and Emily? she didn't do PERFECT on her first run of scream vocals, but MAN. she has already learned with that new song.
Yet these last 2 singles sound like they’re from minutes to midnight, is it new? Sure, but it’s not a fresh sound, and sure bands evolve over time but dunking on what made this band what it is which is those first 2 albums, the baggy pants and stupid hairstyles isn’t the way to go, it’s disrespecting what they once were and the reason people fell in love with them in the first place
Scientology is wild af man.
Chester is screaming in his grave
These type of fans actually led him there from the sound of it. He had a controversy before going where he insulted so called "fans" who kept telling Linkin Park to return to meteora or hybrid theory or retire.(doesn't that sound familiar?) And if you listen to cross off(a song that was supposed to lead Chester to do some more metal stuff btw. Outside of Linkin Park. He intended to go on a tour) dude just was tired and angry.
It’s funny how the fans bullied Chester for the last few bad linkin park albums that he took creative control on, which I believe led to his decision, and now all those same ppl are hating on the new singer. Meanwhile, the whole time all they want is the first two albums again and that’s all they care about, fully ignoring how the band wants to be. And no one else wants to talk about that 🤷🏼♂️
Are you dumb? You must be. How is people that hated the last LP record have anything to do with this new controversy of a singer that supports rapists, harasses their victims and is a member of scientology while Mike Shinoda keeps silent about it? I think it's a very reasonable thing for fans to be upset about and not wanting to support. And they could feel that way while not liking LP's last album, one does not invalidate the other in fact, these premises dont have anything to do with each other and your "point" (if we can even call it that) makes no sense at all. Also, "the fans bullied Chester for the last few bad linkin park albums that he took creative control on, which I believe led to his decision, and now all those same ppl are hating on the new singer" where's the evidence of that? Oh, that's right, there isn't. You're just making retarded stuff up, like your entire comment. It has ZERO logic and again ahas nothing to do to waht fans are complaining about. You should quit smoking weed, it's rotting your brain, Skippy
Lets not try to pretend that all of this happened JUST because the fans hated on OMR. Chester was already in a terrible spot mentally and he had just lost his best friend and role model. The reception of OMR was poor because the album itself was unlike anything that existed before, and asside from a few good songs....its still pretty bland.
Sure fans are obsessing over Hybrid Theory and Meteora quite a lot, but that's because those albums are what put the band on the map. They were and still are some of the best music albums of their generation and have influenced much of modern day metal (especially metalcore) for better or for worse. Anything not on par with these 2 albums will look worse by comparison, even in cases where they have good songs.
Chester was always in a dark place mentally, and he expressed that with every single pant, scream, baited breath that he could. In the last few months of his life he expressed it best, ''I should not be alone when im in that mental space.'' Can you guess how many people were with him in his final moments? 0! Dude got far of the deep end and ended everything just to escape. Sure fan back lash did not help one bit, but it wasn't the catalyst for everything, but rather the cherry on top. When you are someone so humble and pure like Chester was, and you've been placed on this gynormous pedastal that just can't seem to stop growing, even something trivial as fan backlash will feel like you've been betrayed by everyone or you've let everybody down. Add that to an endless spyral of fighting addiction, depression, a horrific childhood trauma that will stay with you for life, AND the fact that your best friend just died, you and many others would've prolly thrown in the living towel too. All this to say that fans aren't at fault for Chester's self deletion, but he is. He may have done it for his own reasons, perhaps it was an innevitability- perhaps the reason he separated himself from his family was because he had everything figured out but just didn't want either his wife or son to be martyrs to his corpse. Nevertheless, it was a decision he himself chose, despite knowing how much people loved him. Sometimes it truly doesn't matter how much you mean to people. If you can't mean anything to yourself, you will always feel meaningless.
And that is of course assuming that Chester killed himself and wasn't done in by someone else.
@@drewblackmatter6669 Why not? He did get in controversy about insulting those people before he did what he did. Yes he was in a bad place mentally but its not like those people did not push him to it. Same as now, they wanted band to be disbanded or return to meteora and hybrid theory. And the thing is that Chester was going to do something outside of Linkin Park to that style. Cross off was a start of something that was going somewhere and we never got there.
Lol, it's the fan's fault for what he did? Just because they didn't like the album...
@@jr2904 It was his fault but they were a reason why it happened then and there.(he could have done it later anyway but we will never know) The album thing wasn't as much of a problem as certain people acting towards Linkin Park that way for a very long time. Like I did not like the music they were making too so I just stopped listening to them after minutes to midnight but there were fans who kept harassing Linkin Park with that complaining and kept saying that they should disband if they are not going to make music that sounded like meteora and hybrid theory. Now the same people are complaining that Linkin Park goes on with a new singer and speak on behalf of Chester even though they were the reason for why he did what he did. Its like a bully who bullies someone to a level of deleting themselves and then that same bully speaks about what that person would have wanted.
7:25 being brainwashed and inducted into forced labor for her entire childhood makes her a victim, not an evil manipulating scientologist scumbag. Nobody is perfect, but since the entire world learned she was grew up a scientologist just as she was introduced was LP's new singer shows that she wasn't openly showing any association with them. And seeing as how she is making music with a band who very often tackled issue of mental health, we cna probably assume she has a whole of things she wants to get off her chest.
Also after watching Aaron Smith-Levin's videos om the subject, he clearly states that scientologists, being literally brainwashed into vouching for each other, would never report one of their own to the authorities because they are programmed to see members of their cult as good and always truthful, and people outside of it as liars and scumbags.
OK this is all well and fine. But this does nothing to explain why when called out on her defense of Masterson, she didn't just apologize, but waited until after public opinion shifted against him to say she changed her mind and literally nothing else, or the bands abhorrent treatment of Chester's family in the aftermath of signing her. Like just straight up blocking dudes kid trying to get tickets to get some closure on the loss of his father is objectively scumbag behavior.
@@warrenward6294 except when you learn Chester's kid is insane and has at least 1 known restraining order against him and has been in court multiple times for harassment on the LP members and their families, along with thinking LP's own members assassinated Chester.
after that, I'd be concerned he'd wanna show up with a gun.
@@warrenward6294 that was a PR apology. It was removed hours later. Not genuine
I'm fine with people having differing opinions, but I can't stand the people saying Emily is a scientologist and that she doesn't believe in mental health. For one, her band Dead Sara has songs about mental health and Emily has been openly gay for a while, something the church of scientology does not allow. She has never once made any kind of statement to suggest she "doesn't believe in mental health." There is no way Mike would let someone who genuinely thought those things into the band. And as for Jamie, one of Chester's sons, he is mentally ill. I'm not trying to make fun of him or write him off, but he's been on a downward spiral for years and has shared some very alarming conspiracies about his own father's death. He's not very reliable, and even if he was of sound mind, it's not his band. I don't think it's disrespectful to continue LP. There wasn't this much of a visceral reaction when Alice in Chains or AC/DC did this. It's Mike and Brad and Joe and Dave's band just as much as it was Chester's. Chester can never be replaced, but they aren't trying to. They're just moving forward. If you don't like that, then don't listen to them. Being upset isn't going to stop them.
I didn't like her being a part of the band simply because she didnt seem to match the angsty energy of most LP songs. Everything else i didn't even know about until like a few weeks ago lol
The fans were there for Chester, who is the soul of Linkin Park, not for her.
Here before the video gets taken down and Coolea gets nabbed by the cult.
"I was asked" -to support a friend pretty much confirms her still being a member, doesn't it.
Any normal person would say a friend asked me or something.
As bad as her actions are, and as absolutely abhorrent as Scientology is, the even worse part is her voice is basic and doesn’t do any Justice to who she replaced. Like it would be easy to fire and hire someone who doesn’t support abusing children; something that shaped Linkin Park’s music in the first place.
to me the worst part is that I like her voice. Scientology is abhorrent. I'm shoked by how closely related she is.
@@miquelmarti6537 If you do any research on the topic, you'll realize that she's not nearly as linked to scientology as people have said. She hasn't been documented with involvement in over a decade and if you look, she only completed one course for the organization all the way back in 2007. Compare that to prolific scientologists like Kirstie Allie who completed 13 and then combine that with the fact that she's openly gay as well as other points such as the Dead Sara lyrics and it's clear to see that the situation isn't so black and white. If more evidence were to come out against her, I'd be open to changing my position, but burden of proof is on the accuser and so far, there's been nothing concrete to tie her to Scientology as a staunch supporter of its beliefs
Here's what would have worked better.
Disband Linkin Park in honour of Chester but still maintain ownership and royalties.
Announce a new band with the original members of Linkin Park.
Come out with new songs that incorporate Emily's vocal range, and every now and then cover one of the original Linkin Park songs or go the hologram route like Abba.
no hologram please... that is too much I believe. I don't think there's a premade path for those types of situation, each band has to deal with it the way they see fit.
Mike is/was _against_ the hologram route.
@CrossCuntryFranco I can't thank him enough for that. I would be so uncomfortable if they did it, I can't help myself believing it would be morbid in a way.
I have no problem with the new Vocals of Linkin Park.
That's why they even chose a female singer, to send a clear message that she's not replacing Chester, it's just the band going on. And she fits the role perfectly.
What would have Chester wanted? Would he want the band to die with him?
I think not.
Also, just because he chose to end it, why should WE be denied Linkin Park?
you didnt even watch the entire video i can tell
It’s okay, scientology is a massive dealbreaker for me too
Did the new singer ever openly comment on her views on scientology ideological views?
Couldn't really find any actual instances.
Don't get me wrong her involvement in that SA trial is a big fucking problem that should be talked about, but most of the online backlash seemed to focus on her personal views being a disgrace to Chester's legacy.
She talked about the Danny trial and said she distanced from him since after she found out he was guilty
all we know is that she is openly gay, her OG band spoke about mental health issues, and that contradicts the already not confirmed controversies.
like, I mean we KNOW. we have ACTUAL PROOF.
not to mention growing up into the cult and knowing leaving destroys your life, while you carry many personality traits that directly contradict 50% of the bad stuff the cult is known for? yeah. lots of this is shit.
Instead of shamelessly cashing out, Mike could have just revived Fort Minor and everybody would love it...
I mean, he made two solo albums after LP went dead.
One of the few cases where NO ONE can replace the OG. A one off show sure. But to actually continue? Nah fam
Same thing happened with Sublime... Makes me wonder if Rome has a history with Scientology 🤔
@@d4ngerd4n isn't the son of the OG in the band now?
💯💯💯
@@d4ngerd4nsublimes in a good spot with bradley nowells kid jakob singing now they sound real close to how they did in the 90s
Mike is and always was the main songwriter, Linkin Park had 5 other members aside of Chester. They should absolutely be allowed to move on with their project. Nonetheless I still don‘t fully support Emily as the new vocalist, the Scientology thing is so weird. But saying the other members are not allowed to move on with their lifelong project is just disrespectful.
Personally I think they should’ve gone the audioslave route, get an established singer and change the name
And everybody loves Audioslave.
Nah, old name will give em money
Mike is and always was the main songwriter, Linkin Park had 5 other members aside of Chester. They should absolutely be allowed to move on with their project. Nonetheless I still don‘t fully support Emily as the new vocalist, the Scientology thing is so weird. But saying the other members are not allowed to move on with their lifelong project is just disrespectful.
@@bouquetforeverymisery I think it’s more disrespectful that the band is moving on in such a way rather than just stopping while they’re ahead and doing something different. Bands are generally associated with the frontman, it’s not always the case but the literal voice of a band tends to be the main identity. Should Queen have reformed with a new singer and continue to call it Queen? No. Should Black Flag have reformed with someone other than Henry Rollins and still call it Black Flag? Hell no. Whether you like it or not Queen is Freddie Mercury, Black Flag is Henry Rollins, and Linkin Park is Chester Bennington, it doesn’t matter if Shinoda is the main song writer, for better or worse that band was Bennington and it’s never gonna be the same no matter what you do in an attempt to change that, even if you pulled what Journey did and got a guy that sounded exactly like him it’s still not the same because at that point you’re just selling a lie to your fans. The only reason they’re still doing this is because it’s a cash grab, if they really cared about making music they’d do what RATM did after Zack left and start over.
@@jasonarmstrong5750 i agree, no matter how crude and bad it sounds, all members of a band are dispensable except the vocalist, there is no person in the world who can replace the voice of another. But there are thousands capable of replacing the instruments. They had to leave Linkin Park as a relic and start a new project from scratch.
We don't get to call Scientology a cult on one hand while simultaneously putting full responsibility for the actions of the cult on the victims.
Xenu park.
@@sortyourselfoutyoumess.8049 I’ve been calling them “The L Ron Hubbard Experience”
Yeah the silence on the matter speaks volumes, pretty disgusting.
The church is known to be quite vile against people who questions them, so it's not weird that she doesn't talk about it.
I'm beyond sick of people giving mike shinoda a free pass too, he knows fine well about her involvement in scientology. Not like he would care anyway when he hangs out at diddy afterparties and is buddies with billionaire ron burkle (named on jeffrey epsteins black books).
Where in tf did you get the info "Mike Shinoda hangs out at Diddy parties" because they are feeding you misinformation LMFAO
@@postl3music It's literally only a google searsh away, there's a photo of them attending one. "Mike Shinoda and Joseph Hahn of Linkin Park during Post VMA Party Hosted by Sean "P. Diddy" Combs and Guy Oseary - Arrivals at Ice House in Miami, Florida".
Mike shinoda seems to hang around with a lot of pieces of shit and that's usually a sign someone is a pierce of shit.
LMFAO btw
@@SmegmaCrustt That was a fucking VMA afterparty LMFAO. Tons of musicians were there after the VMAs. And tell me this-do you honestly think Mike Shinoda of all people would attend a party where he knew (imagining that this stuff WAS happening at the party he, and also other band members were at) that children were literally getting SA'd and sex trafficked? No. He wouldn't.
@@SmegmaCrustt And also, if you want to mention the people Mike Shinoda hangs out with, you're gonna call him a piece of shit for attending a party where hundreds of others also attended (this is his only "diddy party" interaction too by the way)?
Forget he hung out with tons of other talented musicians, artists, etc., no, he was at a diddy party after VMA's where he probably went to after every VMA ceremony they were nominated. What a bad guy!
@@postl3music Yes, they're all pieces of child trafficking shit. What don't you get about that? Keep huffing shitnodas farts I'm sure he'll notice you one day.
Remember when scientology was the worst thing ever? Happier times.
Still is
11:22 dam always had a feeling mike shinoda was a tool
I'd be really curious to hear Rob Bourdon's thoughts on this whole thing given he isn't part of LP anymore.
I’m not listening to anyone supporting Scientogy, this whole situation is disturbing.
@@datguy9408 facts
As a guy who owns all but one of the albums for linkin park, this new singer has completely ruined the band for me. I dont think she is that good of a singer and personally, she doesn't deserve to take the spot of chester with such a muddy past, especially for a band who hasnt made music in years -
Just wait, they'll unveil that the song Lost was ai generated just to test if they could use that to replace him.
Theres a difference if they did this 7 years ago, now i feel like they just want to cash in on the name
Linkin Park said it. the people who complain less on the internet said it.
let me spell it out: SHE. DID. NOT. REPLACE. CHESTER.
everyone wanted to continue as that band. people WANTED to keep going with THAT BAND. and it is THEIR band, so it is THEIR choice. Chester was amazing. he was an inspiration, and we all still miss him. but Chester is NOT THE BAND. LINKIN PARK IS THE BAND.
if they want to move on, they can. that is their choice. they can continue.
as for the new singer? good voice. she's already gotten better from the first release to the second, too. controversy? people pretending they know they whole fucking story, when they do not in fact know the whole fucking story. and also ignoring how she 1: withdrew from supporting Masterson when she realized what she was called in to defend once she learned what he did. 2: was born into and raised in the cult, and said people in the cult will do their best to ruin your whole life if you leave. 3: not to mention they are against gay people to say the least. learned this recently...folks, she is OPENLY GAY.
the Masterson thing can be a bit questionable as there are a billion people screaming opposing things. but literally everything else is PROVEN. hell, "the emptiness machine" has lyrics that hint at the trap of the cult!
people gotta stop looking at the maybes and pretending they are omniscient and all knowing beings. look at the "this is what we know" and balance that against what is in question. and please, if you take issue, feel free to reply. I'll (possibly) to the bitching and see how far the arguments moving in circles will go.
PS: Chester's MOM had to get a restraining order against HIS son. that say something about the family part of drama?
People in this comments section are basically no-lifers. Half of them are not even fans of LP. The remaining are Chester fans not LP fans. These people should really get a life of their own.
I honestly think Emily Armstrong could have worked out with Linkin Park (preferably for new releases, I don't think her voice fits for songs made with Chester) if it wasn't for the scientology thing. If she did leave, she can't go public with it because scientologists are batshit insane, but if she hasn't then I have no idea why you have her singing songs about mental illness, the very thing that caused Chester to take his life, when she genuinely doesn't believe mental illness exists
She doesn’t want to be labelled an SP and cut off from her family. Cowardly maybe but that’s the honest reason.
she can't really OPENLY speak out against them because they are just insane. and it gets weirder when you realize the band she FIRST was in (idk if she still is) Dead Sara, sung about mental health. a lot. not to mention SHE'S GAY. and...scientology is against BOTH those things?
not gonna lie, there is some facts that just chafe very weirdly with what is still not fully proven. we know she's a member because she was born into it, but after that? you can't leave because they will destroy you, and then everything SHE believes in...I personally have to side with her here. too much things fully proven that contradict allegations that aren't proven.
no matter what, she is stuck in a spot that has no really good resolution.
The Emptiness machine ironically fits this situation like how most people dawn a glove.
2:51 wait she knew Cedric when he was in his Scientology years??
I think it's only that one photo, but there could be a deeper relationship that we don't know about
Should've just broke the band up and started fresh
The music wont be near the same as before when Chester was around, Emily has some good vocals but her voice doesnt give off "Linkin Park" vibes
Similar to whats happening with The Fray reuniting, not the same without the original lead singer
A lot of “allegedly” in this video..
tho u cant deny this is a cashfarm u dont just hire a new artist bcuz u wanna
You have to say allegedly for legal reasons
i drink everytime he say 'allegedly'
I find it more suspicious that they refuse to mention it and refuse to respond to Jaime and Chester’s mother, it feels like they know that they are in the wrong
scientology seriously needs to not be so normalized in todays world because my own family is in it. my nana and my grandpa were and my nana ran away to get away from them because they put a hit on her for wanting to leave. my grandpa still believes in it all and i havent seen him since i was 8 and grew up being told to never listen to him because hes a scientologist by my mother. i didnt understand what was wrong with it until i learned it was a cult because the term "Scientology" and its people didnt have much meaning to me and it was normal for me to hear
My take is this. I would feel more comfortable supporting her if she weren't still obligated to give a BUNCH of money to Scientology. I would give her and LP a chance. But I don't want to support Scientology with my money.
Where’s the pro Emily bots at 😂
Oh, the ones that call everyone who doesn’t like her haters.
Aaron at growing up in Scientology used his connections and did a lot of digging to find that Emily IS an active member.
she was caught hanging with danny masterson's friends too
30 seconds ago is wild
Is it really even Linkin Park anymore. No offense. I know Mike was behind so much of it but Chester being gone changed things. And Chester was so against everything the "church" stand for.
Facts
I lost a ton of Respect for Mike Shinoda, he always seemed like a super genuine nice dude. But I guess just cuz you are a “Nice” person doesn’t mean you are a “Good” person.
She's not actually a Scientologist if she was born and raised and essentially forced up into it, from what I understand. And while you can be brainwashed into it from childhood, people can have inner conflict and cognitive dissonance within that framework. Between what you're told to believe and who you actually are inside, as you grow and develop a sense of self and reckon with what your feelings and values truly are in contrast with who you've been told to be and otherwise forced to hide for the sake of community and family acceptance.
7:47 They straight up look like minions. Is Minions actually a brilliant commentary on Scientology?
When you thought Static X was the worst lead vocal replacement, and someone mange to surprise you. I wonder if the controversy grows big enough Riot games will remove the promotional worlds music video xD
the way you say Hubbard is really funny
Broke: HUH-bird 😴
Woke: Huh-BARD 🎸
Honestly they should've let this happen you can only catch lighting in a bottle once in one century
Kind of glad i've kept up with nothing they've done since Meteora
@@PineappleStickers same, everything after was complete bs
That's not a flex homie. 99% of their best work comes after Meteora
For egzample: "Given up" (Minutes to Midnight)
I would rather they let the band die, they are beating a dead horse....
Imagine Death concert without Chuck lmao wait a second…
LP doesn't owe Chester's son and mother anything. It's Shinoda's band. He can do whatever he wants with it
Nah Shinoda's rap is horrible, LP's success is entirely to Chester's credit
It's a joke that they're continuing.
the only difference between mythology, a cult, and a religion is how many people are involved in it.
Yes & no. Yes, cults have a lot less people, but they also have beliefs that don’t make sense. Like in her case, if she were to speak out against Scientology or any Scientologists whether they are good or bad she could get in trouble with the cult members. Her mother apparently has worked with David Misgaviage and she definitely works with the Sea Org, as well as their magazine. She’s pretty high up there.
Linkin Park fan since Hybrid Theory. As long she keep singing professionally, keep whatever belief to herself and not promoting it, I'm okay with that.
finally someone with an actually working brain, every piece of media on these days is more about the people who make it instead of the thing itself…
Soooo many better options, hell I'd rather have a cover version of him. Someone who sounds close enough and can pay respect at least.
I'm not necessarily in on the news about the new singer, hell i can't even remember her name all too well, but i feel like the better option would have been to start under a new name.
You wanna promote it by showing some info about the new band on a LinkinPark page? That's totally fine, how are people gonna find out about the new music otherwise. But keep the legacy of the old band intact.
This just feels like writing over a legacy that honestly shouldn't be written over.
Seems like a given that Shinoda's got an SA accusation he's run to the Scientologists to help cover up.
who do we want? Xenu!
when do we want him? 10 trillion years!
Turn that poop into wine
when are they doing the song about Xenu
could've just played under a new name and literally no one would have had any complaints.
plenty of bands have done it, they'd still be successful without riding the legacy as long as they're actually good
I do like the song Emptiness Machine, in fact I might use it against Emily if need be ;3
Did they reqlly think there was gonna be no controversy over this?
There is no doubt that Linkin Parks situation has been turned complicated. I know many of us would have prefered a better revival for the band. That said, it comes as no surprised that many fans form negative believes based on lack of evidence. The more you research, the more you learn, the more these claims crumble. Emily did attend one hearing for Danny Masterson, yet it was reported that only a few were actually allowed into the hearing itself. Meanwhile, it appears that she had the wrong belief in Masterson initially. Ultimately once she found out the true reality of the situation, she left and cut all ties with him. Interestingly , there doesn't seem to be evidence of Emily ever being involved with the harassment of the victims. Merely a spoken accusation from someone who aparently wasn't even around Emily. As for scientology, Emily has already gone against scientology as she came out as queer, and sings music addressing mental health. And it seems she's barely been involved with scientology, all things considered. I mean, even without a deep dive with any information we can collect, the hate on Emily just doesn't seem justified. As I said, it's very sad to see "fans" embrace a false narrative. True hardcore fans know what Linkin Park stands for, and if Emily was as bad as people claimed, she would not have been allowed to join. And Mike addressing the hate is VERY justified and not a ploy to cover up anything.
Bro why it so hard to belive in this bullshit?
I don’t like her at all, there’s something about her, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, I don't like her either. (This is mainly due to her personal life.) However, as a singer, I think she's good. She's not amazing, but she's not bad either. A solid 7.5/10 vocalist.
I feel like shes an alright replacement but the ideal one would have been hungry lights, although he would likely never want to fill the footsteps of another it still would have been insane sounding
Justin and Chester sound preeeeetty similar to each other. There would be a LOT more raised eyebrows in terms of the "replacing Chester" thing.
finally i can agree with a video on LP 2.0. i have lost so much respect for this band for "replacing" Chester. you can't replace that guy. They should have taken the route the Beastie Boys took when MCA (RIP...you were the best of the Beasties) passed away.
I could understand overlooking your friends involvement in a cult, which sounds absurd, but sins of the father etc. I can't understand blocking the descendants or mother of your bandmate to see said reformed band after his suicide. That is monstrously cruel, why on earth would they?
Jaime is unwell yet doesn’t believe in therapy or psychiatric treatment (medication) since he wants control over his life. I can tell that he’s not well, but he’s an adult and can do what he wants. That said, should the band have blocked him? No because they are supposed to be mental health advocates and clearly they can’t tell that he’s ill.
I hate her voice too. Its so weird hearing the new music, which genuinely does have the old school lp sound, with her vocals over top. I just dont think shes very good. The scientology stuff is just another reason im disappointed
As someone who never cared about Linkin Park. I still don't care. But this is a fun tangeant I didn't expect from getting a new singer.
My issue with Emily is that she can't do screamed vocals. Like go and listen to the live renditions that Emily did of giving up, bleed it out or any of the hybrid theory era stuff that have screams. She doesn't even to put effort into doing it and it ruins those tracks. She's a good hard rock vocalist but for something like Linkin Park which gets heavier in some places in their discography than normal hard rock. She's not the right fit.
Linkin park talka about abuses that chester relate to and Emily “Religion” doesnt even belive in mental health illness, so she just singing MAinstream souless songs of Mike shinoda and friendss
See, I'm just into the band for the music. She is a badass vocalist, and meshes well with the style of the band. Nuff for me, I'm sold.
Any action on a ship in international waters is subject to the laws of the country it's registered as from. including tax and all laws. I am absolutely not defending the loons, just marking a fact
Her screams radiate anger not pain and compassion like chester
Nah it’s just screaming
They need to disband. Singing Chester's songs. Can't reach his range. Destroying his legacy for greed. They say it's for the fans but it's obviously not.
Mike Shinoda shoulda swapped places with Chester in the sky.
most retarded comment ever.
Just not the same without Chester hanging around.
"hanging around"... very poor choice of words
I see what you did there
"Hanging around". Oh, boy.
unpopular opinion linkin park is overated
My theory is that they kept the Linkin Park name for the draw of the fans and chose Emily for some Scientology astroturfing to get things kicked off. That’s why they won’t speak on it. The money.
That's just sad if true. LP were among the rustiest and most frequented angsty fountains to drink from in my adolescence up there with Korn, Slipknot, your usual suspects.
It's like, there's taking good advantage of your material success, and then there's the much maligned SELLING OUT. It seems like LP has officially sold out. RIP, because they died with Chester.
The only reason Mike is re-using the brand name is due to established fan base. He has many side projects, which nobody knows about, some generic 14yo rap bars, terrible..
@@viscountrainbows2857 If selling out is a problem then Chester is already guilty of it. Does the Transformers ring any bells?
Surely they’re not drawing what they were with Chester still alive. Is the money even that good anymore?
Bruh they wont talk about it because the cult of scientology will go after them. People (especially those within the cult) get serious backlash when they speak up. Its for their own safety.