32:50 That was one crazy effects chain: Mikage placed INC ACC buff on Mezomel which triggered Tormin's passive freeze on her which triggered Armnaz's deterrence mastery counter attack which triggered Armanz's A1 cooldown increase which triggered Armanz's passive turn meter fill which triggered Tormin's passive freeze on him which triggered Armanz's polymorph blessing on Tormin 😂
Yay glad hes better than your initial impression of the buff. I suggested you change the blessing from poly on your review on him looks like a solid build now. If you can just start getting kills he just seems to get better the more he ramps up.
Awesome video. I think Frolni clearly hits more strongly than he did. However, he's still not relevant at the top level of arena -- he just doesn't hit hard enough and his damage is in the first form (and therefore susceptible to lockdown). I also think that you have a way better account than gold 4 @ 4100 points, and wins are easy there with the core team you were running. Criticisms aside, super appreciate the video.
Frolni hits like a NUKE after the patch. Trully a fearsome foe you can't take for granted anymore Patch 9.2 has really transformed the 3 mythicals and turned them into the champions they were meant to be. Very happy with Mezomel's buff ❤
The HP to Crit Dmg conversion is such a pointless part of his kit. It becomes a non-factor as they've obviously factored that in when deciding what his damage output should be. They may has well have not included that passive and increased his multipliers.
You might be wrong about the 200,000HP thing nub. What I believe the passive is doing is adding 20% of his base HP each kill. So what ever 20% of 22k is meaning he gains around 15k-20k HP after 5 kills. I could be wrong but plarium have surprised me before
@@NubRaids I definitely hope thats true! He hits crazy strong on the top end and since watching your strat to open with A2 Ive been enjoying him more and more.
All i need to is go from 0 stars to 6 star awakened, add 35k hp, 650def, and 30 speed and pair him with another mythic and 2 void legos and my Frolni might be viable lololol. Or I can just use my better tanky lego nukers. Bravo on finding a use case. Essentially "an adequate situational option" is not what we want with our only mythic. I'd pick Narses every time over Frolni
After my testing I have to say the damage buff on the ramp up after each kill is where the increase truly lies. Like yea the A2 is quite strong but the boosted damage in between 1-5 kills has doubled. Wether the base skill damage has been increased or not the results lie within the damage ramp up. Basically his damage ceiling has been doubled at the 5th kill spot and beyond
Fairly sure Taras max hp gets destroyed if you kill him. He can recover it himself but ideally needs Maritchka to recover his max hp to get him going again.
@@fredericfrese2853 yeah i've been using her and she kills almost anyone instantly unless they're bad affinity, annoying if they've got armanz but otherwise super scary
i only booked her alternate form because i used that one more often than her base form but that was pre-buff... now i feel i am more and more leaning to keep her in base form and profit from the block revive. that wasnt consistently possible before her buff though. almost everytime i tried to kill a stone skin harima with the A2 she would just barely survive it with a smidge of HP... now it certainly feels like that isnt a problem anymore... anyway mezo is a great champ
if they changed his passive not from the number of kills but from the number of moves like Harima or Odin. He is still bad especially on newbie accounts. The second form needs a taunt
Watched and wasn’t that impressed by Frolni. Your teams looked effective but found myself picturing Narses or all the other nukers you mentioned in his spot and didn’t see him out performing. Not bad but not that compelling either.
I am FTP, level 89, and I have 3950 points, really close to 4k.. its not that hard (not even some insane luck - my go to is Armanz, Arbiter, Rathalos, Monkey, Eostrid, Fenax and Tormin (some combination of that), sometimes Mithrala and my lucky pull Sulfuryion.
@@NubRaids I am sure you have everything under control lol and always your health comes first as Crohn's disease must be taken care of... But you made me laugh so much as if you got a call from yst not dr
The mod Cori and all her friends are giving away to free champs between themselves, I already contact my international lawyer to deal with plarium. But its awful, people work so hard and cori and her mods just give away everything for free. I will also be going after Hh HELL HADES WAS THE MAIN DUDE DOING THE DIRTY
how the fuck are you getting 300% crit damage while also keeping his HP high? he has mediocre HP base stats, makes him frustrating to build properly... i even went for HP% gauntlets in one build because i couldnt get above 100k HP otherwise and that resulted in very poor crit damage stats at only 204%...and i thought that would be the standard for him because he gets that extra crit damage from his HP pool, which gets it out of the gutter again. but seeing your frolni having more than 300%.... PLUS the 100% from the passive, man... that feels like my frolni isnt really up to par with yours. so idk if i should even try to use him in live arena... apparently he could have much higher damage stats than what i can provide, somehow... and you even have him at 270 speed too, thats insane. my mezomel is at 259 and i thought that was fast already... maybe its just that i lack decent HP nuker gear because i maybe subconciously prioritise atk nuker equipment when i'm getting new gear... idk, those stats you have on him seemed to be impossible to reach before i watched this video...
Did you watch the video. He's got a six star blessing which adds a ridiculous amount of stats to mythicals. Extra 45% crit damage extra 10K life extra 15 speed. Then he's been end game doing Hydra and dark fae for 4 years.
@@NubRaids oke, i didnt take the blessing into account, simply forgot about it ^^ i HAVE a 5star blessing on my mezomel, so i usually know how much that boosts a mythicals stats but i just was shocked by the 300% crit damage i guess and didnt think it through.... i mean i got endgame gear too, my mezo is at 7650 atk and 345% crit damage at 259 speed.... i just seem to have problems finding similarly decent builds for HP nukers... maybe i need to change what i keep and not keep a bit...
th-cam.com/video/WnpqfsofuaI/w-d-xo.html clip of what Frolni does vs Siegfrund!
32:50 That was one crazy effects chain: Mikage placed INC ACC buff on Mezomel which triggered Tormin's passive freeze on her which triggered Armnaz's deterrence mastery counter attack which triggered Armanz's A1 cooldown increase which triggered Armanz's passive turn meter fill which triggered Tormin's passive freeze on him which triggered Armanz's polymorph blessing on Tormin 😂
The Wukong did so much damage that Taras' passive reduced his max hp to basically 0. Life harvest was a cherry on top when he got revived.
Felt good until the marichka fixed it 😅
50 min nubs video? the night just got a lot better
Unbooked Unused Unloved is what I'm naming my band now
The You's
Yay glad hes better than your initial impression of the buff. I suggested you change the blessing from poly on your review on him looks like a solid build now. If you can just start getting kills he just seems to get better the more he ramps up.
Kruysen loves FRONI
Sadly Frolni passive only procs when he gets the kill, not necessarily when anyone dies.
Awesome video. I think Frolni clearly hits more strongly than he did. However, he's still not relevant at the top level of arena -- he just doesn't hit hard enough and his damage is in the first form (and therefore susceptible to lockdown). I also think that you have a way better account than gold 4 @ 4100 points, and wins are easy there with the core team you were running. Criticisms aside, super appreciate the video.
If they flipped his forms he'd be more viable. However he does smack now.
What you thnìink about put Aegimon in pinpoint set?
Frolni hits like a NUKE after the patch. Trully a fearsome foe you can't take for granted anymore
Patch 9.2 has really transformed the 3 mythicals and turned them into the champions they were meant to be. Very happy with Mezomel's buff ❤
We need to see him in hydra as well.
The HP to Crit Dmg conversion is such a pointless part of his kit. It becomes a non-factor as they've obviously factored that in when deciding what his damage output should be. They may has well have not included that passive and increased his multipliers.
You might be wrong about the 200,000HP thing nub. What I believe the passive is doing is adding 20% of his base HP each kill. So what ever 20% of 22k is meaning he gains around 15k-20k HP after 5 kills. I could be wrong but plarium have surprised me before
Nah it's gotta be total scaling, you can see him smacking way harder as it stacks
@@NubRaids I definitely hope thats true! He hits crazy strong on the top end and since watching your strat to open with A2 Ive been enjoying him more and more.
All i need to is go from 0 stars to 6 star awakened, add 35k hp, 650def, and 30 speed and pair him with another mythic and 2 void legos and my Frolni might be viable lololol. Or I can just use my better tanky lego nukers. Bravo on finding a use case. Essentially "an adequate situational option" is not what we want with our only mythic. I'd pick Narses every time over Frolni
After my testing I have to say the damage buff on the ramp up after each kill is where the increase truly lies. Like yea the A2 is quite strong but the boosted damage in between 1-5 kills has doubled. Wether the base skill damage has been increased or not the results lie within the damage ramp up. Basically his damage ceiling has been doubled at the 5th kill spot and beyond
Afaik nothing changed with the passive. But the A2 got a 40%+ multiplier boost so it's just more noticeable now
I would love to see him with Togrin the Conjoined for the HP boosts passive.
Went against your defense with the frolni and triple Dyana. I got absolutely wrecked.
The best use of frolni is against teams with wukong. He keeps getting that passive every time he takes out that annoying wukong
u think that this passive isnt a thing for the hydra? or doesnt it stack there
Hydra heads technically don't die, so none of the stacking on kill things work
Ignoring a call from the Dr for a video. That’s commitment. 😂
Dang it, now the secret is out 😜
So Frolni is my first mythical. Am I sad or happy? I’m honestly asking because I don’t know. I need weregren and tatsu and then I can get mikage.
very cool build, love to see ward of the fallen
Fairly sure Taras max hp gets destroyed if you kill him. He can recover it himself but ideally needs Maritchka to recover his max hp to get him going again.
Didn't see the vid till the end yet... i dumped my myth tomes into mezomel for the Training... will i regret that?
Watch Kruysen live stream she so good
Thx @chessWoRpire1449, will do that...
@@fredericfrese2853 yeah i've been using her and she kills almost anyone instantly unless they're bad affinity, annoying if they've got armanz but otherwise super scary
@@jacccs thx, didn't try her since her booking
i only booked her alternate form because i used that one more often than her base form but that was pre-buff... now i feel i am more and more leaning to keep her in base form and profit from the block revive. that wasnt consistently possible before her buff though. almost everytime i tried to kill a stone skin harima with the A2 she would just barely survive it with a smidge of HP... now it certainly feels like that isnt a problem anymore... anyway mezo is a great champ
Nais is god tier
💯.
Is Frolni good in Hydra? 🤔
Wish I got the Odin portrait :(….or Odin lol
Loved my Frolni since day 1 I acquired him. The first form is my favorite and I have him at just over 100K hp
I wonder how much harder he be hitting with crushing rend? With all that Hp boosting.
In PvP, that's "just" 6% def ignore. I would not change tooooo much.
Aphidus clears lol 😂
if they changed his passive not from the number of kills but from the number of moves like Harima or Odin. He is still bad especially on newbie accounts. The second form needs a taunt
Nub you had 9 wins in a row! If you were in gold IV you would’ve almost had the badge :p
Watched and wasn’t that impressed by Frolni. Your teams looked effective but found myself picturing Narses or all the other nukers you mentioned in his spot and didn’t see him out performing. Not bad but not that compelling either.
I am FTP, level 89, and I have 3950 points, really close to 4k.. its not that hard (not even some insane luck - my go to is Armanz, Arbiter, Rathalos, Monkey, Eostrid, Fenax and Tormin (some combination of that), sometimes Mithrala and my lucky pull Sulfuryion.
Lol next time answer the Doc lol
They were just calling to remind me about an appointment next week 🙈
@@NubRaids I am sure you have everything under control lol and always your health comes first as Crohn's disease must be taken care of... But you made me laugh so much as if you got a call from yst not dr
The mod Cori and all her friends are giving away to free champs between themselves, I already contact my international lawyer to deal with plarium. But its awful, people work so hard and cori and her mods just give away everything for free. I will also be going after Hh HELL HADES WAS THE MAIN DUDE DOING THE DIRTY
how the fuck are you getting 300% crit damage while also keeping his HP high? he has mediocre HP base stats, makes him frustrating to build properly... i even went for HP% gauntlets in one build because i couldnt get above 100k HP otherwise and that resulted in very poor crit damage stats at only 204%...and i thought that would be the standard for him because he gets that extra crit damage from his HP pool, which gets it out of the gutter again. but seeing your frolni having more than 300%.... PLUS the 100% from the passive, man... that feels like my frolni isnt really up to par with yours. so idk if i should even try to use him in live arena... apparently he could have much higher damage stats than what i can provide, somehow... and you even have him at 270 speed too, thats insane. my mezomel is at 259 and i thought that was fast already... maybe its just that i lack decent HP nuker gear because i maybe subconciously prioritise atk nuker equipment when i'm getting new gear... idk, those stats you have on him seemed to be impossible to reach before i watched this video...
Did you watch the video.
He's got a six star blessing which adds a ridiculous amount of stats to mythicals. Extra 45% crit damage extra 10K life extra 15 speed.
Then he's been end game doing Hydra and dark fae for 4 years.
22k base hp is not mediocre wtf?
Like other comments said, it's end game gear and a 6 star blessing. Mythical blessing are massive since they don't have faction guardians boost
@@NubRaids oke, i didnt take the blessing into account, simply forgot about it ^^
i HAVE a 5star blessing on my mezomel, so i usually know how much that boosts a mythicals stats but i just was shocked by the 300% crit damage i guess and didnt think it through.... i mean i got endgame gear too, my mezo is at 7650 atk and 345% crit damage at 259 speed.... i just seem to have problems finding similarly decent builds for HP nukers... maybe i need to change what i keep and not keep a bit...
Nearly an hour for a video? Come on man, I spend enough time actually in the game. I don’t have an hour to watch a champ video.
Edit, edit, edit. This was hard to watch.