@@PZ7537 Of course, the British or the BBC tell you to uphold Hong Kong's freedom and democracy, and by the way, appoint a leader! Well, it's always best under democracy!😂
one big difference between people in HK and people in mainland is that, mainlander think the occupation of HK by British is a big humiliation , while many HKer are proud of those history
Hong Kong has never been a forgiving place for the working class, even in its 1980s heyday it was a place where the global elite come and go. Pretty typical of a small, closed city-state-type territory, and nor was it ever democratic under Britain. At a macro level, its economic fortunes have been tied to those of China since the 1980s when it gained a monopoly over the export of Chinese goods. That monopoly already waned by the early 2000s and is now long gone. We can't just wish Hong Kong back to a time when China didn't know how to build and run a seaport. The political crisis in 2019 was just a red herring for Hong Kong's bigger problems of decreasing relevance as a trade port. Locally, the biggest problems are the lack of living space and a lack of career diversity. Time will tell how quickly John Lee's administration can help prop up the subsidised housing supply which has dwindled since the Tung Chee-hwa administration more than 20 years ago.
Even for the rich. Back then it was heavy segregation like Apartheid. Hong Kongers werent allowed to live in the same area as British or buried in same cemetaries, schools, sport clubs were of course also segregated for all social classes in Hong Kong.
@@daniellin569 appreciate the flattery but in all honesty. I think I developed my views after experiencing a more democratic (but questionably accountable) government working in California. Honestly there isn’t an easy way for HK to fix its very deep special interest groups (which control the housing situation). I also doubt that all the “democracy” in the world could magically fix its lack of economic diversity because mainland China is just so far ahead in science and tech. Interestingly, John Lee is all about KPIs, so hopefully his housing KPIs are met in the next few years and HKers will have some nice hard numbers to look at before going back to their blame game.
The vlogger said Hong Kong will only get better in the future because for sure Hong Kong will become a city just the same as any other mainland cities. And what makes Hong Kong unique will no longer exist. So depending on what you define on “better”…..
get over it... Hong Kong was RETURNED to China. It is supposed to become part of China again. The break in period being set for 50 years. Whoever didn't want to be China should have left. Only people who worship western culture see it as a problem.
Go to China and visit a few cities. You could even do some research on TH-cam because of the number of Westerners who post about their visits. While on your way you might like to visit Hong Kong and talk to the locals.
The way HONGKONG was unique is because it was the only port to go outseas. To reach ur definition of "unique-hHongkong" will make the life harder for 1.4biliion Chinese . But u wouldn't care about Them right? Only when u bash the ccp then u will care about the "oppressed" Chinese people.
As a guy living in Shenzhen I just trying to figure out why your videoclip from 9:10 intentionally make the brightness of light down to a grey level from maybe 245/255 to nearly 128/255. you think this funny? This supermarket is one of three Sam's club store in Shenzhen, the store is owned by American, so even if you want to depict CHina as horrible place, you should not choose an American supermarket right? Ridiculous.
@@baotutubenbenxiong glass heart much? There’s a shot of the American flag looking grey also, maybe they are trying to make the USA look sinister and evil?
As an overseas Cantonese, I’ve never lived in HK, but I always viewed it as the mecca of my culture, and it has a special place in my heart. It saddens me that the culture is quickly being eradicated.
@@joshzhang7041 Yes, but they are killing off Cantonese culture and language. Cantonese is not as widespread as it once was in Guangdong anymore, and it was never prevalent in Shanzhen, since it’s basically a new city.
@@letsgowalk So? Eradicated means strong deliberate action to completely erase a way of life. I admit that it's sad that fewer young people speak local dialects nowadays, but that's just modernization for you. The youth Shanghai youth are less inclined to speak Shanghainese not because of strict repression but because they live in an interconnected domestic economy where they are more likely to encounter people who don't speak Shanghainese and with whom they can only mutually communicate through Mandarin. Culture is also way more than language, I don't think cantons will ever stop eating whatever has four legs except for tables and chairs and the Shanghainese will never stop loving xiaolongbao(dimsum).
My parents are indigenous Hakka and when they went to school in HK they were taught using Hakka only. Then their language was suddenly replaced by Cantonese because the Cantonese became more influential and powerful. It saddens my parents and a lot of their Hakka friends that their culture and language was eradicated by the Cantonese.
It will prosper and develop and life will get better. This is the cost, but also the advantage. It will be not a colony of foreing Hedge Funds anymore, which is great!
Speaking as an anglo american. No we don't. We just invite others to be equals in our society, which makes us stand out globally. Disagree? Go to London or New York and tell me what is different about our capitals vs the rest of the world
Wait, did Hong Kong were allowed to choose their own governor or were they all appointed by the British? From what read, it was only recently prior to the hand over that they had limited amount of voting rights (but never has equal rights as British subjects.).
Imagine someone gives you a car. Then after 20 years of you driving it everywhere they tell you you're not allowed to drive it anywhere they don't want you to. I mean they didn't have a car 20 years ago SOOOOOO! You're argument is????
No, they weren't. There was a British-appointed Governor and the courts were British appointed. HK was a colony with second class citizens below the British. For a long time English was the only official language!
Here in Australia, there are many Hong Kong citizens have settled here now. Very soon, Hong Kong will just be another Chinese mainland city. It's uniqueness is now swallowed by China.
Mainlanders no need relocate to HK .most cannot speak Cantonese anyway. Why go into a tiny crowded city., when the rests of China is a paradise now made possible by CPC 🇨🇳 President Xi Jinping.
No one wanted to go to HK, its too expensive, people are rude, their living conditions sucks especially house prices are farrr crazier than china. They went to ausi for what? i think its becaus china trying to shake the house land prices because its own by corporate and personal and most of this bigboss already trying to run away to singapore and other countries, while most lands in china mainland actually couldnt be “owned” by anyone but more to “rent”.. and if u are not local, you cant buy their land/house.
👏 well said ! My experience exactly! I went to Hong Kong for vacation 6 years ago and found it expensive, the ppl very rude and there’s lots of poverty there ... I actually had a better time in the mainland so much more affordable, civilized, courteous and polite ! I don’t get the hype about Hong Kong 😂 definitely not planning another visit there 😂
7:02 How honest of her. I would go further to say that all of what she has been doing is because of money. Bloomberg taking a sly dig these groups of people in Hong Kong who are nothing but short-sighted. Shame that it seems there will be only more of them as time goes on.
@@milosuwa Hong Kongers have never been very political, even before the handover. That's why when China allowed investment from Hong Kong to flow in and exploit the newly liberalised labour pool, all the factories in Hong Kong packed up and moved across the border in the early 1980s.
Hk has always been the only place in the world where it produces highly sophisticated, hard working and educated refugees for other countries to prosper off with.
Very telling that the woman who moved to the UK was already an English speaker. The woman who moved to Mainland China only speaks Chinese dialects. Shows you right there the difference in mind and attitude. One wants to be western and one is fine being Chinese.
So, you mean English is superior, One that speaks English is a genius? Which country has the most STEM students? What the 500 years old multi branded Anglo Saxon Modern English is, as compared with the 3000 years old non stop history of Chinese, both spoken and written? Lol, the difference in mind and attitude from a dying WEST!
I think the women moved to mainland China can speak English. It's much more like a Chinese interview. Another hand, if the UK-Chinese women do not married with Britisher, her children still be like Asia-Chinese. Think about Sunak, even he be a premier, people think he is an Indian with first sight。
Wouldn't it be more like British remade hk in its image in the first place? But not really cuz they didn't see the chinese that resided on it as equals?
Valid question. Can't name one innovation, song, movie, drama, product, or anything contributing to humanity since the handover. That is an astronomical cost.
@@willl237 never said that like i said im just questioning his logic or should i say wording here, the best result is that Hongkong maintaining its autonomy but eh we are talking about the ccp there
8:41. Are those judges still wearing wigs in 2024?? 27 years after the handover?? this is ridiculous. hk is no longer a colony. get rid of this colonial symbol !!!!
who are you to say what kind of tradition hkers should throw away? judges wore wigs during the British times, and they still do today. its more of a tradition than a colonial symbol.
0:46 the on screen identification of then Prince Charles as King Charles III is incredibly misleading. He wouldn’t become King for decades after this clip. Bloomberg needs better editors or maybe less lazy ones or maybe ones more in touch with the real world. This is just bad journalism. Do better.
@@bristoled93correctly labeling him as PRINCE has historical and political significance. Britain had a living monarch, being the Queen, but instead chose to send a Prince to the Handover instead. Elizabeth was stubborn and refused to go out of protest against ceding a colony. It is misleading to say “King Charles” was there.
its actually not Chinese. Hong Kong never ever in its history spoke Mandarin or Han chinese. Hong Kong was a Cantonese port and it has specific Cantonese cuisine and culture. The Han have been trying to colonize the Cantonese for thousands of years who are a distinct civlization from the middle kingdom.
@@covfefe1787What？Cantonese are not han chinese？As a Cantonese,why i don't know about this?we just say a dialect，that not means we are different race！粵人也是漢族！
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Hang Kong is changing from a gate between China and the west to a gate way between China and the global south. It is still an international hub, it takes time though.
@@RickBlaine its more of unlucky HK.. they are no different from other Chinese cities and HKers have no more advantages over the rest as well. Yes, I have been to quite a few Chinese cities.
I visited HK twice and I will never wanna go there again because it is not easy walking and bad air and I don't feel safe and it is dirty. Practical reasons.
Right? UK gets to conquer India, Australia, New Zealand, remake these countries to their demographics and people, force everyone to speak their language, hold onto military bases across the planet, but when China attempts to reincorporate an old part of their country that A COUNTRY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTINENT STOLE, suddenly it's ebil China.
you don't "steal" land. if you conquer it you own it. britain is the only state in the history of mankind who has willingly given up so much of its territory. china should be grateful
Hong Kong was originally part of China. They were forced to hand over Hong Kong due to British wanting to colonize due to their greed and China’s drug debt. It was the worst time for Chinese people who felt humiliated for many years after losing Hong Kong to British rule. It was all planned by the British who imported drugs to the Chinese to make them weak financially and mentally unfit to make decisions.
There is a saying: "If you see two fish fighting in water, you can be sure an Englishman passed by five minutes ago". Hong Kong is one of the fish here. The biggest legacy of Western/British Colonialism has been - the unending conflicts of former colonies around the world. Even India-China border conflicts or India-Pakistan conflicts are legacy of British colonization. When US congressmen are openly saying - they should take down the Chinese government and installed their own puppet government in China (like Ukraine in 2014), It's a no brainier for Chinese government to take strict control of those region and people that are potential tools for the west to executed their plans. It's not just the Chinese Communist government, any government in the world, including democratic governments, would take similar actions/control in such cases in order to protect their own country. Its not even a secrete anymore that such protest and secessionist movement are heavily sponsored by organizations like C*A and N*D in many parts of the world.
Silly saying as the intensity of tribal and ethnic conflicts was greater before Western imperial expansion, remember Western Empires conquered other Empires. More regional empires themselves were a product of conquest and conflict. For oxample, you do realize Hong Kong has an indigenous population, and not the Han colonizers, like Yue people such as the Tanka speakers (who have gone extinct and been completely assimilated, and are a tiny statistical minority). The Yue languages are not mutually intelligible with other Chinese languages, they are as difference as Hebrew and Arabic are from one another. The early inhabitants were Austronesians, then Yue people, then the Qin dynasty conquered the indigenous Baiyue. Most of the early Han population were settlers from nearby provinces that migrated to Kowloon throughout the Ming dynasty After the Qing conquest of Hong Kong in the 17th century, the population of most of the area forming present day Hong Kong was cleared under the Great Clearance, turning the region into a wasteland. Then most Han settlement occurred after it became a British colony. If conquest, settlement, and imperial rule is not colonialism than what on Earth is? When a ruler's skin colour is very different? How different? The PRC is a vast territorial-colony, and because it is not democratic to its inhabitants, it is still like the old Chinese empires-an empire.
British behind every conflict is such an unfounded myth. Conflicts have always existed everywhere, period. And to blame china- Indian conflict on British decades after the British have left is just pure irresponsibility. The two countries have had decades to work out their differences, but do not want to because they wanted to exploit patriotism.
Bloomberg journalists not knowing what they're talking about as usual. HK's problem has always been its turbo capitalism and impossible cost of living, forcing a large part of its population to live in cage-homes and tight spaces. This unhappyness just found a valve in the protests. A lot of people interviewed during the protest said that they were unhappy with the social economic situation of the city. The integration with Shenzhen actually helped ease the economic pressure because it allowed Hongkongers to access cheaper goods and services from mainland and improve the quality of their life.
@@canto_v12 Ruined? You got to be kidding! Don't worry about it, Hong Kong are doing fine, now all the Western lapdog ran for UK joined their former Master.
China doesn't really need hongkong, if it becomes part of China it will not even be the top 5 GDP city in China. So Hongkong will just remain what it is for probably a very long time. Taiwan is what China really wants with its semi conductor industry. But Taiwan is much harder to obtain because if TMSC falls in to China's hands, then US will no longer be able to impose sanction on the only area where china is really weak at (Semi conductor industry).
Anyone who physically steps foot in Hong Kong will find it hard to believe all the fabrications made up by the 2019 "protest movement," and the fallacious idea that it is "just another Chinese city now" simply because of some new laws that the salty movement would never dare to test in any other country.
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The one country two system arrangement was never sustainable to begin with, but the speed at which HK is "mainlandized" is nothing short of amazement. With that, HK will lose her status of international financial center, to be replaced by Singapore for the Asia Pacific region.
Had HK not had the out of control violent riot, it would've maintained its international financial center status. Mainlandizing HK is not in the interests of HK or China. If China wanted to, it would have done so many years ago. Even the corrupted Chinese officials lost their means to launder money via HK. One can only assume who promoted it, judging by who sits to gain from HK's misfortune... go figure
Cry more, crypto is big in HK and they're getting more important in international trade now because ban from US. Gold also getting big in HK. I don't think financial status going anywhere soon with China's help.
When China is the world's largest market, it will be the Chinese who decide which city is the financial center... or perhaps you can spend the worthless paper you print yourselves?
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To those of you who have been to HK, what's your impressions of the place? To me, it's a bird cage crowded with bittering and rude people. HK's prime time has long gone, and it'll never come back again with mainland develops by the minute. I don't think HK can't get any worse, so hoping it'll change for the better in the future.
@@darshanchung They probably mean that Hong Kong residents are getting more upset about their decreasing relevance and angry at the current state of affairs.
@@darshanchung On the world stage mostly in the 80s-'90s Hong Kong was the only place where Chinese goods flowed outside of China and foreign goods came in, officially anyway. Now that China has opened up any coastal city can be a trade hub causing Hong Kong to lose its monopoly as the only foreign trade hub. So they are basically being drowned out by the mainland and I guess they are fearful of losing their identity, and the CCP has no incentive to help them remain unique as they lost their purpose other than as a starter hub for foreign investors to look into doing business in china to operate under western-style laws before getting to use to mainland laws. So they push back against the mainland to try and remain afloat which causes the CCP to bring out the baton to keep under control and in line which causes Hong Kong to view the CCP as suppressing and destroying their culture and push back harder which in turn causes the CCP to smack harder.
@@TheGamer2351_ Hong Kong economy does not remain afloat based on goods flowing through it in and out of China. It has been a financial hub for decades, attracting international investment from all over the world through its stock market and financial services, not as starter hub for businesses. None of these have anything to do with the democratic aspirations of the Hong Kong people. People naturally want more freedom and rights, which the communist are unwilling to give.
In fact, mainland Chinese tourism to Hong Kong fell the most immediately after the pandemic. I'm sure it will come back, but the 2019 unrest really targeted mainlanders (regardless of how appropriate or inappropriate you believe that mindset to be).
It doesn't matter, as long as Hong Kong belongs to China. You should know that there are more than 20 million people in Shenzhen and more than one billion in Guangdong.
Imo, this does benefit efficiency between hong kong and mainland, but what im worried about is hong kong's culture and language is being rewritten (replaced) by mainland's. it would be nice to have diverse cultures.
If you tour around different cities within China, languages, culture and food are different. Some of my older relatives who live in rural guangdong can only speak basic mandarin. They communicate in cantonese and hakka (both spoken especially cantonese) in Hong kong. Hong Kong has a unique history. The influence of Britain will diminish but Hong Kong's culture such as cantonese and cuisines will remain.
@@aureamediocritas7357 Actually, most of World's regional languages and cultures are either being exterminated or endangered because of Western colonial rule. 🤓👆
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@@megagigapunch5708 Would you just look at a simple fact? HK (and along with Taiwan) is among the few places where authentic Chinese culture, virtue, religion, etc is being preserved, as well as keeping the traditional chinese characters. HK is held as the modern fountain of Cantonese culture and the only place where the Cantonese language is still fully alive. All of this is because of the so called "Western colonial rule"!
Most people in HK are happy to see the change. The happiest thing people in HK love to see in the last 10 years is to have the national security law - rule 23 just implemented in 2023. This national security law has prevented the city being destroyed by rioters who are funded and orchestrated by foreign powers.
it was swampland before the british took it and transformed it into one of the greatest cities in the world. now china wants it back after britain improved it
0:25 no, Hong Kong showed something much more brilliant than that. It demonstrated how economic freedom can transform a small fishing village into a global powerhouse. It showed that free market capitalism is the most potent economic system for improving the standard of living of an entire society.
it wasnt a fishing village. It just had fishing because it was near the sea. Hong kong has always been an important trading post but business took it to a higher level
@@levelaznSo?? They had already many cities in the mainland!! HK is just a place in China's territory. Do you even know the history of NYC?? It was called New Amsterdam, few centuries ago!!
With only 20 years of the transition period left. It makes sense China would start making incremental changes to Hong Kong so it would eventually integrate smoothly into the rest of China. You can't seriously expect them to change absolutely nothing for 50 years, and then boom instantly dissolve all political, financial, and transport systems overnight when the time is up.
... and why not?!? Eventually, in the 50 years, a gradual transition needs to be planned and implemented. Unification in all aspects can't be done overnight then. Mind you, even for the Brits, essentially they didn't bother to democratise HK in the early 95 years of colonial rule. All power was centralised by UK. Only in the last years, under Patten, did they democratise and changed the rules to limited areas for self rule, most likely to throw a spanner in the works knowing full well that China was taking over ... seems that people have short memories and forgot this colonial attitude 😅!
@@TheChaosblock We are patriots. We love China! Hong Kong is one part of China and it is impossible to separete it from China. You west countries are losing the cold war against China. Hahaha!
That National Security Law + Covid... did a number on HK... and I am sad that this happened, since China didn't keep their word on the 50 years of 1 country 2 systems...
That is false. The 1997 Basic Law (constitution) states in article 23, that Hong Kong "shall enact laws on its own to prohibit any act of treason, secession, sedition, subversion against the Central People's Government". It always was the law.
Yeah, under British rule, Hong Kong didn't have democracy, but people had all sorts of freedoms. No one would get jailed just for saying a few slogans, unlike under the Chinese Communist Party. When the British were in charge, Hong Kong turned into an international city, a financial hub, and the most prosperous place in Asia. But today, under the Chinese Communist Party, Hong Kong has lost all its advantages. The stock market has been surpassed by Taiwan and India, foreign investments are pulling out, and lots of social elites are leaving. This city is dying.
Territories are social structures, not places. You do realize Hong Kong has an indigenous population, and not the Han colonizers, like Yue people such as the Tanka speakers (who have gone extinct and been completely assimilated, and are a tiny statistical minority). The Yue languages are not mutually intelligible with other Chinese languages, they are as difference as Hebrew and Arabic are from one another. The early inhabitants were Austronesians, then Yue people, then the Qin dynasty conquered the indigenous Baiyue. Most of the early Han population were settlers from nearby provinces that migrated to Kowloon throughout the Ming dynasty After the Qing conquest of Hong Kong in the 17th century, the population of most of the area forming present day Hong Kong was cleared under the Great Clearance, turning the region into a wasteland. Then most Han settlement occurred after it became a British colony.
@@jameswitzen7487 That doesn't change the fact that hong kong was taken from China. The US and the west would never allow any of their territories to be taken away like what they did to hk. Also what you said can be applied to the west, especially the US.
@@jameswitzen7487 LOL what revisionist fiction is this?? HK was a handful of tiny fishing villages at concession to UK. It was popular to Britian because it was so sparsely populated it was a successful smuggling point. The population grew out of successive waves of migration from China and the British Empire. There people were THEN insocrtrinated under a Colonial Dictatorship into a British administration and culture. HK is a Colonial Settler Culture on Chinese land of Chinese people.
@@darshanchung Prob talking abt the Israel-Palestine Conflict. And I suppose they made this video in relation to the recent law change in both Macau and Hong Kong on a stronger, more restrictive National Security Law.
That was conquest. The “native” Americans were not native. They displaced each other and had no permanent land of their own nor a woking institutionalised society like HK. In the past you die not have international laws. Today however, you do.
You are right. This so-called news article is propaganda and full of lies. How is throwing petrol bombs and burning the shops of Mainland immigrants Democracy? Beijing offered Hong Kong democracy in 2019 and it was rejected. In 2019 things just went wild and there is no way Beijing will trust Hong Kong again.
My family was treated like 2nd class citizens in their own home city by the British. Their home was taken from them and they had no rights. And British have the nerve to say that they were better off then. Hong Kong is and always was China. Just because the British colonised Hong Kong doesn't mean that all of the sudden it wasn't China. It was China under foreign occupation.
it was never your family's home. it was swampland before the british built a port and infrastructure. THEN your family moved there. if you want to reap the benefits of someone else's work you need you abide by their rules.
This is is a silly argument. 'China' is a modern territorial-colonial construct, and the People's Republic of China was formed long after the British colony of Hong Kong. And most Han settlement and colonization in the region, while occurring after the Qing conquest of Hong Kong, was mostly in the British era.
Was just in HK for a week two weeks ago. The city is a lot cleaner now than it was in 2003 when I last went. The air is clean. You can lean on walls and handrails and not be covered in soot like it would have been 20 years ago. Granted it was slower. Restaurants weren't full and hotel prices were quite low. The hustle and bustle is now a calm but still diverse city. Bus drivers used to race each other for the right to merge and vehicles had the right or way. Now drivers are quite respectful of pedestrians which was a nice change.
You're entitled to your opinion, but the overwhelming visitor flow from Hong Kong to Chinese mainland every weekend seems to indicate otherwise. Not all visitors agree with China's politics and policies, and they're still doing fine when crossing borders.
"Hong Kong is becoming 'similar' to any other city in the mainland" duhhhhh as if the cities in the mainland are all alike hahahaha The differences between Beijing and Shanghai, for instance, are as pronounced as those between Shenzhen and Hong Kong 🤷🤷
@@SimonCU In terms of progressive development, absolutely, Shenzhen and Shanghai are more visionary than Hong Kong. HK still has some unmatched street life, especially in the older areas with small "mom-and-pop" shops. The old school atmosphere is amazing.
I think people are vastly underestimating how much harder it has become to do business in HK for international businesses in the past few years. Expats don't want to go. Information security is so onerous as to be prohibitive (my firm makes me hand in my laptop and phone and pick up local clean+restricted ones in HK if I need to be there, even for personal business). The pervasive sense of constant surveillance and the speed at which the surveillance is escalating. Being legally counseled out of entire industries (I am a management consultant and we're voluntarily withdrawing from a lot of industries because it has gotten physically dangerous for us to do even very basic due diligence on stuff like executive pay... which apparently gets too close to CCP corruption). HK is dying as a global financial center way faster than people anticipated. Chinese money will keep it afloat for a while but even within China there are competing interests from Shanghai/Shenzhen that actually want to replace HK as the premier financial center in China.
there were 2000+ ppl. in Hong Kong's US consulate. Now it's only less a 1000 left after the National Security Laws. What have the 1000 Americans been doing?
Remaking? Turning it into a political, economic and social basket case isn’t ‘remaking’ it’s just destruction. That’s why so many investors have left. Why would Taiwan want to even consider joining China having seen how Hong Kong a once vibrant beacon of Asia has been trashed. So much talent and investment has left Hong Kong for other countries like Singapore.
Finally the millions of honest, hardworking HKers gets a chance to own a property when the exorbitant prices comes down. HK is turning into a place where regular people can live, instead of a place for low taxes on the rich, and heaven for crimes.
@@DubboU I honestly doubt whether you've had a look at the mortgages that people are still having to pay off in 2024. Just because prices fall doesn't mean it's affordable. Look at the data and stop living in a fantasy.
@@DubboU lol, less investment equals less development, less jobs, lower paying jobs, poorer infrastructure and so on. It’s this kind of anti-investment kind of thinking that keeps people like you poor.
You can learn about how Li Ka-shing and the British government behind him harvested the wealth of ordinary people in Hong Kong, and then discuss how this mess came about.
The British held HK for centuries. They didnt give HK democracy. why? No one seemed to complain. All their senior officials were appointed. Now that its gone back to China suddenly the people want democracy. why? You can see its being stirred from outside. If you are not doing anything wrong or illegal why should you be scared of the extradition bill?
We all know the British would've have eventually given Hong Kong independence just like all their other colonies or at least given them a referendum. Would China do the same hmmm? Why didn't the British give Hong Kong independence by 1997? Because of the 99 year lease. There was no point giving independence just for it to be gobbled up by its neighbour.
@@MrCorky911 Give independence? so you think these things are gifts gave by benevolent imperial masters? Or you are dishonest or you need study history alot more. Not a single Brit colony recieved independence freely. Best example is India.
@@elainetamika4822 Singapore got its independent through negotiation with British. If British didn't sign the lease with Qing China they sure can give Hong Kong their independence as they had win Hong Kong from Qing China. If not for the lease I believe part of China occupied by Eight-Nation Alliance may had been independent from their colony countries.
@@Game_Hero Hongkongers are Chinese from China, and, without China supplying water to HK in the 60s, Hongkongers would not have survived the drought!! 飲水思源！
@@AL-sj2dx Hongkongers are hongkongers from Hong Kong as they say so, period. So what if it got supplied water, doesn't change a thing about what I said.
Looking at HKG, it’s amazed to see how China can ruin a place in such a short time. Hong Kong was comparable to New York , and now even Detroit has a brighter future. Brilliant work China.
Workers in Hong-Kong does not earn enough money to live decently in Hong-Kong. Many Chinese cross the border to work there and go back to mainland China everyday. I am sure this phenomenon will get fixed in the next years.
It’s amazing how much effort the Chinese government paid to a TH-cam comment section, all these standardised model answers are so cheesy, no one talks like that in real life😂 not even the pinkies 😂😂
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How come Britain never let Hong Kongers choose their leader? I thought they believed in democracy
and vote......
Only white leader
Britain leader for hundred year was always white men appointed by UK.. n now they cry democracy?? Hypocrisy
Because hhongkong was taken illegally from cchina
it was white supremacy.
It's crazy that HK was given up to the Brits as a drug debt
It was the British insisted to do so
Open ur eyes wide for the western colonialism 😊😊😊
Let's not sugar coat it, it was colonization
It was a parking spot for their ships. Nothing more back then.
It's crazy how everyone hates the CCP
The governor of HK was ALWAYS appointed by the UK- never elected.
...and still performed better than the Chinese-appointed ones. Makes you think...
@@PZ7537 Of course, the British or the BBC tell you to uphold Hong Kong's freedom and democracy, and by the way, appoint a leader! Well, it's always best under democracy!😂
@@PZ7537 where is the evidence?
@@PZ7537😂😂😂😂. Go sleep!!
@@PZ7537You must be white Englishman
one big difference between people in HK and people in mainland is that, mainlander think the occupation of HK by British is a big humiliation , while many HKer are proud of those history
港支会感到自豪
Oh no! China is remaking Hong Kong (which is part of China & 95% ethnically Chinese) in its own image! 😂
The hypocrisy is unreal. 😮
They can go to London and enjoy their pride there
@@baha3alshamari152 exactly
Independent people vs Conquered people
Hong Kong has never been a forgiving place for the working class, even in its 1980s heyday it was a place where the global elite come and go. Pretty typical of a small, closed city-state-type territory, and nor was it ever democratic under Britain. At a macro level, its economic fortunes have been tied to those of China since the 1980s when it gained a monopoly over the export of Chinese goods. That monopoly already waned by the early 2000s and is now long gone.
We can't just wish Hong Kong back to a time when China didn't know how to build and run a seaport. The political crisis in 2019 was just a red herring for Hong Kong's bigger problems of decreasing relevance as a trade port.
Locally, the biggest problems are the lack of living space and a lack of career diversity. Time will tell how quickly John Lee's administration can help prop up the subsidised housing supply which has dwindled since the Tung Chee-hwa administration more than 20 years ago.
Even for the rich. Back then it was heavy segregation like Apartheid. Hong Kongers werent allowed to live in the same area as British or buried in same cemetaries, schools, sport clubs were of course also segregated for all social classes in Hong Kong.
Great comment!! They should have interviewed you! But you don't fit the narrative they want to create.
@@Trgn You need to add in for example in Shell a British MNC they are segregated toilet for British expat from local Hongkongers.
Wow an actual intelligent comment.
@@daniellin569 appreciate the flattery but in all honesty. I think I developed my views after experiencing a more democratic (but questionably accountable) government working in California. Honestly there isn’t an easy way for HK to fix its very deep special interest groups (which control the housing situation). I also doubt that all the “democracy” in the world could magically fix its lack of economic diversity because mainland China is just so far ahead in science and tech.
Interestingly, John Lee is all about KPIs, so hopefully his housing KPIs are met in the next few years and HKers will have some nice hard numbers to look at before going back to their blame game.
The vlogger said Hong Kong will only get better in the future because for sure Hong Kong will become a city just the same as any other mainland cities. And what makes Hong Kong unique will no longer exist.
So depending on what you define on “better”…..
get over it... Hong Kong was RETURNED to China. It is supposed to become part of China again. The break in period being set for 50 years. Whoever didn't want to be China should have left. Only people who worship western culture see it as a problem.
Go to China and visit a few cities. You could even do some research on TH-cam because of the number of Westerners who post about their visits. While on your way you might like to visit Hong Kong and talk to the locals.
she knows the dangers of stepping on partys line. She choose ignorance and obedience. Anything a puppy says on geopolitics shall then be ignored.
The way HONGKONG was unique is because it was the only port to go outseas. To reach ur definition of "unique-hHongkong" will make the life harder for 1.4biliion Chinese . But u wouldn't care about Them right? Only when u bash the ccp then u will care about the "oppressed" Chinese people.
@@yomajo look like
enter the parliament building
America: riots overthrow the government
Hong Kong and Ukraine: voices of freedom
As a guy living in Shenzhen I just trying to figure out why your videoclip from 9:10 intentionally make the brightness of light down to a grey level from maybe 245/255 to nearly 128/255. you think this funny? This supermarket is one of three Sam's club store in Shenzhen, the store is owned by American, so even if you want to depict CHina as horrible place, you should not choose an American supermarket right? Ridiculous.
@@baotutubenbenxiong glass heart much? There’s a shot of the American flag looking grey also, maybe they are trying to make the USA look sinister and evil?
If you live there, ccp does not allow you to use youtube. What are you doing here?
@@Obsidian-Nebulano one cares about VPN there either just saying
@Noacuracy It's illegal for Chinese to use it
@@Obsidian-Nebula so what? we are not punished, and that means legal😂
As an overseas Cantonese, I’ve never lived in HK, but I always viewed it as the mecca of my culture, and it has a special place in my heart. It saddens me that the culture is quickly being eradicated.
Rradicated is a bit of a strong word.... Anyways both Canton and ShenZhen are already bigger and wealthier cities than Hongkong in terms of total GDP.
@@joshzhang7041 Yes, but they are killing off Cantonese culture and language. Cantonese is not as widespread as it once was in Guangdong anymore, and it was never prevalent in Shanzhen, since it’s basically a new city.
@@letsgowalk So? Eradicated means strong deliberate action to completely erase a way of life. I admit that it's sad that fewer young people speak local dialects nowadays, but that's just modernization for you. The youth Shanghai youth are less inclined to speak Shanghainese not because of strict repression but because they live in an interconnected domestic economy where they are more likely to encounter people who don't speak Shanghainese and with whom they can only mutually communicate through Mandarin. Culture is also way more than language, I don't think cantons will ever stop eating whatever has four legs except for tables and chairs and the Shanghainese will never stop loving xiaolongbao(dimsum).
My parents are indigenous Hakka and when they went to school in HK they were taught using Hakka only. Then their language was suddenly replaced by Cantonese because the Cantonese became more influential and powerful. It saddens my parents and a lot of their Hakka friends that their culture and language was eradicated by the Cantonese.
Hong Kong people has no political right Under the British
They have political right Under China
China makes HK in its own image, but, at what cost??????
It will prosper and develop and life will get better. This is the cost, but also the advantage. It will be not a colony of foreing Hedge Funds anymore, which is great!
@@BarsonlineOrg2013HK beloongs to Britiss an Amerikka. Remembur Joshuua woong? He waiv Amerikkan an Britiss fleg to faight for freedam
HAHAHA nothing, but the sour words from the west🤣
dont worry about it
@@BarsonlineOrg2013why can't communist accept that most people dont wanna live in a social credit system
Another White Anglo Saxon speaks..".we rule the world. Only we can make countries in our own image."
Anglos rule the waves
its an anglo world
@@Warspite-1915 Anglo it is. from Arabia
Speaking as an anglo american. No we don't. We just invite others to be equals in our society, which makes us stand out globally. Disagree? Go to London or New York and tell me what is different about our capitals vs the rest of the world
Oh no! China is remaking Hong Kong (which is part of China & 95% ethnically Chinese) in its own image! 😂
The hypocrisy is unreal. 😮
Wait, did Hong Kong were allowed to choose their own governor or were they all appointed by the British? From what read, it was only recently prior to the hand over that they had limited amount of voting rights (but never has equal rights as British subjects.).
Imagine someone gives you a car. Then after 20 years of you driving it everywhere they tell you you're not allowed to drive it anywhere they don't want you to. I mean they didn't have a car 20 years ago SOOOOOO!
You're argument is????
No, they weren't. There was a British-appointed Governor and the courts were British appointed. HK was a colony with second class citizens below the British. For a long time English was the only official language!
@@FatheredPuma81 Image a drug dealer stole your car at gun point and drove it for 150 years.............
@@FatheredPuma81😂😂😂😂 what car 😂
Yep! And now the CCP is doing the same thing! those people really can't catch a break.
Here in Australia, there are many Hong Kong citizens have settled here now. Very soon, Hong Kong will just be another Chinese mainland city. It's uniqueness is now swallowed by China.
Mainlanders no need relocate to HK .most cannot speak Cantonese anyway. Why go into a tiny crowded city., when the rests of China is a paradise now made possible by CPC 🇨🇳 President Xi Jinping.
No one wanted to go to HK, its too expensive, people are rude, their living conditions sucks especially house prices are farrr crazier than china. They went to ausi for what? i think its becaus china trying to shake the house land prices because its own by corporate and personal and most of this bigboss already trying to run away to singapore and other countries, while most lands in china mainland actually couldnt be “owned” by anyone but more to “rent”.. and if u are not local, you cant buy their land/house.
👏 well said ! My experience exactly! I went to Hong Kong for vacation 6 years ago and found it expensive, the ppl very rude and there’s lots of poverty there ... I actually had a better time in the mainland so much more affordable, civilized, courteous and polite ! I don’t get the hype about Hong Kong 😂 definitely not planning another visit there 😂
Whats the uniqueness of hong kong? people living in bedspace cages?
Or very soon Australia become just another Chinese city really
7:02 How honest of her. I would go further to say that all of what she has been doing is because of money. Bloomberg taking a sly dig these groups of people in Hong Kong who are nothing but short-sighted. Shame that it seems there will be only more of them as time goes on.
She represents most young people in the west nowadays who have no idea about politics….They just care about money and social media…..
Yup, „deoi zingzi ⋯ ngo hai mou gam care” means „I’m scared to talk about politics” in Cantonese afaik.
@@milosuwa Hong Kongers have never been very political, even before the handover. That's why when China allowed investment from Hong Kong to flow in and exploit the newly liberalised labour pool, all the factories in Hong Kong packed up and moved across the border in the early 1980s.
@@milosuwa She meant she doesn't care, you heard it wrong
@@dariomaricic2031perhaps milosuwa meant that she was saying it in an indirect way to stay out of trouble
Hk has always been the only place in the world where it produces highly sophisticated, hard working and educated refugees for other countries to prosper off with.
Canada and Australia say hi.
Hahah what a joke
You meant the whole of East Asia?
They aren't technically refugees. There are immigration pathways specifically designed for them.
@@StanleyAu When did Canadians and Australians become refugees?
Very telling that the woman who moved to the UK was already an English speaker. The woman who moved to Mainland China only speaks Chinese dialects. Shows you right there the difference in mind and attitude. One wants to be western and one is fine being Chinese.
A Chinese will always be a Chinese regardless of how many times she shed her skin😅
So, you mean English is superior, One that speaks English is a genius?
Which country has the most STEM students?
What the 500 years old multi branded Anglo Saxon Modern English is, as compared with the 3000 years old non stop history of Chinese, both spoken and written?
Lol, the difference in mind and attitude from a dying WEST!
@@CoramDeogenua lol u been to China before? you sound like a whitehouse expert on China. 😂
@@CoramDeogenua hahaha, so funny. please open your eyes la.
I think the women moved to mainland China can speak English. It's much more like a Chinese interview.
Another hand, if the UK-Chinese women do not married with Britisher, her children still be like Asia-Chinese. Think about Sunak, even he be a premier, people think he is an Indian with first sight。
Wouldn't it be more like British remade hk in its image in the first place? But not really cuz they didn't see the chinese that resided on it as equals?
Britain was surprisedly hands off when it came to the data running off Hong Kong not in a liberal way more like ancap.
british gov just forced some of their law makers to exit HK. looks like Brits also love to take part shapping HK into more Chinese image.
@TeeHee-vo1bn hong kong success is not because of britain but because of the chinese,
@TeeHee-vo1bnsame saying also applied to china: without china.
@@yuihanasaka1076 then why are so many former British colony poor?
Please don't make Taiwan becomes next Hong Kong, long live Hong Kong and Taiwan 🙏
We are now witnessing Hong Kong's metamorphosis: Finance fades, fishing returns
"But at what cost?" - BBC😂
Oh no! China is remaking Hong Kong (which is part of China & 95% ethnically Chinese) in its own image! 😂 The hypocrisy from Western media is unreal. 😮
Oh no! China is remaking Hong Kong (which is part of China & 95% ethnically Chinese) in its own image! 😂
The hypocrisy is unreal. 😮
they're not the BBC? Should have added all silenced activists for Hong Kong as saying so.
Valid question. Can't name one innovation, song, movie, drama, product, or anything contributing to humanity since the handover. That is an astronomical cost.
@@mikemlejnek4194 You got to be kdding me, I don't know what fatansy world you're living in, but Hong Kong is doing so much better than 2019.
Hong Kong is just another Chinese city. PRC don't need HK more than they need Hangzhou, Dalian or Tianjin
If they don't it why they want it so bad?
@@notusneoread the history about hongkong takeover, a drug dealer 100 years ago came and take ur land ilegally ofc u want it back
@@Salvinorin but he said chinese government doesnt need it, if they didnt need it why they want it so bad? Im just questioning his logic here
@@notusneo so china would just give up its own land?
@@willl237 never said that like i said im just questioning his logic or should i say wording here, the best result is that Hongkong maintaining its autonomy but eh we are talking about the ccp there
"I don't care about politics" is code for "I care only about myself"
bruh
"I care about politics" is code for "I don't care about anyone else"
Thats how the west democracy work in the west.
What the chinese lady mean was: if i know nothing about cars, im not going to pretend as an car expert.
@@JKSelama, thats how westerners attitudes in the west. They tey to be an expert on everything, even they know nothing.
Right...not caring about the politics for the last 100 years but decided to have election just before handover?
8:41. Are those judges still wearing wigs in 2024?? 27 years after the handover?? this is ridiculous. hk is no longer a colony. get rid of this colonial symbol !!!!
who are you to say what kind of tradition hkers should throw away? judges wore wigs during the British times, and they still do today. its more of a tradition than a colonial symbol.
@@viscid2906 Tradições não são impostas, tradições nascem num povo. É um símbolo colonial.
0:46 the on screen identification of then Prince Charles as King Charles III is incredibly misleading. He wouldn’t become King for decades after this clip. Bloomberg needs better editors or maybe less lazy ones or maybe ones more in touch with the real world. This is just bad journalism. Do better.
It's still correct as he is now the King and no longer the price of Wales.
@@bristoled93now he is but he wasn’t back then
@@UndeadSlayer5 But this video was made very recently but the footage used is of the current king.
@@bristoled93correctly labeling him as PRINCE has historical and political significance. Britain had a living monarch, being the Queen, but instead chose to send a Prince to the Handover instead. Elizabeth was stubborn and refused to go out of protest against ceding a colony. It is misleading to say “King Charles” was there.
Maybe it's because Hong Kong is literally Chinese even though it was a former British colony.
British colonizers made North America, Australia and New Zealand in its own image and killed the native people off. At least HK is Chinese land.
I think you mean countries people try to live in not escape
Much better places now, no longer stone age.
Why can't Hong kongers decide what they want? If the people of China love xi jinping soo much why dont they have elections? Oooo wait they dont😂
its actually not Chinese. Hong Kong never ever in its history spoke Mandarin or Han chinese. Hong Kong was a Cantonese port and it has specific Cantonese cuisine and culture. The Han have been trying to colonize the Cantonese for thousands of years who are a distinct civlization from the middle kingdom.
@@covfefe1787What？Cantonese are not han chinese？As a Cantonese,why i don't know about this?we just say a dialect，that not means we are different race！粵人也是漢族！
Don's just speak, please allow all Hongkong citizens to migrate to the UK, and offer them jobs.
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Hang Kong is changing from a gate between China and the west to a gate way between China and the global south. It is still an international hub, it takes time though.
Now.. its just another Chinese city just like other cities in China.
@@ernestkj Lucky them. I take it you have visited a few Chinese cities?
@@RickBlaine its more of unlucky HK.. they are no different from other Chinese cities and HKers have no more advantages over the rest as well. Yes, I have been to quite a few Chinese cities.
@@ernestkj You will understand then how their future will be, Wouldn't you say "Lucky Hong Kong?"
The current central cities in Southeast Asia in China are Kunming or Nanning
Hong Kongers knew this was coming. Sad and shameful what they did to the protestors
Yeah, totally controlled and professional. Kudos to the HK police.
Are you referring to how the police reacted to the peaceful civilian and student protestors in the western countries?
@@AL-sj2dx shameful in the west too.
Cope, Hong Kong is a territory of China
No more CIA operation😢😢
This is so sad. I used to visit Hong Kong all the time. Truly a remarkable place. Now, I'm not sure I would go back.
dont go then, visit japan
I still visit Hong Kong its still the same vibrant city no what any propaganda says.
I visited HK twice and I will never wanna go there again because it is not easy walking and bad air and I don't feel safe and it is dirty. Practical reasons.
Don't go then. I believe they don't want u either.
@@binbindu6159 Way ahead of you.
As a Hong Kong person, it’s just depressing seeing the place I love slowly becoming such a undesirable place.
Westernised mindset, that you have
Better become Ukraine in asia
@@benedictlik5489 he is definitely westernised, forgot his root..
@@xieferryHere's your 50 cents, wumao.
How do you feel about all the bots in this comment section?
This is what Taiwan is trying to avoid. If Taiwan is reunified with mainland China, I am pretty sure it would turn out just like HK.
You do know the leader of Taiwan is pro China right ? 😅
Disagree.
@@liaky0089it’s pretty obvious that it will turn out the same . China said they would let honk Kong stay the same but they changed it forcibly
Colonise…
You should focus on not becoming Ukraine.
Haha , HK is part of China stolen by Britain , what do u think was gonna happen ?
Brits gave it back because old china was weak
@@NotGoldenboibrits didn’t even have the capability to keep it, their military is 10x worser then China
Right? UK gets to conquer India, Australia, New Zealand, remake these countries to their demographics and people, force everyone to speak their language, hold onto military bases across the planet, but when China attempts to reincorporate an old part of their country that A COUNTRY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTINENT STOLE, suddenly it's ebil China.
you don't "steal" land. if you conquer it you own it. britain is the only state in the history of mankind who has willingly given up so much of its territory. china should be grateful
... The UK was no longer an empire afyer WWII
That COVID was super convenient for China's domination over Hong Kong.
From the British to the CCP, these people have never had a break.
From China - Britain - back to China.
This comment is ignorant.
Hong Kong was originally part of China. They were forced to hand over Hong Kong due to British wanting to colonize due to their greed and China’s drug debt. It was the worst time for Chinese people who felt humiliated for many years after losing Hong Kong to British rule. It was all planned by the British who imported drugs to the Chinese to make them weak financially and mentally unfit to make decisions.
There is a saying: "If you see two fish fighting in water, you can be sure an Englishman passed by five minutes ago".
Hong Kong is one of the fish here. The biggest legacy of Western/British Colonialism has been - the unending conflicts of former colonies around the world. Even India-China border conflicts or India-Pakistan conflicts are legacy of British colonization.
When US congressmen are openly saying - they should take down the Chinese government and installed their own puppet government in China (like Ukraine in 2014), It's a no brainier for Chinese government to take strict control of those region and people that are potential tools for the west to executed their plans. It's not just the Chinese Communist government, any government in the world, including democratic governments, would take similar actions/control in such cases in order to protect their own country. Its not even a secrete anymore that such protest and secessionist movement are heavily sponsored by organizations like C*A and N*D in many parts of the world.
if the british are gone why are they still fighting
Silly saying as the intensity of tribal and ethnic conflicts was greater before Western imperial expansion, remember Western Empires conquered other Empires. More regional empires themselves were a product of conquest and conflict.
For oxample, you do realize Hong Kong has an indigenous population, and not the Han colonizers, like Yue people such as the Tanka speakers (who have gone extinct and been completely assimilated, and are a tiny statistical minority). The Yue languages are not mutually intelligible with other Chinese languages, they are as difference as Hebrew and Arabic are from one another.
The early inhabitants were Austronesians, then Yue people, then the Qin dynasty conquered the indigenous Baiyue. Most of the early Han population were settlers from nearby provinces that migrated to Kowloon throughout the Ming dynasty
After the Qing conquest of Hong Kong in the 17th century, the population of most of the area forming present day Hong Kong was cleared under the Great Clearance, turning the region into a wasteland. Then most Han settlement occurred after it became a British colony.
If conquest, settlement, and imperial rule is not colonialism than what on Earth is? When a ruler's skin colour is very different? How different? The PRC is a vast territorial-colony, and because it is not democratic to its inhabitants, it is still like the old Chinese empires-an empire.
@@jameswitzen7487 for most people history began in the 20th century
"If you see two fish fighting in water, you can be sure an Englishman passed by five minutes ago".
this is so true
British behind every conflict is such an unfounded myth. Conflicts have always existed everywhere, period. And to blame china- Indian conflict on British decades after the British have left is just pure irresponsibility. The two countries have had decades to work out their differences, but do not want to because they wanted to exploit patriotism.
Double standard means no standard. It basically says you must do this and I will do whatever I want.
Bloomberg journalists not knowing what they're talking about as usual. HK's problem has always been its turbo capitalism and impossible cost of living, forcing a large part of its population to live in cage-homes and tight spaces. This unhappyness just found a valve in the protests. A lot of people interviewed during the protest said that they were unhappy with the social economic situation of the city.
The integration with Shenzhen actually helped ease the economic pressure because it allowed Hongkongers to access cheaper goods and services from mainland and improve the quality of their life.
😂😂😂😂
Oh no! China is remaking Hong Kong (which is part of China & 95% ethnically Chinese) in its own image! 😂
The hypocrisy is unreal. 😮
"Communism ruined this place." - news report about one of the most capitalist places in the world.
@@canto_v12 Ruined? You got to be kidding! Don't worry about it, Hong Kong are doing fine, now all the Western lapdog ran for UK joined their former Master.
@@canto_v12 Runied? You got to be kidding! HK is doing fine!
Smart, vigilant and involved people moving to the UK, Canada and the US is the real loss for Hong Kong.
that is true for a western hong kong but not for a chinese hong kong.
Plenty of British moved out of Britain.
@@kimeli in other words a hongkongese Hong Kong versus a washed out average chinese city?
@@Game_Hero Hong Kong was always a part of china before being robbed by the Brits. your arrogance towards Chinese people knows no bounds.
@@Amidat My support toward the will of the hongkongese people knows no bound indeed, as I do for the scottish and welsh peoples as well.
Hongkong is a dying city
China doesn't really need hongkong, if it becomes part of China it will not even be the top 5 GDP city in China. So Hongkong will just remain what it is for probably a very long time. Taiwan is what China really wants with its semi conductor industry. But Taiwan is much harder to obtain because if TMSC falls in to China's hands, then US will no longer be able to impose sanction on the only area where china is really weak at (Semi conductor industry).
There is no 'if'. Hong Kong is part of China.
I live in Hong Kong, and love it still. I think it'll be hard for others not to see that who frequented it before as the years go on.
难道不是香港自己的衰落吗？别把时代的机遇当成自己努力的结果，70-90年代是因为大陆对外窗口只有香港，所有贸易走必须走这条线，想想吧一个十多亿人口的国家所有物流贸易都必须走一个城市，这个城市会不发达吗？现在风口时代过去了而已，
@@杰克马-u3d I think you misinterpreted what I’m saying
Anyone who physically steps foot in Hong Kong will find it hard to believe all the fabrications made up by the 2019 "protest movement," and the fallacious idea that it is "just another Chinese city now" simply because of some new laws that the salty movement would never dare to test in any other country.
@@杰克马-u3d 他的意思是有背后势力挑拨，本质上楼主是友军。
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Hong Kongers must migrate to UK to experience real freedom. Hahahahaha
hahahahahaha
Real freedom? In the UK? funny
The comment section reeks of typical mainlander rhetorics.
@@johnnydutton6777 found the HK who believes they are european 😂
@@panama2468here’s your 5 cents
The one country two system arrangement was never sustainable to begin with, but the speed at which HK is "mainlandized" is nothing short of amazement. With that, HK will lose her status of international financial center, to be replaced by Singapore for the Asia Pacific region.
Had HK not had the out of control violent riot, it would've maintained its international financial center status. Mainlandizing HK is not in the interests of HK or China. If China wanted to, it would have done so many years ago. Even the corrupted Chinese officials lost their means to launder money via HK. One can only assume who promoted it, judging by who sits to gain from HK's misfortune... go figure
Cry more, crypto is big in HK and they're getting more important in international trade now because ban from US. Gold also getting big in HK. I don't think financial status going anywhere soon with China's help.
When China is the world's largest market, it will be the Chinese who decide which city is the financial center... or perhaps you can spend the worthless paper you print yourselves?
@@outman1923 🤣🤣🤣
lol China is the international financial centre, Hong Kong is just China's designated gateway.
How about compare it to the protestors in US Capitol attack.
Literally nothing to compare that to Lol. Do you even know what it was about CCP bot?
Or BLM
@@ryanspinoza6586So many bots! Its crazy
@@ryanspinoza6586 not like u, CIA bot
Literally a whataboutism
The British NEVER let Hong Kongers elect a Leader and NOW they CRY?
Thank you for your input Wumao. Now shut up and get a real job!
Stockholm Syndrome!
@@sinamark-com I don’t think you know what Stockholm Syndrome is.
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To those of you who have been to HK, what's your impressions of the place? To me, it's a bird cage crowded with bittering and rude people. HK's prime time has long gone, and it'll never come back again with mainland develops by the minute. I don't think HK can't get any worse, so hoping it'll change for the better in the future.
What is bittering?
@@darshanchung They probably mean that Hong Kong residents are getting more upset about their decreasing relevance and angry at the current state of affairs.
@@TheGamer2351_ decreasing relevance to what? They take out their anger at china on tourists?
@@darshanchung On the world stage mostly in the 80s-'90s Hong Kong was the only place where Chinese goods flowed outside of China and foreign goods came in, officially anyway. Now that China has opened up any coastal city can be a trade hub causing Hong Kong to lose its monopoly as the only foreign trade hub. So they are basically being drowned out by the mainland and I guess they are fearful of losing their identity, and the CCP has no incentive to help them remain unique as they lost their purpose other than as a starter hub for foreign investors to look into doing business in china to operate under western-style laws before getting to use to mainland laws. So they push back against the mainland to try and remain afloat which causes the CCP to bring out the baton to keep under control and in line which causes Hong Kong to view the CCP as suppressing and destroying their culture and push back harder which in turn causes the CCP to smack harder.
@@TheGamer2351_ Hong Kong economy does not remain afloat based on goods flowing through it in and out of China. It has been a financial hub for decades, attracting international investment from all over the world through its stock market and financial services, not as starter hub for businesses. None of these have anything to do with the democratic aspirations of the Hong Kong people. People naturally want more freedom and rights, which the communist are unwilling to give.
I expect the demograpics of tourists to HK has changed significantly in the last couple of years.
In fact, mainland Chinese tourism to Hong Kong fell the most immediately after the pandemic. I'm sure it will come back, but the 2019 unrest really targeted mainlanders (regardless of how appropriate or inappropriate you believe that mindset to be).
It doesn't matter, as long as Hong Kong belongs to China. You should know that there are more than 20 million people in Shenzhen and more than one billion in Guangdong.
@@canto_v12 targeting anyone isn't appropriate
@@canto_v12 now the foreign high end brand worshipping had toned down in the mainland.... no more glory days in HK
Hong kongers are travelling to Shenzhen I'm train loads for cheaper shopping... It goes the other way
Can HK be independent like Taiwan?
Hong kong lost its independent
Not
Like taiwan
Eso les pasa por creer en la democracia.
Imo, this does benefit efficiency between hong kong and mainland, but what im worried about is hong kong's culture and language is being rewritten (replaced) by mainland's. it would be nice to have diverse cultures.
If you tour around different cities within China, languages, culture and food are different. Some of my older relatives who live in rural guangdong can only speak basic mandarin. They communicate in cantonese and hakka (both spoken especially cantonese) in Hong kong. Hong Kong has a unique history. The influence of Britain will diminish but Hong Kong's culture such as cantonese and cuisines will remain.
@@mmhcc9907 Actually, many of China's regional languages and cultures are either being exterminated or endangered because of CCP rule.
@@aureamediocritas7357 Actually, most of World's regional languages and cultures are either being exterminated or endangered because of Western colonial rule. 🤓👆
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@@megagigapunch5708 Would you just look at a simple fact? HK (and along with Taiwan) is among the few places where authentic Chinese culture, virtue, religion, etc is being preserved, as well as keeping the traditional chinese characters. HK is held as the modern fountain of Cantonese culture and the only place where the Cantonese language is still fully alive. All of this is because of the so called "Western colonial rule"!
Quite sad really, to see how Hong Kong has changed in the past 10 years
China having rooted the UK/US agents and most of their ability to interfere and meddle is cause for celebration.
The cost of change in hk compare to the change in US and in UK: no zombiland and tent cities in hk. 😂😂😂
@@walhdamaskus2408 I do agree the US is in a rather terrible state
That’s your problem
Most people in HK are happy to see the change. The happiest thing people in HK love to see in the last 10 years is to have the national security law - rule 23 just implemented in 2023. This national security law has prevented the city being destroyed by rioters who are funded and orchestrated by foreign powers.
I mean it was china's city afterall??? the british took it from them and now its theirs so whats the problem
roc's city
@@jol166 Roc lost the civil war.
@@ensteffo reality check for you, ROC still exists. 🤡
it was swampland before the british took it and transformed it into one of the greatest cities in the world. now china wants it back after britain improved it
@@robertbenitez3647 well said
It's a shame what has happend to Hong Kong. A reduction of civil liberties, rule of law and independent judiciary.
Are you praising the coup launched by the United States?
Let's not pretend Britain was or will ever be capable of rule of law.
What reduction? In 1967, 50 HK'ers died and the British arrested 5000 people for protesting.
So, China wants Hong Kong to look like Winnie the Pooh? 😁😁😆😆
0:25 no, Hong Kong showed something much more brilliant than that. It demonstrated how economic freedom can transform a small fishing village into a global powerhouse. It showed that free market capitalism is the most potent economic system for improving the standard of living of an entire society.
it wasnt a fishing village. It just had fishing because it was near the sea. Hong kong has always been an important trading post but business took it to a higher level
What, the cage homes?
if it was just a fishing village it wouldn't have been a colony.
@@levelaznSo?? They had already many cities in the mainland!! HK is just a place in China's territory. Do you even know the history of NYC?? It was called New Amsterdam, few centuries ago!!
Shenzhen: yep
The American flags during the protest is one of the weirdest things.
With only 20 years of the transition period left. It makes sense China would start making incremental changes to Hong Kong so it would eventually integrate smoothly into the rest of China. You can't seriously expect them to change absolutely nothing for 50 years, and then boom instantly dissolve all political, financial, and transport systems overnight when the time is up.
Makes total sense. How can they see improving transport between HK and mainland as a bad thing?
@@goeleal1520muh democracy ✡️
... and why not?!? Eventually, in the 50 years, a gradual transition needs to be planned and implemented. Unification in all aspects can't be done overnight then.
Mind you, even for the Brits, essentially they didn't bother to democratise HK in the early 95 years of colonial rule. All power was centralised by UK. Only in the last years, under Patten, did they democratise and changed the rules to limited areas for self rule, most likely to throw a spanner in the works knowing full well that China was taking over ... seems that people have short memories and forgot this colonial attitude 😅!
Oh no! China is remaking Hong Kong (which is part of China & 95% ethnically Chinese) in its own image! 😂
The hypocrisy is unreal. 😮
This
Bing Kong will never be the same again. Many left during the take over.
Canada freezes bank account of protester. A country right next to america 😂
nice try china bot
@@TheChaosblock We are patriots. We love China! Hong Kong is one part of China and it is impossible to separete it from China. You west countries are losing the cold war against China. Hahaha!
@TheChaosblock He is right tho😂
so glad didn't stay and moved to UK
Bs!
That National Security Law + Covid... did a number on HK... and I am sad that this happened, since China didn't keep their word on the 50 years of 1 country 2 systems...
It's still 2 systems, but it' s really up to China. The land is theirs. HK belongs to China not the UK or the western media circus.
That is false. The 1997 Basic Law (constitution) states in article 23, that Hong Kong "shall enact laws on its own to prohibit any act of treason, secession, sedition, subversion against the Central People's Government". It always was the law.
The western worries cz they can not colonize the HK anymore, i think that is the main message of this video
The west worries because a population is getting less rights and is being unlawfully taken over by a dictatorship
HK 🇭🇰 was returned to China in 1997, it’s been 27yrs already. What western worry are you taking about?
@@DarylSpykerman Read the history on it and then come back. It’s not my job to educate brainwashed people.
@@_Ank33_ you don’t know much do you
@@DarylSpykerman did you read the history? Comment when you have read it and try not to make pointless remarks.
How dare China make one of its cities look like one of its cities!!
Let Hong Kong citizens thread their own path and shape their own city... not the UK, not mainland China, not the West.
Yeah, I agree. It’s called “Self Determination” and if you mention it to half of the comments on here you’ll not get a response because they’re bots
@@jinxedpenguin Hong kong is part of china. This as absurd as saying goa have the right to do whatever they want
Except it is back to being part of China as it was prior to the British invasion.
@@testacals You can think it is absurd but, yeah, they should. So should Texans if they want to leave the US lol.
@@jinxedpenguin What you are suggesting eventually lead to infinite regression.
How UK Is Remaking Northern Ireland and Scotland in Its Own Image
As a scottish independence activist, legit, but still a whataboutism irrelevant to the video's subject.
@Game_Hero UK? More like israel
@@longiusaescius2537 a whataboutism to reply to a comment replying about a whataboutism.
Yeah, under British rule, Hong Kong didn't have democracy, but people had all sorts of freedoms. No one would get jailed just for saying a few slogans, unlike under the Chinese Communist Party.
When the British were in charge, Hong Kong turned into an international city, a financial hub, and the most prosperous place in Asia.
But today, under the Chinese Communist Party, Hong Kong has lost all its advantages. The stock market has been surpassed by Taiwan and India, foreign investments are pulling out, and lots of social elites are leaving. This city is dying.
im sure that hkers were allowed to insult the queen or the brits right?
The British did several massacres throughout the occupation against Chinese people who protested for their freedom from the colonists.
@@ensteffo Oh SEVERAL massacres? Are we talking about something similar like 1989 Tiananmen square massacre?
size of stock market is not a measure of success or lack there of
It will suffer a financial collapse ...
HK must be Independent just like SG.
How China is remaking China
pretty much
Territories are social structures, not places. You do realize Hong Kong has an indigenous population, and not the Han colonizers, like Yue people such as the Tanka speakers (who have gone extinct and been completely assimilated, and are a tiny statistical minority). The Yue languages are not mutually intelligible with other Chinese languages, they are as difference as Hebrew and Arabic are from one another.
The early inhabitants were Austronesians, then Yue people, then the Qin dynasty conquered the indigenous Baiyue. Most of the early Han population were settlers from nearby provinces that migrated to Kowloon throughout the Ming dynasty
After the Qing conquest of Hong Kong in the 17th century, the population of most of the area forming present day Hong Kong was cleared under the Great Clearance, turning the region into a wasteland. Then most Han settlement occurred after it became a British colony.
@@jameswitzen7487 That doesn't change the fact that hong kong was taken from China. The US and the west would never allow any of their territories to be taken away like what they did to hk. Also what you said can be applied to the west, especially the US.
@@jameswitzen7487 LOL what revisionist fiction is this?? HK was a handful of tiny fishing villages at concession to UK. It was popular to Britian because it was so sparsely populated it was a successful smuggling point. The population grew out of successive waves of migration from China and the British Empire. There people were THEN insocrtrinated under a Colonial Dictatorship into a British administration and culture. HK is a Colonial Settler Culture on Chinese land of Chinese people.
@@fuethao8633 what happened in Beijing in 1989 again
"Seems we are losing our war in MidEast"
"Time to play the Hongkong Card"
What war in the Middle East?
@@darshanchung Prob talking abt the Israel-Palestine Conflict. And I suppose they made this video in relation to the recent law change in both Macau and Hong Kong on a stronger, more restrictive National Security Law.
@@WonwooDo but who is the “we” who is losing our war in the Middle East?
@@darshanchung I suppose its the Western governments, UK in this case, supporting Israel
@@WonwooDo are they losing? Against whom? The hamas?
How about Bloomberg reporting about how native Americans is remaking in its own image? I’m sure that will be interesting
Propagation of disinformation and propaganda as usual
That was conquest. The “native” Americans were not native. They displaced each other and had no permanent land of their own nor a woking institutionalised society like HK. In the past you die not have international laws. Today however, you do.
A giant irrelevant whataboutism for a subject they talk a lot, because that's what a newspaper do, they cover the world, at home and elsewhere.
Hong Kong was remade to a British colony. What is the difference now?
what's the difference? you must be blind. hope your next life will be born in Communist China to enjoy your happy life,
Sounds like you want to remain second class citizen in a colony!
The only difference is that now China flag fly beside the HK flag, can't see any British flag flying gone with the wind.
How dare you compare the Chinese Communist Party to imperial colonists?
NED Agents
You are right. This so-called news article is propaganda and full of lies. How is throwing petrol bombs and burning the shops of Mainland immigrants Democracy? Beijing offered Hong Kong democracy in 2019 and it was rejected. In 2019 things just went wild and there is no way Beijing will trust Hong Kong again.
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agree
or people supporting the rights of people to elect their leader and protest as they wish, idk
@@Game_Hero Beijing offered Hong Kong people the right to elect our own leader. The Democratic Party voted down greater democracy!
Another day. Another Bloomberg Cry 😭😭
US regime mouthpiece
" HK effort in remaking China in its own image had fail" is the driving force behind all these street protests.
Have you seen the recent riots in the UK?
I think the democracy people in Hong Kong just follow the example of red guard in China
wow who would have thought that a place with 1000s of years of Chinese history would resemble China?
There is no such thing as future in this dying city
It is the Asia century
The domination of the world by the western power has already end
My family was treated like 2nd class citizens in their own home city by the British. Their home was taken from them and they had no rights. And British have the nerve to say that they were better off then. Hong Kong is and always was China. Just because the British colonised Hong Kong doesn't mean that all of the sudden it wasn't China. It was China under foreign occupation.
y u lying doe
it was never your family's home. it was swampland before the british built a port and infrastructure. THEN your family moved there. if you want to reap the benefits of someone else's work you need you abide by their rules.
@@iamthelaw69 Say what you want. I don't care what a fool has to say.
@@robertbenitez3647 Yes because you know. 🙄
This is is a silly argument. 'China' is a modern territorial-colonial construct, and the People's Republic of China was formed long after the British colony of Hong Kong. And most Han settlement and colonization in the region, while occurring after the Qing conquest of Hong Kong, was mostly in the British era.
"How the UK remade Liverpool in its own image"
I notice most comments are from Chinese bots. Typical...
Anyone who doesn't agrees with your narrative is a bot hunn?
@@harrypothead4575it’s the universal truth, take your 5 cents and go home buddy
Self-introduction？
Ok Sleepy Joe
@@fantasticciki7877the only people care about 5 cents is you
if you look at any other cities in china, HK feels very abandoned, zero progress and development, it was like a ghost town there
In what sense? It’s one of the most developed cities in Asia…
Lol say that to any main Chinese cities 🤣
are you serious?
Was just in HK for a week two weeks ago. The city is a lot cleaner now than it was in 2003 when I last went. The air is clean. You can lean on walls and handrails and not be covered in soot like it would have been 20 years ago. Granted it was slower. Restaurants weren't full and hotel prices were quite low. The hustle and bustle is now a calm but still diverse city. Bus drivers used to race each other for the right to merge and vehicles had the right or way. Now drivers are quite respectful of pedestrians which was a nice change.
I guess those with BNO passport must be enjoy their freedom in UK .
You're entitled to your opinion, but the overwhelming visitor flow from Hong Kong to Chinese mainland every weekend seems to indicate otherwise. Not all visitors agree with China's politics and policies, and they're still doing fine when crossing borders.
"Hong Kong is becoming 'similar' to any other city in the mainland" duhhhhh as if the cities in the mainland are all alike hahahaha The differences between Beijing and Shanghai, for instance, are as pronounced as those between Shenzhen and Hong Kong 🤷🤷
I think China cities are a lot better than HK
@@SimonCU in many cases today, yes.
Yeah it is a typical elitist racism. it is so ingrained in them they don't even realize.
@@SimonCU In terms of progressive development, absolutely, Shenzhen and Shanghai are more visionary than Hong Kong. HK still has some unmatched street life, especially in the older areas with small "mom-and-pop" shops. The old school atmosphere is amazing.
Americans unfortunately tend to think all Asians look alike...
I think people are vastly underestimating how much harder it has become to do business in HK for international businesses in the past few years.
Expats don't want to go. Information security is so onerous as to be prohibitive (my firm makes me hand in my laptop and phone and pick up local clean+restricted ones in HK if I need to be there, even for personal business). The pervasive sense of constant surveillance and the speed at which the surveillance is escalating. Being legally counseled out of entire industries (I am a management consultant and we're voluntarily withdrawing from a lot of industries because it has gotten physically dangerous for us to do even very basic due diligence on stuff like executive pay... which apparently gets too close to CCP corruption).
HK is dying as a global financial center way faster than people anticipated. Chinese money will keep it afloat for a while but even within China there are competing interests from Shanghai/Shenzhen that actually want to replace HK as the premier financial center in China.
there were 2000+ ppl. in Hong Kong's US consulate. Now it's only less a 1000 left after the National Security Laws. What have the 1000 Americans been doing?
Lol what have the Chinese been doing?
@@Unfamiliar_Fruit Promogated the Hong Kong National Security Laws which the US 3-letter org so hated.
Those are not in "Democracy" favor; those are in separatism favor fueled by EEUU and UK.
Rioting is not democracy! What I teach my child at home is a family business!
Remaking? Turning it into a political, economic and social basket case isn’t ‘remaking’ it’s just destruction. That’s why so many investors have left. Why would Taiwan want to even consider joining China having seen how Hong Kong a once vibrant beacon of Asia has been trashed. So much talent and investment has left Hong Kong for other countries like Singapore.
funny I don't see HK a basketcase today. In fact I'd argue its much nicer now than in 2019
Finally the millions of honest, hardworking HKers gets a chance to own a property when the exorbitant prices comes down. HK is turning into a place where regular people can live, instead of a place for low taxes on the rich, and heaven for crimes.
@@DubboU I honestly doubt whether you've had a look at the mortgages that people are still having to pay off in 2024. Just because prices fall doesn't mean it's affordable. Look at the data and stop living in a fantasy.
@@DubboU lol, less investment equals less development, less jobs, lower paying jobs, poorer infrastructure and so on. It’s this kind of anti-investment kind of thinking that keeps people like you poor.
You can learn about how Li Ka-shing and the British government behind him harvested the wealth of ordinary people in Hong Kong, and then discuss how this mess came about.
People who forget their roots are GONE people ! SAD , SAD , SAD !
Hong Kong soul is Chinese. The worst is losing your soul, then it’s just the dead walking.
The British held HK for centuries. They didnt give HK democracy. why? No one seemed to complain. All their senior officials were appointed.
Now that its gone back to China suddenly the people want democracy. why? You can see its being stirred from outside.
If you are not doing anything wrong or illegal why should you be scared of the extradition bill?
We all know the British would've have eventually given Hong Kong independence just like all their other colonies or at least given them a referendum. Would China do the same hmmm?
Why didn't the British give Hong Kong independence by 1997? Because of the 99 year lease. There was no point giving independence just for it to be gobbled up by its neighbour.
@@MrCorky911 Give independence? so you think these things are gifts gave by benevolent imperial masters? Or you are dishonest or you need study history alot more. Not a single Brit colony recieved independence freely. Best example is India.
Britain did not have democracy 100s of years ago.
@@elainetamika4822 Singapore got its independent through negotiation with British. If British didn't sign the lease with Qing China they sure can give Hong Kong their independence as they had win Hong Kong from Qing China. If not for the lease I believe part of China occupied by Eight-Nation Alliance may had been independent from their colony countries.
Goes, the differences are big and massive, HK China economy is progressing while England is shrinking
Lying
😂😂@@ailo8964
Due to the hongkongese people efforts, not England, not China (in fact, in spite of these two)
@@Game_Hero Hongkongers are Chinese from China, and, without China supplying water to HK in the 60s, Hongkongers would not have survived the drought!! 飲水思源！
@@AL-sj2dx Hongkongers are hongkongers from Hong Kong as they say so, period. So what if it got supplied water, doesn't change a thing about what I said.
Looking at HKG, it’s amazed to see how China can ruin a place in such a short time. Hong Kong was comparable to New York , and now even Detroit has a brighter future. Brilliant work China.
Lol keep telling yourself that.
HK is still amazing just look at any YTer who visits and vlogs from there.
Workers in Hong-Kong does not earn enough money to live decently in Hong-Kong. Many Chinese cross the border to work there and go back to mainland China everyday. I am sure this phenomenon will get fixed in the next years.
It’s amazing how much effort the Chinese government paid to a TH-cam comment section, all these standardised model answers are so cheesy, no one talks like that in real life😂 not even the pinkies 😂😂
The people of HK have lost their rights and freedoms, they no longer have any say in their government and the HK economy is tanking.
So many homeless in the Western World. Focus on your own problems instead of trying to destabilize China.
+100 social credits
@@Ducktility +100 homeless + refugees
@@kingyang728 Tiananmen square
Philadelphia homeless zombie 😅😅😅
So many jobless people in China. Focus on your own problems instead of invading others