I watched an interesting ergometer test of a national rowing team athlete who was so burnt out from overtraining he took 6 months off with zero testing. He did the test as a benchmark for re entering training and had the best result he’d ever achieved. He went on to be the stroke for an 8 that won an Olympic gold medal.
Heat management and training seems like a great place to seek gains. Just as the texture of bodysuits is being optimized for aero I think there a lot of potential gains in the surface texture of the bike and tires.
This is an interesting conversation I had with one of the team at core heat sensors. Be interested to hear your thoughts on it th-cam.com/video/2EiTrSQId5c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0zpx2F9qFFB5KhGz
The further evolution of Unbound will be with teams and team tactics. A couple riders up the road? Put a domestique or two on the front to bring them back.
Ehhh. I think any more than a couple teammates will end up being logistically unfeasible. There's just too many selections in the race and too much stochasticity.
Many athletes had their best results of their careers during pandemics when they weren't training as hard as they were used to. There's a fine line between hard training and overtraining, and top athletes tend to lean towards the later.
I think that's why Jonas hit his best numbers ever in this year's Tour. The enforced time off earlier in the year probably allowed the body some recovery time he didn't know he needed.
Scott M's mom told me about Bonk Bros so I gave it a listen, but I just can't binge them - I feel like I am listening to Beavis and Butthead 😵💫, but I have always like Dylan by himself and here ...
I actually sent that theory to the bonk bro podcast for Dylan to comment. I believe his sickness and forced long rest before unbound was the key to his success.
I was talking to a young Emporia native a day or two before the race this year and Dylan's name came up - he said essentially that his videos are fun but he never finishes near the top 😀And this kid has won the SS category in the past ... way to vindicate yourself Dylan!
Is Allen Lim making drinking sound complicated to sell stuff? Ive not had hydration problems just drinking to thirst with wildly different concentrations
The "heat as altitude" part probably is wrong. You can't substitute altitude with heat. With altitude you gain red blood cell as a response to oxygen depletion, basically it's like taking EPO but legally. However with heat you get none. You just adapt to sweat more, and maybe some blood volume increase but not the red blood cell that actually matters. Your hearts beats faster at the same effort or even the same RPE, you might get more used to an elevated heart rate but that's it. Depends on your training status you might get more training of the heart itself as a muscle that is working harder, but more likely you'll risk detraining because your overall intensity would decrease. Even with real altitude you risk that too, there are some very good scientific literatures about "live low train high vs. live high train high vs. live high train low vs live low train low". And the results are very interesting that the best approach is actually live high train low -- you train at sea level at your full capacity, take a lift or a car to altitude (2000m above) to sleep to get the legal dose of altitude EPO, repeat. Probably you guys are not very often exposed to extreme altitude and extreme heat, so you think they are similar. No they are not. Heat adaptation is critical especially if you race/training in the heat but it's nothing like the altitude.
I haven't read about heat training, but I guess heat training would acclimatise body more thus allowing the heart to pump less ? Thus saving energy . Heat in general as in a higher body temperature is very debilitating to whole body requiring heart and other organs to work harder . So my guess heat training can save the body energy and also reduce the inflammation damage to body on race day. . I think I've seen the riders wear ice pack vests after a racing.
heat raises blood volume and then red blood cells follow, a relatively newly understood phenomenon being leveraged more often now. difficult to leverage as heat also reduces intensity so working it into overall training program takes care of
Regarding heat...I heard somewhere that a lot of the in-lab human performance testing on cyclists in the 70s and 80s were likely heat-limited because they were not providing sufficient cooling of the athletes being tested. If that is true, doesn't that make a lot of the research results of that era questionable?
You need to do an interview with Backwards Hat Dylan
“If I can take out Van Der Poel in this turn I can at least get DQ’d rather than getting smoked by him”
Passed him on the bike path
Honey GET UP. Dylan is talking about Unbound and tires again
Bread.
And
Butter.
😂😂😂😂
I hope backwards cap Dylan was also interviewed :-)
I watched an interesting ergometer test of a national rowing team athlete who was so burnt out from overtraining he took 6 months off with zero testing. He did the test as a benchmark for re entering training and had the best result he’d ever achieved. He went on to be the stroke for an 8 that won an Olympic gold medal.
Who was the rower? I rowed in college and suffered from burnout and find this fascinating.
i imagine 6 months off was not entirely off but just training chill
I could listen to gravel tire talk from now until I’m turned into ash when the nukes hit. I think even my ash would want to hear gravel tire talk. 🤤
Heat management and training seems like a great place to seek gains.
Just as the texture of bodysuits is being optimized for aero I think there a lot of potential gains in the surface texture of the bike and tires.
This is an interesting conversation I had with one of the team at core heat sensors. Be interested to hear your thoughts on it th-cam.com/video/2EiTrSQId5c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0zpx2F9qFFB5KhGz
The further evolution of Unbound will be with teams and team tactics. A couple riders up the road? Put a domestique or two on the front to bring them back.
Ehhh. I think any more than a couple teammates will end up being logistically unfeasible. There's just too many selections in the race and too much stochasticity.
Great conversation, thanks to both you and Dylan.
Thanks for tuning in 🙌
Many athletes had their best results of their careers during pandemics when they weren't training as hard as they were used to. There's a fine line between hard training and overtraining, and top athletes tend to lean towards the later.
Coincidentally when drug testing was basically non-existent.
I think that's why Jonas hit his best numbers ever in this year's Tour. The enforced time off earlier in the year probably allowed the body some recovery time he didn't know he needed.
Zone 2 is king! Everyone stuck on intervals!
It's so nice to have a Bonk Bros.pod with out all the bullshit
Dylan can talk tires without being harassed 😊😅
Scott M's mom told me about Bonk Bros so I gave it a listen, but I just can't binge them - I feel like I am listening to Beavis and Butthead 😵💫, but I have always like Dylan by himself and here ...
the bullshit and the banter is the best part
@@theaxeman37the banter makes the show
32:30.... the question asked starts to get answered.
I actually sent that theory to the bonk bro podcast for Dylan to comment. I believe his sickness and forced long rest before unbound was the key to his success.
Great content, think I might have seen you in Enniskerry on the weekend? Me and my mate were out on the MTB's
Very possibly. Give us a shout next time
I was talking to a young Emporia native a day or two before the race this year and Dylan's name came up - he said essentially that his videos are fun but he never finishes near the top 😀And this kid has won the SS category in the past ... way to vindicate yourself Dylan!
Dude kinda reminds me of Obree in terms of thinking outside the box and being a pioneer.
Lol not even close
If Dill manufactered his own bike, and won unbound, then yeah maybe.
Dan Bingham is the new Obree
Only if he started using washing machine bearings
Without the suicide attempts
Great interview. Thank you
thanks for tuning in pal
284 normalised for 9hrs for 70kgs is insane 😮
Is Allen Lim making drinking sound complicated to sell stuff? Ive not had hydration problems just drinking to thirst with wildly different concentrations
The "heat as altitude" part probably is wrong. You can't substitute altitude with heat. With altitude you gain red blood cell as a response to oxygen depletion, basically it's like taking EPO but legally. However with heat you get none. You just adapt to sweat more, and maybe some blood volume increase but not the red blood cell that actually matters. Your hearts beats faster at the same effort or even the same RPE, you might get more used to an elevated heart rate but that's it. Depends on your training status you might get more training of the heart itself as a muscle that is working harder, but more likely you'll risk detraining because your overall intensity would decrease. Even with real altitude you risk that too, there are some very good scientific literatures about "live low train high vs. live high train high vs. live high train low vs live low train low". And the results are very interesting that the best approach is actually live high train low -- you train at sea level at your full capacity, take a lift or a car to altitude (2000m above) to sleep to get the legal dose of altitude EPO, repeat. Probably you guys are not very often exposed to extreme altitude and extreme heat, so you think they are similar. No they are not. Heat adaptation is critical especially if you race/training in the heat but it's nothing like the altitude.
Worth a listen for you th-cam.com/video/2EiTrSQId5c/w-d-xo.html
I haven't read about heat training, but I guess heat training would acclimatise body more thus allowing the heart to pump less ? Thus saving energy . Heat in general as in a higher body temperature is very debilitating to whole body requiring heart and other organs to work harder . So my guess heat training can save the body energy and also reduce the inflammation damage to body on race day. . I think I've seen the riders wear ice pack vests after a racing.
Dylan said - raising blood volume.
heat raises blood volume and then red blood cells follow, a relatively newly understood phenomenon being leveraged more often now. difficult to leverage as heat also reduces intensity so working it into overall training program takes care of
I would say Keegan and Matt Beers were overcooked for Unbound. Maybe they found their upper limit for volume?
4:23 is the nugget of truth. DJ can win races at this level if he believes he can.
Regarding heat...I heard somewhere that a lot of the in-lab human performance testing on cyclists in the 70s and 80s were likely heat-limited because they were not providing sufficient cooling of the athletes being tested. If that is true, doesn't that make a lot of the research results of that era questionable?
Watch the world tour guys running the narrow bars. They're all chicken winging. Which tells me that they'd be faster on slightly wider bars
2018 9th place
Very much a less stacked field back then..
He also got that abscess last fall, what caused it?
Training and racing in dusty gravel, you must breathe in all kinds of stuff. Can't help that either 🤔
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Yea. My nose is stuffed AF after RAGBRAI 😂
What do you think of the Irish immigration problem?
There is none….we are immigrants
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wider is better.....thats what she said
"concentration of electrolytes in your balls" ...whaaaaaaat???!!!! :)