My 2010 Dell tower started to act up so I contacted my son in law with a masters in CS for advice. I never heard of the NUC and I bought the NUC7i5BNK. I use it with a 7 port powered USB3 hub. I am very pleased with it. I am especially pleased with how cool it runs. I had some trouble getting the software for my HP Scanjet 2000S1 to work with Win 10 but I eventually got it to go good enough. Everything including some softwaref from the late 90s it working fine. I am quite happy with it. It was not the cheapest solution out there but I am satisfied with the value I got.
Some pointers: * Ensure that you focus things you want people to see... * Fix your sound there is a noice in the background that makes my ears implode!
I do apologize for the focus issues. I have been thinking of getting a new camera since I am doing a lot more of these "First Looks" now. I didn't notice the sound issue you mention, but the audio is from the camera's built-in microphone so I will look at using a real mic if the new camera has a poor one like this camera does. Thank you for the comment.
The H model also does not support TOSLINK, this is a mistake in the documentation. I have notified Intel's technical team and will be following up with them.
Intel's spec page lists the 7th gen NUCs as having a combo speaker/toslink audio jack on the back, but clearly that does not appear to be so. Some clarification from Intel would be nice.
I have notified Intel's technical team as to this documentation error. Thank you, and the others who have pointed this out. TOSLINK seems to be something they put into the Celeron (and previously the Pentium) products but has not been put into the "Core" products yet. Also, while the Pentium and Celeron have SD Card slots, the Core versions have MicroSD card slots.
holy shit, 4k monitors on such a device! that's amazing. Since the connectors for sata are on the motherboard, would it be possible to cram a 2.5 inch sata ssd in there?
There are currently no plans for a Gen 7 Kaby Lake Skull Canyon replacement. We have mentioned to Intel to maintain the higher wattage 4x8 chassis, which they seem to agree to. We will continue to encourage them to plan for a Gen 8 4x8 Quad-Core i7 refresh later this year. I think there will always be a place for a higher wattage, Quad-Core i7, but sales are not as good as the 4x4 Dual-Core i7s. I think this is because in this space, small size dominates the higher performance of the 4x8
Can the i5 CPU be upgraded to an i5 or i7? I found an i3 (manuf. 2019) NUC in a dumpster to-day. I haven't tested it yet, but opening the case reveals that a 250GB NVMe is mounted & two RAM cards are installed. Not sure if the RAM size. This is the 2nd NUC I have found!
Charles, those in the video are 2 x 4 GB Ram or 2 x 8 GB Ram. Do you think that a total of 8 GB Ram could be enough? Or need 16+... Thank you for your answer
Howdy Juan. These are 2 x 16 GB DIMMs for a total of 32GB. If you order 4GB, you will get a single 4GB DIMM. If you order 8GB, 16GB, or 32GB, then you will get a matched pair of DIMMs. The 32GB option also gives you gaming DIMM upgrade. The 32GB option is Dual-Channel, Dual-Rank, Dual-Bank. For a Core i3 Product, I would say that 8GB (2 x 4GB DIMMs) should be sufficient. All versions of the SATA SSDs are Quad-Channel, so the performance is much better than "economy SSDs" with writes around 300MB/s on the 128GB and up to 520MB/s on the 512GB. Reads are from 440MB/s to 540MB/s The OS (Linux or Windows 10) are modified to work properly with SSDs and contain no Adware, Bloatware, and Post-Sale Revenue software, just a clean OS install. Hope that answers your questions, if not feel free to ask more.
We have been testing a nVidia 1070 card with an eGFX box and had much better than expected results. Our testing is with the Skull Canyon, but we expect to test with the Gen 7 Core-i5 as well this week.
If you had 4 USB external hard drives connected to this device at the same time, but only 1 external drive would be used at a time, would this be fine or would you still recommend an external hub?
We use multiple brands of High-Performance SSDs based on best performance for the cost. All are Dual- or Quad-Channel, and even the 128GB has read speeds in the 480Mbps+ and writes in the 300Mbps or more. The 512GB has speeds closer to the max performance of the SATA3 link, with writes over 480Mbps. We also offer PCIe SSDs (most are NVMe Flash based). Recently we tested an OEM version of the 256GB Samsung and hit sustained writes of over 1Gbps and reads over 2.8Gbps. We expect the 1TB version of this SSD to read at the max PCIe rate of around 3.8Gbps, and the writes to be around 2Gbps
Yes you can run a second monitor with this as well as the 8th gen from the Thunderbolt port. You might want to check the adapter you were using which may be the cause of it not working.
The 6th Gen i5 got a CPU mark of 4754 and the 7th gen i3 got a CPU mark of 4182 in our testing, so they are pretty close based on the benchmark 572 point difference
Thank you for your answer!!!! They are pretty close based on that numbers... but it is probably wise to wait for the 7th generation of i5... What do you think?
Yes, All NUCs come with the processor soldered down. If you buy from others, typically the RAM, SSD and OS is not included. If you buy from Simply NUC we include all of those plus warranty and technical support.
The only thing aim missing is a remote control, ok i understand you must work with a mouse and keyboard, but my Zotac AD10 is almost the same thingy has a remote control, now i must buy some usb remote control to control as a media player!!
hey buddy, Intel NUC Kit NUC7i3BNHX1 2017 Mini PC (Core i3-7100U Processor/16GB Optane Memory/Integrated Graphics), Grey i am interested in buying this product and want to know after getting it i have to install ram and ssd things or this will be pre-insatlled ?
Hello Neeraj. If you use this link you can select the RAM, SSD and OS that you would like to have installed in that system. If you select 16GB Optane as your primary SSD it will be the same as this BNHX1 model you are asking about. www.simplynuc.com/7i3bnh-full/
Yes. It comes with wifi and can easily run dual monitors. Our systems ship with RAM, SSD and OS installed and come with technical support as well. If you just purchase a NUC online somewhere else it will not have RAM or SSD.
Pffff, i7....but ULV, meaning it has not much in common with a traditional desktop i7...it's comparable to my oldold i5 4570R sitting in Gigabyte Brix box.
My 2010 Dell tower started to act up so I contacted my son in law with a masters in CS for advice. I never heard of the NUC and I bought the NUC7i5BNK. I use it with a 7 port powered USB3 hub. I am very pleased with it. I am especially pleased with how cool it runs. I had some trouble getting the software for my HP Scanjet 2000S1 to work with Win 10 but I eventually got it to go good enough. Everything including some softwaref from the late 90s it working fine. I am quite happy with it. It was not the cheapest solution out there but I am satisfied with the value I got.
When you say 20W in operation, you forgot to mention idle which is the most important spec cause this media center mini pc's often run 24/7
Thanks for the informative video. But the out of focus thing is giving me headache.
Some pointers:
* Ensure that you focus things you want people to see...
* Fix your sound there is a noice in the background that makes my ears implode!
I do apologize for the focus issues. I have been thinking of getting a new camera since I am doing a lot more of these "First Looks" now.
I didn't notice the sound issue you mention, but the audio is from the camera's built-in microphone so I will look at using a real mic if the new camera has a poor one like this camera does. Thank you for the comment.
Its like a high pitch noice, i watched the whole thing any way but get a new mic if you can my head almost exploded :P
Jason Wiese, you're right. I guess the TOSLINK output is for the "H" models with the bay for HDD.
The H model also does not support TOSLINK, this is a mistake in the documentation. I have notified Intel's technical team and will be following up with them.
great review! I just updated to the late visualbios and the option for UASP has disappeared! is it no longer supported?
Intel's spec page lists the 7th gen NUCs as having a combo speaker/toslink audio jack on the back, but clearly that does not appear to be so. Some clarification from Intel would be nice.
I have notified Intel's technical team as to this documentation error. Thank you, and the others who have pointed this out. TOSLINK seems to be something they put into the Celeron (and previously the Pentium) products but has not been put into the "Core" products yet. Also, while the Pentium and Celeron have SD Card slots, the Core versions have MicroSD card slots.
So you just couldn't show what else was in the box? I am wondering if there is a SATA power cable inside
there is no fan inside?
Did you say Baby Canyon??
Ccoolty yes, that's what it's called
have you seen that on the top cover there's 2 marks on the back... like it was meant to be disassembled? have you tried it? just noticed on mine today
can you please comment on the noise level for the new i5 and i7 models ? thanks !
No IR receiver?
holy shit, 4k monitors on such a device! that's amazing. Since the connectors for sata are on the motherboard, would it be possible to cram a 2.5 inch sata ssd in there?
are there any new intel compute sticks coming up on 2017?
The new nuc's have hdmi 2.0 , for hdr you need a 2.0a port.. Is there some sort of bios update avalible to get that hdr signal ?
Can someone explain how to "daisy chain" 3 monitors to a single port? Is there an external component to I need to use?
any word on a skull cannon revision with the Kaby lake processors?
There are currently no plans for a Gen 7 Kaby Lake Skull Canyon replacement.
We have mentioned to Intel to maintain the higher wattage 4x8 chassis, which they seem to agree to. We will continue to encourage them to plan for a Gen 8 4x8 Quad-Core i7 refresh later this year. I think there will always be a place for a higher wattage, Quad-Core i7, but sales are not as good as the 4x4 Dual-Core i7s.
I think this is because in this space, small size dominates the higher performance of the 4x8
If it's same motherboard of i5 can we upgrade the CPU
Can the i5 CPU be upgraded to an i5 or i7? I found an i3 (manuf. 2019) NUC in a dumpster to-day. I haven't tested it yet, but opening the case reveals that a 250GB NVMe is mounted & two RAM cards are installed. Not sure if the RAM size. This is the 2nd NUC I have found!
Charles, those in the video are 2 x 4 GB Ram or 2 x 8 GB Ram. Do you think that a total of 8 GB Ram could be enough? Or need 16+... Thank you for your answer
Howdy Juan. These are 2 x 16 GB DIMMs for a total of 32GB. If you order 4GB, you will get a single 4GB DIMM. If you order 8GB, 16GB, or 32GB, then you will get a matched pair of DIMMs. The 32GB option also gives you gaming DIMM upgrade. The 32GB option is Dual-Channel, Dual-Rank, Dual-Bank.
For a Core i3 Product, I would say that 8GB (2 x 4GB DIMMs) should be sufficient.
All versions of the SATA SSDs are Quad-Channel, so the performance is much better than "economy SSDs" with writes around 300MB/s on the 128GB and up to 520MB/s on the 512GB. Reads are from 440MB/s to 540MB/s
The OS (Linux or Windows 10) are modified to work properly with SSDs and contain no Adware, Bloatware, and Post-Sale Revenue software, just a clean OS install.
Hope that answers your questions, if not feel free to ask more.
The external graphics card possibility is interesting have you done any videos trying it with a small pc like this?
We have. We will get a video up soon with our findings.
We have been testing a nVidia 1070 card with an eGFX box and had much better than expected results. Our testing is with the Skull Canyon, but we expect to test with the Gen 7 Core-i5 as well this week.
If you had 4 USB external hard drives connected to this device at the same time, but only 1 external drive would be used at a time, would this be fine or would you still recommend an external hub?
would 128GB m.2 be enough for just Win10 and not much other programs? All my data will be on an ext drive. I only use it for KODI, surfing and BT
Yes our Windows 10 image uses less than 20GB.
Win 10 should only take about 20-22GB of the 128GB drive.
How does this compare to a Mac Mini?
David Connelly yes absolutely
Simply NUC, will there be a new Intel Skull Canyon NUC coming out this year as well ?
Not that we can discuss. Please subscribe and you will be the first to know. ;-)
can it be connected with 10 users
Cool video,
what kind/brand is the hard drive/m.2 ? sounds like it's pretty fast.
We use multiple brands of High-Performance SSDs based on best performance for the cost. All are Dual- or Quad-Channel, and even the 128GB has read speeds in the 480Mbps+ and writes in the 300Mbps or more. The 512GB has speeds closer to the max performance of the SATA3 link, with writes over 480Mbps.
We also offer PCIe SSDs (most are NVMe Flash based). Recently we tested an OEM version of the 256GB Samsung and hit sustained writes of over 1Gbps and reads over 2.8Gbps. We expect the 1TB version of this SSD to read at the max PCIe rate of around 3.8Gbps, and the writes to be around 2Gbps
The video was so blurry, I can't read the OEM Samsung M.2 256 part number. What is it? Please get a better camera!!!
Can you run a second monitor from this? it fails with the 8th Gen.
Yes you can run a second monitor with this as well as the 8th gen from the Thunderbolt port. You might want to check the adapter you were using which may be the cause of it not working.
Does it support touchscreen monitors?
Yes it does.
whats the music?
Darude sandstorm
Is this a vPro/AMT processor?
Not this unit. The only NUC currently available with vPro is the NUC5i5MYHE. Expect a new model later this year.
Hello, could you please tell me how this NUC7i3 compares with NUC6i5? Thank you very much!!!
The 6th Gen i5 got a CPU mark of 4754 and the 7th gen i3 got a CPU mark of 4182 in our testing, so they are pretty close based on the benchmark 572 point difference
Thank you for your answer!!!! They are pretty close based on that numbers... but it is probably wise to wait for the 7th generation of i5... What do you think?
Not a bad idea if you can afford to wait.
You need to put the device down and not hold it. and get a macro lenses. would make your video a lot nicer to view
just incase *ubuntu* password for snuc is "snuc"
Is the processor included?
Yes, All NUCs come with the processor soldered down. If you buy from others, typically the RAM, SSD and OS is not included. If you buy from Simply NUC we include all of those plus warranty and technical support.
Thank You! I got that.
The only thing aim missing is a remote control, ok i understand you must work with a mouse and keyboard, but my Zotac AD10 is almost the same thingy has a remote control, now i must buy some usb remote control to control as a media player!!
Is it good for graphic design? Is it support 8gb ram?
hey buddy,
Intel NUC Kit NUC7i3BNHX1 2017 Mini PC (Core i3-7100U Processor/16GB Optane Memory/Integrated Graphics), Grey
i am interested in buying this product and want to know after getting it i have to install ram and ssd things or this will be pre-insatlled ?
Hello Neeraj. If you use this link you can select the RAM, SSD and OS that you would like to have installed in that system. If you select 16GB Optane as your primary SSD it will be the same as this BNHX1 model you are asking about. www.simplynuc.com/7i3bnh-full/
Is the i3 fanless? If so, I wonder how it performs under load.
No. They all have a 15W TDP (except the highest spec i7, that's 28W), which is too much to be fanless in such a small chassis.
thanks
What's the release date?
This one should be shipping by the end of January.
Intel set our expectations for last week, so hopefully, pre-orders will be shipping this week.
does the ram come with the PC?
and can you make a video on setting up 2 monitors to it also does it come with a wifi card?
Yes. It comes with wifi and can easily run dual monitors. Our systems ship with RAM, SSD and OS installed and come with technical support as well. If you just purchase a NUC online somewhere else it will not have RAM or SSD.
Simply NUC Are there any current generation models with IR receiver ?
FOCUS!
Will plugging Logitech's Unifying receiver into a USB 3 port drop the other USB 3 ports down to USB 2 speeds?
That's a thing??? :O
considering
As an electrical engineer: amperage should simply be current, and wattage should be power.
Pffff, i7....but ULV, meaning it has not much in common with a traditional desktop i7...it's comparable to my oldold i5 4570R sitting in Gigabyte Brix box.
wow what a terrible focusing but well explained
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