HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 1x10 SEASON FINALE REACTION - THE BLACK QUEEN - GAME OF THRONES PREQUEL SERIES
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This is our reaction and commentary to the much anticipated season finale of House of the Dragon, 1x10, 'The Black Queen'.
What. An. EPISODE! Helmed by Greg Yaitanes as director, this was, once more, a masterclass in storytelling. The way we held our breath, clutched onto our arm rest and audibly gasped, multiple times, is honestly still not enough of a description to convey just how overwhelming and incredible this episode was.
Whether it was seeing the true dimensions of Vhagar in comparison to other dragons, a full on dragon battle amongst the darkest of stormclouds, or witnessing the consequences on the Blacks due to the Greens' actions from the previous episode, it was an absolutely stunning temporary ending to what was an unforgettable show and story.
Emma 'Negroni Sbagliato with Prosecco in it' D'Arcy, Matt Smith and Ewan Mitchell were absolutely fantastic, truly shining with the complexities and vulnerabilities they brought to their characters.
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If I chased my little cousin and his chihuahua around with a pitbull and the leash snaps, it's still my fault. Aemond is at fault but he didn't want to murder, so this is manslaughter.
Exactly! he is still responsible for sure or has a part in it but him not intending to do it makes things more complicated than we could ever realize. It adds depth to his character but also the consequences that are to come
Niece, not cousin
Nephew*
After that confrontation in Baratheon's hall, no one will ever believe Aemond didn't intentionally kill Lucerys. But he was stupid and careless with the most powerful dragon in the world. If you threaten someone with a gun and the gun accidentally goes off and kills them, you can't say you aren't responsible.
Aemond was Lucerys' Uncle
It didn't help that the entire episode showed how sweet and well-mannered of a boy Lucerys is. Made his demise extra heartbreaking :c
Yeah…honestly he was not prepared for the kind of world he lived in. Him going out like this was extremely shocking and heartbreaking 😥😓
@@OfficialMediaKnights he was actually as prepared as he could be for a boy with young dragon, that's making it even more sad, such a loss of a wonderful person / character.
None of this was his fault and he couldn't evade it.
“The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion” - King Viserys
Foreshadowing at it's finest. Feels like this will not be the last instance of a Dragon not listening to commands...
I was gonna to say that you beaten me by a half of hour. XD
@@KawaiiSoulB42 😂
Yup👑
Daenerys also said “a dragon is not a slave” I believe in the first series as well
this is prob a weird comment, but the fact that you two were heartbroken instead of grossed out by the still birth was refreshing. so many people just hate that scene and think it was unnecessary and as someone who witnessed a still birth and helped family through the grief, I think it was absolutely necessary to illustrate every graphic moment of that for the impact it had
Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment. First of all - we are truly so sorry you've had to experience that. It is such a devastating thing that happens much more frequently than anyone cares go admit, and is a major traumatic event. It also feels a bit of a taboo topic to discuss, which is not conducive, so no, your comment is not weird at all. On the contrary, this needs to be talked about more in order to educate people on stillbirths and the psychological and physical impact this has on people who give birth.
This episode handled it very well, I believe. It was honest and raw - and devastating to watch. I cannot fathom someone getting grossed out by this when it's one of the most painful things a human can go through, which is why the way this was shot with this kind of brutality and a sort of loneliness, has created such a strong impact. This absolutely was necessary and I'm glad it was handled with such respect and integrity.
Sorry but thats just wrong and doesnt make sense. If we follow your logic then the producers would also have to show in detail how people die and include distrubing screams, blood and organs falling out and so on... i mean the death of her son had at least the same impact for her so following your logic they should include his blood and his organs falling through the air? No they shouldnt. There are just some things that people dont want to see in a show. Most viewers dont want to see the gruesom details of certain things.
Thats why blood and organs and screams when people suffer agonizing pain are not included in shows (except horror and gore movies). And thats why people criticized that scene. We all know what this must mean to her. We dont need to see the graphics for that.
I also think your personal experience has nothing to do with anything and i dont understand why you would mention it except the wish to be pitied . If someone dies of cancer in a movie do we want that this is shown in every detail because people in real life experienced it and think just by watching it in full length we can understand the impact it has? We cant show everything in detail just because someone experienced it in real life and now wants to show everyone how bad it was for them. I know it sounds selfish but i dont care about the impact. I can imagine how they feel and thats enough. I dont need to see the bad reality visualized. And most people dont want to see it either and thats why most people hate this scene.
I dont want to see a failed child birth in house of the dragon.
To know it failed is more than enough for the viewer to understand and follow the story. (from germany thats why my englisch is bad)
@@VideoMixer1000 lol. That was a long winded reply/argument to something that wasn't even meant to be a debate. If you can't stomach the show or the emotional impacts it's trying to portray, don't watch 😂 Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon are pretty known for pushing viewers emotionally. Which is a large reason they're popular.
The directors clearly left that particular part in there for the impact they wanted it to have on watchers (likely for watchers who don't know what it feels like since they can't imagine it without the gritty illustration). You can't tell me that it would have had the same impact if it faded to black and suddenly she was not pregnant. Instead, as a viewer, you're there with her and seeing the tears, pain, and struggle. And that goes for any scene that means something. It's character development to see exactly what people go through so we know why they make certain decisions or react certain ways down the line. It's called good story telling. Showing instead of telling. There's something to a show putting viewers in the moment and forcing them to be there with the characters as they go through hardships, happiness, or anything for that matter. Otherwise, we don't get as emotionally invested.
And before you try to tell me my OPINION is wrong again (That was sarcasm. Opinions can't be wrong. That's why they are OPINIONS) just look at ratings for the show.... Clearly they are doing something right with their direction...
aemond might not have had the intention to kill lucerys but he still chased him through a storm on a giant vicious wild beast having it snap and antagonise the other dragon. he could have at least stopped when lucerys temporarily got away through the caves, but no, he was still following and looking for him. he already scared the shit out of lucerys, what was even the point to keep going after him? what was supposed to happen other than death for aemond to stop? he's definitely at fault.
You're right - I don't think even Aemond realized just how little control riders actually have over their dragons. He continued to antagonize Lucerys, terrorize the poor child - they were never even on the same level! Aemond is a more accomplished fighter and dragon rider, this did not need to happen. I'm surprisingly devastated at what happened to poor Lucerys - he seemed like a decent kid. Gah. Not cool.
AGREE. Hes at fault.
He stopped and lucerys 's dragon came back and attacked
@@naasei2223 what do you mean he stopped lol. he was still flying forward calling out to luke in valyrian and looking around clearly wanting to terrrorise him more as if that could ever end in anything but murder. it is clear that aemond regretted the conclusion and didn't want war, but that just makes his actions foolish and devoid of foresight. it's most likely due to him still being young and getting unusually emotional when it comes to his missing eye, but none of that makes him any less responsible for what happened
@@naasei2223 he shouldn’t be casing his cousin on huge dragon he should just leave him alone 😂😂😂😂
Aemond just learned a very valuable lesson that many of us has already learned: Play a stupid game, win a stupid prize. I now know him as Aemond the Manslaughterer!
Not a single lie has been spoken! Though I do sympathize with the terror Aemond clearly felt at what he'd done, I feel like he should have known better... And dragons are not meant to be controlled. Best you can hope for is that they'll be your teammate!
Unfortunately the prize Aemond won will come in the future and he has no one to blame but himself
Daemon doesn’t care about dreams, he was mostly frustrated that if Rhaenyra, like Viserys, started trusting the dreams that she would make the same mistakes in ruling that Viserys committed. He wants Rhaenyra to understand that the Hightowers are not honest players and you can’t be lenient. He was wrong to grab her like that, but it was done more out of fear and frustration, than any jealousy or wanting for the throne. He wants to protect the throne for the Targaryens, not himself. At least, till now nothing really tells me otherwise.
And aegon the drunk rapist
Alicent the hypocrite
Otto the cunt.
They are quite the group some dumb people like. Lol good names though. Lol
The scene with the dragons is a reminder to all of us that even though Targaryen's are Dragon Riders , dragons are still wild animals with their own instincts of survival. Once you get them playing roughly with each other, they go into Attack mode out of instinct like any wild creature.
Exactly! You can't beat nature man...
Not only that, but the episode also portrayed the bond between dragons & riders. Luke was scared, so Arrax was scared & used fight or flight instincts. Aemond wanted to scare Luke & he was being unhinged which caused Vhagar to pick up on that. Once Arrax spit fire at an already pumped up Vhagar, she snapped. She is also war-hardened (& an animal) so threats like that are not taken lightly - instinct kicked in. They also demonstrated this bond with the scenes of Rhaenyra giving birth. Syrax felt her pain.
Had Luke remained calm & Aemond had decided to stop trying to be a dick, their dragons would have calmed down as well. Its unfortunate
@@blacklight4845 I felt that Aemond was a dick ever since " someone stole Vhagar ".
@@halicarnassus8235 Yup! He definitely was. That was the turning point.
@@blacklight4845 Also Aemond underestimated how much war experience Vhagar has. The minute she was attacked, she went for the kill
The dragon Daemon was singing to, is Vermithor, the 3rd largest ridden dragon. He has been without rider for some time and basically chills at Dragonstone.
Can’t wait to see him in action. The blacks are gonna need all the firepower they can get! Thanks for commenting and for the support 😃
@@OfficialMediaKnights Same here!
Vermithor was the the dragon of king Jaehaerys I
@@sultanacatalina465 Which is crazy because Vhagar, Vermithor, and some of the other dragons are older than their riders, by a hundred years!
@@StealthDiablo I’m curious to see how Haelena claimed her dragon Dreamfire
They gave Aemond way more depth in the show i love the change from the book
Nice!!! We did read in one comment that his accidental murder of Luce was intentional in the books - I personally love that show Aemond looked so aghast and disturbed. It makes him sooo much more interesting!!
@@OfficialMediaKnights well nobody can say for sure since maesters didn't saw what happened so they might've just assumed it was aemond since they both went to the storms end
That's very true!! As one tells a story, you have to fill in the gaps, and let's face it - I'm certain that Daemon and Rhaenyra will come to the same exact conclusion, because who would believe it was an accident??
@@OfficialMediaKnights Oh they will story ahead was already tragic by doing this writers have made it even more tragic
Right?! But that's what makes it SO GOOD! Lol we at the Media Knights like to suffer like that 🤣🤣
I feel bad for Rhaenyra she lost so much her father, her baby and one of her sons. I understand her rage at the end.
For real man! The worst day of her life! Nobody can say with a straight face they wouldn’t be as enraged as she is
Peace is unquestionably off the table now.
"Neither whip nor words could turn Drogon if he did not wish to be turned." That is from 5th book of ASOIAF. Silverwing refused the wishes of Alysanne 3 times when Alysanne wished to go beyond the wall. Also, Balerion accepted the Aerea as a rider then they flew Valyria, which was against her will, they didn’t come back for 9 months. When they came, Aerea was almost dead. Viserys said “The idea we control the dragons is an illusion”, Dany said “Dragons are not slave”.
I think Luke felt scared, anxious threatened so his young dragon reacted accordingly, it is a sort of self-defense mechanism for dragons or dragon instinct. Vhagar felt the resentment and hate Aemond felt towards Luke, Aemond did not want to kill Luke but he wanted to take his eye. Dragons are emotionally connected to their riders, but sometimes whatever they do with feelings of their riders is something they decide on their own.
They are still animals with they’re own thoughts and feelings. Sentient creatures of their own. I like that they established that control is not something that is achievable if the dragon doesn’t wish it so.
@@OfficialMediaKnights besides, Vhagar has lots of battle eperience and trauma, so that might have also played a role. First time we hear about her in ASOIAF universe is during the Conquest, and her rider was Visenya (fun fact, I think Vhagar was the smallest compared to Meraxes and Balerion).
Daenerys’ dragons were wild. There’s a difference between dragons that have not been ridden before.
@@dracarysforlife5852 Drogon disobeyed her plenty after she rode him, they were not wild. Being wild means away from him an contact. Drogon would not even take Dany home once
@@sweetsserenei they were until she managed to tame drogon. None of the three were tamed. Hence why they didn’t listen. But once they were tamed they did listen.
I'm sure someone has already commented on it but the issues were that Arrax couldn't outrun Vhagar because of the storm. You could see Arrax constantly beating its wings against the storm winds. The second thing is Vhagar is the second largest known dragon since the days of old Valryia and was bred for and served in war. so when Arrax panicked and blasted her in the face, she got that bloodlust and went apeshit against Aemond's will. Like they say, "The idea that we control Dragons without magic is merely an illusion".
Yeah you guys have been pointing that out....makes sense. So any advantage that Arrax could've had got neutralized. Damn dude what a way to go. Aemond could do nothing to stop her Vhagar was made for this and she simply reacted.
@@OfficialMediaKnights not just neutralized: being smaller actually works as a disadvantage when flying in rough weather (or when swimming/sailing through rough currents), because you’re affected by the wind/water more. This is why aircraft carriers can easily outsail missile frigates (which would normally be slightly faster than an aircraft carrier) in heavy seas, for example. So in this battle, the bigger dragon was actually able to fly FASTER than the smaller one, even though normally it would be the other way around.
I see! Makes sense. What I really enjoyed from the show was that size comparison m during the dragons encounter. The size of Vhagar was absolutely jaw dropping !
"Misunderstanding." Lol, what did Aemond think was going to happen chasing Lucerys like that? Besides, even if it was unintentional, do you think his excuse would fly to Daemon and Rhaenyra? Not to mention all the witnesses in Boros' court hearing Aemond wanting Lucery's eye as payment. He's branded as kinslayer now. And you know how those are treated in Westerosi culture.
That's fair - when we say 'misunderstanding', it was referring to the general miscommunication that has driven the story in the past two episodes, not just Aemond.
Whether it was in regards to Viserys' final words misconstrued by Alice, or Aemond unintentionally killing Luce. His expression as he stares at the carcass pieces drift through the clouds is clearly telling that this was not his intention. He absolutely should have known better though - Vhagar is a war and battle-hardened beast. She feels threatened or attacked, she will defend herself. One cannot use a killer machine this lightly and petulantly.
And no, you're absolutely right. Considering how the Greens handled Viserys' death and the subsequent usurping of the throne, it is 100% understandable that Rhaenyra and Daemon will think this was intentional murder - and the consequences for this will be dire, it's heartbreaking and infuriating simultaneously. Aemond will absolutely be branded as kinslayer, and honestly, it's all downhill from here - for everybody involved.
8:25 "She was my only daughter and they killed her, they stole my crown and murdered my daughter, they will pay for this." - Rhaenyra Targaryen
All she wanted was to have a daughter, after her daughter died (she was a deformed stillborn baby with dragon wings) she named her Visenya in memory of Queen Visenya Targaryen, sister-wife of Aegon I The Conqueror Targaryen.
oofff....thank you for sharing that piece of info. Gives us a little more context as well. Definitely feel horrible for Rhaenyra right now...she lost her father and 2 children in the course of a few days.
In the book the baby had dragon wings?
@@florsalazar9687 All Maegor the cruel cruel children, Rae daughter and Daenerys and Drogo kid had some dragon deformities. Valyrians did some fucked up blood magic back in the day, probably mixing people and beasts, including themselves and dragons. Thry are resistant to high temperatures, almost inmune to diseases and xan control dragons but that kind of stillbirths seems like a byproduct of it.
Got to understand the dragons feed off of the riders emotions. While Luke is riding off of fear, and also Aemond is riding to tease him with his emotion of revenge. These dragons understand that. Luke’s dragon was like a dog protecting his owner(a chihuahua fighting a damn wolf) Aemond may have not wanted exactly that but what more could have he expected? And vermithor was the dragon daemon was singing to.
Yeah, honestly it was his bad for underestimating Vhagar! And I cant wait to see Vermithor in action 😁
I guess a lot of dragon wisdom died with valyria. Aemond at least knew some Valyrian dragon command words, and Daemon knew the song. At the time Daenerys had dragons, she knew almost nothing about taming them and the psychic bond with the rider, she knew just the word dracarys. At least Tyrion had read some books and knew that chaining them in the cellar was no good idea and would prevent them from growing.
35:50 But Aemond DID kill her child whether it was intentional or not. Aemond is just too dumb and petty to understand that a dragon is no slave. They don’t think about ‘jokingly’ tormenting and chasing, they are literal beasts. For Vhagar this was like being attacked during war and Arrax is a child dragon, and felt rightfully attacked, both dragons reacted on instict. Aemond should’ve just realised that chasing a 14 year old boy and his baby dragon with his gigantic uncontrollable beast isn’t a good idea. I hate him
You’re right…he should’ve. No coming back from this one now 😳
The main reason I like Rhaenyra is that like Alicent she had domineering men in her life but unlike Alicent she didn’t serve them, she absorbed the best parts of them. A good parent and peaceful from Vis and unafraid and strong from Daemon. I think he was super antagonistic towards her because he could see the Vis in her. On top of realizing if Vis didn’t tell him about the prophecy, he probably didn’t really consider him heir.
Ahah Daemon certainly was wild'n 🤣🤣🤣 and honestly I can't 100% blame him, it seems that everything he holds dear seems to be slipping his grasp.
Also,yesss, I love your comment in regards to Rhaenyra, it's also why I adore her character. She is fierce and refuses to abide by tradition - a true rebel, which as a woman will always be shunned and judged. But she observed and learned from the men around her - I love that!!!
@@OfficialMediaKnights but he kills everyrhing he doesn't love dearly, like his first wife.
@@OfficialMediaKnights we'll surely see her dark side in later seasons. I honestly hope the show does not portray the Blacks as white (ironic) and the Greens as black (also ironic), just like I believe they ended up doing with Starks and Lannisters. Because damn both sides are going to do CRAAAZY things, and trust me. Now that Luke is dead, the response of the Blacks... Ypu are not prepared for that.
@@asoiafan I don't think you are proving anything by bringing his Rhea Royce. His first wife was not some sweet woman; we had one scene with her, the second she laid her eyes on him she attacked him verbally she was toxic AF towards him even when he was passive, i can't imagine how their arguments went when they both took part in the fight. Even Otto said in ep1 that it's been a long time since he was spotted in the Vale, in the books it was said he avoided her like a plague. They both hated each others guts. So yeah, that's his whole character, he protects his loved ones and would get rid of the ones he hates if he was given the chance (he was all about killing Otto twice in this show).
it seems that the writers want to put only that the men who are ambitious with power or war for example otto or daemon I hope that in s2 rhaenyra and alicent are more ambitious if they would do anything for their children but that it can also be seen that they want to have power for them, for example, as cersi that she would do anything for her children but had her own interests for herself
I hope that rhaenyra is more ambitious and that they remove that she remains good because of such a prophecy that the truth is that it rather annoys that if she is going to fight, let it be for her and her family
"A eye for an eye, a son for a son, Lucerys will be avenged." - Daemon Targaryen
Hell yeah! Can't wait for the Blacks to even the score on this one.
@@OfficialMediaKnights oh boy you ain’t ready for what he about to do
@@jcb6731 hahaa gotta protect of the lady on the red keep. more of the lady and her son 🤣
Oh sweet lord. Now we're scared 🤣🤣🤣
@@OfficialMediaKnights it gets dark, very dark
Those scenes with Aemond and Luke look so scary, but so cool. Aemond's acting tho, I knew he'd kill his part🔥
Aemond's actor is doing a phenomenal job portraying so many nuances. The scenes with the Dragons in the clouds was chilling man 🥶
@@OfficialMediaKnights yeah, and the crazy laugh lol love it
Luke was very good too. His valyrian is also on point.
@Heize King yeah dude…menacing to say the least!
@Min Cassy Luke dying this way was heartbreaking! season 2 can’t come soon enough!
the choke scene ,
When he realized he didn’t know the dream secret , he realizes that viserys never trusted him enough and never considered him heir. He was feeling hurt because it has been shown his insecurity is his relationship with viserys. At that moment he was trying to wake nyra the fk up because he knows otto and knows peace isn’t possible. She was acting like viserys and even though daemon loved him, he hated the way he ruled and knows how that ended and hated that nyra was thinking the same as viserys (being naive) He regretted that choke which is why the last scene he was wiping tears off his face if you go back and acted caring (holding nyras hand while delivering the news). On to the birth scene, he was having flashback of laenas pregnancy problem and wanted to avoid it (ptsd) . It was shown in this episode that corlys went to war for 6 yrs after his sons “death” as his way to grief. (Man deal with there emotions different, war is a way to grief) which is why he was distracting himself with the planning to go to war. He later took time for himself to grief on the beach scene. Not defending the choke scene but it’s important the reason for it. He knows the Targeryen Dynasty is on the line too and if he really finds out about this prohecy...
I love this analysis, thank you so much for the thoughtful comment!
I agree - the choking, whilst wrong, was certainly fueled by his own fear and 'inadequacy'. He sees everything he cares about dragged towards a cliff, and his wife makes the same mistakes as his brother. It's a terrible and helpless place to be in.
The characters in this show are so multi-layered, the men and the women, and I thoroughly enjoy them with all their good traits and their transgressions - it makes them fully fledged characters, like real people!
It sounds exactly like you are defending the choke scene. I legit wonder wtf is wrong w you ppl who insist on simping for a man that again and again and again has been shown as impulsive and violent and killed his wife in cold blood by bashing her head in with a stone.
Daemon is extremely fun to watch but also a terrible person and you people who miss that second part are inexplicable to me.
@@WarKrieg I understand why people always seem to bring up Rhae, but he did not love her, he did not even want to marry her, the former king made him. So comparing what he did to Rhae with his relationship to Rhaenyra just does not make sense.
Plus, Emma stated in a recent interview that this was the first time Daemon was violent towards Rhaenyra, even though they have had arguments before during their six year marriage. What he did was inexcusable, no one is arguing against that fact. However, depending on how the show wants to portray Daemon in season 2, this could be a one-time event brought on by the loss of his brother, his unborn daughter, the usurpation of his wife's throne, and the fact he just found out his brother didn't trust him enough to tell him the prophecy.
Ryan, in a recent interview, stated that Daemon just broke in that scene. He is the greyest grey character in Targaryen history. So we can't just use head canon and now claim that Daemon has been abusing his true wife all along, which is not the case. Daemon is chaotic and restless, and dangerous to his enemies, but like all dragons, this scene shows that when pushed to the limit, he can also burn his loved ones.
I like the nuances of this fictional character.
@@MyUniqueVibe How does him not loving Rhae make it ok to KILL HIS OWN WIFE WITH A ROCK AFTER PARALYZING HER BY BREAKING HER SPINE? Like what kind of fucked up mental gymnastics is that? Aegon didn't care for the maid, so it's whatever that he raped her? Matt Smith got yall defending a murderer and a wife beater lmao. You think he cares so much about Rhaenyra, oh man you're in for a surprise (no spoilers).
No matter how badass and cool Daemon and Aemond are, you'll never catch me excusing their current and future shitty actions. Fanboyism is so stupid in a story like this where both sides are awful and the innocent people suffer for it. Aemond is my fav character, but he's a fucked up person too. Just like Daemon and many others.
@@hex_1733 because dumb cunts keep making the assumption that Daemon killing Rhae means he has been abusive towards Rhaenrya through their marriage. That is not the case. This choking incident is the first time he has laid hands on her (which is still inexcusable). Emma stated this in her interview. Daemon has also killed other people, remember? That guard, with Rhaenrya’s blessing. Daemon is chaotic and restless. He is not a good human being, but he has one redeeming quality. His love for his family. We just saw in this episode that love be tested to the extreme.
What I wrote before stands. To Daemon, Rhae was as important as that guard. Meaning, neither meant shit to him. Also, remember, we are not arguing if Daemon is a good person.
Take your anger elsewhere, child. You think Fire and Blood tells the objective truth of this civil war? I’m gonna laugh in your face if Nettles turns out to be someone he views like a daughter :) And guess what, you can’t argue otherwise because the Book gives different accounts of their relationship, so don’t come commenting as if you know how the show is gonna portray them.
Pay attention to details, there's a few Daemon and Caraxes scene from ep 1 that will tell you a lot.
Ep 1> Daemon having a lovey dovey moment with Caraxes, and he take Mysaria's hand and let her touch Caraxes
Ep 2> Caraxes come on cue when Daemon draw his sword towards Otto
Ep 3> Not a single dracarys from Daemon but Caraxes burn in control, react when Daemon got hit with the arrow.
Also, this caught my attention that when Daemon go to fight the crabs, did he chain Caraxes? I read someone's comment about this too, "how did Daemon convinced Caraxes to stay?" Because he always react to Daemon, or probably Caraxes being the good boy as he is just stay calm obeyed Daemon Lol
Ep 6> my favorite moment.. fly high in the air and Daemon lift his hands up (foreshadowing 😏), Daemon The Show Off, how much trust between him and Caraxes.. fly without a care through the fire..
Ep 10> "I'm presenting you a choice" and Caraxes show up, why is he always on cue? Never heard Daemon called him..
And this awesome scene.
The riderless dragon for over 40 years, sing to him, probably to some kind of "wake him up" from his super long me time.. didn't flinch and look at Vermithor in the eye..
Daemon is something else when it comes to Dragons.
I read this somewhere that describe him, "he is not a dragonrider but a dragonlord"
Looks like Daemon is very much in tune with his dragon blood. Loved how you pointed out all these cool moments. It does beg the question just how strong is that bond between Caraxes and Daemon. Almost feels like Caraxes can read Daemons mind. Cant wait to see what this dragonlord does in the future 😁
@@OfficialMediaKnights to think that not everyone had that kind of bond, it's amazing to see him and Caraxes.
Also, look at Rhaenyra and Syrax.
Syrax start to roar when they draw the sword at the bridge and Rhaenyra just, "No" Syrax calmed down and follow her back to castle..
On ep 2, "don't startle Syrax, she's rather protective of me"
If you look in vermithor eyes close enough you can see daemon touched him it looked like
@@Onii-chan_choso if he did then wow..
loved this analysis, also
matt smith said in an interview that caraxes and daemon are basically a same entity , an Avatar of each other.
this man knows what he's doing. cheers to matt smith for giving us one of the greatest characters on tv.
The bass boost when Rhaenyra stumbles got me 🥺
Oh I know.... also did you notice how she unconsciously held her belly, because that's what she'd been doing for months... she seems so alone in that shot, the way it was framed and accompanied by the score...
@@OfficialMediaKnights yessss the tears started for me first when Rhaenyra was rocking her stillborn back and forth when Daemon enters the room. Shattered my heart. Rhaenyra loves her children.
Indeed she does - there are no words to describe how heartbreaking it was to see her cradle her stillborn like that. All that pain, all that effort... damn dude, it's so sad!!!!
I love how ready daemon was for the dragon situation. He'd been counting and keeping track, collecting eggs and doing research on strays this whole time seeing the writing on the walls for the past ten years 🤌
The two sides comparing dragons and their riders and getting the pairings ready, trading etc. is like todays world superpowers comparing nukes 😂
Aemond didn't mean to, but he did...Excellent reaction!
exactly...the debt always comes due
The dragon Daemon was singing to is Vermithor it was King Jaehaerys's dragon ( King Viserys's and princess Rhaenys's grandfather ) since Jaehaerys died he went wild again, he is known to be the second largest dragon in the world at that time period, the first being Vaghar, so having Vermithor is a good move on Daemon
Nitpick but Jaehaerys is not Rhaenys and Viserys father, He is their grandfather.
Holy shit, that's Vermithor!!!! Thank you for telling us, we just saw it rising from the shadows and KNEW Daemon was going to be acting strategically - many may critique that he may have been jumping the gun, but honestly, he has the foresight to understand that the other side will not take pity, or play fair. What a moment, both for Daemon and for us to witness!
@@christianandersson4345 ah yes ! true ! i'll edit it, thanks for the correction, relations in the Targaryen family can be a bit confusing sometimes :p
@@bmaxime8771 True that 😂. It gets even worse later on in the stories.
@@OfficialMediaKnights love the stuff people what a set up for season 2 it’s gonna be brutal. Can’t wait to stay up till 4 in the uk for the next episodes and binge everyone’s reactions to the carnage that will ensue(ur subscribe persuasion got me so I’m waiting for u lot). Let’s go dance in 2023/24
i will say they did give aemond way more sympathy than in fire and blood. he did it on purpose in that book, or that’s what the history conveys. also, they cut scenes of daemon mourning his brother and stillborn daughter, crying on the beach and also him comforting rhaenyra.
Ohhhh wait they cut those scenes, that's such a shame. This show, overall, has done a fantastic job humanizing every single character - it would have added greatly to Daemon's arc!
@@OfficialMediaKnights yeah i was hoping they would show daemon’s soft side more. we have seen some, but they also cut a scene of him hugging his daughters after laena died!!! what a shame :(
I wonder why they did that though - I do feel that that was a mistake, especially since they add moments like him choking Rhaenyra, which to be frank, didn't quite make sense to me as he was shown to have fierce loyalty for those he loves... It does track, but these felt like some questionable decisions for his characterization
Man I love your commentary after the episode, you both completely get it!
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love how they show how Aemond really is: just an arrogant kid with a big toy in his hands; Vhagar gave him a reality check about what playing with dragons is about
Honestly, yeah. Aemond hadn't encountered the Vhagar that is used and aged in battle - her reaction was completely natural to her, and he should have anticipated that.
Then why did he chase him and called him names on ginormous dragon instead of letting him go?????
I am so annoyed at people saying Aemond didn't mean to kill Luke. What did he think was gonna happen when he chased after him and kept taunting him with Vhagar?
Vhagar is the realms largest living battle dragon. They were bread for war not to be toyed with at the whims of an arrogant asshole. Additionally dragons feed off of the energy of their riders. Aemon was being a bully so Vhagar being naturally aggressive went after Aarax several times. Aerax sensing Luke's fear and also seeing a huge dragon is on his trail became defensive.
In short this is all that 1 eyed assholes fault he inadvertently killed Luke due to his hubris and stupidity 🤨😒.
I loved Luke's character 😔🤧😩😫 he was just so sweet ❤🤧
Exactly, try using that excuse after sicking your dog on someone. "Oh I was just trying to scare the dude with my pitbull by getting it into attack mode, not my fault that it got carried away and mauled him to death" lol... Then add the psychic connection that riders have with their dragons and we all know what he really wanted to happen. I don't think he's even that upset about Luke's death, it's mostly the ramifications of what he's just done.
I understand you're annoyed but look at his reaction....the writers, director and actors wanted us to know this was a mistake! Yes he is RESPONSIBLE but that doesn't mean this was INTENTIONAL. It adds more depth to the conflict that's why it's important to point that out. Even though he took it far this time Luke took it far when he took Aemond's eye. This is just another mistake on both of their ends not truly knowing the power behind the dragons and how even riders cant control them at all times. We will miss Luke...he seemed like a sweet kid. It gonna be heartbreaking when his brother gets the news.
@@OfficialMediaKnights I hear you but honestly the writers are pissing me off with this 'everything is a misunderstanding' crap.
No for every action there is an equal n opposite reaction. Also Luke was bearly 6 years old witnessing his older brother and 2 cousins being bullied by this idiot. Aemond's eye was a consequence of his bad behavior 😒.
@@Megasaurusify Agreed but intent doesn't really matter when we're talking about who's at fault. Hence "manslaughter" instead of murder. Could even argue that this was still murder if the dragon was acting on Aemond's emotions, maybe he really did want to kill him but was smart enough to know not to go that far.
You guys reaction to Lucs death has got to be the best so far! The magnitude of Aemonds actions really hit you lol 👍🏿
Haha thanks dude! Man…are you kidding me!? That whole sequence was nerve wrecking. As soon as Arrax unleashed fire upon Vhagar we knew it was gg’s game over for Arrax. Right after when the skies cleared we were just waiting for Vhagar to show up again so when he did it barely gave us time to react. That was a raw shocking moment right there. Oh boy Aemond and the rest better get ready for the blacks to strike back 😭 also Dude! @Corvus Glaive what a badass member of the Black Order! 🤙🤙
@@OfficialMediaKnights lol tell me about it, every fan face palmed when Arrax fired on Vhaegar, understandable as poor guy was terrified of the bigger dragon bullying him but...then just while you were talking about it all, Vhaegar comes through the cloud with that "chomp" 😩💀
And yes, I'm a big Corvus fan too lol 😬👊🏿
Big Marvel fan? We are! Excited to see Mr Kang make the Avengers their nerves haha. Also can these 2 years speed up I want season 2 already! 😬😬
The entire Aemond/Luke thing was NOT some misunderstanding. This was not a "They both screwed up" thing. This wasn't a "They both lost control of their dragons on equal footing" thing. This was entirely Aemond's fault period.
Aemond threatens Luke while in Borros Hall. Luke then leaves scared, he's clearly fearfully searching for Vaghar before leaving. Dragons have a mental bond while their rider as demonstrated by Daemon/Craxase with the arrow & the multiple times Caraxes shows up when Daemon needs him despite no audio queues. Arrax would've been able to tell Luke was scared. Arrax knew Vaghar was there.
Aemond then decided to take the largest dragon in the world out to "tease" a damn child who is riding a literal juvenile dragon. Arrax panics because the biggest & scariest dragon in the damn WORLD is chasing him & at least looking like it's attacking him. If the biggest guy in the bar starts acting like he's going to swing on me, threatening me & making fighting postures I'm not to blame if I retaliate in my own defense. GRRM has literally likened Dragons to being the nuclear bomb equivalent in the GOT world. Aemond is "teasing" Luke iwth a living nuke. Compared to Vaghar Arrax is a pocket knife to Vaghar's .50 Cal.
If someone is arguing with a person they've been feuding with & pulls a gun out & continuously points said gun at the person in attempts to scare or "tease" them & then the gun has a negligent discharge I'm blaming the guy with the gun 100%. So even if Rhae had the full context of everything that happened to Luke she'd still be within her right to make Aemond suffer. Aemond is the wrong party here.
Rhaenyra's cold fury at the end was exquisite. Too many blows too soon after one another, and the gloves are off. This series is a masterwork.
If I hadn't subbed during Fight Club, you two would have gained it with your reactions and analysis to this! Looking forward to checking out more. Some I'll be avoiding because I have yet to watch them on tv.
Noticed that since a few days ago you look to have gained several hundred more subs as well - congrats on the growth!
Thank you sooo much!!! You got to finish our reaction to HOTD and man, your support means THE WORLD!!! You rock!! It's through people like you we got to grow, and it keeps us so inspired and motivated!
And absolutely agreed - her expression at the end was haunting. Heartbreak, rage, a slight tint of insanity, which works perfectly because we have always heard about the Targaryen way so, honestly, we cannot wait to see what she's going to do after!!
The translation was confirmed thanks to the language's creator, David J. Peterson (via Archive Of Our Own).
In it, it is revealed that the name of the song Daemon sings to Vermithor is "With Three Heads". Check the English translation:
Fire breathes, winged leader
but two heads
For a rosary to sing
From my voice:
the fireworks spoke
And the price was paid
with blood magic
With words of fire
with clear eyes
To tie the three together
for you I sing
As one we come together
And with three heads
We'll fly like we should
beautifully, freely
35:02 In the book Aemond he kills Luke and because he wanted to, different in the series they are showing in the series that he is sorry, In the book Aemond he kills Luke because he wants to and when he gets home he celebrates and Aegon and Alicent celebrate Luke's death differently from the series they put as an accident the Two lost control of the dragons in the book there is no such thing as losing control of the dragons they ruined everything in the series but anyway Aemond killed Luke he could have prevented it It was just that he didn't follow Luke but that idiot Aemond went after him boy now he's going to face all the consequences now I'm wondering how they will do it in the series because in the book the greens are all happy about Luke's death by Alicent, Aegon and even Aemond so I'm wondering how they will do it this in the series because the writers put it as if it was an accident and that Aemond didn't want to kill Luke unlike in the book where he kills Luke because he wants to, I didn't really like it, they did it just to make people feel sorry for the greens in my opinion , in the book Aemond kills Luke because he wanted to kill Luke unlike the series which showed that it was an "Accident" but depending on how Aemond was and guilty of Luke's death he could have avoided it. if you followed Luke then he wouldn't kill Luke anymore as if Aemond was an idiot, an idiot is an idiot, he fucked up and now the greens are going to pay for everything they did.
08:26 Rhaenyra's baby would be a girl and her name would be Visenya and Rhaenyra wasn't dreaming about a dragon giving birth. Her own dragon, Syrax, was screaming in pain at her because they are so bonded. If you notice during the Battle of the Stepstones, Caraxes screams when Daemon is hit by an arrow. this shows how Rhaenyra and Daemon have a great connection to their dragons. Rhaenyra's anger burns throughout the transition was so well done, her anger is completely justified compared to how they did Daenarys
17:39 Daemon, as crazy as it sounds, he loved his brother. From the scene where he stopped Corlis talking shit about Viserys in ep 1, helping with the throne to mourning on the beach. I don't think Daemon wanted to show weakness because Rhaenyra was more vulnerable and it wasn't easy. (His last wife died in childbirth, and I believe it is also said that his mother died in childbirth and Viserys's wife died in childbirth.) So the only thing he could do was prepare for the war he knew was coming. for coming. The scene on the beach was much longer with him on the beach Matt the actor he filmed a scene on the beach the daemon suffering from the death of his baby who was a girl and her name was the series visenya but HBO preferred to remove this scene the daemon he is no longer a saint he loves his family he loves his children and really rhaenyra unfortunately the writers prefer not to show that side of him too much, i think the reason daemon didn't go to rhaenyra when she was giving birth is because he was afraid having to make an impossible choice. The last woman he had complications with died. He didn't want to have to make that choice for Rhaenyra. He couldn't lose her like this. As he fell to his knees, he was relieved that she was okay and had survived. Rhaenyra didn't want help during the birth because of her mother's death. She wanted to take that baby away so she wouldn't suffer the same fate. This series/book is awesome...
Matt Smith said that Daemon would give his life for Viserys and Rhaenyra. I fully believe he was heartbroken to see his brother in that condition. in the books Alicent she hates Rhaenyra she was always so jealous of Rhaenyra so much that I wanted Rhaenyra to die no and how in the series it shows that Alicent is like that and because in the books she does things because she is a bad person
Let's see the losses Rhaenyra lost mother and father and daughter and son and Daemon lost father and mother in childbirth and also lost his wife who is Laena and son and now he lost brother and daughter and two other children They are suffering, but each of their own paths, the daemon starts to prepare for war because he knows Otto very well and is afraid of losing his family One thing I will say is that they both really love each other rhaenyra she can't survive without the daemon They are the best couple like it or no, they are everyone's popular Daemyra forever
17:39 Emma Darcy who plays Rhaenyra she says the daemon never laid a hand on Rhaenyra this was the first time Rhaenyra her character didn't really care because she knows the daemon did it and because he is angry and is letting his emotion out and she also says which character of hers cares most about what she just found out the daemon doesn't know about prophecy because Rhaenyra I thought the daemon knew because he was viserys' heir for 10 years that's why she put on a smile side of her mouth because she just found out that her father always chose her and Rhaenyra had her doubts if her father wanted her as heir remember episode 2 when Rhaenyra talks to Alicent because now after years he got her answer The daemon must be sad because he is his brother and he just found out that he was never chosen and that his brother never trusted him enough to tell him and that is more moving A script came out for the first season that HBO thought about putting a scene in the story that Viserys I was thinking about telling the daemon so he starts talking to the daemon but then gives up but they didn't put this scene in unfortunately
I think the biggest reason people didn't like the scene of Daemon choking Rhaenyra is because he's supposed to be a bad guy to the greens but the protector of his family. Daemon is not a saint, but he is definitely not a villain. He does a lot of bad things, but he's a gray character, and loving his family and protecting them is one of his redeeming qualities and some writers are trying to take that away from him.
There are two teams, the Green Team that belongs to Alicent and the Black Team that belongs to Rhaenyra, I hope to see Rhaenyra with fire in her eyes in the second season, The Greens will pay for everything they did.
the Greens produced their green dragon banner really fast
Now that your reaction for episode 10 is complete, does it make more sense that Daemon wanted to attack first?! He knew the Greens were full of crap and it was a matter of time before they were betrayed…
OMG. YES!!! See that's something I love about Daemon - he understands the ruthlessness and viciousness of the opposition. Unfortunately, as Otto said, it's an ugly and bloody game, and Daemon seems to be the only one that fully accepts that many ethical and/or moral boundaries must be crossed in order to win. And once again, he was right!! Seems that he's doomed to be right hand man to kings and queens that fail to act and understand that concept.
Looks like that unintentional mistake is going to haunt aemond for the rest of his life. It really gives more depth to his character than the books.
I agree! even if later on he choses to embrace it and say he intended to, we know the truth. This is gonna be real bad!
Why the hell did he chase him and call him names on ginormous dragon instead of levelling him alone??????
Not sure if anyone has mentioned but she doesn't bend the knee during the crowning scene because she's the woman of her house... Only her husband can choose whether their family will bend the knee or not so she literally isn't allowed to bend her knee without talking to her husband first in that scene. Good job that you guys caught it, though! A lot of reacters have missed that little detail that she is the ONLY one standing upright at the end.
Daemon
2019 was the worst year of my life. First I lost my soulmate, 3 month later a beloved friend and 1 month later my father. In 2022 I lost my 3rd friend and 1 month later my beloved grandmother who was the only one I counted family from my family.
Experiencing the death of the closest people of your life in a very short amount of time, especially starting with my soulmate breaks you in a way very few people understand. It is even more so when you are an emotional person with deep feelings. You need all your strength just to get up and somehow put one foot in front of the other. The grief is like a huge weight which tries to squash you and you need all your energy just to stand straight and not be pushed to your knees constantly. Feeling absolutely helpless about changing what happened and having no idea how to deal with all of your huge emotions. Where do you even begin? You simply can´t control yourself the way you otherwise would be able to.
- Grief forcing him to his knees/bent posture
I only mention all of this because I believe that is what happened to Daemon (and Rhaenyra) in this episode. Both are emotional, deep feeling characters. The showrunners and Matt Smith explicitly showed us how loosing Viserys and Visenya (his stillborn daughter) brought Daemon to his knees. He couldn´t even stand upright anymore.
Even his posture was bent whenever he was not planning how to defend his family and his brothers wishes.
(Daemon at the beach alone, Daemon standing on the steps seeing Rhaenyra and his stillborn daughter, Daemon going to tell Rhaenyra about Lucerys death - His back was bent and his head down for all of them)
- Obeying Rhaenyra´s every word
I´m truly amazed and in awe of Daemon how much he was able to control himself. However he wanted to handle things differently he was absolutely loyal to Rhaenyras wishes. Yes, he struggled emotionally with her wishes but he obeyed her every word.
- Feeling helpless
Daemon is a person of action. Him feeling absolutely helpless in the face of his loss and his grief and having no action to ease the huge weight of it he focused on the actions needed right now for his family, protecting his family and their heritage. All emotions are an energy and they need to be directed someplace for a person to be able to deal with them even a bit.
- Choking Rhaenyra
Daemon was Viserys heir for 10 years before Rhaenyra was named heir. It was natural for her to assume that Viserys told Daemon about the Dream of Ice and Fire. It was heartbreaking for him to learn just hours after having been informed about the death of the brother he loved so much that Viserys has not trusted him with the secret he was entitled to with being Viserys heir for so long. It was a savage kick to the love and loyalty he felt to Viserys which was not reciprocated, at least not as much as he thought. I could feel his hurt through the screen. In addition to the grief Daemon was already buckling under. Him reacting with anger and violence was unfortunate but absolutely understandable in this circumstances. Anger and violence are easier to deal with than being crushingly hurt by someone you can´t directly address it with anymore. Was it the right thing to do? No. I´m sure though that we all have done or said things we are not proud of in situations of absolutely overwhelming feelings without any possibility to control the direction the energy of the huge feeling takes.
Introverts
Both Rhaenyra and Daemon are not only emotional characters with deep feelings but both are introverts. Both have never learned how to share grief with someone since no one was ever available. It hurt my heart so much to see both of them pull into themselves to deal with the huge losses they both suffered. I´m so glad that they love each other so much that they tried to find moments to share the grief together.
Private Grieving
I absolutely LOVED !!! how the show allowed both of them to grieve in private, only with each other, with their backs turned on the audience. You couldn´t see Daemon´s face properly or at all when he allowed himself to grieve at the beach. The same goes for the funeral of Visenya and Daemon telling Rhaenyra about Lucerys death. I can´t remember one show which hasn´t exploited this moments of utter loss for the audience´s benefit. I liked it better this way.
Visenya, the stillborn daughter
Visenya was a mix of dragon and human in the books. I think that is what the show tried to convey in the intersecting cuts with a dragon (Syrax, I think) during the birthing scene. Yes, she was premature but also a malformed with dragon characteristics. I mentioned in my thoughts to episode 7, Driftmark, that Targaryens can not only bond with dragons but that they are part dragon too. For that reason they sometimes bond with the dragon parts of another Targaryen aka Daemon/Rhaenrya and numerous Targaryen marriages between close family members.
Daemon singing to Vermithor
Vermithor is the second largest dragon after Vhagar. He was the dragon of the old king Jaehaerys. As far as I remember, correct me if I´m wrong, Daemon and Viserys grew up in Kings Landing with their parents Baelon and Alyssa, both Jaehaerys children. It might be that Daemon picked up some things abot dragons from Jaehaerys during his youth.
The scene with Daemon and Vermithor watching each other and how you could see Daemon in Vermithor´s eye and Vermithor in Daemon´s eye felt like they were equals in each other´s view. A dragon recognizing a dragon
Training for fighting vs being punched in the face for the first time (No battle experience/battle experience)
One girl from another reaction channel had an amazing analogy. It was about someone who trains to fight all his life and thinking he knows what fighting means until he experiences fighting for the first time only to realize he knows nothing about it. The first punch in the face changes your whole perspective. It rang so true to me.
Rhaenyra was preparing to be a queen for half of her life and most of that time she at least subconsciously had to know she would probably need to fight for her throne. Now the day is here for her having to fight and she still has a naivity to her about what that means :(
The old king Jaehaerys reigned nearly 60 years of peace and Viserys around 30. Almost all people alive at this point in history in Westeros have no battle experience at all. Daemon does. He is one of the best warriors if not the best of his time! Daemon understands far better than everyone else and better than Rhaenyra what is to come and how to prepare for it. I truly understand his frustration with Rhaenyra´s inaction especially since everything they have to and will have to suffer now are the consequences of Viserys inactions throughout his reign. Viserys singlehandedly created the upcoming war and all bloodshed and losses for them in the future with his inactions!!! Otto was only able to contribute to the situation because Viserys never dealt with him despite multiple warnings from Daemon and Rhaenyra over the years.
Rhaenys - Targaryen loyalty to family & Corlys
I have written in my thoughts for last episode that I see Rhaenys´ core being the same one as Daemon´s loyalty to family.
In this episode she proved it yet again. She may resent Rhaenyra and Daemon for what she believes they did to Laenor but the moment they or their children are in danger there is no question on which side she is on.
This episode was the first time Rhaenys called Rhaenys 3 eldest children Laenor´s sons. It was also the first time she interacted with them having excluded them previously during Laena´s funeral. I think the danger to the lifes of the boys and them being engaged to Baela and Rhaena made her include them in who she views as family.
Corlys chose to support Rhaenyra and Daemon because they are/share family.
The kids as envoys / recall to “Send us, dragonriders, father” as show of force
When Rhaenyra herself was 14 years old Viserys refused Corlys´ ask to engage in the Stepstones. In that moment she stepped up and offered him to send her and the other dragonriders as a show of force. Viserys belittled her idea and send her to pick out a kingsguard instead. When she was 15 she flew to Dragonstone without Viserys´ knowledge to prevent bloodshed, which she did, but was scolded for it despite her plan working.
I think she remembered those instances and deliberately chose to act differently. She felt sure nothing would happen because envoys/messengers are forbidden to be attacked. She even sent her younger son to the closer destination with a family member being the head of that house.
Rhaenys and Viserys great-grandmother, Alyssa, was a Velaryon. After her first marriage with a Tragaryen prince and one of her sons being the later king Jaehaerys, their grandfather, she later married the Lord of Storm´s End, a Baratheon. Her daughter then married her son Jaehaerys´ 3rd son.
I included this Baratheon/Targaryen family history to demonstrate how close those two families were connected leading up to the events of the show.
Lord Borros is the son of Boremund.
We met Boremund in episode 1 when he partook in the tourney and he was the one who asked for Rhaenys´, the Queen who never was, favour. We met him again in episode 5 when he was sitting next to Rhaenyra when all the men tried to win her for marriage. That event took place in Storm´s End too. That is where Lucery´s happens upon Aemond being already there.
Rhaenyra couldn´t have forseen any harm befalling Lucerys on his errand.
Controlling a dragon aka Aemond is absolutely guilty of Lucerys´and Arrax´death
Dragons have been shown to us time after time of feeling the feelings of their bonded person. Caraxes screamed when Daemon was hit with a flaming arrow. Just this episode Rhaenyra birthing Visenya was intercut with Syrax screaming. Syrax was ready to roast Otto and his entourage when you could feel Rhaenyra´s anger rising at the greens. Dragons give the impression of being “remote controlled” when they appear in the absolute right moment when their bonded person needs them, etc. I think dragons primary mean of knowing what their bonded person wants/needs of them is what their bonded person feels. You mostly control them through your feelings. Word commands are only secondary to a dragon. The more time you spend with your dragon the more he/she learns to listen to verbal commands.
I think if one knows nothing else of dragons one has to absolutely know that they act in accordance with their bonded person´s feelings. We have seen all the boys having daily instructions with the dragonkeepers on how to control their dragons. Aemond absolutely knew that Vhagar could feel his feelings and might act upon them.
Despite that knowledge !!! he intentionally stopped controlling his own feelings in his interaction with Lucerys in the hall. We as an audience could feel the aggression and anger radiating from Aemond. He furiously chased Lucerys through the skies without trying to take back control of his malicious feelings.
We learned through Rhaenyra in episode 2 that dragons are very protective of their bonded person without active command when she reminded Otto & co of that fact during the bridge scene.
Lucerys was absolutely frightened during the whole chase and Arrax felt that. He tried to protect Lucerys by going on the offense for a second when he spewed fire. No one was even harmed a bit by that.
Additionally Vhagar is a dragon with extensive war experience. She was Visenya´s dragon, one of Aegon´s sister wifes with whom he conquered Westeros on dragon back.
There is no excuse or mitigating factors of Aemonds guilt in the death of Lucerys. He had the knowledge of how controlling a dragon works, he was trained in it for many years. He still chose to act the way he did. No matter how much shocked he seemed afterwards he gave the order to kill with his feelings and he knew it. He owns this brutal murder 100%.
In the book Alicent hated Rhaenyra during the events after Viserys´ death. She had no soft feelings for her (or Viserys) at all, but vengeful ones instead. She even let Viserys corps rot in his bed for days to have enough time to steal the throne for Aegon. Sir Crispin´s killing of the council member was also plain murder. The same goes for Aemond´s evil killing of Lucerys. The book makes clear all those acts were intentional without any redeeming qualities.
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actually, Baela, Daemons daughter has a dragon. A moondancer, daemon has mentioned that earlier in the episode
AHHH right! Cant wait to see that Dragon. They're doing an amazing job at designing them in such a way that they become recognizable.
Man if I had a dragon I’d train on it every day!! Always make sure he/she listens to every command and make sure it knows doing so saves both our lives. I’d reward it with sheep and cows. The dragon Daemon was singing to was Vermithor the old king from the beginning of the show
Aemond had been affiliated with a pig twice, once in a dragon keep, and once for Viscerys's final dinner. Aemond has spent a lot of time training with Sir Christen Cole, but in all that time I bet Sir Christen never told him the story of Rhaenyra and the boar (aka the wild pig). Aemond just facilitated the death of one of her sweetest children while her life is being threated by Aemonds grandfather, mother, and brother, the lot of whom Rhaenyra sees as traitors. Poor Aemond, the future does not bode well for you. You, dear Aemond, have pissed off a woman with the power of a queen, with dominion over dragons and their riders, who survived what her mother and sister in law did not, by reaching into her own birth canal and removing the issue. Poor Aemond, losing an eye was horrid, but nothing compared to what may, and likely will come for you. But keep acting like a pig if you want.
This is gonna get ugly real quick my dude 🥶
Not you acting like it ends well for anyone in this story not even your queen bro 😂
King Viserys warned in the 1st episode that it's an illusion that humans can control the dragons ("The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion. They're a power man should never have trifled with. One that brought Valyria its doom.") 🤔 We saw in this episode that Aemond messed up thinking he could instigate the dragons & that there wouldn't be consequences for playing with these beasts. Aemond done F***ed up! 😬🐉🐉🔥🔥🔥
Ahah Aemond DEFINITELY done f***ed up!! Viserys was so right - riders get so arrogant thinking they control these beasts, when the beasts are really doing them a favor, if anything. The power of dragons must be wielded with respect and awareness of consequence, not for childish whims like these. Let's see if he learns from this!!
the riderless dragon is Vermithore , king jaehery's old dragon . she is battle tested
Daemon is thinking long term. He is not going to mess it up, this is exactly why Rhaenyra marry him, for the possibility of the greens usurping.
Arrax didn’t mess up shit. Those 2 bitches were chasing and attacking him for long time and he finally has enough. Even if couldn’t win. Respect. And aemond expected what to happen playing games on a dragon in a storm?
It’s funny that you pointed out “Can he not read!?” Because Borros Baratheon is actually illiterate lmao
Whether Aemond wanted that particular outcome, Lucerys death is still what happened. Plus, no one told Aemond to follow and terrorize Luke.
Viserys told Rhaneyra in the first episode that they do not control the dragons, it's an illusion and they should not be trifled with. Viserys rode the largest dragon. That's why he never rode another after his died.
Mind you, this is the start of the war. Luke's death is the catalyst for Rhaneyra's actions to go full on war mode. That dragon Daemon went to was Vermithor, King Jaherys's dragon. Yes, he's large.
Your commentary was the best I’ve seen so far! Great analysis
Wow thank you so so much, what a compliment!! You just made our day 😊😊😊
You're not expected to wait a year. You're expected to wait 2 😂😂
Dragons and Riders:
Syrax - queen Rhaenyra.
Caraxes "The Blood Wyrm" - prince Daemon.
Meleys "The Red Queen" - princess Rhaenys.
Seasmoke - ser Laenor.
Vhagar "The Queen Of All Dragons" - prince Aemond.
Vermax - prince Jacaerys
Arrax - prince Lucerys.
Tyraxes - prince Joffrey.
Vermithor "The Bronze Fury" - king Jaehaerys 1 "The Old King".
Silverwing - queen Alysanne (wife of Jaehaerys 1).
Balerion "The Black Dread" - king Viserys 1.
Tessarion "The Blue Queen" -prince Daeron (third son of Viserys 1).
Sunfyre "The Golden" - king Aegon 2.
Dreamfyre - queen Helaena.
Moondancer - lady Baela.
Morning (not hatched yet) - lady Rhaena.
Wilde dragons:
The Cannibal.
Grey Ghost.
Sheepstealer.
32:54 Its like you are paragliding and this guy is sitting on top of an Airbus
Dude....Vhagar is a BEAST holy sh#t! that size comparison really made it click. Poor dragon couldn't compete😣
Your faces when Lucerys got eaten . . . .
Pretty much Everyone when we watched this for the first time . .
remember this guys from ep 1.the idea that we controll the dragons is an illusion also F aemond what the hell was he expecting vhagar is battle hardened dragon he started the hunt she finished it.but he ligit didnt want to kill him. thats why funs are not happy in the book he really want to kill him.
The book is all historical propaganda, according to GRRM this is how it really happened.
That wouldve been better this version makes them look a bit stupid. what the hell did he think was gonna happen. theyre riding literal deadly animals not some play things.
For real dude! you can tell Aemond's remorse for going too far. He did not intend for this to happen....just another kid that thought he had control over the situation. I feel like this will not be the last time we see dragons ignoring their rider's commands. And I love that this just complicated things for both teams when it comes to how we support who we support 😀
Yeah I like the little twist for the book readers as well! This is what REALLY happened here 😀
@AkashicRecords Yeah dude...they're just kids...stupid mistakes both of them didn't account for😣
R.I.P. sweet Lucerys 😢
I know, poor kid 😭
Daemon: "... know that you will die, screaming."
Reminds me of GoT Season 1 Episode 10.
Rhaenys cannot bend the knee. She’s not the head of her house. Lord Corlys is. She respects her husband and the system.
I know Daemon crossed the line this episode but people should give him more credit. They wouldn't stand a chance without Daemon.
Oh absolutely. The thing is, crossing the line is Daemon's M.O. We shouldn't really be surprised because that's what he does - his paranoia and cynicism is what makes him such an asset and such an interesting character to behold. The fact that, once things went belly-up, his instinct was to go and find a solution that would give them an edge whilst everyone else was looking for 'political' solutions. It's a little disconcerting but they need Daemon - someone who is willing to fight fire with fire instead of taking the high road.
"I see Vhagar parked outside I´m not going in", yeeees, just leave Lucerys, just go back home and say "well, there was a problem in Storm´s End" would have saved him 🥺
For real 😢 like seeing the vibe…you already knew something was about to happen 😓
I know I’m late and I know your probably know by now but the dragon Daemon was singing to was Vermithor. Vermithors rider was Daemons grandfather and I know everyone is waiting to see him in actions so I’m going to say this in a non-spoiler way, your excitement to see him in action will not be met with disappointment.
when I saw the chomp scene I was like "omg Aemond you screwed up real bad!"
For real! there is no coming back from this now... ooff!
Enjoyed your reactions past few weeks. Good work
Thanks so much for your kind words and support - it means so much to us!
The dragon that Daemon tamed was Vermithor. The last person to ride it was King Jahaerys I. King Viserys I (Rhaenyras) predecessor. It’s the second biggest dragon next to Vhagar.
We are pumped to see it in action!
With this, the war of ravens and messengers ended, and the war of fire and blood began.
The dragons definitely started to dance. Can’t wait for what’s to come, this show is gonna be insane 😃
Luke trying to soothe the very anxious Arrax was so sad. Both of them were babies.
I was about to comment “get that coin” when you paused the video for subs HAHAHA i thought this is a sponsored vid hahahaha!!!
HAHAHA yo we wish!! No sponsors yet ahah, hopefully soon! Just trying to get people to susbscribe in a very subtle way 🤣🤣🤣
To lose a still born is not as terrible as losing Lucerys. Far more sad and tragic. You have to realize that this is a relationship between her and her son of 14 years.
I was waiting for your guy’s reaction cause it’s always soo fun. Thank you for putting out amazing content. I haven’t seen anyone point this out but that dragon Daemon was singing too is Vermithor. He’s Jahaerys Targaryen’s dragons and it’s just been on Dragonstone without a rider since he passed away. Idk if you guys caught it or not but daemon mentioned silverwing too along with Vermithor and that’s Alysanne Targaryen’s dragon also on Dragonstone with Vermithor. Alysanne was Jahaerys’s sister
Thank you so so much dude! It means the world to us you guys taking the time to write something nice. Thank you for all the support, really ❤️ Wow so they got 2 more pretty big dragons! Can’t wait to see them on action. Very curious as to who will claim them😃
"The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion. They're a power man should never have trifled with."
-King Viserys I
Wise man dude
Dragons are like medieval nuclear weapons and almost all of the dragons are ridden by children
Unfortunately….yet another case of power in the wrong hands. Things usually go wrong when that’s the situation. Thank you for commenting! 😃
FANTASTIC first season they ended off very 'Strong' . I like how they tried to stay true to the book. Did you notice when Rhaenyra was in labour pains the flashes of her Dragon was feeling it too. As for my queen you have tried to be the bigger person all your life when people betrayed you , when people dragged your name through the mud when they talked about your children when the queen attacked you you turned the other cheek . Now its time to be a dragon the GREENS is one of the worst houses in GAME OF THRONES they took your father , they took your crown and now they took your son time to deal with them and BURN EM ALL . fantastic job guys keep up the great work and may your channel get even bigger
Thanks soo much for your thoughtful comment and kind words, your support is invaluable to us!!! 😊
Yeah, honestly, Rhaenyra has tried to be the better person with all her circumstances - I lowkey wanna see her access that Targaryen madness (I know, I know, it's wrong, don't come for me, I'm here for the drama 🤣). It's representing such an interesting mirror image to Daenerys' storyline, don't you think?!
@@OfficialMediaKnights i agree Daenerys lost it when the mountain cut off Missandei head . Its time Rhaenyra to start breathing fire now
Aemond now has to see if he admits the mistake, or just goes with it and uses it as armor and weapon. That character will be so interesting on next season, im so excited
I thought the same! Either he embraces it and make it seem like he’s a cold killer or he is truthful. Most likely he will go with the first option but we all know the truth. Next season is gonna be incredible! 😃
First, great reaction guys, now the long wait begins 😂
Thank you for the support dude! we appreciate it! and yeah man...ugh this wait is gonna definitely suck 😂
winter is coming
Just discovered your channel and your reactions to HoD now 9 months later xD I love how you react together ! We can really share the goosebumps the show gives, with you all the time ! For the question you had, i apologize if you already had this in another comment, didn't see it in those i checked ^^' But to answer without spoiler, about the dragon that Daemon visited, it's rumored to be the third largest dragon after Belarion and Vaghar, it's name is Vermithor, for the rest, u'll see if they talk more about it in 1 or 2 years ! :P
What was the outcome?
He did kill Luke, even if he didn’t mean to. He chased him with a dragon! What do you think would happen?!
The king told them, “ You can not control a dragon!”
i woulda loved to see vermithor v vaghar. theyre almost the same size!
Just found you. Great video. Such an emotional finale. Loving this show.
Hey! Thank you for watching with us and commenting! We definitely appreciate the support. This show was absolutely fantastic. I’m counting the days for the next 2 years. 😃
Aemond didn't want that but still 100% his fault. Think of it like sicking a dog on someone to intimidate them, then losing control and watching the dog maul them to death. He created the situation that resulted in Luke's death, it's his responsibility to treat his dragon with the respect it deserves. Especially a battle-worn, ancient one like Vhagar. It's not a toy to bully a kid with, you can't use a dragon like that unless you intend to kill the target. He should have known better, the outcome was predictable.
Absolutely agree....He clearly does not yet fully understands what it means to be Vhagar's rider. She is a weapon of mass destruction and should be treated as such. Like you said...with respect and with the intentions being clear from the beginning. Hopefully this is a learning lesson for him.
@@OfficialMediaKnights Hopefully he learns from this, but I have a feeling it's just going to push him even further the other way. He's probably going to embrace the kinslayer title and use it to intimidate everyone else.
Now you guys know what it feels to be left waiting for the next season and it won't take a year but 2 years.
dont worry!only about 2 years till next season starts!filming season 2 starts in either april or september/october 2023
2 year of waiting 🥲 at least we have Last Of Us coming up next for our most anticipated HBO lineup
Condal sayid early 2023 , not september or october
in an interview, olivia cooke said filming starts in march of 2023. hopefully that's accurate.
It’s sad that we have to wait that long but it will be much better that way than to rush it.
You will be shocked to see Rhaenyra eaten by King Aegon's dragon😂💚💚
See y'all in 2024 for season 2.....
Small dragons are faster but he is flying in a rain storm.
YOURE RIGHT! Definitely did not account for the winds and rain being a factor...Being smaller he lacks the strength to move through the storm like Vhagar. Thank you!
Intentional or not, Aemond was the only one at fault there. Prince Luce and his dragon are only really young, and being chased by a dragon the size of Vhagar and being cornered is going to cause the smaller dragon to retaliate, and Vhagar is a veteran war dragon, if she gets attacked, she's going to kill whatever attacked her.
RIP Lucerys Strong-Velaryon-Targaryen 😪 🐉🐉🐉
For real...tough finale 😣
42:53 , small correction BAELA had a dragon since BIRTH, they revealed its name this episode. MOONDANCER.
Rhaena however is Dragon less i think.
Good to know! Hopefully she won't be dragon less for long!
The best episode of the show!
Rhaenyra is my favorite Targaryen! She lost her dad, her baby, her son, the throne her dad gave her, never wanted to fight, now she can kill anybody she wants I'm 100% behind her! 🤷🏼♀️ #TeamBlack 🖤 And what can we say about Emma D'Arcy... Wow So talented! ❤🔥🙌🏻
And Aemond is stupid! He didn't have to do that... he just started a war! That's totally his fault! 🙄
The dragon Daemon sings to is Vermithor “The Bronze Fury” he was the dragon of King Jaehaerys I and Is one of the oldest and Second Largest Dragon, he’s smaller than Vhagar but not much
He may not have meant to kill him but you shouldn't be bullying someone on top of essentially a nuclear weapon and not expect it to go off.
Oh that's very true! Aemond should have known he was not fully in control of Vhagar - they are beasts at the end of the day and not to be treaded with lightly!
She already said it: Otto is a traitor. Only reason not to kill him is he came as an envoy.
Messengers or envoys are not meant to be attacked, but that only works if you are engaging with people of honor.
Exactly!!! And there is no honor in usurping the throne in the way they did. They rushed it because, I think deep down they're scared that Rhaenyra actually does have some kind of support amongst the people.
A crazy war scene idea in the next season would be (I’ve never read the books, I’m just imagining this)
A dragon rider already burned to death and still on the dragon whose body is impaled with a giant spear, turns the ground to a sea of flames with no music in the background except the sound of screaming, fire, and the sound of its wing flapping. And after everyone on the ground is dead, the spear which was through the dragon finally finishes it off and drops to the ground, dead. The screen fades to black with nothing breathing on the battlefield except a gentle breeze. The (final) dance of the dragons”
Dude! That would be an amazing way to end the show honestly. We know what came next. So going all out in battle would be epic!
I enjoyed this first season, I hope you both did as well
we really enjoyed this first season! Honestly great cinematography, great score, great acting. What else could we ask for! It was an incredible ride!
Vhagar is one of the three dragons that came to Westeros with Aegon the Conquer and his two wifes/sister's I'm not sure the name of the wife/sister that flew the dragon, but Vhagar is the only one alive out of the three that came from Valerie. Before the doom.
Next chapter is the dance of the dragons it's going too be epic and sad for both sides
Gah I can't wait, but I'm also terrified and not emotionally ready 🤣
I would do exactly what she was doing, but Daemon's so damn impatient!! You don't want to strike first because then the people saw that you were in aggressor and they're going to remember that your whole reign! She was playing it just fine until it happened at the end, And as far as Daemon When he choked her goes... In essence, that was just another big FU from his brother from the grave, that basically said he never honestly thought of him as an heir to the throne because he never shared the prophecy with him so that was why he ended up getting angry mostly
Aemond is at fault. He tried to play kids games with a dragon whos seen who knows how many battles and is a trained warrior basically. Vhaegar only knows you either kill or be killed in war which is why that happened. He cant control the dragon obviously from what ive seen in the show and is cocky because he managed to "tame" Vhaegar.
Honestly, you're right on the money with that one. He is basically riding a killer machine and was using it recklessly to pursue... what exactly? Bully a younger child that is in no way his equal, let's be fair here - Aemond is the more accomplished fighter and rider. This was all doomed from the start