@@idontknow_whattowritesooo130 yes bro spaniard ois not a thing in spain if you want to pronounce it ¨right¨ try the ñ sound spañiard, mm idk still spañish really the best option
@@glockkrieger6592curb your separatist crap, i have seen this expression used even in minas, its common in the entire country. and thata coming from a southern too, i'm literally 2nd gen east german descent, theres no border honey and will never be.
Spanish, Portuguese and Italian are all Latin Languages...they're intelligeble between them but with some differences... Massa is also from Italian descent as many Brazilians (myself included).
@@henry247im a brazillian of german descent and i know way more italian than german lol specially after a phase of falling in love with laura pausini and renato russo's italian cd!
@@elijahprasad7884 italians migrated to brazil by the millions, and they still do that nowadays but in way smaller numbers, brazil also has the largest population of many countries outside said countries, like portugal, venezuela, japan, lebanon, angola and so on. it also has a lot of french descendants in the northeast and a large community of german descendants down in the southeast and south, with a minority of german descendants in the other regions which is my case. growing up i had colleagues: asian, native american, and lots of french and italian descendants in my school, but yes the large majority was of portuguese and/or african ancestry. plus all the mixing, i have some african and portuguese blood myself from my mom's side and thats the normal thing here. believe it or not tho, not so many spanish descendants, because of the way portugal and spain dealt with their colonies, separating themselves, a "you stay there i stay here" politic was decided by them to avoid a war, so you dont see many portuguese descendants in latin america, neither spanish descendants in brazil (nor africa and india, which were also claimed by portugal, for instance). edit: thats changing tho, with all the venezuelans and bolivians crossing over the border, and you know what, so be it, they're welcome.
Hard to believe they would be teammates after this. Had I seen this prior to Alonso joining Ferrari, I would said people were crazy to think Alonso was going to join them after that. Then again, I did say Lewis Hamilton was out of his mind leaving McLaren for Mercedes and well.. that escalated quickly.
Yeah! I sure hope there isn't a safety car on the first lap of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix which means slow cars will be infront of Fernando on the 3rd most difficult track to overtake and he ends up in 7th place, losing the championship by 4 points. And I also sure hope that in one of the most competetive season in F1 where we have a top 3 driver and should be one of the favourites to win, we build a donkey of a car, but thanks to Fernando's consitency and speed we somehow finish in a totally undeserved 2nd. And I REALLY don't hope we repay him for his excellent performances by building a red hoover and falingl out with him, causing him to leave.
one Brazilian and one Spanish, arguing in italian language, with the hand gesture as well, both of them is not just good in speaking italian, they also embrace the culture.
no no the hand gestures are also very common in brazil. i'd say all romance languages, specially the cultures around the mediterranean, usually have it.
Alonso is so calm & collected. I never appreciated Alonso's talent, for I was and still is a huge Shumi fan, but man, o man, I can not help to be a fan of Alonso now
People make excuses and come up with the weirdest scenarios - fact is that Alonso DESTROYED both Räikkönen and Massa when they were in the same car as him.
Sir.Smoke So basically like everyone before and after? I don't get why people write comments like this, because every time one of their favourites will win, there will be someone who says that he only won because "the resources were concentrated towards him". Who is your favourite driver? Please tell me, so I can write that he only won because the resources were concentraded towards him, it's so easy to write that on the internet, you know.
CommentatorDeluxe In Alonsos case that is completely true. The car was designed with his driving style in mind, everyone associated with F1 knows Alonso has demanded to be the #1 driver in every team he has been in. Alonso is good, but saying he destroys other drivers is arrogant and falseful, not to mention unpleasant and not something a true F1 fan would say.
+Mass_Killer_SJM Getting your criticism in early in time for Xmas I see ?? I don't much care what you think if truth be told - & I didn't need you to tell me that either...
It will be interesting next season no doubt, and Massa is gobbing off again about crashgate today, he cant handle the fact that he will not be no 1 and I think he will be beaten fare and square next season. It will be good to watch whatever the outcome.
If your beloved ''newey'' had made a car that didn't break down all time time (2003-2005), while he was working at mclaren, kimi would have had an equal amount of championships as vettel ;)
@@rumblefish9 Yes. Kimi had a car opposite to his driving style with a rookie race engineer. That year was unrepresentative and an "outlier" which is always removed from any statistical analysis. Trulli beat up Alonso over 2 years though in quali and beat him in 2004. All in Alonso's fav era. Yikes.
@@ciaronsmith4995 People like you are one of the main problems in F1 fandom. Biased, coward and liar. Excusing the 2014 of Raikkonen as "unrepresenttive" and slammin' the 2 years of Alonso's partnership with Trulli because who the hell knows why you bring that shit of compariron, but here we go. Let's show the kind of maggot you are: In 2003 Trulli and Alonso were 8 - 8 in Qualifying. Was a tie, but with Alonso having two pole positions and Trulli none, I will say that hardly Alonso was the one beaten. And that was in Alonso's first season with Renault, second season for him. For Trulli was the 7th season, and he didn't managed to have a pole in that date, and certainly not a victory like Alonso in that same 2003, or even a Fastest Lap, like, again, Alonso itself did that 2003 in Canada, and of course Trulli ended behind Alonso in the championship in points (55-33). So in 2003 Trulli didn't won anithing. In 2004, in the 15 GPs they shared as teammates, Trulli barely won Alonso in qualifying (8-7) and managed to make 2 poles against 1 from Alonso, so to be fair, he won that battle in 2004, but sadly he didn't end the season in that Renault. In points Trulli was also marginally in front (46-45), so that year trulli was having a better year... until he wasn't. From his pitiful last lap in france when Rubens Barrichello stole his podium, to the crash at Silverstone, to the pole and zero points in Belgium, Jarno just stopped to deliver, and then was sacked. The "conspirationist theorists" then started to blame Alonso, but Renault was a factory team fighting the 2nd spot of the championship against BAR-Honda, so the theory about the team harming Trulli to back Alonso sounds nonsense. More credible is that something made "click" with Trulli after his mistake in France, and people like Briatore didn't help at all. Anyway, 2004 is one of the worst seasons from Alonso performance-like. He messed up and made mistakes too often, like in qualifying sessions as Malaysia or Bahrein, or mistakes in races like Monza or Monaco where he lost in key moments, and also a good chunk of bad luck like his tire blow up in EE.UU. How it would have ended if Trulli wouldn't left the team before the end of the season, who knows, but he was having a bad development and Alonso ended in good form, so... So, you lie, because Trulli didn't won anything in 2003, in fact was beaten by an "almost" rookie, and 2004 Trulli was ahead of Alonso marginally, in a season when he was sacked from the team due to and array of poor performances after a great first half of season. Those stats counts, as it counts that Kimi had an awful 2014 season, and he managed to bring the third part of points that Alonso did. Poeple likes to say that the F14T was a car that wasn't made to the like of Kimi, but it's hard to think that a car that suffers oversteering and understeering in the same turn could be suitable for anyone on the earth, but the FACT is that Alonso managed to make 161 points, two podiums, and ending 17 of 19 races on points, while Kimi made 55 points, no podiums, and less point finish than Alonso.
In future, something like this will happen between Charles Leclerc and Max Verstappen. The situation will be the same except the characters involved are different
I saw nothing wrong with the move tbh but massa sure AF dint like alonso even afterwards. The infamous alonso is faster than you ensured alonso dint win that year coz if he passes massa there he wins the title. Massa wasnt a good team mate to alonso and wasnt good enough himself to compete for the wdc minus 1 season 2008
Why aren't they arguing in spanish? Normally brazilians are more fluent in spanish than in italian, because they are surrounded by spanish speaking countries
A Spaniard and a Brazilian arguing in Italian in a german circuit
Alonso immediately celebrating for the camera after arguing will never not be hilarious 🤣 low-key savage
Love how Webber just comes out of nowhere and its like "HIGH FIVE MATE!" Cheeky aussie chappy!
"Someone wants to part... oh nevermind"
lol
The high five comes out of nowhere because you almost can't see him enter the room on camera, lol. He's behind everyone's backs.
Lol that was an awesome high five that he gave mark webber afterwards
"Webber, you son a b***!" SMACK!
Yeah man, I alteady thought I was the only one appreciating this goddamn epic high five!
I just love that you’ve got a Spaniard and a Brazilian arguing in Italian ahaha
Alonso immediately apologised to Massa in the following press conference, tells you all you need to know really
It's just the adrenaline and being in the heat of the moment most of the time
nah, don't tell nothing
Oh man you ruined it I was hoping they got into a fist fight on the podium
Yes, that Alonso is a humble guy deep inside
Alonso is faster than you
Everybody is focussed on the Argument between Massa and Alonso, we forget about the epic high five between Alonso and Webber.
"DILLON.. you son of a bitch !!"
*Loud clap sound*
Italian official language of Formula1
Pretty sure it's English or German but I might be wrong.
@@123dan165 it's italian
@@123dan165 no è italiano hahah
mama mia
English.
A Spaniard and a Brazilian arguing in Italian. Perfect
In German circuit
The funny thing is that they could argue in their own languages (Portuguese and Spanish) and they would still understand each other
Marvel: "Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in History"
F1: *"A Brazilian and a Spanish arguing in Italian"*
🤣🤣
Don’t forget to mention that English is their second language for both of them and Italian is actually their third language.
ah yes...a *spanish*
@@idontknow_whattowritesooo130yea, alonso is spanish.
we brazillians speak PORTUGUESE remember that.
@@idontknow_whattowritesooo130 yes bro spaniard ois not a thing in spain if you want to pronounce it ¨right¨ try the ñ sound spañiard, mm idk still spañish really the best option
It's funny how they speak Italian to each other :D "Va a cagare" hahaha
He say: Ma va a cagare va
No sul do Brasil seria:.
-Vai te cagar!
"vai cagar"
@@glockkrieger6592curb your separatist crap, i have seen this expression used even in minas, its common in the entire country.
and thata coming from a southern too, i'm literally 2nd gen east german descent, theres no border honey and will never be.
@@roboterror6366 Discute em português desgramado, esqueceu que ele fala português tbm?
two guys of different nationality argued in italian sounded strange..but it basically foreshadowing their future as a teammate in an italian team
Spanish, Portuguese and Italian are all Latin Languages...they're intelligeble between them but with some differences...
Massa is also from Italian descent as many Brazilians (myself included).
@@henry247im a brazillian of german descent and i know way more italian than german lol
specially after a phase of falling in love with laura pausini and renato russo's italian cd!
@@henry247 How are there Brazilian Italians? Aren't Brazilians Portuguese?
@@roboterror6366 makessense
@@elijahprasad7884 italians migrated to brazil by the millions, and they still do that nowadays but in way smaller numbers, brazil also has the largest population of many countries outside said countries, like portugal, venezuela, japan, lebanon, angola and so on.
it also has a lot of french descendants in the northeast and a large community of german descendants down in the southeast and south, with a minority of german descendants in the other regions which is my case.
growing up i had colleagues: asian, native american, and lots of french and italian descendants in my school, but yes the large majority was of portuguese and/or african ancestry.
plus all the mixing, i have some african and portuguese blood myself from my mom's side and thats the normal thing here.
believe it or not tho, not so many spanish descendants, because of the way portugal and spain dealt with their colonies, separating themselves, a "you stay there i stay here" politic was decided by them to avoid a war, so you dont see many portuguese descendants in latin america, neither spanish descendants in brazil (nor africa and india, which were also claimed by portugal, for instance).
edit: thats changing tho, with all the venezuelans and bolivians crossing over the border, and you know what, so be it, they're welcome.
One spaniard and one Brazilian, talking in Italian. Nothing gets better 🤣
Is that pixel at 1:00 Mark Webber?
yep
YES THAT'S MARK.
"is that pixel" xD
it's too large for a single pixel, perhaps multi 21 pixels?
@@cris8ro Too soon lmaoooo
Hard to believe they would be teammates after this. Had I seen this prior to Alonso joining Ferrari, I would said people were crazy to think Alonso was going to join them after that. Then again, I did say Lewis Hamilton was out of his mind leaving McLaren for Mercedes and well.. that escalated quickly.
That escalated REALLY quickly….
@@Salim-hu9ii what are the chances that i find this 1 day old reply on a 7 year old comment on a 13 year old video😂
@@Jeppedigiorno pretty high) cause internet is 4D world where you can travel through time back and forth
@@YaroslavKutukov pretty sure thats not what 4d means
Lmao hamilton madlad
“Vinci e dici una cosa così!”
Poesia
😂😂😂 sem duvida
LOL he told Ron Dennis 'F you'? lol
+supercooled I'd like to do that.
Yes he did he confirmed in a podcast
I would love to say f you to him
Italian. The official language of motorsport
Right now, it's Dutch...
they are best friends now, just the heat of the moment that was!
Massa "vinci e dici una cosa così ??? Vinci è dici una cosa così ??!! " 😂
3 years later: "Fernando is faster than you"
Tbh Massa was never the same after the inciddent
Wow, they're gonna be teammates in 2010? Looks like a strong team, I hope Fernando can manage to win another championship.
Yeah! I sure hope there isn't a safety car on the first lap of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix which means slow cars will be infront of Fernando on the 3rd most difficult track to overtake and he ends up in 7th place, losing the championship by 4 points.
And I also sure hope that in one of the most competetive season in F1 where we have a top 3 driver and should be one of the favourites to win, we build a donkey of a car, but thanks to Fernando's consitency and speed we somehow finish in a totally undeserved 2nd.
And I REALLY don't hope we repay him for his excellent performances by building a red hoover and falingl out with him, causing him to leave.
Holy shit that was satisfying @ 01:00
may i know why? webber hate massa too?
+umaga I was referring to the sound of the handshake.
*SMACK* noice
"Webber! You son of a BITCH!"
💥🤝💥
@@ZuluRomeo schwarzenegger kind of shake
I like when Massa casually say "F**k you!" to Ron Dennis
14 year ago damn. Love this video though I come back to it once in a while
one Brazilian and one Spanish, arguing in italian language, with the hand gesture as well, both of them is not just good in speaking italian, they also embrace the culture.
hand gestures are also cultural in Brazil
@@ofuets Yep, most latins can summon the hand language when things get heated.
@@lazarushernandez5827 our hands almost speak by themselves 😂
Brazilians and Spaniards do a lotta gestures too...its a latin thing 😂😂
no no the hand gestures are also very common in brazil.
i'd say all romance languages, specially the cultures around the mediterranean, usually have it.
Alonso is so calm & collected. I never appreciated Alonso's talent, for I was and still is a huge Shumi fan, but man, o man, I can not help to be a fan of Alonso now
It's just like Sainz and Leclerc always communicating in Italian
After changing tyres for wet, one of the Massa's rear tyres had an issue, causing vibration in the car, that's why Alonso reached him.
Alonso's pass was tough but fair, that folks is a true racer
Practically best friends
Everybody gangsta till they argue in italian
TRASLATION IS COMPLETELY WRONG from the beginning till the end
Gotta love Massa and Alonso, i love F1 when the drivers get angry!
'vinci e dici una cosa cosi' is literally the only Italian sentence I can say hahaah
The fact that they became teammates later makes this the “suck my balls mate” moment of the 2000s.
Who’s here in 2020?)
my dream is to learn italian and argue with everyone like fernando
People make excuses and come up with the weirdest scenarios - fact is that Alonso DESTROYED both Räikkönen and Massa when they were in the same car as him.
easier to win when resources are concentrated towards yourself
Sir.Smoke So basically like everyone before and after? I don't get why people write comments like this, because every time one of their favourites will win, there will be someone who says that he only won because "the resources were concentrated towards him".
Who is your favourite driver? Please tell me, so I can write that he only won because the resources were concentraded towards him, it's so easy to write that on the internet, you know.
CommentatorDeluxe In Alonsos case that is completely true. The car was designed with his driving style in mind, everyone associated with F1 knows Alonso has demanded to be the #1 driver in every team he has been in.
Alonso is good, but saying he destroys other drivers is arrogant and falseful, not to mention unpleasant and not something a true F1 fan would say.
***** Well, they are in his league.. They are all in F1.
***** Doubt it. Though I have always thought that people who write in caps are either underaged or mentally challenged.
So many subtitles in too short a space of time to read properly...Very old news now anyway..
i had to stop it to read
Seeing as it was uploaded in 2009 then yeah, old news. Didnt need you to tell us that.
+Mass_Killer_SJM Getting your criticism in early in time for Xmas I see ?? I don't much care what you think if truth be told - & I didn't need you to tell me that either...
ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A SPACE
That high five made time slow down.
Now they are both in the same team, Ferrari, and what a freindship team-mates they must been.
F1 drivers are professionals who can connive at potential personal feuds.
If Netflix' DTS would have been there, they would have gone with a whole episode about them arguing lmao
Alonso is right; i enjoy his adherence to efficacy and driver etiquette.
Just the byproduct of adrenaline filled racing
The subtitles are wrong lol
Italian works as the ligua franca like in the olden days. Love it. 😁
Subtitles don't seem accurate they write "bravo!" when the're saying "prova a imparare" or Try to learn.
Just a normal conversation on a dinner table
Plot twist, Fernando told him he was faster than him
It's 2016 now we all know that they are team mates
I love the fire in Massa
It will be interesting next season no doubt, and Massa is gobbing off again about crashgate today, he cant handle the fact that he will not be no 1 and I think he will be beaten fare and square next season. It will be good to watch whatever the outcome.
Mark Webber is like WTF IS HAPPENING?
Mark Webber is one of Alonso's minions. He is an Alonso fanboy. A loser.
I watch this after Abu Dhabi 2021.
If your beloved ''newey'' had made a car that didn't break down all time time (2003-2005), while he was working at mclaren, kimi would have had an equal amount of championships as vettel ;)
massa was one of the best teammates that Alonso had, much better than Raikkonen, and I'm spanish
No. Kimi is a god. Better than both in his prime at McLaren in tyre war era.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Is that why Alonso had 161 points to Kimi's 55?
@@rumblefish9 Yes. Kimi had a car opposite to his driving style with a rookie race engineer. That year was unrepresentative and an "outlier" which is always removed from any statistical analysis. Trulli beat up Alonso over 2 years though in quali and beat him in 2004. All in Alonso's fav era. Yikes.
@@ciaronsmith4995 People like you are one of the main problems in F1 fandom. Biased, coward and liar. Excusing the 2014 of Raikkonen as "unrepresenttive" and slammin' the 2 years of Alonso's partnership with Trulli because who the hell knows why you bring that shit of compariron, but here we go. Let's show the kind of maggot you are:
In 2003 Trulli and Alonso were 8 - 8 in Qualifying. Was a tie, but with Alonso having two pole positions and Trulli none, I will say that hardly Alonso was the one beaten. And that was in Alonso's first season with Renault, second season for him. For Trulli was the 7th season, and he didn't managed to have a pole in that date, and certainly not a victory like Alonso in that same 2003, or even a Fastest Lap, like, again, Alonso itself did that 2003 in Canada, and of course Trulli ended behind Alonso in the championship in points (55-33). So in 2003 Trulli didn't won anithing.
In 2004, in the 15 GPs they shared as teammates, Trulli barely won Alonso in qualifying (8-7) and managed to make 2 poles against 1 from Alonso, so to be fair, he won that battle in 2004, but sadly he didn't end the season in that Renault. In points Trulli was also marginally in front (46-45), so that year trulli was having a better year... until he wasn't. From his pitiful last lap in france when Rubens Barrichello stole his podium, to the crash at Silverstone, to the pole and zero points in Belgium, Jarno just stopped to deliver, and then was sacked. The "conspirationist theorists" then started to blame Alonso, but Renault was a factory team fighting the 2nd spot of the championship against BAR-Honda, so the theory about the team harming Trulli to back Alonso sounds nonsense. More credible is that something made "click" with Trulli after his mistake in France, and people like Briatore didn't help at all.
Anyway, 2004 is one of the worst seasons from Alonso performance-like. He messed up and made mistakes too often, like in qualifying sessions as Malaysia or Bahrein, or mistakes in races like Monza or Monaco where he lost in key moments, and also a good chunk of bad luck like his tire blow up in EE.UU. How it would have ended if Trulli wouldn't left the team before the end of the season, who knows, but he was having a bad development and Alonso ended in good form, so...
So, you lie, because Trulli didn't won anything in 2003, in fact was beaten by an "almost" rookie, and 2004 Trulli was ahead of Alonso marginally, in a season when he was sacked from the team due to and array of poor performances after a great first half of season. Those stats counts, as it counts that Kimi had an awful 2014 season, and he managed to bring the third part of points that Alonso did. Poeple likes to say that the F14T was a car that wasn't made to the like of Kimi, but it's hard to think that a car that suffers oversteering and understeering in the same turn could be suitable for anyone on the earth, but the FACT is that Alonso managed to make 161 points, two podiums, and ending 17 of 19 races on points, while Kimi made 55 points, no podiums, and less point finish than Alonso.
Expectation: oh 2 spanish speakers boutta argue, probably'll be in Spanish
Reality: * Getting angry and arguing in Italian *
Eventually, they became teammates.
MASSA The rEAL champion of 2008!!!!
In your dream. He is like Rosberg, not world champion material.
@@Biixi10 Hahaha, joke is on you. :)))
@@Biixi10LMFAO you're double wrong now, it only took time to prove you wrong! the ex president spilled the beans, its in court, enjoy.
Danm that's it I thought some one was going to start troughing punches 😆
Every dialogue in this video is like a meme 😂😂
The poking would have broke me.
What happened to the guy, who used to handover the caps. I think that was his only job?
Bisa2nya nongol di branda 2021
The subtitles are seriously WRONG!
This could have been the Downfall parody of F1. 😜
Look where they r now
The translation was wrong when Massa said “Vai a cagare” saying he says ‘f*** you’ but actually said ‘go to hell’.
I’m cringing at the translation
and now they are friends :)))))))))))))1
They're both speaking two different languages... Are they both bilingual in Spanish and Portuguese?
They're speaking italian.
There's a Brazilian and a Spanish... arguing in Italian! lmao
ahah "ma va' cagare!" perfect italian arguing.
Massa is the loser.. Alonso is the winner. Simple as that
MegaAble1234
in his dreams only
Subtitles are faster than F1
El mentiroso se hace del ofendido cuando lo descubren. (Massa)
How can you even hear what they're saying over the sound of the commentary?
Welp…now it’s 2023…
Alonso el amo
Mclaren-Honda: bueno si, pero no xD
@@alexxandros168 Aston martin: no verdad? Puede k si
He didnt do anything wrong in italy 2006.
Fight?
"Massa and Alonso have minor argument"
Grazie regrazzi
I remember this. Nice times. These days f1 drivers are too polite!!!!!
Everyone’s favorite troll
In future, something like this will happen between Charles Leclerc and Max Verstappen. The situation will be the same except the characters involved are different
Then they become teammates for FIFTY glorious years.
FIFTY as in:
Fernando
Is
Faster
Than
You
Massa was always mad for touching
I always wondered what they were saying all those years ago. I suppose Massa's race engineer finished it when he said "Fernando is faster than you" .
The translation is utterly wrong lol
It got serious when he started talking with the hands.
Alonso native lenguage is spanish, Massa native lenguage is Portuguese. Why are they arguing in italian?
IMAGINE WHAT ELSE HAPPENS BEHIND THE CAMERAS...
THEIR REAL LIVES AND THEIR REAL CHARACTERS...
Alonso was just happy he pissed him off 😭😂
Mi fa sempre ridere l’accento veneto di Massa 😂😂
Well Massa will never drive for McLaren :P
mikeydaviescmtd Not like he would want to anyway ;)
Why’d he drive for them anyway ??
P.S Ferrari fan
I saw nothing wrong with the move tbh but massa sure AF dint like alonso even afterwards. The infamous alonso is faster than you ensured alonso dint win that year coz if he passes massa there he wins the title. Massa wasnt a good team mate to alonso and wasnt good enough himself to compete for the wdc minus 1 season 2008
uno spagnolo e un brasiliano che litigano in italiano... fantastico 😄
A bit of Italian :)
Missing the fight in the fight to be honest.
As aggressive as a competitive voice chat
massa is a taxi driver is not a f1 driver
Why aren't they arguing in spanish? Normally brazilians are more fluent in spanish than in italian, because they are surrounded by spanish speaking countries
Alonso totally destroyed him eventually.