I love seeing pros get tangled and have the same problems we do. They always cut all mistakes out of their own videos and makes them look like magicians
As a beginner fly fisherman, it’s incredible to see all the rules about 10 and 2 being discarded. Clearly there’s more subtlety to the art of throwing line than straight line path if the tip and clock face can capture. Very Interesting
Once you cast line beyond a certain distance the weight of the line overpowers the weight of the rod. So you need the exaggerated cast to make up for that. 10-2 covers most casting up to 30-60ft.
10 and 2 creates a nice tight loop for shorter casts. With longer casts you want to open the loop up, but a big loop requires faster line speed and a lot of power in the rod loading to create that nice loop shape.
Done exactly the same thing ! Barbless hooks would come out far easier ! but back then i got home and Dad was there to whip it out with a pair of pliers ! ..hahaha i thought it was quite trendy having a bloody butcher hanging from my ear !
Tyler Smith I don't know much about what's happening in the US. Maybe ask Donna O`Sullivan (Fish on! Sports) or Chris Korich (Korich Fly Casting) Good luck 👍👍
We need to see the loops....!! Especially the" ultra tight pointed"loops!! Coupled with a deep discussion about both the cause and the corruption....!! Also upper and lower legs that are purely stright with out waves.....! If any can point me to that information/technique......you would be my new best friend......! For all the articles on casting it appears that these points get very little print.....?? The basics repeated to death.....! I really am just a fisherman desiring to be smooth with great control from 20 to 60 feet. I can cast the entire flyline but don't care. So any one can bring focused clarity on these details could sell a lot of videos and books......! Thanks! just jim
Hello Jim. If you want to see incredibly beautiful and small loops, it's probably not in videos with distance as the only goal. The place with the most nerdy threads about everything within fly casting that I know is probably on sexyloops. www.sexyloops.co.uk/theboard/
You might as well play a game of shot put, or javelin, or any pastime that requires reaching long distances, as opposed to the subtle art of fishing. Just my view, and I am conceding that 'yours is bigger than mine', but what did you catch?
You see the muscles on those shot put/javelin people? That requires some serious work... Trout Distance needs more technique than power. With the right technique I've seen casts over 34 m (measured) with a 8' 6" 4wt rod! If you can cast 30 meters with relative ease (as these people can) think how easy it is to cast shorter distances under full control when fishing and still have the ability to reach out to that monster that is out of reach of most fly fishermen. I know how much of a difference it makes watching my friend fish/cast (an ex national champion). These competitions are not only for distance - the is a disipline for accuracy as well. Watching the worlds best at that is something special!
@davidmiller7771 Agreed.. Casting long distance is less important. That's just an ego thing to make you think you're a gun caster that's all. Accuracy and presentation will be the deciding factor on whether the fish will eat your fly or not!
no way not bitter at all.... Just a fact... BTW they were only cast 100 feet or so which doesn't require the crazy techniques these guys were doing. Steve Rajeff casts 250 feet or 75 meters more then double the winner. Fly casting for fishing and fly casting for distance are two different things. Try presenting a dry fly with those bs casts
This is not a style of casting, it's the same casting. It's a forward cast, back cast along with double hauling. Do you even cast? How do you not know this? "BTW they were only cast 100 feet or so which doesn't require the crazy techniques these guys were doing" So you're telling me you could cast a 100 ft without double hauling? Yeah, right. "Steve Rajeff casts 250 feet or 75 meters more then double the winner." Steve Rajeff uses the same forward/backcast with double hauling. He's just that good and also used specialized gear. Don't watch this video if you are learning because it is way too advanced for you and if you are a noob, you'd probably think it was a different style, LOL.
I can cast 80 feet double hauling and not changing my stance. Did you see the guys take 2 steps in the middle of his cast? Try doing that on the river. Did you not see their leaders piling up? Or how about the wicked tailing loops? Distance casting is retarded and has little to do with being a good fly fisherman. Casting 30 ft accurate is 100X more important.
why don't you go watch Paul Arden and Steve Rajeff. Trout distance. See how steve has a normal stance? See how he doesn't just flop is rod straight back on the back cast? I assure you I know plenty about fly casting.
Actual tip: you don’t want to hear your fly line cutting the air. All of these guys are over powering the rod. This will cause tailing loops and the rod works better if you are relaxed and not trying to push the line out
the film is shot for the world championship in fly casting. If you don't get speed on the line, it's not you who cast furthest, that's what it's all about here and therefore you go to the limit of what's possible. But otherwise you're right that it doesn't pay to over power your cast 👍
@singlemom3260 agreed. Noisy whipping sounds mid air means they are muscling the cast and not letting the rod do all the work as you should.." I bet if you had a close shot of there grip, you'll find they are holding onto the rod too tight also. A relaxed grip equals a relaxed casting stroke. Casting strokes need to be slower and smooth to not hear that sound mid air.
Unless your the newbie on the river trying to impress everybody. Watched a guy last week lose at least 6 flies from the enormous bullwhip snap. Before he left, and the last fly snapped off, he kept swinging for the fence knowing he had no fly, I suppose it was pride that kept him swinging.
Nice to see the pros getting line around their feet😁
I love seeing pros get tangled and have the same problems we do. They always cut all mistakes out of their own videos and makes them look like magicians
As a beginner fly fisherman, it’s incredible to see all the rules about 10 and 2 being discarded. Clearly there’s more subtlety to the art of throwing line than straight line path if the tip and clock face can capture. Very Interesting
Once you cast line beyond a certain distance the weight of the line overpowers the weight of the rod. So you need the exaggerated cast to make up for that. 10-2 covers most casting up to 30-60ft.
The clock face numbers aren't static. It completely depends on how much longer you're casting and what loop size you need.
10 and 2 creates a nice tight loop for shorter casts. With longer casts you want to open the loop up, but a big loop requires faster line speed and a lot of power in the rod loading to create that nice loop shape.
well done Paul great to see you in the medals so to speak.
A wider camera angle would be good here! We want to see the line, and loops!
Yes and yes!
Awesome!
I’m so jealous. Last time I tried casting this far I took a hook to the back of my right ear
I took one to the bum today some how 😆
I took one to the Jonty Rhodes 😆😆
Done exactly the same thing ! Barbless hooks would come out far easier ! but back then i got home and Dad was there to whip it out with a pair of pliers ! ..hahaha i thought it was quite trendy having a bloody butcher hanging from my ear !
Fish were underneath the pontoon that day but the trees were lucky to get away
What size rod and line is required? Is that standard WF floating 100' line?
scientific anglers mastery expert distance #5 120' floating. The rod 9 ft . # of your choice 😎
@@Leif8370 Gonna start training, I may have a skill I didn't even know was a thing! Any info you have on usa side competitions, pls send
Tyler Smith I don't know much about what's happening in the US. Maybe ask Donna O`Sullivan (Fish on! Sports) or Chris Korich (Korich Fly Casting) Good luck 👍👍
Someone please explain why they peel line in before they recast out? I’m new to this lol
I think what you men midt be the double haul, its give the flyline more speed
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Blue shirt man had best form
All the fish are 2 feet away when they heard it was distance casting competition.
Hvor langt kaster de?
Thomas Godt Længste kast 37,5 meter. Resultater er at se sidst i filmen
Til sidst i videoen, syntes godt nok ikke det ser særligt ‘proff’ ud iforhold til hva’ man selv kan skyde linen :b må komme an’ på en test
@@aegiDiusMrChef fedest, du stiller op til næste DM ik? Vi bruger desværre ikke den samme line mere, men rios er næsten magen til 😊
Where the hell do you get a line so long all I can find are 100ft and I'm into my backing every cast
scientificanglers.com/product/mastery-expert-distance/
Is that distance in meters? Would being 6'6" with long arms for my height give me a slight advantage? Lol
It is meters. And yes it would.
@@kuestenjungesh That's me out then, although I now have the perfect excuse for my dreadful distance lol
@@Mo-xx9gg Jup. Yesterday i stood in the baltic sea an thought exactly the same😂
what rod do they typically use for this ??
Giani Devooght It's very different. I used a sage tcx 890-4. But otherwise I think most used fast rods # 6- # 8
Ultra light
what rods do they typically use for this event?
loo
ks to me like a 9' rod, 9'6'' max with a 8 line, maybe a 9.
@HAL-zx1bw It's 120ft 5 weight floating line, 9ft rod of your choice
smider du ikke #8 seatrout op? :D
Det er ikke så gode film jeg har af seatrout desværre, dem jeg har ligger på en computer der driller lidt pt.
Dont confuse tournament casting with fishing..........two different games.
We need to see the loops....!! Especially the" ultra tight pointed"loops!! Coupled with a deep discussion about both the cause and the corruption....!!
Also upper and lower legs that are purely stright with out waves.....!
If any can point me to that information/technique......you would be my new best friend......!
For all the articles on casting it appears that these points get very little print.....?? The basics repeated to death.....!
I really am just a fisherman desiring to be smooth with great control from 20 to 60 feet. I can cast the entire flyline but don't care. So any one can bring focused clarity on these details could sell a lot of videos and books......!
Thanks!
just jim
Hello Jim.
If you want to see incredibly beautiful and small loops, it's probably not in videos with distance as the only goal. The place with the most nerdy threads about everything within fly casting that I know is probably on sexyloops.
www.sexyloops.co.uk/theboard/
@jimknowles5483 what you mean by upper and lower legs without waves in the casting?
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Whats the point ?
I can outcast them any day of the week
especially on Wednesdays
I’m very happy with my 70 feet all day everyday
Same, consistent accurate casts 70 to 80 ft are usually good enough or I move positions.
You might as well play a game of shot put, or javelin, or any pastime that requires reaching long distances, as opposed to the subtle art of fishing. Just my view, and I am conceding that 'yours is bigger than mine', but what did you catch?
caught your attention 😜😂😂
You see the muscles on those shot put/javelin people? That requires some serious work... Trout Distance needs more technique than power. With the right technique I've seen casts over 34 m (measured) with a 8' 6" 4wt rod! If you can cast 30 meters with relative ease (as these people can) think how easy it is to cast shorter distances under full control when fishing and still have the ability to reach out to that monster that is out of reach of most fly fishermen. I know how much of a difference it makes watching my friend fish/cast (an ex national champion). These competitions are not only for distance - the is a disipline for accuracy as well. Watching the worlds best at that is something special!
everyone knows the best trout is always around 37m out from wherever you are standing.
Impressive casting, but it takes all the finesse away from the fly fishing. Still, they cast a lot farther than I do!
Beard guy in baseball cap looks like he could actually catch a fish if pushed...
Been a good caster , does not make you a better fisherman
@davidmiller7771 Agreed.. Casting long distance is less important. That's just an ego thing to make you think you're a gun caster that's all. Accuracy and presentation will be the deciding factor on whether the fish will eat your fly or not!
if your learning don't watch this style of casting serves no fishing purpose
True that brother!
no way not bitter at all.... Just a fact... BTW they were only cast 100 feet or so which doesn't require the crazy techniques these guys were doing. Steve Rajeff casts 250 feet or 75 meters more then double the winner. Fly casting for fishing and fly casting for distance are two different things. Try presenting a dry fly with those bs casts
This is not a style of casting, it's the same casting. It's a forward cast, back cast along with double hauling. Do you even cast? How do you not know this? "BTW they were only cast 100 feet or so which doesn't require the crazy techniques these guys were doing" So you're telling me you could cast a 100 ft without double hauling? Yeah, right. "Steve Rajeff casts 250 feet or 75 meters more then double the winner." Steve Rajeff uses the same forward/backcast with double hauling. He's just that good and also used specialized gear. Don't watch this video if you are learning because it is way too advanced for you and if you are a noob, you'd probably think it was a different style, LOL.
I can cast 80 feet double hauling and not changing my stance. Did you see the guys take 2 steps in the middle of his cast? Try doing that on the river. Did you not see their leaders piling up? Or how about the wicked tailing loops? Distance casting is retarded and has little to do with being a good fly fisherman. Casting 30 ft accurate is 100X more important.
why don't you go watch Paul Arden and Steve Rajeff. Trout distance. See how steve has a normal stance? See how he doesn't just flop is rod straight back on the back cast? I assure you I know plenty about fly casting.
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Actual tip: you don’t want to hear your fly line cutting the air. All of these guys are over powering the rod. This will cause tailing loops and the rod works better if you are relaxed and not trying to push the line out
the film is shot for the world championship in fly casting. If you don't get speed on the line, it's not you who cast furthest, that's what it's all about here and therefore you go to the limit of what's possible. But otherwise you're right that it doesn't pay to over power your cast 👍
@singlemom3260 agreed. Noisy whipping sounds mid air means they are muscling the cast and not letting the rod do all the work as you should.." I bet if you had a close shot of there grip, you'll find they are holding onto the rod too tight also. A relaxed grip equals a relaxed casting stroke. Casting strokes need to be slower and smooth to not hear that sound mid air.
Yes. #5 Scientific Anglers Mastery Expert Distance . m.wcflycasting.com/ 👍
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If you fish for Tarpon, bonefish, rooster fish and permit, some of these circus casting shenanigans make sense. Trout, not so much.
All those casts yet not one fish !!
Such a terrible angle to take the video from
Que lixo. Arremeca longe não significa nada ! FlyfishingSP. E sim coloca na boca do peixe !
All of them beginner.
N.4 at least acceptable.......
Nary a tight loop among them. I noticed that the last guy threw the whole line; must be timing or raw power because the loops were f-a-t.
Doesn’t matter how far you can cast, it’s casting and catching fish. No one gives a shit about casting length.
Unless your the newbie on the river trying to impress everybody. Watched a guy last week lose at least 6 flies from the enormous bullwhip snap. Before he left, and the last fly snapped off, he kept swinging for the fence knowing he had no fly, I suppose it was pride that kept him swinging.
Until you have to reach the striper blitz 100ft from the surf lol