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The biggest shock of this entire video is the fact that Water 7 is only a month and a half past the first chapter.
excuse me what?
@@sgmgamer2903not in real time obviously
@@sgmgamer2903
Yeaaaa...if you really want to be shocked, look at the full timeline. Not counting the time skip, it's going to shock you how short of a time the Strawhats are together
@@EmJaeDee every anime
how did you even find that time frame? cause it's pretty vague how much time they actually spend at sea
Comparing Helmeppo's rank to his father is unfair, since Morgan got unfairly promoted. Kuro's tricked him and the Marines into believing, that Morgan captured him (a body double and hypnotizing them), and then went into hiding. Morgan jumped the ranks from chief petty officer to lieutenant commander because of that. The Marines also should be aware of this mistakes, because Kuro is on the run again.
On the other hand Helmeppo earned all his rank one at a time. So he already surpassed his father!
True. But early One Piece was really tried to emphasize how the Marines were a corrupt and somewhat malevolent organization. So such a faction would make such mistakes and brush them under the rug to keep the status quo.
Captain Morgan and Kuro have almost nothing to do with each other, what are you talking about?
@@VarietyArc Kuro had his chin shattered and his arm messed up by Kuro. It is why he has the axe arm and metal chin. It was shown in the anime I think, but it been awhile since I watched the earlier episodes.
@@VarietyArc Captain Morgan is the one who captured the fake Kuro (both hypnotized by Django).
@@VarietyArc im confused too
Like do you mean 1..2.. jango guy?
And there's two kuros now?
Hina does not understand
According to Vol29 SBS, Helmeppo may already outrank his father. Morgan's rank was a Branch rank which is apparently about three ranks lower than the equivalent in HQ ranks. This makes current Helmeppo one rank over his father.
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@@vegitasama7633 look at the title, it’s clickbait
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@@placeholder_384 the fuck is clickbait about it and does it even matter?
if the content is still better than most of the anime content makers
his vids seems like they are something he works hard on
the wacky marine adventures of helmeppo and koby could be it's own manga.
you could imagine seeing them skyrocket in potential under the guidance of an eccentric mentor past their prime, make new friends and reunite with old ones, and having crushing defeats any time they encounter luffy. watch them come to realize the system they're fighting for is unjust and be inducted into SWORD, see them at the rockyport incident as heroes for the world to see and as calm and reasonable people during the clash between hancock and blackbeard on amazon lily, etc.
seriously, if oda wanted to, he could do marine piece and just do the story over from koby's perspective.
Would be an amazing spin off
I've been saying this for the last 9 years. A spin-off about Koby's nakama would be so incredibly cool.
I love koby. i love this.
Even a video game based on this idea would be cool. Somebody call Bandai Namco!
Morgan and Koby both being captains still makes me laugh, one is a user of Observation and Armament Haki with training in Rokushiki. And the other guy is best known for having an axe for a hand
hahaha...Morgan Axehand. Morgan Blackhand. Theres an ironic connection to Cyberpunk lore here that never occurred to me until you said that. One piece, while being impossible to catch up on in a reasonable amount of time without skipping over things, is a very well written tale.
😂😂😂😂
I was thinking that aswell, but i guess there is a difference in power levels for marines on the grand line and on the south blue, really strong marines wont stay in any of the blues independent of ranking
Yeah one also never been in a fight. Koby! So tbh who actually deserves it more now? I think morgan than koby
it takes few days to finish the manga an slightly more to finish the anime wtf are you talking about.@@knightsurda
I really want to see a Helmeppo/Morgan reunion, where Helmeppo finally gets a hit back at his old man.
I mean, by water 7 helmepo was probable strong enough to beat his father. But it would be pretty cool
If Morgan was still part of the marines, I'd love to see helmeppo outrank him and order him around as a real big f you to Morgan
That would definitely be a cathartic moment for some readers, for sure.
Or what if he says the exact same thing to Morgan that he became worthless that he's not even worth acknowledging
Let alone hitting him
@@eliaspanayi3465 well he can't order him around cause he's no longer a marine
I've always loved Oda's ability to introduce characters that we hate and eventually make them really likeable, but I've never stopped to think about how it literally all started with Helmeppo. The man's writing really is something else.
Edit: not all characters have become likeable yet
Helmeppo
Bellamy
Who else? Those are the only two I can think of 😭😭
@@huberlington crocodile. robin. pudding. senor pink. kuma. mr 3. mr 2 (maybe). buggy.
I really hated franky at first.
carabou. smoker. perona. franky.
baby 5. duval. ceaser. pekoms. kidd.
You were not lying when you said Helmeppo would become one of my favorite characters because very quickly he has. He 100% has flown under my radar for far too long and now I can appreciate him way more!
So Luffy meeting Zoro and Koby meeting Helmeppo both occured in the 3rd chapter … The chapter of captains meeting their second in commands.. beautiful Oda
I think OP is a great example of Character development. I know a lot of people complain about how the Strawhats never have fun moments together anymore or laugh or whatever…. But I think it’s only normal when one grows up. Not saying they became “boring” but more mature. Before they didn’t think about consequences etc but after Marineford and the Time skip, they realised and naturally wouldn’t behave so extremely childish.. although I DO think they still possess their youthful character.. just more mature..
I agree with this statement quite a lot
Agree! I, 32 gal here that has been with OP since the beginning, have been growing along with it. So the growth is also felt in the real world.
Not just that. They have set goals now and that's what they aim for. Earlier they had to stay at random islands waiting for the log pose to adjust, that gave the strawhats time for shenanigans. Even in arcs like Skypea they initially just went there because the log pose said so, Enel came later.
@@dendo20p I do miss his more comedic side in the early arcs.
why ? how ? most characters got more Depth then "main character' ?
Now I'll wait for Condoriano to become the new Marine Hero.
Condoriano is the hero of marines and pirates at the same time 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Condoriano already was the marine hero they just call garp that because he took all the credit
Who said he wasn't already. The fact that he is is the greatest secret the Gorosei hold tighter than the existence of Im. Hail to our lord and savior, Condoriano!
This needs to happen. It even can make sense. Special inspector Sheppard becomes so mentally damaged from people thinking he is condoriano that he eventually takes on the person's as truth.. the Marines now realizing he really is Sheppard tries to get him help.
But condoriano refuses to believe he was a marine and leaves them. His self belief and inherited will from usopps story makes condoriano train really hard and become a badass ally that saves luffy and usopps life.
If he would be canon Oda totally would do this
for me helmeppos visor is what stands out the most, dare I say Iconic for him. Its like that piece that brings everything together, his outfit is smooth, but that visor brings it all together.
Finally Helmeppo getting the respect he deserves
Helmeppo went from "It nice to finally meet you, sir" to "your daughter calls me daddy too".
No
Yes
NO
@@karan8063 YES
He’d probably say that either way.Actually more like “your daughter called me daddy too” to “Very nice to meet you sir,I’ll have her back by 6”
You know it would be cool to see that Morgan had joined up with the black beard pirates (probably from them saving him from being stuck in the ocean on a rowboat for all of eternity). That would lead to helmeppo confronting and perhaps putting his father in his place.
I wouldn’t doubt it if oda gave him a major role in the final arc. I wouldn’t put it past him. He wouldn’t invest this in time and growth on him for no reason.
I mean, it wouldn't be too out of place for a character introduced practically at the beginning of the series to be present for the finale, after all lol.
And during Egghead island, Helmeppo was breaking down in tears crying after what happened to Koby as he shows his helplessness to beg any marine to save his Best friend from being Blackbeard’s captive which indicates how much Helmeppo is as a human being. This is what I like for him as he will get a redemption arc.
I love that he also encapsulates the "found family" theme of One Piece, renouncing his real father and finding a father figure in Garp/a brother in Coby
I never thought about Helmeppo being this well written until now
At least Helmeppo always knew how to strut away fabulously.
"Open the door, get on the floor,
Everybody walk the dinosaur"
If he ever becomes an admiral, i want his signature weapon to be the automatic hammer
DAMMMMN
He'll pound his enemies flatter than the earth
A theme that seems to go through all the admirals is that each has a type of personal justice. I think Helmeppos type of justice could be "redeeming justice" or something on that line.
That will be so awesome to see.
Batman justice
@@leopardtree2249 you mean "I don't use guns, because I don't kill people - I just beat them to a pulp or throw them of a building? :D
@@ToabyToastbrot no thats frank miller version
@@ToabyToastbrot original did kill though so the first version of the batman was actually really nice and tried to heal his rogues bc his mother was gonna open up a shrink place before her death aka arkham so bruce in way acts as their shrink. He didnt get all brutish til the 90s with frank miller
Helmeppo's story really is well done, and his transformation throughout the series really does make him one of the great characters of One Piece. Appreciate the video!
Great design of a character usually involves the classic heroes tale story archetype. Most beloved anti-heroes follow this archetype as well and is very much so a Shonen-esque style of character development. Vegeta is a very classic example of this.
i died when Garp said : all i need is Helmeppo XDDDD
I really love how Helmeppo represents what Luffy may end up doing to the Government / world: after a good fist, things will eventually turn way better.
I'm so glad you made this video Liam!
Helmeppo has been one of my favourite characters ever since him and Coby started training under Garp,
I'm just so proud of him, he managed to change his entire moral compass, and be able to stand up for that morality,
I really hope by the end of the series he does get to take on Morgan, that dude deserves another beating >.>
i know people like to complain about villains not getting killed or finding some way to weasel out of their punishment.... but i like a good redemption arc and having villains suddenly become an ally or come back in a bigger way is better than just dumping them off the narrative cliff.
I have a feeling arlong will get one, prob sacrifice his life to save nami.
@@vincenthammons6705 Ooh. That's a compelling theory. I like it.
Yeah. For example, Rick Grimes sparing Neegan gave made some huge story developments that made the Walking Dead more thrilling as time went on. Moreso in the comics, but it also applies to the show.
I kind of like that cause they still have some kind of role to play in the story
Back in the day me and a friend used to joke about Helmeppo being our favorite one piece character... now that wouldn't be such an outlandish statement
Wild that the Straw Hats have spent more time in universe separated than they have together.
Wow, thanks for making a video on Helmeppo. I've always been really impressed by the level of character development he has. He's a pretty underrated side character so I'm glad he's one of your faves!
Thousands of episodes, hundreds of characters, and one that a lot of fans probably thought would fall through the cracks of such a huge story.... It's easy to imagine that any character with a major character transformation and either haki or a devilfruit could become a major power player near the end of the story. I just hope nothing tragic happens after all that stellar writing!
Helmeppo embodies everything I love about One Piece. Like it was said in the video, in 99,9% of all other stories, he would have been a throw off one time villain or remained a comic relief character. But One Piece has a living breathing world outside of the strawhats and characters live on and go on their own wacky adventures and grow. Seeing the panel 2 chapters ago where Garp was like "get in losers, we're gonna kick some emperor ass and save your friend" was very heartwarming.
I honestly forgot who he was when he showed back up at water 7 🤣
I can see it going above and beyond, ended with helmeppo being vice admiral and coby being full admiral, but if they show a future scene, it may end with coby as fleet admiral and helmeppo being a regular admiral
Now that you've made this video, I feel like we totally need 5-10 chapters dedicated to Helmeppo from Oda.
Helmeppo and Usopp will prolly have a joint role in the final war that will make them legends of the sea in their own right. I've always thought that there will be a moment that the strawhats would destroy the red line, but the more I think about it it won't just be the strawhats but every single ally they've made along the way that participates in such a world altering event.
the reason smoker never has money isn't because captains aren't paid well. It's because cigars are expensive, and he always smokes 2 at a time.
Morgan: you're not even worth being an abusive parent to.
Garp: WORTHY! (of all the abuse) BUT STILL WORTHY!
I want helmeppo to achieve something, he's had an incredible redemption from spoiled brat to respectable marine soldier
I did not know that the first few arcs of One Piece happened so quickly in world time. I always assumed Baroque Works on its own was at least a month or so
"I only need helmeppo" could also be a jest as to garp being humble as to "I'm all I need, but I'll add someone else to cover that"
ODA being the real life Aizen. 💯💯
Helmeppo in the 4Kids dubbed unlocked Kids Next Door level technology with that spring hammer weapon.
I have now more respect for Helmeppo than Smoker.
Smoker was just doing his job and following the law he was ordered to abide by more so than Akainu, so if you’re saying you despise Smoker then you should despise Akainu as much if not more than Smoker.
@Roronoa Zoro I have more respect for helmepo than smoker because he actually does stuff in the story.
Morgans cruel line of speech to Helmeppo kinda makes Sanji Helmeppo 2.0
1:40 he was one of my favorites before watching this, but I still wanna watch because of your reasoning. I feel like the reason why I like him can be summed up in that first like minute and a half.
Isn’t it more difficult to rise in the ranks in the Grand Line navy than in the East blue? Pretty sure Morgan had no haki whatsoever yet advanced to captain, while Helmeppo the haki-user has yet to do so.
Helmeppo is at that obscure line where people argue if rich neglect is neglect, like with Tim Drake from the Batman comics.
Short answer: It is.
Just a reminder, you need a super human body in order to learn the Six Powers techniques. A minimum douriki level of 500 is required for it, and the average marine was estimated to have around 10. That is a massive power boost for Helmeppo by the time he reappears in the series.
12:42 "Bc Helmeppo is a metaphor for this entire world" 🔥💯 "The dawn of the world still has yet to come, but its effects can already be seen in Helmeppo." 🔥😭
Imagine writing such an amazing story that even the bratty kid with daddy issues that's just a forgettable nuisance at the beginning of the show, ends up having an amazing character evolution
Once helmeppo stopped acting like an asshole, and teamed up cody, I had a different take on him. I rocks with Helmeppo, it just took some time for him to evolve and actually become a good person. Great video and take brotha.
Probably one of the most overlooked character arcs in all of one piece
Helmeppo is odas proof that even some really bad people are still redeemable. We just have to give people a chance.
only liam could give us 13 mins praising helmeppo legit no one else could or would
Luffy punched a whole new way of life into the poor guy
Helmeppo has always been on my top of favorite characters after the cover story, as well as Bellamy and Corazon, gawd, Oda writes incredible characters
Whatever happened to axe hand Morgan? After he escaped he was never seen or heard from again.
I feel this was inspired by Tekking's video from a few days ago. On that video I commented: "Who would have thought this was something that would be said close to the end of One Piece "We see what Helmeppo is up to" and it isn't just a joke."
If I time traveled to the time when my younger self was first reading one piece and told myself that helmeppo would go on to be one of my favorite characters of one piece, I wouldn't have believed myself, and thought I was half mad.
Helmeppo needs to become an Admiral alongside Cody.
Garp, Helmeppo, and Bogard are about to roll up and whoop ass. I can't wait.
while I think it will go differently, its funny to think of and a very real possibility that the attack on Blackbeard will be remembered like the god valley incident where the hero of the marines and a young upstart marine take down an emperor to save a fellow marine. Could also lead to big changes in the morale of the marines, potentially furthering the goal of aword
Ohhhh I really like that idea!!!
Not sure what proof there is for this, but I refuse to believe only a month has passed between the start and Water 7. Even looking it up, there's no clear answer but most agree it's around 9 months to a year between episode 1 and Saobody.
It’s worth noting that Sengoku didn’t need all of that force just for Whitebeard - he knew (or at least suspected) he was going to contend with the full might of not just Whitebeard’s fleet but a bunch of allied fleets as well. On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if Garp knew Blackbeard had just been dealing with Law and thus would not be at full strength, and if *his* allied fleets are on the level of Peachbeard, they may not be a relevant part of the equation.
You made me a huge helempo fan now too. He's grown so much. I hope he has he's hero moment against Blackbeard
After the whole Hachinosu thing, not only did Helmeppo take a CANNON for Koby, he survived the battle and caught his best friend as he fell from the sky. What a boss.
Helmepo went from pointing a gun at koby to save himself for a no name pirate to raiding an emperor of the sea to save koby
You could say Helmeppo has had his very own Non-DF awakening by becoming the man he is now from where he was over such a short amount of time.
Lol he said „Schadenfreude“ so casually in his sentence 😂😂
Helmeppo went from virgin buttchin to Chad Buttchin in a month's time in one piece story time.
“All I need is hemelpo” is cold af
The man has been having one helluva character arc.
Garp realized how badly he screwed up with ace and luffy, so he tries to make up for it with helmeppo and koby.
And just like ace at marineford he’s not going to lose one of his grandsons ever again.
The good thing in this video is that liam got content, helmepo got respect and we got a new video to watch
Helmepo has always been my favorite character but his og design is so valid👌
Helmeppo is one of the reasons i love OP so much.
From annoying, no-good, just-a-son to fighting mad-lad with a lot of style.
At first, the only thing I like about Helmeppo is the fact that his English dub was voiced by one of my favorite voice actors: Troy Baker
Always liked Helmeppo quite a bit since he was redeemed with coby and came back in post enies lobby/rtw7, hope we actually get to see him put in work in a fight sometime in the series… and if that’s against Blackbeard look Helmeppo I’m here for it but we’ll have to see how it goes down.
Helmeppo: Garp! Will you help me get Koby back?
Garp: fuck it we ball
imagine instead of just garp, Luffy pulls up to blackbeards island with garp and fights along as coby was his marine best friend. representing the same fight of Gol D. Roger and Garp vs Rocks D. Xebec
corby grew over half an metre in one and a half month
He ate the puberty puberty fruit
He is basically a more goofy and off screen Version of zuko from the last Airbender. All he needed was to get away from his abusive father and finds a good mentor. And yeah garp is just a more violent teaching uncle iroh.
did you even watch the video? his father was less than abusive
@@jakehudson5095 neglect is also abuse.
i remember watching the water 7 arc on TV years ago, when Helmeppo showed up with Coby i genuinely couldn't recognize him XD
I hope helmeppo gets his “Koby” moment while facing Blackbeard. Maybe take on one of the 10 titanic captained. He’s yet to do something amazing. I think this is it.
I think the Goggles/Glasses Helmeppo wears is just a way for ODA to get us to not look at his MASSIVE chin, but focus more on his eyes/face to give him less of comedic character vibe.
So basically Helmeppo is the marine version of Usopp.
Also bring back Devil Fruit Encyclopedia
The amount of time that passes from the time luffy meets zoro to just prior to the time skip is several months… put simply it takes days or weeks just to sail from island to island; and the log pose needs time to find the next island. it’s vague just how much time actually passes, but it’s been around 3 years total from the first episode with helmeppo to current manga events.
This is widely debated amongst the community, but it’s largely accepted to have been several months(9 months or less).
9:50 the strawhats are a memace and reading about them in the newspaper must be mad entertainment
Your line on, helmepo is the zoro to cobby’s luffy. Then when and if they fight. I imagine zoro opens his eye to expose his power. Helmepo laughs, luffy joins in in the laugher. Zoro yells, hey what’s so funny. Helmepo removes the visor covering his eyes to show he has two of them.
That’s why garp only needs helmepo.
I expected not to expect this
i have to say this is one the best illuminating vids i’ve had the pleasure of listening too while communtimg from work. helmeppo’s change, as you poginately made clear, was always on the periphery of my mind of his growth and change; however, you made his transformation so much much more vivid and the significant. i was simply thinking how made good this vid was! excellent work, thank you
Absolutely loving this Helmeppo appreciation.
There's gotta be a final confrontation between helmeppo and former captain Morgan
Sidenote. I think Axe Hand Morgan actually was rich, due to him severely abusive his power and rank.
honestly oda doesn't know how to organize time
but yes helmeppo is a fantastic character
Isn't it mind blowing that we are listening to a potential side story teller of the One Piece world
I can finally watch GrandLineReview videos faithfully without worrying about spoilers cause I've caught up
I would love to see him run into his father again