Diagnosing With The Lab Scope - Why Every Tech Needs To Be Using This Tool!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- In this class today we have 2 case studies that help to solidify the knowledge that we all need to be using our lab scopes! The tool offers so much in the way of accurately diagnosing the cars that "can't be duplicated." We also will open it it up live and show what you guys request to see! Enjoy!
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Thank you! I had a 2013 Nissan Versa come into the shop with a P0705: Trans Range Switch code. The scan tool showed the switch working correctly. I hooked up my Pico and 5 minutes later I knew with 100% certainty that the switch had failed! This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels, Mike!
Thanks for watching Chris! Amazing what the scope can tell you that the scanner can't!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Services Instructor
This is the first time I’m watching your video and it’s great. I really hope the guys that take there cars to a repair shop and believe diagnosing should be free goes to show it’s time precision and skill just to diagnose today’s car. It’s also great to see diy viewers getting into cars.
Hey Emilio! Welcome to the channel. Glad you are liking our videos. Feel free to leave comments on whatever. I always go out and answer them!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
The part where troubles come to the shop after the Diys..... and that seems to follow me.
So charging for our time for diagnostics is the step towards fixing after three other shops couldnt.... didn't try to pretend. Now I've more issues along with the original. I don't own a shop that is perfect and is always new cars but my world is included to everyone's cars.... regradless of make or models. But I don't do restoration and no longer do carbs. So yeah.... diagnostic is not just a free thing. I don't assume. I won't sell you something. If I don't know... I send you off to someone else that does. Don't advise for many to just place parts or spend half the day to investigate where a shorted wire is. (Can bus).... can be a real issue in the original versions of the can systems. Tracking a short to ground iis offen si much easier than finding a short to power. Right? THATS when your cars dies.... BUT ONLY 3 TIMES randomly in the last 6 months. Do not ask me why!.... you've had Auto zillion part store clear your codes 14 times and the data Iooking at is.... you had 5 miles.
Mike...thats one of my next purchase. Pico scope 👍
Update. I got me a 2 channel scope.
Ive got to start somewhere.
I think the reason why we’re not using the scope is because we have to learn it on the job by ourselves. Really sad cause I’ve been a post office mechanic and they used to fly us to school in Oklahoma for free training. But the newer Venice’s we need the scanner for is mostly out Chrysler pro master vans. And there the biggest pieces of junk in the world. Already trans solonoid problems less than 6,000 miles it’s all plastic parts? For the most part the code readers get the job done with no need to pull up and run oscilloscope tests. We still use the parts replacement method. Works as well as a scanner really? So think about your ideas of trying to up sell you snap on scope products . I haven’t bought into the bull yet. But your videos are great and your a grest person for instructing us . I guess there is sum hope for the USA automotive field. Missing the model T
Hey Mark, thanks for watching! Sad to hear about the ProMaster vans...ugh! When working on similar models all the time you have to do what works and what is efficient for you. This car had been to the dealer already...multiple times with no fix. A scope was necessary to accurately diagnose this thing...but it's an anomaly really. That's why it makes such a good lesson. Here's what can happen and the tools you need to properly diagnose and fix it right the first time. This is the type of car that earns you a customer for life.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Excellent training. Authentic problems we see in the field. Nothing comes easy!
Thanks for watching Ron!
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
Thank you Mike. Don't let the challenges get you down. You did good. I appreciate your teaching. Thank you Wells for providing the great training.
Hey Billy, thanks! If anything this video demonstrated the struggles we go through working on cars. I appreciate you watching! Thanks again!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
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Well learn and thanks for the lesson given. Great Tech
Hey JJ thanks for watching!
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
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I watched from the beginning to the end of the video. I personally appreciate what you do.
Hey Michael, thanks! Learn something I hope?
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
You are Quick! Especially at double speed!
You work well under pressure Mike. If you ever get sick of working on cars you would be a great fit working in heavy equipment repair.
Hey Robert! Thanks, i'm just glad I didn't start swearing! Ohhh I don't know about heavy equipment, i'm a scrawny guy. haha!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
I use a snap-on vantage ultra the most. Occasionally I will break out my desk top scope. The Vantage has a scope built into it along with a database of pretty much everything on the road it has all the sensors and switches each one has pages of test to do and known good values for them along with the location and wiring diagrams of all the plugs. It’s the 2nd vantage I’ve owned. I had a first generation that I used for years until I got great tread in and deal on the new one. I couldn’t resist 25% off.
Great tools, can't pass up a good sale :)
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
Always great videos. I’m addicted.
Hey Rgeier11, thanks for watching!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Hi Mike. You do a great job with these videos. I too appreciate the company allowing you to do these classes.
Hey Wyatt, thanks for watching! I'll let the boss know :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
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I miss these seminars.😢. They were so much fun
2019 is a new year...that's all I can say at the moment ;)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Great Information, Mike. This video is well needed due to a lot of techs didn't jump on the Lab Scope bandwagon back 20+ years ago like some of us did.
Most of the training I see (and also present) are about taking the tech already using a Lab Scope up another notch. This video is GREAT for getting a tech going on the Lab Scope usage. THUMBS UP
Hey Jim!!! Thanks! It's such a powerful tool. If this video can inspire even a few techs to pick it up and add it to their diagnostic arsenal then it was worth it.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
I am glad to see that what I did 30 years ago is still valuable today.
Great video. I'll be watching more of your videos. (My curiosity would have me dissecting the old TRS to see what was inside there.)
Hey Henry, great! That's what I like to hear. :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Thanks for showing the need for a perfect diagnosis
Thanks Acinvention1!!!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Dude that was awesome. Very informative for me. I only wish I saw it 2 years ago. I’ll be following! Thank you
Hey Danny, better late than never! :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Good stuff mike...very educational..
A scope is on my shopping list...thanks a lot
Thanks for watching. A scope is a great thing to be on your list. Happy shopping :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Hey Mike, keep up the good work ! It is always easy to comment standing aside I enjoy your channel !!!!Greetz from the Netherlands
Hey Uncle Benz, thanks for watching all the way from the Netherlands!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Thank you for all the Scope lessons...... If I need help with Scope lesson I will check with you. Thanks you once again. Much appreciated.
Hey Terry, thanks! Glad you are enjoying the videos :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
And on the Jeep that was great, nice and easy to access. I like the signal it showed easy to see and explain out.
I'm a hobbyist and I work a full time job. That is why I don't use a scope more. But I want to learn.
You did a great job Mike. Even when it wasn't going your way, you persisted through with no swearing or name calling. Not sure I would have had the same self control. Once again great diagnosis and proof of repair. The chatbox was busy and quite entertaining today but one comment we all agreed on in there today was............JIM, GIVE THAT MAN A RAISE!!!
Hey Mike! The struggle was real on this one! But, it showed what the real world of fixing cars is like....not everything goes easy. The chat was great, you guys really had it roaring! Good stuff! Thanks again for the case study. :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Holy Chupacabra! How come I didn't find this channel before? This is awesome...
Better late than never Dewi! Welcome :)
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
Great Job Mike did a good job on this one. You should add your fix to Identifix and a little of your testing you did to confirm. Hey working on cars can be a struggle sometimes so you did real world diagnostics and repair.
The struggle is real and this video showed it!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
A great "real world" video...about everything that could go wrong....went wrong. But yet you never lost it. I know if it had been me, there would have been a lot of "beeeeeeps", especially when you wanted to go to neutral and discovered you had no battery. I have picked up a lot of good info from you, and admire your presentations. THANKS!
Hahah Mark, there were some words there I would have said had I been at home in my own garage :) Thanks for watching!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
As a young man - I always made my own repairs on my vehicles. Now that I am older, now 57 yo, I make a much better paycheck - SO - though I know how to troubleshoot - I now will take to trusted technicians and just pay them. I do believe that I would greatly enjoy a picoscope to use for accurate diagnosis of engine malfunctions - however - unless I was - as yourself - repairing other customers vehicles for a living, I can still make many repairs myself on my own vehicles without the cost of a lab scope. Once in a while , I get bit by replacing a part which probably did not need replacing. The modern tools are very nice to have BUT , they are expensive to own to just make repairs on your own vehicles - which is one reason among many why the modern mechanical technician has a much higher shop rate - he needs to make a higher rate just to pay for the tools needed to properly diagnose engine malfunctions. Just my opinion - but - there is validity to this train of thought.
Hey Cory, diagnostics can be fun...or they can be a huge headache that keeps you up at night. Personally, I like a challenge, that's why I don't pay anyone to work on my stuff. I can see why many people should though! You train of thought makes sense. Everything automotive has increased, sales prices, tools prices, shop labor rate, technicians wage and the expectation of the technician. It all makes sense.
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
Eric o out there then I know he knows his stuff. He is an great tech.
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I’m beginning to see it your way. Thanks great 👍 video
Ahh i've got you convinced!? :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Good Afternoon Go Tech Mike Becker
Great tutorial thank you 👍
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Great video and thanks for sharing your other followers camshaft reluctor wheel findings. It was helpful to connect the scope to the mechanical failure of his reluctor wheel! I just picked up a hantek as well as the pico costs are way out of budget.
Hey thanks for watching!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Not enough information on it love your site maybe can learn more, keep up the good work
exactly, i just work on a truck w a bad sensor that vehicle computer could not figure out. scope is a must.
Great Video Mike....Hope to see more of this type...very helpful.
Hey Chrisi! Thanks! More of this type? What is it about this one you found more helpful than some of our other stuff we've done? Just curious :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
thank you i will by my scope now and start using!!!!
Awesome Jesus!!! :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
I work as a Porsche tech. and whenever I have seen those trigger points on the cams broken or bent is when someone removes the cam cover with the engine still in the vehicle. The skinny trigger point gets caught on the cover during removal or installation. There’s very little room to work with in that area and if you’re not aware of those trigger wheels it’s very easy to do.
Sometimes you get lucky and can bend them back into place.
Hey Kendogz161, for sure! Gotta be careful with those things. That air gap is critical!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
great video Mike 2nd time watching for me ill say the first capture was a RX-7 or 8 rotary
Hey Mark, thanks! Glad you liked it enough to watch it twice :) Yes, you're correct. That is out of an RX-8. Well done!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Great job! Think a scope will be in my future.
Hey David! Great! Thanks for watching. Talk to Carlos from AESWave.com he will hook you up. Tell him I sent you!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
These videos are awesome. Great refresher
Thanks Ryan!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
A couple of nice scope based diags Mike. Thanks!
Hey John! Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the class!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Hey Mike , Awesome training . Thanks !!
What does the pico offer as an advantage over the snap on scanner as a DSO? Our shop needs a scope as well as a new scanner, wondering if we can get two birds with one stone.
Nick, the PICO interface is much easier to use. The Snap-on scope in the Modis and Verus are ok. They both can and will get the job done. What I would suggest is getting your hands on a PICO to try it out. At a show or another shop or something....sometimes it's nice to have 2 tools. The PICO to scope the output and the scan tool to command it on and off. If your using your scanner as a scope at that point, it's not possible.
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Nick Cove try get a GDS scan . It is a two way scanner plus 4 channel scope.
At times it was like watching paint dry but very informative video. I learnt a lot. Thanks for the video.
Hey Rick! You're right, at times I was struggling getting that switch in. Things like, getting the scope stuff out and set up did take time, but I think I proved the point that it doesn't take THAT much time, right? My goal was to do it all real world. Show you guys it doesn't take 3 hours to set up the scope to prove a failure. Thanks for sticking with it and taking the lessons away. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
I ,am not mechanic all do i can appreciate you knowledge you are presenting in your Vedeo
I never would've guessed that the Dodge Dart has Hyundai-Kia parts. I always thought it was a German-based car, seeing as how the wheels are held on with bolts instead of studs and nuts. You fared better than I would with that trans. range switch replacement; I'm sure I would have ended up cutting myself on something and spilled some blood on camera!
Hey Joseph, I wouldn't have thought that either! Seems so strange. I didn't get cut up too bad...i'm just happy I kept my cool and didn't start throwing wrenches, or swearing, or something haha!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
The Dart is based on the Alfa Romeo Giulietta, an Italian car. I think most European cars use bolts instead of nuts for wheels.
Great job I like it
Sweet, thanks Joseph!
~Mike
Great video!!!!! Thanks for sharing. I only recently discovered the Well Tech channel. Really wish I had known about it a few years ago.
Mike, I dont know if you still read the comments here, but this video was very informative and convinced me that taking your time and doing diagnostics right is the ONLY way to go. I'm ordering a scope tonight.
Hey MJBClassics, I do try to read and reply to every comment!!! So glad to hear that you've ordered up a scope, that's awesome!
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
Great information
I think that noise on the Jeep TPS was extraneous noise the leads were picking up from something in the shop. You'll notice it appeared in the flat line reading too. 20' of leads connected without a shielded connector let's in a bunch of rf type noise at the connection. Good video though, not trying to insult you, just trying to add some personal experience from my time using a scope for much weaker signals. BTW, that glitch seemed to occur at precise 20 second intervals.
Hey Tony, sure, that could be! Thanks for watching!
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
I enjoyed learning the scopes in school, seems like most shops really don't
Hey Cody, thanks for watching! A scope is a needed tool today to be able to proficiently and accurately diagnose whatever comes through the door.
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
Mike,
thanks once more to you and WELLS producing these cool videos......One observation: Disconnect the negative battery terminal FIRST and connect it LAST when reconnecting the battery; one day it will save your......butt:-)
Greetings from Mexico, after the earthquakes
Hey Juergen, thanks for watching and always lookin out for me! Hope all is ok down there, you guys have had a rough last few weeks! Were you affected?
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
This comment will not involve any ball busting due to the amount of brake cleaner fumes I purposely inhaled with breakfast this morning. I sewed a pocket on to my Wells t-shirt with some leftover spandex I had. I repurpose split crotch yoga pants, it's my way of giving back the environment since I don't drive a Prius. haha Nice job Mike!
Easy Glen, you're going to run out of brain cells eventually! I'd love to see a picture of your make-shift pocketed Wells T! HAHA
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Hantek makes a fantastic scope for the $. Their 2D82 is a PERFECT garage scope. Small, durable, decent power (80Mhz range), Scope/DMM/AWG, portable (rechargeable 18650s), connects to PC via USBC, has good features on PC software as well as onboard scope (many auto diagnostic tools). I got the 2D72 before I saw the 2D82 and it's been great to me but definitely would have gone for the 2D82 if I saw it. And it still only costs about $200
Hey Bran onymous, good to know! That sounds like a cost effective tool that will do what we need it to.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
@@GoTechTraining I really think so. And when I said "auto" I should have clarified. I meant automobile, though "automatic" still applies - as I meant "automatic automobile diagnostics tools". There's a pretty large menu with shortcuts to many different modes to easily diagnose vehicle electronics. I probably sound like a spokesman for Hantek but aside from owning the 2D72 scope, I have zero affiliation. I've just been impressed with it and think the 2D82 looks like an absolutely ideal automobile scope. And is a great price (relative to scopes). If you do end up picking one up, I'd love to hear your opinion, as I'm barely even a weekend warrior compared with you being a knowledgeable professional. I'm curious how useful it would actually be for you. Great channel by the way. You're sharing a ton of great information
Bran, i'll look into it. Being that I already have the PICO, a UScope, and the Verus scope I'm not really sure I can justify buying another right now. But I will take your word for it! Thanks for watching.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Bran onymous Hanteck is kinda a budget scope and not shielded I wouldn’t waste my money on it. They did steal the good known wave forms from pico too. It’s good to get it into your box if needed but pico aren’t that expensive considering
Big thanku Mike, for what u do and all the info u share.cheeeeeeers
Hey J Georges, thanks for watchin! Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers! :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Mike nice job buddy. Keep them coming.
You're good... You're good!? Keep going-on.
Oh you understand how i feel when i work on dodges. With fasteners being different sizes or types.
Hey Jesse, that was a fun one haha! The joys of being live on camera :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Services Instructor
Wow great stuff! had a chance to use the Pico scope in my dealer days! On a side note, I was always under the impression that you should always connect the positive terminal to the battery first?
1:05:39
Hey Daniel, thanks for watching! The negative terminal is supposed to be the first off and last installed. That's the best practice...
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Hi Mike,great job with this videos.Thanks for sharing all great tips.
Thanks for another interesting and informative video.
Thanks for watching N123LP! Glad you liked it!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Thank you for such an informative video
Thanks for watching Humberto!
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
I have subscribed to this channel after watching this video. It demonstrates the frustrations and the satisfactions of diagnosing. Kudos
Hey, thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video and watching me struggle :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Services Instructor
I have one, I rarely use it because I use faster methods, if I can't achieve my goal with the fast way I will jump to the scope, same for r&r I'll do it with experience first, them if in certain time I just can't r&r I will look up the r&r service manual.
All depends on the task at hand, right Jose?
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
Absolutely!
Awesome video learned a lot. Crazy the short trigger looked that way and snapped off.. maybe from sitting and ceased upon start..Hopefully someday people will learn to take pics and video on thier phone by holding it sideways lol
Thanks for watching!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Great education! Thanks also Mike
Hey Travis, thanks for watching!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
What I’ve learned owning a 3.6 pennastar engine is never get a magnet near the magnetic reluctor wheel on back of cams Right by back spark plug tubes
Did it change polarity on you?
~Ryan
@@GoTechTraining yup and you can’t just replace the wheel it’s pressed on to a $300 cam shaft 😳 all from magnetic spark plug socket in last tube 🤦🏼
Fuel level gauge signal is weighted over time so the meter does not jump with each wave in the tank. It might trigger a code but not really a functional trouble.
Could you imagine what a fuel gauge would look like if it were real time!??! That would turn out pretty funny!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Looks like the computer expects make before break on the switch. This repair did stop the problem, right? You might want to emphasize that mechanical switches are inherently noisy. Contact bounce is common with any switch opening or closing. I build microcontroller based escape room props and I usually code in a settling time of 100mS to debounce switches. It might not need that much time, but it works and maximizes the usable life if the switch. Customers are pretty rough on pushbuttons.
Hey Tony, great tips, thanks! Hahaha yeh, escape rooms bring out just a bit of frustration ;)
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
great vid thanks for shareing
Great comment! Thanks for commenting :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Love know when you start new class
I really did enjoy this tutorial video.
Thanks Oscar, glad you enjoyed the video!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
I had the PRNDL switch on my 2001 GMC Duramax go rogue over time. The incipient failures resulted in two tow homes.
Finally got bad enough the truck was throwing codes. All around 299k miles. Early GMCs had the switch mounted where it would load up with mud behind it, like mine. Later models it is internal to the trans. Scope would have been nice to have, still need it for other issues...
This is a perfect example of when a scope could have saved you time and trouble. Glad you eventually got it fixed though!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
I could feel your pain. Nice class.
Thanks D.D!
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
This is great !
Thanks Brandon!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Hello out there thanks for sharing keep up the great work bless
Great video Mike. You just a new student. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for joining us Steven!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Ummm, shouldnt the question be "why dont you use it every day?" ANSWER: some days i do power steering hoses or brakes. And lets be straight up, some mkechanical issues can be converted to a waveform and dissected (such as running compression tests, you can see clogged catalytic converters, valves not opening on time, you can even use it with a transducer to look at fuel pressure regulators, AND injectors under-performing. Its all about the wave forms). Now i will watch the vid.
Hey Rod, the scope is an incredibly powerful tool! So, what did you think!?
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
@@GoTechTraining I watch long training type vids in slices, not done yet. However, its de ja vu on the TRS code. Its a common Chrysler thing. Jealous of the Pico though.
very good channel.thanks
Thanks for watching Naushad!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Just re-watching this. Did you ever take the Range Position Sensor apart to confirm damage? A scope is all well and good, but were the copper traces worn out? Dirt build-up? Bent contact? Since I've been learning more, physical evidence takes a priority for customers. Most could care less about my fancy tools. I care, but they want to see it lol.
I love this. I know i am five years late, but...
Hi Carvel,
5 years better than never!
Thanks for watching and reaching out!
~Ryan Wilsing
Pico--best scopes out there. Looks like some basic design/engineering reliability issues w/that little orange vehicle.
Hey Frank, I couldn't agree more. I love the PICO scope!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Well it is a dart after all. And that’s coming from a chrysler tech
Great video, the throttle body was dropping voltage before the accelerator was pressed if you watch when you first hooked up, the throttle being pressed was coincidental to the fault repeating as it was already appearing when it was at closed position, probably a hairline crack in the power track of the circuit board. Not trying to be clever bro.
I'm curious as to why you used the Picoscope instead of the 4 channel on the Snap-on scanner?
Hey Chris, I prefer the Pico because it's easier to use and manipulate. The Snap-on's is ok, but the Pico is nicer. Use them side by side sometime and tell me what you think. I'd be willing to be that I already know your answer.
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Wells Vehicle Electronics thanks Mike. I own a performance shop and we're looking at doing more diagnostic work. There's a pretty good deal on the new Zeus but I believe a well kitted pico scope and a lower model scanner would come to less. I do like the guided testing of the Zeus though from the demo I got.
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We don't use scopes at my place of employment because the owner is to cheep and uses the cover your ass process to validate the charge . I have my own scope and use it as much as I can in my home situation as much as I can but most of the time I'm working on fully mechanical deasiel tractors . I try to convince the owner that the scope process is good and the value to the customer is worth the learning time
Very valuable Training Mike Thank you! Is it possible for the Signal wires for the Sensors to be shorted somewhere which could also cause intermittent drop outs or spikes?
Hey thank you very much! Sure, they could be shorted together or intermittent opens. Sometimes when scoping ill watch the signal right out of the sensor and then also at the module and make sure they match 100%.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
NGK Technical Training That make sense. Thank you
Excelente
Thanks Jeo!
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
@6:20 that's a familiar scope. Hantek 1008, pretty bad equipment, but does the job when you can't afford or justify any better. With it I've managed to positively identify faults I would not have been able to without it, it also allows me to learn by doing without spending far too much. Not bad for an investment of less than €50.
Koncrete, It may not be the best scope but it is certainly better than no scope, right?
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Absolutely.
I here cars are becoming more sophisticated , and now there joining can bus to eithernet? Am I gonna have to retool again?
Yes, Ethernet is already here on some models. Fortunately we still have the same OBDII connection...but I have a feeling we will need to expand our tooling eventually to capture these super high speeds of communication.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Mike, Can i get the same results with an old Snap on Modis. I really have a problem zooming in. Granted I just picked up the unit trying to learn but everyone uses the Pico on You Tube which they just zoom in on everything with a mouse click. Thanks
Mugsmydog, You can do similar with the Modis. It can give you good patterns, I just find it harder and more cumbersome to use than the PICO.
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Could be easier to backprobe at the control unit initially if it is more accessible and wiggle test the harness down to the switch to see if there are any harness faults present also?
Sure Jake, that is always a valid test. Some ecus are easy to get to...others not so much.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Sooo replace the part to get a known good waveform to verify the old part was bad ?
I feel your pain(battery box). I believe that engineers were screwed by a mechanic at one time & their design is there revenge. awesome instruction & excellent name.
Hey Mike, it does seem that way. I'm sure it works both ways! haha. Thanks for watching!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Hi Mike I'm just breaking into scoping and have purchased a sealey pp100 do you think this will be ok for entry level diagnostic? I understand its only 1 channel but wanted to start somewhere think your videos are great keep up the good work Dave f
hi Mike im working on a 2004 mustang 3.0 w 3 timing chains, w very low vaccum reading, good catalytic not stuck open EGR, trying to get a good known pattern sample on crank/cam correlation, unfortunately ONLY HAS ONE CAM SNR, i will apreciate if u can get me a good known pattern.
Hey, which engine is in that Mustang? I don't recall a 3.0 being used in that car.
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
@@GoTechTraining im sorry i mean 4.0
Ok, that's what I thought...just wanted to make sure. I found a few screenshots people have taken. Shoot me an email, i'll send you what I've found. Michael.Becker@wellsve.com
Wanted to ask another quick question. I am trying to write an article on what online subscription sites are best for a DIYer / Hobbyist car repair (or beginning mobile technician) any advice on what online subscription sites like alldata are best? if you only had one what would it be? what do you most consistently use for everything?
Hey Max, just sent you an email back!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
All-Data subscription for single-car DIY 2002 PT Cruiser is worthless in many respects. Inconsistent presentation, poor search function and lots of missing information. "We only use OEM information. What you're looking for isn't available." This trying to find info on headlight housing removal. This is an OBD-II vehicle. Try to find useful All-Data information on crank-no-start.
this is the first stream of yours ive watched. very informative. im new to using scopes and was wondering is there a reason that you used the pico when you were already using the zeus which has a scope as well?
Hey Gs.Novato thanks! Glad you've found us! I love using the PICO over our VERUS. Just so much easier to use. The VERUS does ok....but the PICO is much nicer in my opinion.
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
I was thinking that was the new Zeus scanner and was wondering how it added up to the pico
No Zeus for me. Not worth the $$$ over the Verus. I have played with one, but never the scope, so I can't say how it stacks up against PICO.
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
gs.novato ii
I love the long informative video's . great stuff
Thanks John! Glad you enjoyed the class!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor