Having used a Kampa ( now Domentic) awning since new in 2019, we have nothing but praise for the quality and space we get and none of the drawbacks of a poled system. Ease of use and with some generous appllication of Awning Lube, not a problem to slide it into the channel. Effective and great design. (Air Pro 260 plus) We have the advantage of a 'wet' room within the shelter of the awning, A zip-on bedroom Annex adds more sleeping accomodation for extra guests, (although on our particular 'van, this does obstruct access to the toilet cassette, somewhat). A great review and interesting innovations from an already successful company.
Oh dear, sounds like the bank balance will take a hit. Absolutely love the look of this. A really thorough review with great questions from you. It will be interesting to hear what you think in the spring.
Great review as usual Dan. We are new to caravans (your posts have been brilliant for us). Have a new Evora and now looking at awnings. This Dometic seems good. We like the Isabella Ciruss but a little concerned about the weight.
So, we carry the awning in the car. You can unzip the panels to make it smaller and carry those parts in the caravan (with curtains etc) The Cirrus and this awning are in very different leagues. If you’re able to visit a dealership that has these on display, the fabric is a very different design.
Great video Dan, we've had a Kampa/Dometic air 290 since 2017...only issue we had was a burst center roof pole at the same time ripping the roof open, this happend during the extremely hot summer we had a couple of years ago, I believe this was due to expansion from the excessive heat. I must say Dometic service was excellent the awning was returned to them, the pole and the roof repaired at no cost and returned all within 3 weeks...looking forward seeing this new version at the end of this month.
Thank you Dan for another very interesting blog, I’m still sitting on the fence to buy an air awning as I’m so unsure, I will give this one some research and see what other sizes are coming out.
I love our club air 440, and having had experience of dometic air awnings when they first come out, the modern versions are much much improved. I do like the new colours.
@@willowhypnotherapyI can’t help you with that, having a motorhome I’ve never had anything from the Isabella range. I can say that the Telta are fantastic quality.
Always loved our Dometic/ Kampa Pro L/H but as 2 disabled pensioners fading fast we cannot put it up due to weight (& we have shrunk!) Had to sell it. Have gone for a much much lighter weight air canopy. Admittedly not so much weather protection but we pack our extras & pick our holiday time acvordingly. Used this summer & suited us well with an airbreak for the extra protection. Our Kampa never had water pooling with the double angle roof or condensation issues & detachable curtains are good but MUST be easy glide. Interested to watch this but will never go back to awning from canopy
We have a Kampa Pro 260 never had any issues. When on hard standing pitches we always put a plastic damp proof membrane down under our awning carpet stops the damp coming up from the ground.
Lovely looking awning, we have had a Vango Kalari 2 but the roof light windows deteriorated and split, although this Dometic is a very nice awning, I'm put off by the two roof windows.
I heard that analogy regarding the carrot and radish with a youtube video regarding an Isabella sun canopy a little while ago! (Attwoods?) I agree great awning.
Great video Dan. I've gone off awnings due to the faff and having had 2 damaged. Not a huge fan of the grey, thought we got over that now. Id like a bit more colour init
be interested to see how the doors unzip (part down / fully etc) to allow air in but keep dogs inside and also be fully removed/stored if not needed. Thanks
We always had screen rooms we are thinking about an air awning. First question we are looking at motorhomes or 5th wheels can these awnings be customized to size. Also has Dometic addressed slide outs. Mike & Sue
Great video Dan. Love this sort of stuff! We have an old Kampa air ace that we bought second hand and have been looking for a newer alternative recently. This new version answers so many of the old complaints and looks really smart. Would be interested to know the size options, weights and costs. Thanks
Hopefully I should be able to answer some of those questions when I borrow one next year, but details will be out soon on the Dometic website, and also dometic dealers too.
Hope the stitching is better than my previous Domestic Rally 380. I had to return it and the replacement wasn't much better ... The fabric started to fade after 4 weeks use, obviously this one is a lighter colour ... The dual piping feed for the awning rail is an absolute nightmare. The unused channel piping for motorhomes fitment grips against the caravan when pulling it into the awning channel ... Finally even though its ripstop fabric it looks much thinner than my current Dometic. So I'm not sure. I think its gonna be Isabella for me next time 🤔
Hi Dan, When abroad with lots of Sun (sometimes), then, you need a roof cover or a second inside lining to keep the heat down. I think I noticed some clips, but does it have them. A must if you are in France during the summer.
To be fair, we only suffered from condensation on our very first awning in the very first outings. Since then we have been able to manage the condensation levels quite well, this awning has some vents in the construction, so i'm not sure if it will be a huge issue. Only time will tell!!
@@TheTrudgians thanks for your reply,we too had issues till we learned about opening the side vents. But the amount of condensation on our roof lining is crazy. We didn’t have one for first few trips and our furniture was soaked..
2017 400 air ace pro with vents open and a non breathable floor (foam mats plus kampa carpet) we still get condensation in the cooler months so have always used the roof lining to capture the drips, which does dry out very quickly.
So they have made their awnings look like vango awnings with the same colour and material. I've had my air vango awning for 9 years now and still going strong
A very nice looking product with some good improvements from previous models. How is the weight as my last air awning which was a 400 in length needed two people to lift it when in the bag & what possible cost.
our 2017 kampa 400 air ace pro is now as grey as this one..another point to note is just like the modern caravans why are the kampa awnings getting deeper meaning more weight and becoming unsuitable for many hard standings size. I was looking at the new 400 air ace pro but decided against it due to these issues.
Id love to know if rain water really does not pool on the roof. Im happy with my dometic air awning but water consistently pools when it rains - very annoying. if this one doesnt collect water I will buy one
I take that as a credit, thank you. You should see the literal 4 hours of footage that i recorded of us babbling on. - Glad i made somthing that came across scripted.
@@TheTrudgiansglad you took the time and effort to get all the information across in what was clearly intended as being a mainly informative video about a specific product.
Thanks for spending time on your channel, we’re new to caravanning just bought a 2016 Coachman VIP, you guys have helped us so much , keep it up 👍👍👍👍
Great to hear! And thanks for the lovely comment.
Having used a Kampa ( now Domentic) awning since new in 2019, we have nothing but praise for the quality and space we get and none of the drawbacks of a poled system. Ease of use and with some generous appllication of Awning Lube, not a problem to slide it into the channel. Effective and great design. (Air Pro 260 plus) We have the advantage of a 'wet' room within the shelter of the awning, A zip-on bedroom Annex adds more sleeping accomodation for extra guests, (although on our particular 'van, this does obstruct access to the toilet cassette, somewhat). A great review and interesting innovations from an already successful company.
Oh dear, sounds like the bank balance will take a hit. Absolutely love the look of this. A really thorough review with great questions from you. It will be interesting to hear what you think in the spring.
Great very informative review, great to here from the manufacturers themselves on the details in design
A really useful video, thank you!
Great review as usual Dan. We are new to caravans (your posts have been brilliant for us). Have a new Evora and now looking at awnings. This Dometic seems good. We like the Isabella Ciruss but a little concerned about the weight.
So, we carry the awning in the car. You can unzip the panels to make it smaller and carry those parts in the caravan (with curtains etc)
The Cirrus and this awning are in very different leagues. If you’re able to visit a dealership that has these on display, the fabric is a very different design.
Thank you for your response. I guess your advice is that the Isabella is the better quality.
Great video Dan, we've had a Kampa/Dometic air 290 since 2017...only issue we had was a burst center roof pole at the same time ripping the roof open, this happend during the extremely hot summer we had a couple of years ago, I believe this was due to expansion from the excessive heat.
I must say Dometic service was excellent the awning was returned to them, the pole and the roof repaired at no cost and returned all within 3 weeks...looking forward seeing this new version at the end of this month.
Brlliant vlog!
Thank you Dan for another very interesting blog, I’m still sitting on the fence to buy an air awning as I’m so unsure, I will give this one some research and see what other sizes are coming out.
I love our club air 440, and having had experience of dometic air awnings when they first come out, the modern versions are much much improved. I do like the new colours.
Looks a great bit of kit thanks Dan
Looks like Dometic has caught up after taking ideas from Telta awnings.
We’ve a Telta Soul and it knocks the socks off the Dometic current awning’s.
Are the Telta awnings as good as the Isabella range?
@@willowhypnotherapyI can’t help you with that, having a motorhome I’ve never had anything from the Isabella range.
I can say that the Telta are fantastic quality.
@@leeb3644 I believe that Telta was established by ex-Kampa employees. My brother-in-law has a Telta and it is great quality.
The black beams make them very dark.
Always loved our Dometic/ Kampa Pro L/H but as 2 disabled pensioners fading fast we cannot put it up due to weight (& we have shrunk!) Had to sell it. Have gone for a much much lighter weight air canopy. Admittedly not so much weather protection but we pack our extras & pick our holiday time acvordingly. Used this summer & suited us well with an airbreak for the extra protection.
Our Kampa never had water pooling with the double angle roof or condensation issues & detachable curtains are good but MUST be easy glide.
Interested to watch this but will never go back to awning from canopy
We have a Kampa Pro 260 never had any issues. When on hard standing pitches we always put a plastic damp proof membrane down under our awning carpet stops the damp coming up from the ground.
Lovely looking awning, we have had a Vango Kalari 2 but the roof light windows deteriorated and split, although this Dometic is a very nice awning, I'm put off by the two roof windows.
I heard that analogy regarding the carrot and radish with a youtube video regarding an Isabella sun canopy a little while ago! (Attwoods?)
I agree great awning.
Be good to know how the weight is affected by the new fabric Dan, thanks.
Battleship grey... think i prefer them in the black. Looks sweet with the ripstop though. Not sure i'll be allowed to buy another awning! :-)
Also never gelled with my Kampa Rally, it always dipped and pooled water. Both standard one and pro one did the same.
I have an air canopy now as an air awning was too heavy when wrapping it up.
Great video Dan. I've gone off awnings due to the faff and having had 2 damaged.
Not a huge fan of the grey, thought we got over that now. Id like a bit more colour init
be interested to see how the doors unzip (part down / fully etc) to allow air in but keep dogs inside and also be fully removed/stored if not needed. Thanks
We always had screen rooms we are thinking about an air awning. First question we are looking at motorhomes or 5th wheels can these awnings be customized to size. Also has Dometic addressed slide outs. Mike & Sue
Great video Dan. Love this sort of stuff! We have an old Kampa air ace that we bought second hand and have been looking for a newer alternative recently. This new version answers so many of the old complaints and looks really smart. Would be interested to know the size options, weights and costs. Thanks
Hopefully I should be able to answer some of those questions when I borrow one next year, but details will be out soon on the Dometic website, and also dometic dealers too.
Looks like a Vango I have the Balletto Prosheild lots of similarities
Hi Dan. Are there insect screens behind the windows so you can ventilate the awning on hot days but keep the bugs out?
Great vlog Dan, when will it likely be on general sale?
Unsure as yet, i do know it will be for public viewing at the NEC, so maybe pre orders then?
Hope the stitching is better than my previous Domestic Rally 380. I had to return it and the replacement wasn't much better ... The fabric started to fade after 4 weeks use, obviously this one is a lighter colour ... The dual piping feed for the awning rail is an absolute nightmare. The unused channel piping for motorhomes fitment grips against the caravan when pulling it into the awning channel ... Finally even though its ripstop fabric it looks much thinner than my current Dometic. So I'm not sure. I think its gonna be Isabella for me next time 🤔
Hi Dan,
When abroad with lots of Sun (sometimes), then, you need a roof cover or a second inside lining to keep the heat down. I think I noticed some clips, but does it have them. A must if you are in France during the summer.
Dan,you said it’s so bright in there but no roof lining was fitted. You need one or it’ll be drenched with condensation otherwise.
To be fair, we only suffered from condensation on our very first awning in the very first outings. Since then we have been able to manage the condensation levels quite well, this awning has some vents in the construction, so i'm not sure if it will be a huge issue. Only time will tell!!
@@TheTrudgians thanks for your reply,we too had issues till we learned about opening the side vents. But the amount of condensation on our roof lining is crazy. We didn’t have one for first few trips and our furniture was soaked..
2017 400 air ace pro with vents open and a non breathable floor (foam mats plus kampa carpet) we still get condensation in the cooler months so have always used the roof lining to capture the drips, which does dry out very quickly.
It would have been good to see it on uneven ground, somewhere like sandygulls in Norfolk, if it works there it will work anywhere.
So they have made their awnings look like vango awnings with the same colour and material. I've had my air vango awning for 9 years now and still going strong
A very nice looking product with some good improvements from previous models. How is the weight as my last air awning which was a 400 in length needed two people to lift it when in the bag & what possible cost.
Sadly dont kno wthe "tech specs" just yet, More details will be out on the Dometic website and also the dealers will be getting the information too.
our 2017 kampa 400 air ace pro is now as grey as this one..another point to note is just like the modern caravans why are the kampa awnings getting deeper meaning more weight and becoming unsuitable for many hard standings size. I was looking at the new 400 air ace pro but decided against it due to these issues.
Id love to know if rain water really does not pool on the roof. Im happy with my dometic air awning but water consistently pools when it rains - very annoying. if this one doesnt collect water I will buy one
Hi Dan I've had to move to a seasonal pitch recently, do you know if this material is suitable for being erected for 8 months per year without damage?
Thats a great question. And personally, I dont know - I think in seasonal occasions, pole is best.
Looks like they just brought a TELTA and made it a different colour
In new zealand , I don't like it light roof. With our sun and high UV ,we would bake under neath it. So a no go product for us over summer
The colour is not new we have had 2 dometic awnings in black and both have faded to grey in less than a years use
I'm going to stick with my isabella magnum i think its going to last forever
Don't bother with Dometic, get yourself a Telta awning
The new colour is awful. Much prefer our black one.
Sorry look too scripted
I take that as a credit, thank you. You should see the literal 4 hours of footage that i recorded of us babbling on. - Glad i made somthing that came across scripted.
@@TheTrudgiansglad you took the time and effort to get all the information across in what was clearly intended as being a mainly informative video about a specific product.