There is zero reason to make a motherboard like that with the cooling like that if you are not making a laptop. Somebody either screwed up or got a massive deal on these boards and thought "let's make a case and sell them as PC"
I’ll be waiting for a Ryzen based version of this. Minisforum + Ryzen I’ve had great results with as gifts for parents and grandparents. Reliable, small, very little tech support needed.
It's clearly just a headless laptop. It's a very high end current headless laptop but that's what it is. You could pretty easily buy a laptop with a broken display, 3d print, or have a 3d print case made and you are in this same place. This form factor just seemed weird to me. If there were keyed holes to mount this on the wall behind your monitor and have the front do the majority of the ventilation sure. If it was flatter and had some feet and was designed to be a horizontal desktop that a monitor sat on? Sure 100%. But as it stands? Yeah it's super narrow but it's massively tall. It's really awkward to work into most setups. And the vent location means it has to either be upside down or vertical...just weird choices.
"You could pretty easily buy a laptop with a broken display, 3d print, or have a 3d print case made and you are in this same place". Don't you realize how stupid is your statement ? Probably not
Normally I'd disagree with classifying mini PCs as headless laptops, but one look at the component arrangement shows it's completely identical to a typical laptop setup for cooling, I/O, everything else. Laptops are long and wide precisely due to screen, keyboard and battery and none of that is needed here. Regular boxy mini PCs allow for beefier coolers with better thermals.
@@ReirainsongOne of the perks of this is that the form factor allows for beefier cooling, allowing it to boost its laptop 4070 to 120W and stay there under load. Instead of thermal throttling or limiting to 90w like most gaming laptops with the same card.
That title is exactly what this device is. A lot of people are knocking it for only having a laptop 4070, but its a miscategorization of the device. Cut down ada is less than perfect, sure, but its still an interesting form-factor to look at.
A friend just lost his 14th gen i9 CPU a week ago. When the CPU fried, it took 2 DDR5 sticks to silicon heaven along with it. Don't trust anything Intel says. Skip 13th and 14th gen. Either go with AMD, or wait till 15th gen is out and been on the market for half a year. Avoid these machines, unless you plan to upgrade again in about a year and have money falling out of your behind.
I really like this but the I/O is so anemic. A mouse and kb uses up all the front USB and there isn't exactly a lot on the back. I get space considerations but no one buys something like this and then wants dongles hanging off it all the time.
I have the direct predecessor Minisforum NUCXi7 and am absolutely satisfied. Extremely quiet compared to a gaming laptop and has been running for almost 1 1/2 years without any problems
maybe a good one to indeed test LTT PTM7950 thermal pad out on, but also compare the der8auer thermal grizzly kryosheets with! could be a good video, maybe.
MinisForum was _this close;_ they could have had a removable panel on one side with screws, provided security screws, and replaceable bezels to disable some functions physically for use in cyber cafés.
I was for this thing at first, but the price... I dunno, maybe I'm being a tight-ass, but ~$1200 for a gaming laptop with no monitor, keyboard, or trackpad seems too high.
honestly this thing seems perfect for those trying to preserve desk space and want a prebuilt upgrade from something they (maybe) bought in late 2016 lol - gonna get to grinding and get myself one i think
This is based on an Intel NUC laptop reference design. I have an older version sold by Minisforum and I've been generally happy with it apart from the limited IO.
I kinda love the form factor. Still small enough to tuck behind a monitor, but big enough that I could actually get my hands in there to do a component swap without struggling, and powerful enough to be a good daily driver.
When people ask about what happened to the desktop computers that would sit under your monitor, this is the modern equivalent. Although I guess it's going to sit behind/beside your flat panel. Smaller than SFF.
I love seeing unique products, form factors, configurations, etc. hit the market. The general market tends to be pretty conservative so it's nice to see new ideas actually make it out the door. But man am I really struggling to justify this one LOL. I'm just not sure how it ever makes more sense than other options on the market - laptops of course(I mean, you can hook up an external monitor to them too🤷), SFF options(from OEM to specialized, to custom), not to mention some of the discrete GPU-equipped mini-PCs(which are often basically just what this is?). I'm trying to like it, I really am😆
It could be a paste issue, but don't discount it being a fan speed issue. I find Mobile fans usually err on the side of noise instead of thermals. Disconnecting the PWM wire (which may get quite loud) is an easy way to verify potential cooling capacity. Now we are curious what laptop this motherboard could fit in. Although I can see this being a great use for last gen laptop hardware, put a newer motherboard in the laptop shell and sell the old board as a 'desktop'
A headless laptop in search of a reason. I don't understand where it fits... I would rather have an ITX board in an appropriate case; get the option of GPU choice, case choice, PSU choice... For a small 'all in one' it's way too big. Maybe look at the Beelinks and similar... Laptops, there are 'gaming' and 'content creation' laptops like the Gigabyte Aero 15 I own. Where does this fit and what does it provide that is an improvement of the other choices...
It should be noted that even a cheap laptop with similar specs is going to run you $600-$800 more. Ive been using my dancase a4-sfx for nearly a decade, and the whole sff scene has become a nightmare when it comes to finding parts that fit and are affordable. You might see it as a "headless laptop", i see it as a "consolized pc"
What I'm hoping for is a lapdock style device with an 18 inch 2560x1600 500 nits monitor or better, takes some common Lenovo laptop keyboard with a numpad and has a 100Wh battery. Preferably with a stiff hinge so that I can mount a GPD Pocket 4 on the back of the monitor as it's brain and secondary monitor. Then I would only need one client computer for the next few years. If it can mount a small eGPU on the back of the monitor that would be even better.
I know this is probably a bit of a fringe use case but something like this as a gaming focused “blade” server for those of us doing our own cloud gaming setup would be fun. But that said, better to just get a Sliger 3u and just do m.2 and two VMs per case will probably out perform it
A laptop with a broken screen that was ripped off and replaced with plastic? Buck fifty is all I can do. Wait, what? It has a 14900? Can't help ya. I'll dispose of it for free if you like.
interesting, I would not mind a few bumps here and there, kind of like a hood scoop on a car allowing larger better cooling. Would be neat to see a clear shell on it with some added fans etc. mess around with the cooling a bit.
I wonder if there is a watt difference between the 4070 in G7 Ti / G7 Ti SE. It only says 140W on the store page, but it could still be a case where the G7 Ti is 140W, but the G7 Ti SE is slightly less.
Oof. A 4070 mobile is a 4060Ti desktop? I bought a 3080 16GB MXM card for $300, not sure where that lands on the value scale. Feel like that might be faster. It has a 165w TDP and I had to buy a $260 Clevo to put it in.
14.99$ for the pads is a cashgrab for the thermalpads, because they cost $1 as sheet. You have forgotten to mention how expensive this "litte, nice" machine is...
I don't know if MXM is dead or something but if you're selling a desktop replacement, giving users the ability to upgrade the GPU would be a huge benefit over just a laptop. It takes up quite a bit of space, given it has no battery, it can even house a couple of 2.5" drives as a workstation giving the user built in storage and ideally leaving any external storage at home.
Is the P core E core trend not going to be a nightmare for Linux? Seems like they keep changing the types of cores (efficient, super efficient). AMD is heading in this direction too.
@@rawhide_kobayashi my concern is if manufacturers cannot make up their mind it becomes messy to maintain from the kernel/scheduler perspective. We've got P cores E cores, super E cores, NPUs, probably more coming.
@@BAD_CONSUMER It's not that complicated. It's literally *already a thing* . They just report the performance characteristics per core wrt to max perf and energy efficiency and the scheduler already knows how to utilize it. And it's used for *more* than just heterogenous core design - they've been reporting the quality of *individual cores* for years and years now, and the scheduler (on both windows and linux) takes that into account.
That's one of the very few places where you can get PTM7950 as a regular consumer and know that you're getting the real thing. That's (presumably) why Wendell is pointing it out.
@@Blacklands You obviously weren't paying attention at 1:17 I love Wendell and the content he produces, but shilling for a multimillionaire who buys supercars on a whim is unnecessary
@@alejandrolomeli6871 The screwdriver is pretty good. (Do you really think Wendell would use it otherwise?) You can look up tests for it if you don't believe it, e.g. Project Farm. You could say that it's too expensive, maybe, although good ratcheting screwdrivers aren't that cheap.
another Mini PC seriously Wendell I need you to explain what is the point of this it's a laptop that you have to have a separate display for it's the price of a laptop why not just buy a laptop furthermore why don't you start doing bios dumps on these mini PCS
@@ssdaqwe2578what do you mean by "especially non-desktop". As Wendell said laptop cpu's 'should' run in the safe voltage limit, as opposed to the desktop chips
@ThaaaaGoat they have gone downhill greatly over the years. They crank out meh content that is just paid ads basically now a days. Well, have for a few years. Linus bought a giant house and turned it into a series of free stuff for his house videos, most with insane priced gear. Their store used to sell t shirts and mouse pads. Now, they have the most overpriced and over packaged screwdriver and desk cable management system that are just dumb. Years ago they did stuff other than reviews that are paid ads. Now that is their bread and butter. We need to stop supporting bad channels like that and support people like Level 1 and their Linux channel.
You almost can't get PTM7950 anywhere else as a regular consumer and know that you're getting the real thing - on LTT's store you can. And they don't seem to upsell it much, either. Even if you don't like the things they are making themselves, in this case it can be worth it buying there.
I don't understand the purpose of these. Why would you intentionally limit yourself with that form factor? Why would you purchase this over a standard desktop? I don't get it. $1400? Intel chips? Hard Pass!!!
Look at it from the "dad gamer" perspective. I picked one up because _,although I love to DIY pcs,_ I don't have time, or room for it anymore. It's a lot easier to get a *_"consolized"_* gaming pc and hook that up to the TV instead of spending an extra $800-$900 on a similarly spec'd laptop.
a laptop that doesn't sit on top of a lap, what a time to be alive
We said the same thing about netbooks , aka chromebooks. They are not that popular now but they had a good run
2:31 right above the M.2 connectors is a vestigial BATT connector. Pretty safe to say this was a laptop mainboard. Likely why it has such anemic IO.
There is zero reason to make a motherboard like that with the cooling like that if you are not making a laptop. Somebody either screwed up or got a massive deal on these boards and thought "let's make a case and sell them as PC"
@@marcogenovesi8570 I read someplace the Cybertruck PC also is some reused laptop motherboard too.
I’ll be waiting for a Ryzen based version of this. Minisforum + Ryzen I’ve had great results with as gifts for parents and grandparents. Reliable, small, very little tech support needed.
Good to know!😊
Yep. My Minis HX100G agrees with you.
Isn't that one: AtomMan G7 PT ?
It's clearly just a headless laptop. It's a very high end current headless laptop but that's what it is. You could pretty easily buy a laptop with a broken display, 3d print, or have a 3d print case made and you are in this same place. This form factor just seemed weird to me. If there were keyed holes to mount this on the wall behind your monitor and have the front do the majority of the ventilation sure. If it was flatter and had some feet and was designed to be a horizontal desktop that a monitor sat on? Sure 100%. But as it stands? Yeah it's super narrow but it's massively tall. It's really awkward to work into most setups. And the vent location means it has to either be upside down or vertical...just weird choices.
"You could pretty easily buy a laptop with a broken display, 3d print, or have a 3d print case made and you are in this same place".
Don't you realize how stupid is your statement ? Probably not
And when it's on the vertical stand the power plug is on the top...
Normally I'd disagree with classifying mini PCs as headless laptops, but one look at the component arrangement shows it's completely identical to a typical laptop setup for cooling, I/O, everything else. Laptops are long and wide precisely due to screen, keyboard and battery and none of that is needed here. Regular boxy mini PCs allow for beefier coolers with better thermals.
it's a NUC
@@ReirainsongOne of the perks of this is that the form factor allows for beefier cooling, allowing it to boost its laptop 4070 to 120W and stay there under load.
Instead of thermal throttling or limiting to 90w like most gaming laptops with the same card.
That title is exactly what this device is. A lot of people are knocking it for only having a laptop 4070, but its a miscategorization of the device. Cut down ada is less than perfect, sure, but its still an interesting form-factor to look at.
It’s different laptop 4070 are locked to like 65-90 watt draw this can draw up to 140w the full amount as a desktop
2:54 hmm, yes, nice wood
BONK
Go to horny jail for checking out Wendell’s wood.
* for reference
A friend just lost his 14th gen i9 CPU a week ago. When the CPU fried, it took 2 DDR5 sticks to silicon heaven along with it. Don't trust anything Intel says. Skip 13th and 14th gen. Either go with AMD, or wait till 15th gen is out and been on the market for half a year. Avoid these machines, unless you plan to upgrade again in about a year and have money falling out of your behind.
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I really like this but the I/O is so anemic. A mouse and kb uses up all the front USB and there isn't exactly a lot on the back. I get space considerations but no one buys something like this and then wants dongles hanging off it all the time.
It's a laptop, but I agree they could have invested a little and added a decent usb 3.0 hub somewhere in the chassis for connectivity
should have made the base/foot into a usb hub.
I have the direct predecessor Minisforum NUCXi7 and am absolutely satisfied.
Extremely quiet compared to a gaming laptop and has been running for almost 1 1/2 years without any problems
Almost $1300? PASS...
maybe a good one to indeed test LTT PTM7950 thermal pad out on, but also compare the der8auer thermal grizzly kryosheets with! could be a good video, maybe.
MinisForum was _this close;_ they could have had a removable panel on one side with screws, provided security screws, and replaceable bezels to disable some functions physically for use in cyber cafés.
I was for this thing at first, but the price... I dunno, maybe I'm being a tight-ass, but ~$1200 for a gaming laptop with no monitor, keyboard, or trackpad seems too high.
If you're patient, it will be half that in 6 months. I nabbed an older version of this (12th gen i7, 32gb ram, 3070) for under $650 last year.
Bro for the $1200 SKU you don't get RAM or SSD either lmao
Its more than $1200
honestly this thing seems perfect for those trying to preserve desk space and want a prebuilt upgrade from something they (maybe) bought in late 2016 lol - gonna get to grinding and get myself one i think
This is based on an Intel NUC laptop reference design. I have an older version sold by Minisforum and I've been generally happy with it apart from the limited IO.
I kinda love the form factor. Still small enough to tuck behind a monitor, but big enough that I could actually get my hands in there to do a component swap without struggling, and powerful enough to be a good daily driver.
MinisFourm mini PCs are fantastic bits of kit, rocking an HX99G as my main Linux gaming rig. Great content!
When people ask about what happened to the desktop computers that would sit under your monitor, this is the modern equivalent. Although I guess it's going to sit behind/beside your flat panel. Smaller than SFF.
10:10 I think the ending card is scaled wrong(Don't take this as a criticism; take this as free engagement for the algorithm! :P)
Omg something I always wanted finally exists! 😅 thanks Wendell!
I love seeing unique products, form factors, configurations, etc. hit the market. The general market tends to be pretty conservative so it's nice to see new ideas actually make it out the door.
But man am I really struggling to justify this one LOL. I'm just not sure how it ever makes more sense than other options on the market - laptops of course(I mean, you can hook up an external monitor to them too🤷), SFF options(from OEM to specialized, to custom), not to mention some of the discrete GPU-equipped mini-PCs(which are often basically just what this is?).
I'm trying to like it, I really am😆
I think a female and male vesa mount on the front and back would have been an interesting idea for having it mountable on the back of a monitor.
It could be a paste issue, but don't discount it being a fan speed issue. I find Mobile fans usually err on the side of noise instead of thermals. Disconnecting the PWM wire (which may get quite loud) is an easy way to verify potential cooling capacity.
Now we are curious what laptop this motherboard could fit in. Although I can see this being a great use for last gen laptop hardware, put a newer motherboard in the laptop shell and sell the old board as a 'desktop'
This seems like a good way for laptop manufacturers to give more options without purposefully designing new hardware.
Don't care what anyone says, you can't not like Wendell and his infectious enthusiasm for technology. World needs more Wendells.
Definitely getting one of them to produce my music on
A headless laptop in search of a reason. I don't understand where it fits... I would rather have an ITX board in an appropriate case; get the option of GPU choice, case choice, PSU choice... For a small 'all in one' it's way too big. Maybe look at the Beelinks and similar... Laptops, there are 'gaming' and 'content creation' laptops like the Gigabyte Aero 15 I own. Where does this fit and what does it provide that is an improvement of the other choices...
It should be noted that even a cheap laptop with similar specs is going to run you $600-$800 more.
Ive been using my dancase a4-sfx for nearly a decade, and the whole sff scene has become a nightmare when it comes to finding parts that fit and are affordable.
You might see it as a "headless laptop", i see it as a "consolized pc"
What I'm hoping for is a lapdock style device with an 18 inch 2560x1600 500 nits monitor or better, takes some common Lenovo laptop keyboard with a numpad and has a 100Wh battery.
Preferably with a stiff hinge so that I can mount a GPD Pocket 4 on the back of the monitor as it's brain and secondary monitor. Then I would only need one client computer for the next few years.
If it can mount a small eGPU on the back of the monitor that would be even better.
I have had the last generation of this for a while now, no complaints, i overpayed a bit for its miniaturization
When you truly compare the cost of sff stuff, it's a deal.
I know this is probably a bit of a fringe use case but something like this as a gaming focused “blade” server for those of us doing our own cloud gaming setup would be fun.
But that said, better to just get a Sliger 3u and just do m.2 and two VMs per case will probably out perform it
Thank you.
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IF YOU WIRED IN A PCIE X16 PORT
YOU PRODUCT SALES WILL PUMP.
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NOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL.
Thank you, Wendell. 🙏🏼
Each time I watch one of your videos, I learn Cool New Stuff. 🤗
P/S: The check is in the mail. 💸
Good thing they didn't add a keyboard either. Spilling a drink would be a very expensive mistake.
Would probably be worth it to find the undervolt sweetspot for the CPU and GPU, as with so many others.
I'm watching this on a laptop with no lower half, only the screen! AKA a monitor!
4:25 This is Fine XD 1.469V max. voltage for a laptop CPU (might be short spike, but those spikes are not healthy either)
A laptop with a broken screen that was ripped off and replaced with plastic? Buck fifty is all I can do. Wait, what? It has a 14900? Can't help ya. I'll dispose of it for free if you like.
interesting, I would not mind a few bumps here and there, kind of like a hood scoop on a car allowing larger better cooling. Would be neat to see a clear shell on it with some added fans etc. mess around with the cooling a bit.
>laptop with no screen
i was expecting a built in keyboard for some reason; a return of c64/amiga breadbox style
I would like it better with laptop keyboard on top.
It reminds me of the Raspberry Pi 400 in a way, but this is using an x86 CPU. Kinda like modern versions of the microcomputer.
That's what all these mini PC's are, laptop without the screen or the battery
Cool product
I think they intended it to be a game console, for the living room.
I wonder if there is a watt difference between the 4070 in G7 Ti / G7 Ti SE. It only says 140W on the store page, but it could still be a case where the G7 Ti is 140W, but the G7 Ti SE is slightly less.
Oof. A 4070 mobile is a 4060Ti desktop? I bought a 3080 16GB MXM card for $300, not sure where that lands on the value scale. Feel like that might be faster. It has a 165w TDP and I had to buy a $260 Clevo to put it in.
I would use it as a monitor stand.
14.99$ for the pads is a cashgrab for the thermalpads, because they cost $1 as sheet.
You have forgotten to mention how expensive this "litte, nice" machine is...
I don't know if MXM is dead or something but if you're selling a desktop replacement, giving users the ability to upgrade the GPU would be a huge benefit over just a laptop. It takes up quite a bit of space, given it has no battery, it can even house a couple of 2.5" drives as a workstation giving the user built in storage and ideally leaving any external storage at home.
It would be so much cooler with an integrated keyboard tbh to save space
This is a PS5
more of a ps5 shape would make it less tippy
Wondering what results would show looped for at least 60-90 minutes Corona benchmark.
Is minisforum is just throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. I’m not overly opposed to this.
Minisforum Atoman G7 PT (VS) Atoman G7 Ti - which is better?
Very clearly the G7ti lmao
I'm more interested on the story that got us here with a gaming laptop motherboard used as a SFF desktop PC. What happened, how many people were hurt
sweet
You tortured the poor thing for 20 mins without the fan boost? how cruel
Does G-sync work?
Do we know what kinda watch Wendell wears?
I wonder what SteamOS would be like on it
But ya no, this is a no go device.
Great review tho. I won't touch a mini pc with out real gpu access.
Maybe for mom or grandma
min 2 HDMI out, leave the battery in, and make the base into a hub
Can you make it up to 8 tb then !!
Did he say Brobdingnagian? What kind of geek....? Never mind.
"it should be within the safe envelope"
didn't alderon games report failing i5 laptops?
I feel like if they had a 4080m option i would of bought it
at 2755 & 14544 in Geekbench it has nearly exact same score as my i5-13600KF with DDR4. Mildly dissapointing for an i9-14900 * DDR5, no?
Is the P core E core trend not going to be a nightmare for Linux? Seems like they keep changing the types of cores (efficient, super efficient).
AMD is heading in this direction too.
Why would it [be] a nightmare rather than [currently be] a nightmare? But no, linux has handled it fine from day one.
Linux seems to handle these heterogeneous core topologies better than Windows.
@@rawhide_kobayashi my concern is if manufacturers cannot make up their mind it becomes messy to maintain from the kernel/scheduler perspective.
We've got P cores E cores, super E cores, NPUs, probably more coming.
@@BAD_CONSUMER It's not that complicated. It's literally *already a thing* . They just report the performance characteristics per core wrt to max perf and energy efficiency and the scheduler already knows how to utilize it. And it's used for *more* than just heterogenous core design - they've been reporting the quality of *individual cores* for years and years now, and the scheduler (on both windows and linux) takes that into account.
thick-ish thin client
MinisForum AtomMan G7 Ti vs MinisForum AtomMan G7 Pt
So its a vertically docked laptop.
This is so much of a laptop that they used flattened heatpipes. 😕
thanks for the vid
Only 8GB VRAM!
So... it is MinisForum's rendition of Intel's (now Asus') NUC.
Why should I pick this over other cheaper ones with desktop tier processors?
If it had a mobile 4080 it would be worth the 1000+
But mobile 4070? Sheesh...
Their cheaper ones don't have dedicated GPUs. This is for gaming.
Intel? No thx, I'm allergic. For the last 25 years.
ONE USB port on the back? *yawn*
Pls stop shilling for that Weasel-Linus.
It's trying to be a straight PS5 ?
Incredible
Linus makes more than enough money doing sponsored "reviews". Please don't promote his merch
That's one of the very few places where you can get PTM7950 as a regular consumer and know that you're getting the real thing. That's (presumably) why Wendell is pointing it out.
@@Blacklands You obviously weren't paying attention at 1:17
I love Wendell and the content he produces, but shilling for a multimillionaire who buys supercars on a whim is unnecessary
@@alejandrolomeli6871 The screwdriver is pretty good. (Do you really think Wendell would use it otherwise?) You can look up tests for it if you don't believe it, e.g. Project Farm. You could say that it's too expensive, maybe, although good ratcheting screwdrivers aren't that cheap.
loud as jet engine while gaming. Minisforum G7 pt much better
another Mini PC seriously Wendell I need you to explain what is the point of this it's a laptop that you have to have a separate display for it's the price of a laptop why not just buy a laptop furthermore why don't you start doing bios dumps on these mini PCS
Just stay away from anything intel 13th and 14th gen especially non desktop.
Are you smarter than Wendell who did the investigation himself and says complete the other way?
@@codyrap95smart people are not always right on everything and thats beside the point, we will see who is smarter when the cpu dies
@@ssdaqwe2578desktop cpu's were dying before the laptop CPU's lol
@@game-tea I think you misunderstood my point
@@ssdaqwe2578what do you mean by "especially non-desktop". As Wendell said laptop cpu's 'should' run in the safe voltage limit, as opposed to the desktop chips
2:55 nice table
I dont really see a point to this.
Too bad it's an nvidia gpu, cuz this thing yearns for SteamOS
It's perfect for a VR backpack!
$1400 with no ram? Barebones? Hard pass.
Don't give LTT money!
I'm out of the loop, and haven't followed them for since they moved out of the house. Could you please give me a short summary what happened?
@ThaaaaGoat they have gone downhill greatly over the years. They crank out meh content that is just paid ads basically now a days. Well, have for a few years. Linus bought a giant house and turned it into a series of free stuff for his house videos, most with insane priced gear. Their store used to sell t shirts and mouse pads. Now, they have the most overpriced and over packaged screwdriver and desk cable management system that are just dumb. Years ago they did stuff other than reviews that are paid ads. Now that is their bread and butter. We need to stop supporting bad channels like that and support people like Level 1 and their Linux channel.
You almost can't get PTM7950 anywhere else as a regular consumer and know that you're getting the real thing - on LTT's store you can. And they don't seem to upsell it much, either. Even if you don't like the things they are making themselves, in this case it can be worth it buying there.
$1600 USD? LOL
I don't understand the purpose of these. Why would you intentionally limit yourself with that form factor? Why would you purchase this over a standard desktop? I don't get it. $1400? Intel chips? Hard Pass!!!
Look at it from the "dad gamer" perspective.
I picked one up because _,although I love to DIY pcs,_ I don't have time, or room for it anymore. It's a lot easier to get a *_"consolized"_* gaming pc and hook that up to the TV instead of spending an extra $800-$900 on a similarly spec'd laptop.
Oh it's an Intel? Goodbye...
Too much for what it is
A laptop without a screen, is about as valid as a youtuber who promotes LTT.
too expensive very strong cpu on very weak gpu for that cpu. poor combo!
Boo no oculink.
Only 1G ethernet when most of their stuff is 2.5/5G?
This is a laptop motherboard, it comes with whatever ethernet it had on it
...what? At 0:55, Wendell said it's 2.5 Gbit/s.