Queen Barb hates pop because she actually really enjoys it. Her tantrum was full of her complaining about how much it takes up her every waking thought and how much it invades her very being. Being the QUEEN of the hard rock trolls, she believes she's not allowed to like anything but Hard Rock. The movie hints multiple times that these genre tags are arbitrary. Poppy enjoys all the music except for country because she can't relate to it, but Branch really vibed with it! Guy Diamond is full of electronica sounds, Cooper physically looks like a Funk troll and loves funk sound in his music. When he finds the funk trolls, he exclaims that he's BOTH a pop AND funk troll. Prince D explains to Poppy that all the strings were together on a harp, and one troll steals the harp to play a single tune on it, so the other founders take an arbitrary string and form their subcultures with trolls that like the same feel, message, and sound as they do. The pop trolls liked it all. When the strings are broken, they all turn grey with sadness but quickly realize that the strings were only a vehicle for their self-expression. That the tribes were just groupings of like-minded individuals so far removed from the founders that they've created complex tastes like Branch, like Cooper, like Guy Diamond, and like Queen Barb. The pop trolls represent the harmful melting pot ideal of Americana, that we are all the same because we are all one species on this planet. But, it's a melting pot poured into a mold of an average. Branch tells Poppy that you can't do that, you have to let everyone play their own notes to create a harmony, to create a unified human experience. That we need to hear the soul in its musical vehicle in order to appreciate it. That's why tribes like the K-Pop trolls exist. It's not that there is a Troll Korea, it's that there's trolls that exist that sing to the tune and message of K-Pop. Trolls World Tour was really a nuanced and surprisingly ACCURATE depiction of American Pop Music. It's my personal favorite in the trilogy. I think if we look beyond the silly vehicle, we can appreciate the soul in this story.
I enjoyed hearing your overview on musical history as reflected in this movie, but I think the movie was aiming for social history with the groups representing social groups rather than musical movements throughout history. Pop added to any other genre often becomes pop and this tendency towards assimilation can be compared to imperialism. The movie had a lot of elements of critical race theory. Poppy had genuinely good intentions, but without a knowledge of history and how the past impacts the present, she had a skewed measure of what the road to peace should look like. The lesson she learned by the end was to celebrate and make a space for differences. While it was not her fault what had happened in the past, if she really cared about peace, she carried some of the responsibility to make things right. I honestly thought the movie was very thoughtfully put together in terms of achieving its message.
Growing up, my favorite bands were Breaking Benjamin and Icon for Hire. Starset has recently joined them in that pantheon. People claim that "Divisions" is their weakest album, but it sports two of my favorite songs of all time: "Echo" and "Diving Bell." Set It Off is more punk than rock, but I also really enjoy their music.
You can't go wrong with the classics! The only Beatles song I can't stand is "Yellow Submarine" because it played on a loop for HOURS at my old job. Other than that, their discography is excellent.
@ The Beatles were nigh-Shakespearian in their versatility, doing everything from the nonsense poem whimsy of “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” to the poignant mood setting of “Norwegian Wood” to the absolute heartache of “She’s leaving home” and “Eleanor Rigby”. And the best thing of all is how no one engineered them to happen. They were just four friends who got together in a club and started singing and it turned out their music was just what the world needed back then. Really, the best rock songs are basically just short stories in musical form, and that’s true of the Beatles and of Bruce Springsteen and of Bob Dylan as well.
I think you are taking what the hip hop trolls are saying and twisting it. They are not saying “what about what you are doing” they are saying the pop trolls have a history of stealing from the other music trolls as well. I think you are also taking their words out of context where in a hip hop is remixing things, but also ignoring how the culture of sampling works in hip hop. It is not with the intention to over look the owner. It is also ignorant to say that pop hasn’t stolen and taken credit from traditionally black music. I think you are ignoring the racial undertones of that scene.
Please tell me your hatred of country music just extends to that horrible “Guns, Trucks, and Jesus” garbage that got popular around the 2000s, and not “The Devil went down to Georgia” or Kenny Rogers or Garth Brooks or Johnny Cash or any of the old school stuff before W ruined everything.
Been following your channel since the Fantastic Mr Fox video. I hope you continue on the video essays for a long time. They are an absolute delight.
Thank you so much!
Queen Barb hates pop because she actually really enjoys it. Her tantrum was full of her complaining about how much it takes up her every waking thought and how much it invades her very being. Being the QUEEN of the hard rock trolls, she believes she's not allowed to like anything but Hard Rock.
The movie hints multiple times that these genre tags are arbitrary. Poppy enjoys all the music except for country because she can't relate to it, but Branch really vibed with it! Guy Diamond is full of electronica sounds, Cooper physically looks like a Funk troll and loves funk sound in his music. When he finds the funk trolls, he exclaims that he's BOTH a pop AND funk troll.
Prince D explains to Poppy that all the strings were together on a harp, and one troll steals the harp to play a single tune on it, so the other founders take an arbitrary string and form their subcultures with trolls that like the same feel, message, and sound as they do. The pop trolls liked it all.
When the strings are broken, they all turn grey with sadness but quickly realize that the strings were only a vehicle for their self-expression. That the tribes were just groupings of like-minded individuals so far removed from the founders that they've created complex tastes like Branch, like Cooper, like Guy Diamond, and like Queen Barb.
The pop trolls represent the harmful melting pot ideal of Americana, that we are all the same because we are all one species on this planet. But, it's a melting pot poured into a mold of an average. Branch tells Poppy that you can't do that, you have to let everyone play their own notes to create a harmony, to create a unified human experience. That we need to hear the soul in its musical vehicle in order to appreciate it. That's why tribes like the K-Pop trolls exist. It's not that there is a Troll Korea, it's that there's trolls that exist that sing to the tune and message of K-Pop.
Trolls World Tour was really a nuanced and surprisingly ACCURATE depiction of American Pop Music. It's my personal favorite in the trilogy. I think if we look beyond the silly vehicle, we can appreciate the soul in this story.
I enjoyed hearing your overview on musical history as reflected in this movie, but I think the movie was aiming for social history with the groups representing social groups rather than musical movements throughout history. Pop added to any other genre often becomes pop and this tendency towards assimilation can be compared to imperialism. The movie had a lot of elements of critical race theory. Poppy had genuinely good intentions, but without a knowledge of history and how the past impacts the present, she had a skewed measure of what the road to peace should look like. The lesson she learned by the end was to celebrate and make a space for differences. While it was not her fault what had happened in the past, if she really cared about peace, she carried some of the responsibility to make things right. I honestly thought the movie was very thoughtfully put together in terms of achieving its message.
Andrew Randell’s voice will always be Harley to me
Trolls world tour characters 6/10
So which rock artists are your personal favourites?
Growing up, my favorite bands were Breaking Benjamin and Icon for Hire. Starset has recently joined them in that pantheon. People claim that "Divisions" is their weakest album, but it sports two of my favorite songs of all time: "Echo" and "Diving Bell." Set It Off is more punk than rock, but I also really enjoy their music.
@@JennyCook57My personal faves will always be the Classics: Dylan, the Beatles, Springsteen, the old school stuff on which I grew up.
You can't go wrong with the classics! The only Beatles song I can't stand is "Yellow Submarine" because it played on a loop for HOURS at my old job. Other than that, their discography is excellent.
@ The Beatles were nigh-Shakespearian in their versatility, doing everything from the nonsense poem whimsy of “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” to the poignant mood setting of “Norwegian Wood” to the absolute heartache of “She’s leaving home” and “Eleanor Rigby”. And the best thing of all is how no one engineered them to happen. They were just four friends who got together in a club and started singing and it turned out their music was just what the world needed back then.
Really, the best rock songs are basically just short stories in musical form, and that’s true of the Beatles and of Bruce Springsteen and of Bob Dylan as well.
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I think you are taking what the hip
hop trolls are saying and twisting it. They are not saying “what about what you are doing” they are saying the pop trolls have a history of stealing from the other music trolls as well. I think you are also taking their words out of context where in a hip hop is remixing things, but also ignoring how the culture of sampling works in hip hop. It is not with the intention to over look the owner. It is also ignorant to say that pop hasn’t stolen and taken credit from traditionally black music. I think you are ignoring the racial undertones of that scene.
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I really need to rewatch that show! It's been ages since I first binged it.
Trolls characters 3/10
Please tell me your hatred of country music just extends to that horrible “Guns, Trucks, and Jesus” garbage that got popular around the 2000s, and not “The Devil went down to Georgia” or Kenny Rogers or Garth Brooks or Johnny Cash or any of the old school stuff before W ruined everything.