One Last Time: Do Not be The Next Victim of Faulty Ford F-150 6R80 Transmission Cooler Lines!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ต.ค. 2022
- In this video we go over a real problem plaquing the otherwise reliable Ford 6R80 transmissions. This is the last time I am going to say it please be aware of this failure and what to look out for so you can prevent costly unnecessary repairs.
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I don't think some people realize you were a Ford dealer mechanic for years before you opened your own shop. Thanks for all the Info!
Yup and now all do is work F-150s it seems, so I know them pretty well.
@@FordTechMakuloco I'll be looking at mine when I do my turbo coolant lines and timing chian, tensioner, phasers and Melling HV pump. All Do to your tech info saving me thousands in labor from the dealerships that don't do the best work. If you can't do it right the first time you don't get a second chance. This is why I do my own work.
That’s a really smart way to set yourself up for early retirement.
@@markm0000 What most people don't know about the old guy down the street with the Ford with 350k miles is that: he's had any part that looks questionable changed over the years. Not waiting until failure.
@@FordTechMakuloco juste amazing good infos thank you mister ...... from quebec canada
Best Ford Channel there is
100% agree, love this channel and I'm a chevy guy.
Hands down. My go to channel for Ford issues. Always learning something.
And its not even close........
100% is Love to buy this man a beer
Amen
Brian, don't listen to the idiots. You have helped me do my own repairs and pm more than any other online mechanics.
Thank you!
I already replaced mine because of one of your previous videos. Less than $300 for the three lines and some fluid to top it off. A couple hours in the driveway and it's good as new. Very simple proactive maintenance. Thanks for all your advice.
Whered you order them from? Thanks
Part number ??
Part number ?
I own a 2014 mustang GT with a 6R80. Does this apply to this vehicle also?
@@cheizaguirre5494 Hi should be CL3Z7R081A - call local Ford dealer and order.
Thanks for looking out for us working folks Brian. Even in good economic times 6K is a huge hit on everyone's budget.
I'm a heavy duty diesel mechanic with over 40+ years of experience and this tip applies to diesel trucks too. Semi's have steel cooler lines also that corrode from the salt!
Brian, don’t let the negativity commenters get to you. You are obviously successful, in business, and YT with nearly 3/4 of a million subscribers. I, for one, am THANKFUL for your channel. I own a 2014 F-150 with the 5.0, with 158,000 miles in it. Use it for work in the oil fields of NE Wyoming. After seeing your other video regarding this issue from 6 months ago, I took my truck to my trusted drivetrain service center and asked them to replace the lines in question and do a trans fluid & filter change. I was promptly told, the “lines look great, why?” and “I wouldn’t stress over it”. I asked him to do it anyway, to which I was given the response…”your money”. That afternoon, I received a call from the owner of said drivetrain shop, apologizing to me. It would seem, that as the tech was removing the aforementioned lines, the thing snapped off in his hand in nearly the same spot, as was in your earlier video. Tech claimed “he barely touched it”. I for one am GRATEFUL to you, sir. Ignore the trolls. You saved me thousands of $, and if you were here in person, I’d shake your hand!
Now I need to read the comments more closely, I saw no negativity, how could there be negativity on such helpful videos. Or are you speaking of the original video I was complaining about?
Outstanding vid, Brian. Thanks for caring about us on a personal level! Please keep these helpful videos coming!
Ford has no excuse for this. The lines should be of sufficient wall thickness or made from stainless steel with epoxy covering. That would add very little to the overall cost of the vehicle and would help to prevent another customer going to the foreign owned truck makers. Using aluminum fittings in settings where salt brine is laid, which is so common anymore, is a recipe for disaster. Excellent and sobering wisdom from Brian, once again.
Right on ,I had a similar problem on my 05 silverado but it was the fuel line from the tank to the engine very dangerous,also a brake line rusted out and could have caused an accident ,they could use better materials but all they are concerned with is getting it past the warranty date.
I agree 100%. Have seen design engineers specify a robust material that gets downgraded going to production resulting in field failures. There is likely a grade and temper of aluminum alloy that would be acceptable for this application like 5052 with H32 conditioning . Why Ford allowed the neck diameter just below the Q.D. junction to be machined down a few millimeters must have been to acomodate the collar crimper head . Otherwise a rookie mistake and Ford does not make many of those.
Thanks for the video. I have been watching your channel religiously. I have a 2013 Ford edge that I bought it new and have been watching for any videos from you. So far it’s been a very good vehicle. Keep up the great videos.
Thank You Brian. I have a 2012 F 150 FX. With 96 thousand miles. Going outside to check my lines right now. I along with so many others certainly appreciate everything you do. My only complaint is I wished I lived next door to you!!! Thanks again and may God Bless You and your family 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Amen to that wish I lived closer so I could have him work on my pickup.
Thanks man, appreciate you, Diy'er here five years and still consider myself a beginner, so much info must learn, tool's, scanner etc .. it's worth it!.
Yup- I fixed mine after I watched your other video. I cut out the quick connects and coupled the lines with 300- bar rated hydraulic hose and constant torque hose clamps. My hard lines look pretty good yet and my couplers were in fair shape, but my 2014 has 200K now so THANK YOU for ALL of your videos! Now, to fix that leaky vacuum pump...
Ordered my replacement lines after video #1 came out. Ended up doing all the power steering lines too once I got a look at the corrosion underneath. Thanks again sir!
I own a 2009 Ford F150 XLT and following this gentleman is a life saver. 🙌
Your first video saved my 6R80. I looked at my cooler lines and seen that the compression fitting had split and very recently because the metal was still bright and shiny. So I took your advice and changed everything. All lines,front cooler, filter and fluid. I also added a transmission dipstick as well from a well known manufacturer so I can keep an eye on level and condition. Thanks again!!!!
Tell us more about the dipstick: like where do order one
@@tsr7198 B&M makes one and so does Performance Automatic. They are both very expensive at $250+ I have the Performance Automatic dipstick tube installed on my 2014 Mustang GT with this transmission and it works well.
@@tsr7198 B&M 22200 about $250. Yes expensive, but no more crawling, burning my arm to check level and conditions.
Good man I had to replace my transmission two years ago because of this issue
@Wayne Dimirsky I had a b&m and it sticks too far into the transmission to even get an accurate reading. Ended up putting the factory plug back in because it was easier to read than the b&m.
Thank you so much, excellent information. I have a 2013 Eco boost with 31K on it so I sprayed the tubing and all metal parts with Blaster surface shield to protect the tubing from corrosion, I can see the start of corrosion, glad to catch this early. Keep up the good work it really helps prevent expensive problems. By the way the pcv valve oil separator works well keeping the 2013 Eco Boost intake valves clean, preventing another costly problem. Thanks again for your hard work.
I'm going to change my now! I always listen to what you have to say. Thank you
Great tip, always a good idea to check the brittle coolant fittings, as well. Better then finding a weak link on the trail.
On my '11, I chopped off the lines just before the QD's and put on compression to NPT fittings then hose barbs. Re-plumbed the rest with new hose. I caught on from one of your earlier videos, thanks Brian!
After seeing your first video on the cooler line ticking time bomb, I replaced the cooler lines on my 2014 F-150 and sleep much better at night.
Thanks for bringing this potential disaster to our attention.
Something else I've always done on any Ford with that style quick disconnect in anything except a vertical application (won't make any difference for vertical lines) is to turn the opening of the plastic clip down towards the ground. That allows any fluid splashed up into the fitting to drain & may reduce the speed of the lines corroding. If your lines are super weak, you'll also find out quickly by turning that plastic clip. The fitting will likely break if it's corroded with any movement or pressure.
Keep 'em coming Brian, I been pointing the techs at the big regional U-Haul shops your way.
Yep, I just saved a customer his transmission couple months back for this very reason. Surprisingly the aluminum quick connects were still together, but rust holes in the steel cooler lines left small drips in his driveway. One bump away from disaster.
Replaced all the lines and did a transmission service. All was well 👍🏻
Thanks again Brian I’ll definitely check my lines on my 09 for this issue great update. Food, gas and everything nowadays is too expensive for real..Peace n Love..
Another great video Brian! Thanks for bringing up these common issues.
Thanks for this! I have 183k on my 011 F150 and noticed that the lines were looking pretty bad. Not leaking but think I’ll schedule a trans service and ask if they can all be replaced! Definitely want to keep my truck running for as long as possible!
Thanks to your first video on this, I had my lines replaced on time on my 2012. After watching the video , I checked my quick
Connects and saw the lines were damp with trans fluid right under the quick connects. Had them replaced at ~80000miles. Guessing it was metal fatigue in my case. Hopefully this gets me another 10Years or so.
On day one I removed all the shields underneath the truck because they would conceal small leaks. I will be replacing the linesets from the transmission to the cooler. Thank you Brian for looking out for us little guys!! Can you please do a video of the replacement procedure?
Replaced my lines about 6 months ago thanks to your previous video on this. Did the lead frame as well and the thing shifts sooo smooth now
Your comment on how the pressure is lower as the fluid level drops is spot on. A line that completely disconnects can often have little damage in the transmission as long as the engine is turned off once the transmission looses engagement. It's the slow leaks that kill transmissions. Low pressure, fluctuating pressure and lubrication failures as the level gets lower and lower.
Its the time period where the pump is sucking air and fluid is when the real damage occurs to the clutches.
Yes.
I don’t even one one for that year time period and I thank you for the info. I think the idea of just periodically looking around the vehicle for odd things happening is an overall good idea.
Was a dealer tech for years, not ford. But i trust his insight, im gonna order parts for my f150 asap
Thanks for sharing this again and looking out for the consumer as always.
Appreciate the info! I recently did the underside of my 2017 with Fluid Film. I’m now gonna go back and concentrate on all the transmission lines, from below, above and through the grill.
I’ve got a 16 f-150 glad I saw the red stain in the driveway before towing our trailer, the main trans supply/return line developed a small pin hole near the metal to metal support bracket. Royal pain to change but the OEM line fit perfectly
Thanks for the reminder to check those lines. I have one spot with corrosion at 220k miles- will definitely change them out soon
Thank God I saw this, noticed some fluid under the hood around the quick connect location sometime last week
Thanks for the information. I live in the Southeast so rust isn't an issue but the connector is.
Good video.
As a commercial driver I'm used to doing pre-trip inspections daily. I do most of the maintenance on my 2016 Fx4 5.0 with a 6r80 trans. So just out of habit I'm doing pre-trip inspections on it.
Always checking for leaks low tires etc. Your videos have helped me several times with my maintenance endeavors.
Have you seen any similar problems described in this video with your truck? I have the 2015 myself
@@samwell707 No I haven't. I live in the south so no salt or rust either.
@@craigbrown6610 awesome. I live near the Mexican border so hopefully pretty similar to your climate and luck.
So your pre trip inspections would have to be with an engine running then. Otherwise the leak would not be found. I have skid plates on my Montero which makes it hard to check small leaks. But I will do my best
tough break for the customer. Thanks for the info again Brian.
I didn't see your 1st video on this so thank you so much for the reminder/update!!
Thank you as always brother for sharing your experience ! I’m on it !! 🙏
Thanks for making another video for this problem. I have been checking my quick-couple more often. No issues to report but i went checked my fluid level after your first video. Found my fluid was black with a hard shifting 3-4. Had a transmission shop check it and swap fluid but still a hard 3-4 shift happens when towing.
Ford owners: before each trip I do a thirty minute pre drive inspection then go change clothes and wash up. It's no big deal to spend an hour to catch any number of design flaws.
Everyone else: get in and drive
Great advice schedule maintenance is key to long lasting health of a vehicle. Every 30k flushes and fill on every fluid regardless of what the book says!!! Trust me it helps plus with regular maintenance you can catch things before they break. And cause bigger problems.
Never flush
@@Whatisgoingon-od9yb they don’t drop the transmission pans anymore
I'm glad I'm seeing this now, so I now know something to pay a little extra special attention to on my 2013. Love the vids man, keep em comin
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Thanks Brian I have a 2013 F-150 ecoboost, I'm going to check my lines and transmission fluid level (right now)...
Thanks for the reminder. I checked the lines on my '10 after your 1st video and they looked ok but will look again.
Better look again 😳🛻
Thank you for letting us know.
I have seen an 09 E-250 and a 2010 F-150 and both of them had extreme rust on everything. the F-150s oil pan rusted out and lost the oil. The E-250 had chunks of rust falling off of the rear end.
My other comment is, I had the heater hose quick disconnect on an 06 E-250 break off while driving and I didn't know until the cluster lit up. two weeks later a friend had the same thing happened to his F-250. Those quick disconnects where plastic that had rotted.
Great advice, I have a 2015 and my lines rusted out at 45000 miles so keep an eye on those connections
Thank you so much for spreading this message
I sure like your channel... and who you are as a person... thanks so much!!! ... Your a great technician .👍
Thanks again for the great content, always invaluable advice spoken from true experience!
I have a 2009 Ford F150 XL SCREW with this transmission in it and will check those lines immediately! Thank God I saw this! Subscribing to this channel as well.
I got super lucky on my 2012. Changing the oil one day, I noticed one of the trans cooler lines was wet at that coupling. I wiped it with a rag, and the line separated in my hands. I was able to patch it to get back up and running, and promptly ordered a new line set.
Been watching this channel for years. My Ford problem go to.
Awesome Ford specialist technician know his craft and great advice wish he was in my state every ford I Owen will be at his shop👍👍👍👍👍👍
my lines blew exactly right at that point on my 2013 back in 2020. I was on the freeway at night doing 55MPH (in traffic).
The metal literally just cleanly snapped in half. No corrosion. Completely fried the tranny, all the solenoids and the torque converter we’re toast.
86k miles on the clock at the time.
Cost me $5.5k for a complete rebuild, I got stranded out of state for almost 4 weeks, and I was out of work for a while month.
wow
Wowzer..........
bro...
@@leonglassglow3854 Good luck with that, Ford doesn't do much for you.
How do you know it was burned up unless you fixed the hose, put in new fluid and tried to drive it?
Experience is the best teacher....
Thanks Brian for the information great video.
This is when being atleast a little obsessed with looking things over, under the hood really makes a difference, shame that's a nice truck hope they have you take care of it, perfect video!
Thank you for showing this again. I am due a tranny service and will change the lines as well.
More vehicles than the F150 might be affected. I had the same corrosion issue with my 2008 MKZ. The lines corroded under the black plastic clips. My car is virtually rust free so it was a surprise. For me I found the leak while doing normal service so I was lucky. Thanks for the great info.
I drive a 2011 Expedition and I will be looking into this first thing tomorrow!
Don't waste your time arguing with stupid people. You are the best Ford tech on TH-cam and just because someone can buy tools at a box store they think they're a mechanic. I've been spinning wrenches for over forty years, I'm an ASE certified master technician with diesel and exhaust certifications, but the more I learn, the more I find out I don't know. You are my go-to resource for anything Ford. Too many people let their arrogance hide the fact they are actually stupid, and there is sadly nothing that can be done about it, just let them be stupid. Thank you for the amazing videos and invaluable information. There are those of us who realize your worth and appreciate your efforts to share your wealth of knowledge.
Another great video. Safe and effective! I mean reallly. You're a genius Brian.
Thank you again, ace! I changed them out the first time you talked about this. I really cannot use a $6K+ bill right now! Some guys were saying that it was a waste of money, because you're just replacing the lines with crummy Ford ones again. I think that these were re-engineered. I hope that they were. Are you recommending not using the Ford cooler lines? When I do my under vehicles inspections, I'm going to keep my eye on all of these transmission related lines. 👍👍👍
Just went through this in our 2012 raptor. Thank god it was still under warranty.
Great video as always, keep them coming! I have a 2016 with 5.0 and the 6R80 guessing Ford fixed the problem after 14? Mine has 165K and has been very reliable other than the sync radio is always broken.
I wish there were more channels for every manufacturer. I worked for Toyota for a few years and let me tell you, they had similar time bombs in their cars.
When it comes to Ford's brother. You do know everything!
Speaking as a materials engineer, yes metal fatigue could be an issue and another could be stress corrosion cracking by road salt chlorides coupled with moisture and warm temperatures. In either case, Brian's recommendation is spot on. Be proactive and replace them!
I bought a 2010 expedition of marketplace and made it a half hour before one of the rusty lines bursted. Luckily I was following behind and seen smoke coming from under it and we were able to trailer it home with no damage.
I will be doing this job on my 11 f150 now as well due to crusty lines.
My friend who works at the parts department at a Ford dealership told me that they keep a big inventory of these lines in stock because of the high failure rate. That, and wiper transmissions that seize up.
I just picked up a 2014..fairly high kms but looks great. Saw your video about the lines..went outside and saw one crimp was split...I touched it..I mean literally just touched it and it broke off!...I gave the other one a bit of a twist..no more than to break a pencil and it snapped off too!...how about that!. Thanks for being within my search path!
Thanks for your advice 👍 buddy you are the best ford mechanic you sure know your stuff
I watch this guy repair vehicles. Even If those vehicles don't pertain to me.
Just replaced these on my 2013 f150 fx4. Fun little job . Spent bout 200 on lines and some fluid. Now I gotta replace does same lines on my wife's 2013 f150 limited .
I had mine replaced as well because of your videos
I'm fortunate I caught that in time on my 2006 Expedition by doing an inspection before going on vacation, pulling my camper.
I thank you for another great video!
Thank You Sir , will be checking on my truck .
Thanks, love your channel!
So glad I had you put em on for me while you were doing my timing set job 🙂
Did u get to meet him in person? He is the bees knees on mechanic stuff!!
@@billrimmer5596 yes sir , met him his son and wife and baby was all there and very helpful even got to pet the shop cat 🐈 lol , he done a ton of work for me on my 2009 F150 5.4 3v 4x4 lariat super crew cab, timing set with melling 360hv oil pump and transmission lines and spark plugs and rockers and followers and oil pan and passenger side exhaust manifold and studs at a very fair price for the quality of service I received 😀
Thank u kindly for prompt reply. I’m out in LA so don’t get to c his shop. I have been following him from years on TH-cam. Have u seen his older vids when he was at the dealer? He has some really cool ones on pulling dashes. He knows how to shortcut when it’s appropriate!!
@@billrimmer5596 absolutely been following both his pages on TH-cam I don't do the Facebook or Twitter thing for over a year or two now do to it taking up too much of my time bit always following him on here for several years because I have always been a Ford guy and his short cuts are amazing but recently with congestive heart failure a year ago I didn't want to tackle the jobs I needed done due to the weeks of down time it would have taken me to complete due to my health and he did it in 36 hrs time frame lol , so I traveled roughly 10 - 12 hour drive to have him do it for me .
When he changed the transmission cooler lines, did he use the Ford OEM replacement parts or something else?
Thanks to this video I checked mine and sure enough they were leaking. Got it in to the dealership and they were cracked and the o rings were bad as well. I don’t drive it much so the transmission fluid wasn’t really low thank God. Still cost me almost 500 bucks. It’s a 2013 f 150 5.0
Thanks for the heads up!!
Thanks for your vast knowledge 👍🏿
Thank you for the videos!
I think some people just think lines will last forever when they don't great saving tips the lines for all with cooler was about $300 with out radiator at dealer still would rather pay that then to have to what you said in video thank you!
Thank you Brian.
Great advice I think they make it too hard for people to check the transmission level. Bring back the transmission dipstick.
Great tips thanks for the reminder
Bought a new Focus in '02 (still have it, approaching 350k with the original engine and trans, albeit with what appears to be a rear main seal leaking). At the dealership, I was checking it out and noticed that the "galvanized" fuel-filler neck was RUSTED... BIG TIME! Looked like it had been in salt water for YEARS! Had them replace it; can't remember if it was done before we took delivery or after... the ONLY time someone other than me has worked on it! : )
Owners really need to do this. You don’t want to find out the hard way like I did. On vacation in northern Maine doing some exploring on a dirt road high up a mountain in the middle of nowhere with no cell phone service and it’s getting dark. This was so far off the beaten path that I believe logging companies made the trails. Luckily I didn’t loose much fluid and found the leak at the quick disconnect. I always carry tools on long hauls. I cut the line where is goes up to the intercooler and made a U reversing the line and bi-passing the cooling system. Used some existing clamps and few others I had. This got me back to camp site 15 miles away. Tried adding fluid the next day only to find my dipstick cap would just turn. Threads were stripped on the aluminum housing. I had to inject the trans fluids from where I cut the line and estimated at what I lost. Not fun but got me home.
i got all my trans cooler lines and trans fluild and filter changed today at ford im being proactive im sure itll pay off thank you
And new trucks are so expensive It's really worth it these days to drop 6k into a truck that is probably only worth 10, just to keep it running. Great job! Get those lines fixed for a lot cheaper than a transmission!
Not really. There will be other issues. It’s better to keep an eye on it and when it starts to become an issue sell and buy new. Vehicles retain value so well and maintenance is so expensive it doesn’t make sense to keep them more than 7 years especially in the salt belt.
Thank you!!! Definitely doing this!!
I just did all of mine because of your video
Great information!
Can you make a video of the fix?? Its not clear to me what parts it takes or were to cut old lines etc? And how can changing the hoses correct the possible metal fatigue on the trans cooler/radiator?
Great channel and we appreciate your time with all these types of issues. Thanks.
Yep, 100% agree on this!