Well, I pulled a pump from a 90 ft well that only had two black wires to it. There was no ground wire run out to the pump or in the casing. The new pump I put in had two black wires and a ground wire. There is no control box. At this point in time I just tied off the ground.
Im wondering your thoughts on which is more reliable? I currently have a 240 volt 3 wire deep well pump, but am trying to get off grid. My current solar set up allows for 12 and 120 volt. Doing all my home work to see if I should upgrade my solar or change out my 240 volt items to 120 or 12 volt. Other then my well pump, I have a hot water tank, and mini split that operate on 240 volt. Mini split is no go for 12 or 120 volt but hot water heater could run on 120, so well pump is the ony item that can set the scales of deciding what to do.
Green is ground according to national code just about anywhere. Now if you are wiring up a semi trailer green is for the right turn signal light, yellow is the left turn signal light.
I found a not used well on my newly purchased property. It has a deep well pump with a red, black and yellow wire from the pump. All wiring, breakers or anything that was above ground was removed prior to buying the property. How can I run this pump? What are the wires? Is it a 120v, or a 240v?? No markings visible on the pump, it was buried in mud, but in great condition. Thank you for your info!!
Control boxes are not necessarily located near the panelboard. It is usually close to the pressure switch. The NEC (National Electrical Code) didn't use to require a submersible pump to be connected to an equipment grounding conductor nor did it require connecting the equipment grounding conductor to the metal well casing. Which manufacturer pressure tank do you recommend? Thanks for the video.
40-50+ years ago, many pump manufacturers did not require the pumps to be grounded, just like most of our home AC outlets didn't have a ground. Obviously, that has changed for safety. Regarding the pressure tanks, we don't have any specific recommendations. However, we know that Flotec tanks are made here in the USA and are of very good quality.
Can anyone say why red lion 3/4 hp jet low depth pump does not have a ground line coming out of pump? Normally there is one and it is attached to one of two ground screws on the pressure switch, In those other cases, your power line ground gets attached to the other ground screw on the pressure switch. Seems very clear in those other cases, but not this one. The diagram provided for red lion pump only shows one ground line and it is going from one ground screw to the earth ground surface. Perhaps the power line ground wire gets attached to one of two pressure switch ground screws and a separate ground wire is added to the system, going from the other P switch ground screw into earth or wrapped around well head metal surface. I would rather not assume though. Thanks
Jim. I would like to operator two wells with the same 2 wire feed. I wanted to run the pumps in parallel with a DPDT switch at the first well so each well would run independently. Do you know of a weatherproof switch I could buy?
The pump motor end should have the voltage information listed on a label or engraved into the pump. Otherwise, you'll need to call the pump manufacturer, read the manual, or find additional documentation, but that information should be given with every pump.
Sure it's possible, but it is not common and might not have been necessary to install. You'll probably need to do some looking in the owner's manual to get an explanation if it was meant to have one. Or, you installer just put one in anyway.
@PowerEquipmentDirect I am currently dealing with the same issue. I'm replacing a 2 wire pump but it also has a control box. Would you recommend removing the control box before installing a new 2 wire pump? Thanks..Great informative video!
Greetings, I have a question. The pump i have has 4 wires including the ground.The cable I have to join it to only has 3 wires. Do I need to buy a separate ground wire or can I just egnore the ground wire and connect the 3 wires. The people I bought the pump from say I shouldn't worry about the ground wire. While my installer says I need to get another wire and make it the ground.
That ground wire is for your and the pumps safety, so we would highly recommend that you include that 4th wire. It may also be required by your local code.
Not to ask a stupid ? ..but .. Does anyone know how to tell if I have a 120.or 240v pump... ?.. Bought older has everything rigged together.. Has 12/2 . I guess wiring from pump.1 black 1white. Bare copper ground..120v??.but has 240v breaker marked. Well pump..any ideas..i hooked it up 120v it works but shuts off.on every few minutes..
If you look at the article link in our video description, we have detailed information that lays out all the differences between them, including voltage. You should find answers to most questions you might have in the article.
Well, I pulled a pump from a 90 ft well that only had two black wires to it. There was no ground wire run out to the pump or in the casing. The new pump I put in had two black wires and a ground wire. There is no control box. At this point in time I just tied off the ground.
Im wondering your thoughts on which is more reliable? I currently have a 240 volt 3 wire deep well pump, but am trying to get off grid. My current solar set up allows for 12 and 120 volt. Doing all my home work to see if I should upgrade my solar or change out my 240 volt items to 120 or 12 volt.
Other then my well pump, I have a hot water tank, and mini split that operate on 240 volt. Mini split is no go for 12 or 120 volt but hot water heater could run on 120, so well pump is the ony item that can set the scales of deciding what to do.
I know this is an older video but can someone tell me where to connect the green ground on a 2 wire pump, thanks
Green is ground according to national code just about anywhere. Now if you are wiring up a semi trailer green is for the right turn signal light, yellow is the left turn signal light.
I found a not used well on my newly purchased property. It has a deep well pump with a red, black and yellow wire from the pump. All wiring, breakers or anything that was above ground was removed prior to buying the property. How can I run this pump? What are the wires? Is it a 120v, or a 240v?? No markings visible on the pump, it was buried in mud, but in great condition. Thank you for your info!!
Control boxes are not necessarily located near the panelboard. It is usually close to the pressure switch. The NEC (National Electrical Code) didn't use to require a submersible pump to be connected to an equipment grounding conductor nor did it require connecting the equipment grounding conductor to the metal well casing. Which manufacturer pressure tank do you recommend? Thanks for the video.
40-50+ years ago, many pump manufacturers did not require the pumps to be grounded, just like most of our home AC outlets didn't have a ground. Obviously, that has changed for safety. Regarding the pressure tanks, we don't have any specific recommendations. However, we know that Flotec tanks are made here in the USA and are of very good quality.
Can anyone say why red lion 3/4 hp jet low depth pump does not have a ground line coming out of pump? Normally there is one and it is attached to one of two ground screws on the pressure switch, In those other cases, your power line ground gets attached to the other ground screw on the pressure switch. Seems very clear in those other cases, but not this one. The diagram provided for red lion pump only shows one ground line and it is going from one ground screw to the earth ground surface.
Perhaps the power line ground wire gets attached to one of two pressure switch ground screws and a separate ground wire is added to the system, going from the other P switch ground screw into earth or wrapped around well head metal surface. I would rather not assume though.
Thanks
Jim. I would like to operator two wells with the same 2 wire feed. I wanted to run the pumps in parallel with a DPDT switch at the first well so each well would run independently. Do you know of a weatherproof switch I could buy?
Can i just plug a 115v pump into a receptacle on the house? Im just using thr pump off the dock to fill a cistern once every 2 weeks for an hour.
Did you ever find out?
Thank you for this video!
You are so welcome! We're glad you enjoyed watching!
What about in a shallow well pump?
Does 2 wire well pump need control box?
No, a control box is only required for a 3-wire pump. 3 Wire pumps are actually 4 wires, but no one includes the ground wire in the number.
How do you measure a three wire pump to see what the voltage would be 230 or 110 and if it is 230 where's the common connected to the box
The pump motor end should have the voltage information listed on a label or engraved into the pump. Otherwise, you'll need to call the pump manufacturer, read the manual, or find additional documentation, but that information should be given with every pump.
Looks like I have a 2 wire with a control box. Is that possible?
Sure it's possible, but it is not common and might not have been necessary to install. You'll probably need to do some looking in the owner's manual to get an explanation if it was meant to have one. Or, you installer just put one in anyway.
@PowerEquipmentDirect I am currently dealing with the same issue. I'm replacing a 2 wire pump but it also has a control box. Would you recommend removing the control box before installing a new 2 wire pump? Thanks..Great informative video!
Greetings, I have a question. The pump i have has 4 wires including the ground.The cable I have to join it to only has 3 wires. Do I need to buy a separate ground wire or can I just egnore the ground wire and connect the 3 wires. The people I bought the pump from say I shouldn't worry about the ground wire. While my installer says I need to get another wire and make it the ground.
That ground wire is for your and the pumps safety, so we would highly recommend that you include that 4th wire. It may also be required by your local code.
Not to ask a stupid ? ..but .. Does anyone know how to tell if I have a 120.or 240v pump... ?.. Bought older has everything rigged together.. Has 12/2 . I guess wiring from pump.1 black 1white. Bare copper ground..120v??.but has 240v breaker marked. Well pump..any ideas..i hooked it up 120v it works but shuts off.on every few minutes..
Can you get a model number of the pump? If you find one, give us a call and we'll help you look it up over the phone.
You need to test at the well head what you have coming from the panel if you have 240 coming from the panel you need a 240 voltage pump
Im still confused is ths for 110 and 220
If you look at the article link in our video description, we have detailed information that lays out all the differences between them, including voltage. You should find answers to most questions you might have in the article.