INTERVIEWING A DEV. New Gray Zone: Warfare Info.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- I had the pleasure of being able to have a 1 on 1 interview with Madfindergame’s, Gray Zone: Warfares PR & Comms Director Rick Lagnese.
- 01:08 Feedback
- 02:49 PvE Servers
- 04:24 PvE v Standard progression
- 05:14 Concerns for Cross progression
- 07:10 Custom Servers
- 09:06 Early Access
- 10:05 End Game / PvP
- 12:36 PMC Coordination
- 14:02 Clans/Guilds
- 14:56 PvE Servers creating aggression
- 16:10 Solo/Duo/Trio
- 17:08 Food/Water
- 17:40 ?????????
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I greatly appreciate that there will be PvE. Tarkov kills me because I have a career, and a family and I do not have the time to become amazing at it or become geared up. I need to be able to hop in and play an hour or two and make progress, and have fun without getting stomped.
Thank you dev team for finally giving me a game that I can enjoy that fits my tactical preferences
Im happy for the option even if its not my primary one. I know some of my friends will want to play PvE and some will be way more likely to ease into standard mode with it there to start. But it also helps PvPer's because people who dont want to fight will filter themselves out of circulation leaving room for more PvPer's. Its a win win. Ty for watching.
Gamers like you should. Just... stop gaming I'm sorry but you can't ask for a deep experience like tarkov and also get those endorphins in the small time slot you're giving yourself. What you're asking is impossible. To feel like a level forty Chad but after a week's worth of play? You want like tarkov at 10x speed then?
@@MachinedFace88ttv You misunderstand; I am not looking to get a fast track. I am just looking to able to enjoy the game mechanics, maps, and the game itself without the PvP. I get that I will not have a ton of gear or be a high level. In a PvE; that just means it takes longer to get there. In PvP that means I get fucking smacked every single time.
I get some people love that part; and thats awesome. Having the option to just do PvE hurts no one. I wouldn't even mind if they just made it a separate character and I was barred from PvP entirely with my gear.
But resorting to just; "you just cannot play games" is asinine. Oop I stubbed my toe; guess I'll die.
@@MachinedFace88ttv I dislike the fact that you're being one of those elitist stereotypes where you just ignore everybody who doesn't have the same preferences as you.
The person just praised the devs for adding PvE because in PvE, there wouldn't be much pressure and risk. It's something that adults actually appreciate because they would actually be able to play for entertainment with low levels of stress.
@@MachinedFace88ttvdeffo typing this on the phone or pc mummy and daddy brlught you while your still living at home with mummy and daddy washing your clothes cooking you food and probably still changing your nappies would love to cone face to face with kids like you
great video, you must have had a great camera man
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I judge a developer on its dates and promises it discloses, if it hits it EA date of Q1, I will support it from day 1. If it slips, I will slip on it till later down the line too.
hi, im here, its here, big w
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I’m skeptical, when he responded to your question about how your going to deal with players getting gear in co-op mode then moving to PvP mode to dominate the server, instead of saying we’ll limit the types of gear they can get on co-op compared to PvP servers. He pretty much said we don’t know we’ll figure it out though, sounds like the live service rabbit whole that plagues gaming today :/. Give you a half-a**** game then fix it overtime, I’m so tired of that. I’m still gonna buy it though 😁👍. I think your part of the interview went great though 😁
TY so much. IDK I feel like to a point a dev is allowed to experiment to try and find out if something works or not so long as they're not digging in their heels. I can see a lot of upsides to allowing the progress to transfer but the real question is are those upsides worth the potential negatives that come with it.
@@thegeck0frontierYour right, they do need to experiment with those aspects of the game because the game needs to develop its own identity and not be a clone or a rip off.
@@spe3tre458I understand your skepticism especially in today's gaming market, but I feel like for this game, that's okay. They are making a game in a largely untapped market, where none of the other games have the same scenario happen. So releasing the game, and then figuring out a way to balance it seems quite smart, rather than implementing restrictions beforehand, and having to go back and tune and refine afterwards.
Ok but how would that be fair to PvE players if the gear they could get is worse than PvP? The whole point of having PvE servers is for us players who prefer it. If you nerf those servers by removing loot, that's not really fair to us. I personally plan on playing only PvE so I'd like the same chance to get the best loot in the game as you guys in the PvP servers. However, they should create balance to potentially nerf what you can bring over to PvP. Hope that makes some sense.
Great video! I also share the same concerns as others for PVE/PVP cross progression. I feel as if this might just kill the PVP servers because whats the point of dealing with PVP encounters that can set back your progression when you can just go PVE and deal with only PVE oriented encounters. Now on the flipside, I think this cross progression can be VERY good because I feel that this will ultimately lower the chances of people thriving to cheat for self profit/RMT services such as carrys and loot deliveries...
Some of the biggest upsides I can see are" Some players who end up playing standard mode will only even purchase and try the game if they can ease into it via PvE and then aren't discouraged by having to start over. Likewise if you play standard but have friends who only play PvE your not having to juggle characters. I still think the main negatives outweigh these benefits but I could be wrong. Just got to play to find out. Ty for watching.
I agree, just got to play to find out... ty for posting.
Nice questions from you man I think you covered the majority of what we wanted to hear right now.
Ty so much. I wanted to stay grounded on the gameplay cause, let's face it, that's where the rubber meets the road. Ty for watching
toook the words right out my mouth why cant we have guys like doing interviews in the gaming space more speaks for gamers@@thegeck0frontier
They 100% need to keep PvE and PvP progression separate. If you can’t deal with the intensity of the possibility of a player engagement, or just feel like you’re not skilled enough, then having a PvE environment is completely acceptable. I am for more options too! What is not acceptable is having progression crossover to PvP. Makes PvP players feel like their progression isn’t rewarding at all. Please, @madfingergames , keep progression SEPARATE. That should and need to be a compromise. Otherwise people are just gonna farm gear in PvE and that dopamine rush you get from taking down a player would really diminish.
I agree. There are upsides to shared progression, but it would have to be tempered. Another issue is gear saturation. Gear is mainly moving from pve to pvp servers. Speeding up the saturation process. Ty for watching
Hello. About the balance of equipment and loot between PvE and PvP servers. I think they could be different systems for each type of servers. In PvE you have missions, inventory, loot, etc. And you can get all the weapons and equipment. And for PvP, we have quests, but the only things we can get with the loot is healing, food, ammo, etc. BUT NOT EQUIPMENT. And with the "three faction system", all players appear with a predetermined team. Let me explain. Make a symmetrical balance between the three factions. So players have a default armor and equipment (different cosmetics) and must go to their HQ armory and choose just one primary weapon (assault rifle or shotgun or dmr or mg and customize it with accesories), a secondary weapon (pistol) and a limited number of magazines and grenades. And that's all. You're ready to roll. Go outside, complete missions, explore the map and fight or avoid squads of enemy factions. And if you're running out of resources (ammo, healing), go for the extraction and resuply in your base for another round when your ready. I think, in that way, players have the feeling of be a soldier part of a larger group, who belong to a faction and work with and for them.
Ty for watching. If you have detailed suggestions, I highly recommend submitting it to the GZW discord. That way its more likely to be seen by someone who can actually make it happen.
Id like to know about mods. Since we're getting private servers... Maybe some kind of arma 3 level of modding, would give this game like 15 years of life, easily....
Fully agree. I can see a server running an event of 48 players all on the same team trying to complete the campaign with no respawns and increased pve presence. Or something more pvp oriented as well. Ty for watching
How many other players will be on the PVE servers?
Same number (47), just can't kill each other. Ty for watching
I think they might be being a bit naive going in. I don't know how GZW will play exactly, but I do know gamers. Two things I'd bet the house on for gamers...
1: If there's PvP, there will be a lot of people focused on PvPing and they will find ways to maximize PvP encounters beyond what could ever be predicted.
2: Gamers will game the systems. If you can gear up and progress in PvE before going into live PvP servers, that *will* be the norm.
I don't see how this wouldn't turn the PvP servers into glorified death matches. Unless you're actively working to discourage PvP to the point that there's really no point in having it at all.
For me the shelf life of PvE is very short. If I feel compelled to play PvE to prepare for PvP servers... It could potentially kill the game for me rather quickly.
I know exactly what your concerns are cause I share them myself. At this point, so long as Devs aren't set in stone on an issue we will do well to continue giving feedback (and be open the idea that we might be wrong too).
I totally agree they need to have two diff types of servers each with their own gear. Having a game mode where you can just crush through the game and gear up without any rival player interaction defeats the whole purpose of the PVP mode and will lose a lot of the player base.
I think it's fair to say the game already de-emphisizes pvp engagements pretty heavily by providing no specific incentives for doing it (no missions, no xp, no meta rewards at all). Gear is literally the only incentive left and we don't have any indication of what level of gear scarcity they're aiming for.
What about anti-cheat? Tarkov is plagued by cheaters and has turned people away with how they have handled them thus far.
Rhiloe Gaming did an interview a while back where this was discussed. Asked and answered so I didn't want to use time for it. I highly recommend watching that vid too. Ty for watching.
It's not Unity, which is the biggest thing. That engine is just too easy to mod. I play an Unreal Engine game and a Crytek engine game and see maybe 1 cheater every few hundred hours. Compare that to Tarkov where you can play 5 raids and see 5 cheaters...
I recognize that couch........
How do you think I got the interview... 😆
good to know solo play is fully viable, I don't see myself gathering group of people to play a video game or playing with randoms
Yeah, who wants to talk to people? :D I totally see myself just chillin solo or just pairing up with a buddy or 2. I knew I wasnt alone so I had to have that question asked and answered. Ty for watching.
u know, i was thinking the same way, but already i had several cases where i organically squaded up with other players because i could help them with a quest they didnt have yet or vice versa, and it was a great experience. even just passing other players and saying wuddup and maybe some banter adds a ton of flavor. i didn't have a mic when i bought the game, i do now because you really are missing out without it, even if you're mostly solo
I believe they are making a great mistake for trying to add shared progression between PvE and PvP servers. Luckily that would be an easy thing to fix during beta testing, provided they listen to feedback, because I simply can't see who would really enjoy the current design. As far as I know, pure PvE players are aversed to PvP, so I very much doubt many of those would have the interest in trying PvP, and at the same time pure PvP players would really hate the fact that gear and quest completions can be casually farmed in PvE mode and then transfered to PvP servers.
Ty for watching. I fully agree with the concerns and you make an excellent point on how quickly it can be changed based on feedback.
I agree for sure. Most games don’t do this for a reason. Not sure why they are trying this. But that’s what beta is for so everyone will have to let them know
No. If this game blows up then it will be filled with cheaters. So those who love the game will be forced to play against cheaters or play pve with zero progression resulting in the game dying as fast as all the rest. As of right now unless devs can solve the cheating issues pve is the future. I can’t even keep count with how many games have died lately due to being overrun with cheaters.
My initial thought is that PVE only servers should be totally separate.
@@Taytayracer60 No one said to have 0 progression for PVE servers. I think most people will agree with me when I say they should keep PVP progression and PVE progression separate. If not, the purpose of the PVP server is useless.
My concern about about pve loot to pvp servers is less about player advantage but more about the feeling of gear scarcity. Allowing pve farm with nonrestrictions on how it is transferred to pvp servers is bound to destroy the sense of progression.
If they allow people to come into pvp servers with pve loot it have a daily limit on the value of said gear. For example. You can only bring in 1000 dollars worth of gear over to the pvp servers per day. That way pvp servers can experience scarcity. And thrn over time players can increase that limit with progression through quest...building etc. Idk just an idea.
But personally, i dont wanna see it. I just think its kinda corny.
Amazing vid, Im curious how custom servers would work and the parameters with ai and loot ie. You load a custom seerver turn off the ai loot all ypi want then load to pvp/public server.
Ty for watching. I am sure at that point the progress couldn't be shared. At least I would hope not...
I personally prefer 80% pvp to 20% pve. Id like to spend majority of my time hunting players.
that doesn't really work for an open world game though, unless you have players taking npc roles like gta5rp, and even that has tons of ai
I'm not bothered about PVP. I think if the enemy AI is done well, PVE will provide all the challenge and entertainment I need, without all the campers and aimbot cheaters to ruin the experience.
That's one of the reasons I like the idea of a pve only server. Pve players get what they want, and they don't take up slots from players who want to pvp. Ty for watching
should’ve hired a different cameraman
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Idk about being able to bring pve loot into pvp servers. Kinda makes it feel like losing your loot doesn’t matter anymore because you can just go back into pve and get more risk free
It ain't risk free, from what they say ai is pretty tough
I fully understand the sentiment. However, the vibe I got was that they were taking the approach of observing and adjusting. Definitely not set in stone. Ty for watching.
Comparatively, it's significantly less risk no matter how hard the AI is. We'll have to see how it pans out. Ty for watching
Like the guy said in the video they will probably be adjusting things like this. However, nobody is going to force you to go play PvE because its "risk free" if you love PvP that much then challenge yourself to only play PvP servers. Don't give into that temptation to take what you consider a shortcut and play PvE to get the loot back. I am sure it will be a bit messy on launch but I trust they will balance it well.
A key bind to lower your weapon like in ArmA will be handy for squading up with strangers you meet and VoIP too.
That would be a good option. I did get to see gameplay and can confirm there is a free head movement option.
What is your opinion on how smooth it currently runs, frame rate etc?@@thegeck0frontier
Some aspects were clean, like the vegetation moving based on whats interacting with it. It ran smooth enough and there were things that still didnt have animations. So I would treat early access as truly early access.
Nice one!@@thegeck0frontier
Great Interview.
Ty very much and ty for watching
When is the release date tho?
Peak content 👏🏻
Ty bro. Much appreciated
PubG Mode with this graphics please!
Who knows, if we get custom servers, I could see that being fun. Ty for watching
Thanks for the interview guys.
Ty for watching.
THIS IS WHY HE’S THE GOAT!!!!!
No no, we've established you're the GOAT. Good to hear from you.
So, someone managed to get an interview about shit we wanna know and ppl commenting on the camera. SIGH
Those were jokes. One was the cameraman (my son), the other his cousin. But yeah, it would be awful if legit. Ty for watching
@@thegeck0frontier bro you almost made start a beef. GG on the interview.
@@kkatraouras lol just my Son's idea of a joke lol
Look at Arma Reforger for ideas on team/squad voice comms. It’s simple and done well
Gecko gotta say, This was a great interview! I think asked some great questions and kept it quick and to the point .So glad you got get this done. Look forward to seeing more from you.
Ty so much for the kind words. They are much appreciated
Keep it up Geck0, great content!
Appreciate it! Ty for watching
Good informative interview.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Sounds like you can farm PvE for gear then go PvP with that gear. That's an utterly terrible idea. Imagine Tarkov where everyone could just farm for loot with near 0 threat (I don't care what they claim about their AI), and progress and get rep with traders and XP. It would be utter cancer, everyone would be geared up all the time in normal raids. To me it sounds like these guys haven't put much thought into it at all. Being able to farm gear in PvE, to bring into PvP, completely defeats the point of an extraction shooter.
Tell me you're a tarkov main without telling me you're a tarkov main! Get over it! If we wanted tarkov features we'd just play tarkov!
The game I Played (NDA) mentioned in the interview had this exact thing happen. It is 100% a legit concern. And it can absolutely unravel a game. Note, I've never played EFT. Ty for watching.
@@GoombatzGamingThis is a PVEVP extraction shooter… it sound like you just want a coop pve game. So you’re the one that should be going to play something else man. Also PVE and PVP should be separate. Period. So you can go play your single player pve game in the pve servers man. The problem a lot of people are having is the fact of mixing both. Such a bad idea
@GoombatzGaming tell me you don't really understand what's being discussed without telling me you don't really understand what's being discussed
They are dropping names like rust and tarkov. The game looks very interesting but what is gonna keep me playing it ? All these tactical shooters that focus on ai to make a good experience just seem to loose my interest really fast. I want to have a reason to want to boot up and play.
Its funny to me how upset people are getting over the pve gear and progress crossing into pvp. If the player is good the gear they have wont really matter much. I know when i play tarkov i frequently use lower to mid teir gear and take out higher tier players and use their gear so im not really understanding the problem. But i do know that this will be very encouraging for more casual players to be able to grt better gear so they feel more comfortable going into a pvp server and possibly making it so more people play longer because unlike tarkov its not nearly as punishing to people who cant play as much as the more "chad" player base. Idk.... i have really high hopes for this game and im very excited to get my hands on this game and see how it plays.
I understand the issue in that it would basically turn pvp servers into deathmatches. If you can get progress done in pve, then why would you do it in pvp. On the other hand most of these people are just shitty human beings that want to curbstomp people who have less time to play. Video games bring out peoples' true selves and a lot of the people attracted to pvp games are extremely vile.
It'll be bare bones and janky and you all know it
as if that isn't the entire point of early access: to stress test the bare bones before adding other features. that way they can filter out jank along the way as they add features, so that the jank doesn't get buried deep in the code and way harder to fix