Oakeshott Lectures 2024 - David Starkey on the Strange Death of Conservative England
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2025
- In conversation with Mark Littlewood.
Held at the Sheldonian Theatre, Oxford on 30th October 2024.
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Cometh the moment ... no better person to point out that the roots of Anglophone culture lie in English political traditions and that we wish extinction on ourselves if we sever them. I am Australian, but no education is complete without a deep study of the history of the world's first modern nation. Dr Starkey is our pre-eminent living guide in that endeavour. His erudition is only outmatched by his courage - a quality that conservatives have conspicuously lacked of late. It is, and always has been, the moment.
Thank you, Dr Starkey, for bringing your perceptive insight, erudition and knowledge to inform us of our dire reality in this hour.
My favourite English historical and political commentator, with Victor Davis Hanson in the USA. They are insightful, brave and driven.
Hanson is a hack who whitewashes Trump's demagoguery & authoritarian, if not neo-fascist, tendencies.
Dr Starkey, we must differ. I believe Common Law has been the most successful experiment in the application of the jurisprudence of Moses' law, the Judeo-Christian tradition. It was anchored later in the Protestant interpretation of the relationship between the individual, church and society.
Without Protestantism it would almost certainly have failed. It is Protestant Christianity that has allowed England to achieve an amazing balance between rights and responsibilities. Forgive me if I have misunderstood you but you seem to be trying to anchor our constitution in Greek thought without sufficient regard for Protestant Christianity. Thank you for your talk.
Yes, well expressed, although I find this particular lecture a bit too "posturing" - a demonstration of his very particular convoluted knowledge rather than a straightforward explanation of the subject matter.
Moses's law? Pre dated by Hammurabi no? But ultimately, a theocracy is inconsistent with the fundamental personal freedom to which Starkey attributes the English political character...
The reformation succeeded in breaking the internationalist papist dual system via its heterodox thinking, which conveniently elevated the individual, but ultimately the genius of Henry 8 was to prevent the establishment of a different more austere protestant theocracy.
I think he was trying to imply that Judeo-Christian tradition ergo the Protestant interpretation of such was actually derived from Greco Roman thought. He was just going down a deep rabbit hole to try and make a compelling argument, as he so frequently does. 🙄 I do agree with your point though.
What a mighty man he is.
An amazing speech.
I pick up his themes over recent years if put into a📕 ,
A long intro Henry 8th-Burke.
A history of the Conservative Party. French Revolution begins Cons Party.
Use Disraeli’s legacy-Thatcher strangely Right leaning Whigs then Liberals entering a Conservative big Tent taming CONSERVATIVES. You need conservatives though to be tamed & in this era no Conservstive Party. It died.
Outstanding.
My third listen. Bravo
Scruton means the nuclear family and, he envisages individualism as being uniquely able to be realised within a community which supports development of persons with inner freedom, with an inner space of self determination which arises through the self management of inner stress learned in the care of loving parents. And, a thing can be substantive without being definable. As Scruton might have said, and Owen Barfield did, the core of the English community life has at its centre of kind of empty space in which freedoms of all kinds may emerge, rather than a set of prescribed freedoms granted explicitly from above.
Wonderfull to hear a true conservative.
3:45 Starkey begins
Unbelievable that ANYONE van think that the Conservative Party Leopard will ever change its spots.
Stars at about 3:45
Professor Starkey has made an error. Tacitus never described an Anglo-Saxon encampment. The Anglo-Saxons did not arrive in Britain until the 6th century.
Cancel him!
@FiveLiver must be a slip of the tongue
@@TJ_USA I suppose..(he'a cancelled anyway)
@@FiveLiver what again !!
He said that it was Alan MacFarland's "The Origins of English Individualism" - although it is not at the beginning but on page 170, and it's a quoting an observation from Montesque: "In persuing the admirable treatise of Tacitus On The Manner of the Germans we find it is from that nation the English have borrowed their idea of political government. This beautiful system was invented first in the woods" Nor was it merely the political system that was "borrowed" but also, he suggested, the land law and inheritance system. Crucial here was the fact that, as Montesquieu observed, the Germanic system as described by Tacitus was one of absolute individual property; there was no "group" which owned the land, and hence no idea that family and resources were inextricably linked.
Rule of lawyers will soon turn into rule of autocracy.
Here is Dr. Starkeys fatal flaw. The nuclear and extended family was always vital in Catholic England, reflecting Catholic doctrine. After the Tudors and Luther it was all downhill, accelerating right down to today's tyranny. Dr. Starkey may have personal reasons for wishing it were not so but Englishmen and women would do better today to follow its real patrimony. "Only men to whom the family is sacred will ever have a standard or a status by which to criticize the State. They alone can appeal to something more holy than the gods of the city."---G.K. Chesterton
If you had bothered to read the Origins of English Individualism you would know that the book Starkey refers to makes an attempt to describe the time from the early Norman era up to and beyond the dissolution of the monasteries. So he has described exactly how and when the change took place. Are you seriously suggesting that we need to return to the family values of 16th century England?
A real maste.
I think Scattershott would be a better title for this whole series of curmudgeonly, nostalgic meanderings.
Is this a joke?