(Subtitles are available in English and Korean.) (영어와 한국어 자막 사용 가능합니다.) It is depicted in the film that Constanze Manziarly commits suicide by taking cyanide capsule, but in reality she went missing. She escaped with Mohnke's group including Traudl Junge and Gerda Christian, and they were captured by the Soviets. The women was held in the Soviet occupied area in Berlin. Manziarly was wearing a German army jacket, so she went to find some civilian clothes while Junge waited for her. Then, two soviet soldiers took Manziarly to the Berlin Underground tunnel. She reassured Junge that they just want to check out her papers. Manziarly was never seen again since then. 영화에서는 마치 콘스탄체 만치아를리가 청산가리 캡슐로 자살하는 것으로 묘사되지만, 실제로 그녀는 실종되었습니다. 그녀는 트라우들 융에와 게르다 크리스티안이 포함된 몽케의 무리와 함께 탈출했고, 그들은 소련군에게 붙잡혔습니다. 그녀들은 베를린의 소련군 점령 구역 내에 억류되었습니다. 만치아를리는 독일군 야상을 입고 있었고, 그녀는 융에가 기다리는 동안 민간인 옷을 찾으러 갔습니다. 그때, 두 명의 소련군이 만치아를리를 베를린 지하철 터널로 데려갔습니다. 그녀는 그들이 자신의 서류를 확인하고 싶은 것 뿐이라며 융에를 안심시켰습니다. 만치아를리는 그 이후로 다시는 나타나지 않았습니다.
Subtitle: This is a complex topic now, I'll do my best to explain and to keep it simple at the same time. I am sorry for the confusion this may cause. The Prussian army did get rid of the rank "Corporal" in 1850, and they (now German army) had no such rank until 2021. They only reintroduced it because every other army in NATO seems to have that rank and this caused confusion in joint operations. "Korporal" was replaced by "Unteroffizier" in 1850, which is a rank between "Private" and "Sergeant" in other armies. At the same time German army had up to 5 different classes of "Private"/"Gefreiter" and the tasks other armies used to give to their "Corporals" were usually given to experienced "Privates" with higher classes like "Obergefreiter", "Hauptgefreiter", etc., while "Unteroffizier" had more complex tasks and more responsibility, closer to the tasks which are usually given to "Sergeants". Also German army has a rank (the lowest one) which is basically called "without rank" and is only used for untrained people or demoted soldiers. These "no-ranks" are named different each time, depending on the unit one is part of. Examples: "Soldat" (soldier), "Schütze" (rifleman), "Sansoldat" (med(ical) soldier), "Funker" (radio operator), "Panzergrenadier" (tank infantryman), etc. Interestingly these "no-ranks" are often translated to "Private" in English. IN SHORT: while in most other armies Corporals lead small troops of up to 6 men in the German army Privates of higher classes used to lead such troops. At the same time Germany had like 2 different "Sergeant"-ranks, while most other armies only had 1. Now SS-ranks are based on Wehrmachts-ranks and the rank "Sturmmann" has been associated with "Gefreiter". And "Gefreiter" equals "Private 4th class" (5th class today). According to NATO doctrin "Private 2nd class" (Stabsgefreiter) is associated with "Corporal". This causes confusion whenever German ranks are translated to English/American ranks in subtitles in basically every movie where German soldiers are shown. For example, Hitler has never been a Corporal or even a Sergeant, he was Private 4th class (5th class today). I have often heard about "Sergeant/Corporal Hitler" in WW1 from American sources. This is just not true, they simply don't understand our rank-system^^. I myself have been "Hauptgefreiter" (Private 3rd class) when I finished my time of duty. So even I had a higher rank than Hitler! :) CONCLUSION: ...that's why basically EVERY rank mentioned in the subtitles of this clip (of the soldiers who received the medals) is WRONG^^. They are all Privates, not Corporals.
@@zahgurim7838 Thanks for your detalied explanation. It didn't cause any confusion, it was clear. This kind of problem happens not only in this case, but also when someone is translating one's military ranks to another. It is also confusing for people because during WW2 German army ranks were divided into Heer and SS. Now I understand. Thanks again!
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I'm glad I could make it understandable. I see, this seems to be a common problem, maybe worldwide; ofc. I only know about it from the view of my own nation. Well, German army is structured quite logical compared to some other armies, lets say the American forces for example. Since WW1 there are: 1. Heer (ground forces), 2. Marine (naval forces), 3. Luftwaffe (air forces), 4. Sanitätscorps (medical corps). Heer has the infantry, artillery, tanks, scouts, MP, paratroopers, mountain troops, specialforces, logistics, etc.; everything that walks, crawls or drives. Marine has everything that swims and Luftwaffe has everything which is able to fly^^ Medics mix up with the 3 other branches, they usually don't fight so they are not specialized at different weapon platforms and systems which makes them interchangable within the branches. Each branch has its own traditional ranks (with different names), the ranks are on a par with each other and interchangable. Every soldier has to learn 83 different names and symbols for 26 different ranks in total while in bootcamp, which is quite a pain in the ass^^ In WW2 two other, former paramilitary organisations have been implemented: SA and SS, both with their own artificial (fantasy-like) ranks. Both organisations have a complicated history and have had many internal changes, but that's too much stuff to explain in youtube's comment section. In short: SA (Sturmabteilung) has been assimilated by the Nazis when Hitler unified the ultra-right-wing parties prior to his grasp for power. The members mainly consisted of party-loyal veterans of WW1 in the beginning and simple party members later. Their importance within the 3rd Reich had been decreased over the years. Hitler gained total control over them by executing their highest leader Ernst Röhm in 1934. SS (Schutzstaffel) was something completely different. They started as Hitler's private bodyguards and turned into an ultra-loyal elite-club of fanatics. The members consisted mainly of academic, well educated and handpicked men in the beginning and everybody who passed their selection process later. Their importance had been increased over the years especially when they started supporting the regular army (Wehrmacht) in battles. They had many sub-groups for different tasks, like Totenkopf-SS, Waffen-SS, Leibstandarte A.Hitler, SS-Panzerdivision, etc., for internal and external affairs. Their highest leader has been Heinrich Himmler. While the SA could be seen as kind of simple guard for internal affairs (police support troops), the SS was something like Hitler's personal version of modern Samurai - loyal only to the Shogun (Hitler), highly indoctrinated, highly trained, with their own rituals, culture and even own kind of "religion". It was seen as a high honor to be member of SS and even the Wehrmacht recognized their success in battle. However, they were the most brutal, inhumane troops of them all and caused the most suffering against civilians and minorities. After WW2 SS and SA were declared as "terror organisations" and forbidden; the 4 regular branches remained.
@@zahgurim7838 I've studied WW2 and known that there are differences in Wehrmacht, but your detailed explaination helped me a lot, thanks! It must have been a real pain in the ass for German soldiers to memorize all the ranks.^^ Like you said, after WW2 SS and SA were distinguished as war crime organizations, and their battle records and awards have been deleted and denied.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Ok. I don't want to sound like a "know-it-all", if I explain something to you you already have known before then this is not meant to be offensive. I still remember how they "taught" us the ranks^^. They gave us a list and two days to learn it. On the morning of second day they ordered us to visit the doc, but before we were allowed to enter the building they held up badges and 2 of us had to compete against each other in calling the rank of the shown badge. You had to have it right 2 times in a row otherwise you had to go back to the end of the line and do some push ups. It was like minus 20 degrees, we all wore tracksuits and were covered in sweat and some guys had to wait in front of the door for hours because they failed so many times^^. After about 4 days everybody had learned all ranks, nobody wanted to do push ups in the cold any more :)
@@zahgurim7838 That's another problem, but Berlin hanging at the edge of the war, German superiors didn't have time to consider about soldiers with heroic deeds in the past. They just wanted anyone who was still able to fight to keep on fighting till the end.
5:22 In real life Constanze Manziarly ended split up from Junge when they entered the Russian occupied portion of Berlin when she went to find some civilian clothes. The last time Junge saw Manziarly, she was being taken towards a U-Bahn subway tunnel by two Soviet soldiers, still in her Wehrmacht uniform, ostensibly to "see her papers". She was never seen or heard from since, and her body has never been found. The most obvious reasons why she disappeared are horrible and better left unsaid, but it's 99,9% certain she never left that tunnel alive. For all the grittiness of Der Untertang and the desire to stick to what happened, that the circumstances behind Manziarly's dissapearance were not even suggested left me a bit puzzled when I saw the movie. All they needed to do was to contrast Junge's fate with Manziarly's, showing her following two Soviet soldiers in good trust and reassuring Junge that she'll be allright, then hit the audience with the whammy by mentioning at the end that while Junge survived to tell her tale, Manziarly was never heard from again. That would have been enough to allude to her horrible fate with tact while respecting the events. Instead, they just show her giving up, which was not what happened at all. It was a weird editorial decision.
@@hannahdyson7129 She may have lived under another another name and lead a quiet life Quiet a few top official Nazis including Hitlers inner circle lived long lives with no records of them ever doing so
Great film. I love how she transformed from indoors private secretary to running through the dirt in soldier's uniform, almost flawlessly. She knew her survival depended on keeping up with the others.
Fun fact in the real breakout there was a working Tiger 2 that helped the bunker staff and soldiers break out to the bridge. The movie sets it accurately the first group successfully crosses the bridge and the second group including Martin borman and other high ranking officials were slaughtered by the Russians.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I've always been fascinated with the Battle of Berlin and researched it quite frequently. Must have been a crazy feeling realizing almost certain death if you didn't escape West to the Americans. Thanks for the awesome upload! Great movie.
5:23 So that’s what happens with Manziarly - she decides to give up and probably gets taken out when the second group tries to cross the bridge. In the theatrical release, she simply disappears from the movie during the escape
I think general Wilhelm Mohnke intentionally made his way to Russian troops instead of surrendering to western allies because he was afraid that he would be trialed and sentenced for his involvement in massacres of Canadian, American and British soldiers on western front. He committed no such act on eastern front so Mohnke was expecting better treatment from Russians which they did. Upon surrendering Mohnke and Dr Schenk were treated by banquet by Vasily Chauky and he was imprisoned in officers camp in volvo along with German Field marshalls and generals. He never faced and died in Damp in 2001.
@@danieltobin4498Maybe has something to do with his assignment. Mohnke never served in Eastern Front for long time, he was assigned on the Western Front most of the time, until the defense of Berlin. So most of his atrocities under his command occured in the Western Front.
Small fry compared to what the US and UK pulled during the end and after the war in terms of harboring eastern front war criminals. Where do you think the Canadian ukrainian diasphora comes from?
cut out scenes are usually lower quality but the scene at 3:32 should have been left in, really powerful scene because it introduces the hopelesness of the bunker perfectly this cut scene shows the bunker was defended by a soldier who you cant even tell if he was in civilian clothes and volkssturm who gave up fighting
interestingly, all of the men being awarded are SS-Sturmmann which is equivalent to the Heer rank of Gefreiter which is then translated to Corporal. this is wrong however, as a Gefreiter was more so a senior private because his only reward was a higher pay
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE yes you are right. the SS ranks were very odd because it was inspired more so by the Freikorps of the Weimar, which were of course inspired by the German armies ranks
Să nu uităm ,erau spuma fuhrerului SS-ești, îndoctrinați de nazism pînă în străfundul ființei lor ,în Romania anilor de totalitarism ,securiștii, egalul SS erau la fel, trebuie doar să vezi cum a căzut regimul și conducătorul regimului comunist, dictatorul Ceaușescu?
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE It's possible . She may have lived under another another name and lead a quiet life Quiet a few top official Nazis including Hitlers inner circle lived long lives with no records of them ever doing so
It has been said the last two Iron Cross medals were given to two French SS of the “Charlemagne” Division. They were the only Axis troops who broke through the Russian ring around Berlin.
There was another comment talking about how the guard at one railway station closed the gates so they had to take a different route? I will see what video it was, quite the interesting story
This is explained in JPO’Donnels book ‘…the Berlin Bunker…’ The guards at the gate were Berlin transport workers and claimed that the gate had to be closed due to regulations. Mohnke cursed himself for obeying during the 10 years he spent in Soviet captivity. I suppose it shows how deeply obeying rules was part of the third reich.
At 1:35, an unbelievable scene unfolds. A broken man, seemingly fated for hell, likely facing a gruesome end. His mind seems unable to grasp the destiny he's living through at this moment. Yet, paradoxically, the very system that inflicted this pain now honors him in a ceremony, once more reducing him to a mere puppet. In this moment, he finds himself powerless to defend the principles he was meant to uphold, the very ones he once held dear.
as horrific as this portrays life in april 1945, NOTHING compares to the REAL HORRORS of the tremendous amount of suffering endured by millions of people throughout europe. TOO NUMEROUS TO COUNT!
@@zahgurim7838 I don't speak German (I'm Korean), so I tried to translate the German subtitle contained in the DVD into English. Although there might be many misinterpretations because the subtitle doesn't completely match what the character actually says. It seems that the subtitle is based on the film's script. Thanks for letting me know, I'll correct the subtitle.
@@zahgurim7838 Can you tell me if there are any more misinterpretations in my other deleted scene videos? It would be very helpful if you let me know. Thanks!
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I'll watch them again and will comment if I find something else. It is not that the english subtitles are bad, but German sometimes can be a very complex language and hard to put in just a few words.
There are always two parts of audience: The ones who are fully aware of the historical background, watching the movie with a differentiated approach. And then the others - well, like that guy I remember from cinema, after watching "James Ryan" in 1998 who complained about some of the German tanks having the wrong chassis.................... No matter how brillant a director might be - idiots will always see (or NOT see) what they want.
One of them looks like he is SS. As well as anyone who was a fanatic of the Nazis likely still decided to just cope and believe an act of god could happen and they could fight off the Russians. So probably didn't mind getting a medal in their minds. Most soldiers probably wouldn't give a damn to do what they did taking those risks
@@giovannicervantes2053So much gaslighting. " Here's an award for defending a street that, oops.... looks like the Soviets are about to take it back in 5 minutes."
Yup, that is why the russian soldier was astonished when he saw her, and was oggling her with not more reaction than offering her a cup of vodka. A little effort of chivalry there
People need to remember that any and every film is a dramatic reconstruction and not an accurate documentary. Even in modern events of less import various witnesses will give conflicting accounts of precise events so to expect actual reality from a drama is hoping and believing too much.
@@ЯтвойНачальник-р3кIt was not uncommon in the last few months of the war. Horses were used to move supplies as motor fuel became exhausted, and animals killed by Allied attacks were often butchered where they fell by desperate Germans, civilians and soldiers alike.
The Nazis controlled the media and told the German people many many lies and made them believe it was the truth. You couldn’t even own a typewriter without being a member of the nazi party.
I watched a new colourised doco, think it was World at War, covering the final 2 weeks of Berlin. These stats I remember....over 100,000 women raped by Russian infantry (some many times over and by groups) and 224,000 men and boys (from 10yrs) killed defending the city. (940,000+ Russians attacking). On average, that's one defender killed every minute 24/7. The Russians were finally ordered not to rape and the NKVD began executing their own men to enforce it.
So you feel very sad for those poor women of Berlin, right? How about starved million in Leningrad, or millions bombed to death in Stalingrad, Kiev, Sevastopol? Not so much, right - your sympathies are with the “civilised Europeans”?
On August 23, 1942, Stalingrad was subjected to the first massive aerial bombardment, which literally crushed it to the ground. They bombed in a continuous carpet, without selecting individual targets. The Luftwaffe pilots had one task - to wipe the city off the face of the earth. According to historians, between 40 and 90 thousand people died. About 50 thousand were injured. 309 city enterprises were destroyed.
I actually want to find the Extended version of this movie so bad (and own it if possible), but from what i heard, the extended cut only sold in germany. If anyone has any hint on how to get the full movie extended version PLEASE let me know!
I see lots of STG 44s (first assault rifle). They were an excellent rifle, but actually weren't very common. Hitler considered them unworthy of the German soldier. His subordinates went ahead and manufactured them on the down low.
@@Kylo_ren518 The officer handing out the iron crosses at 4:50 is not Max Mueller. As CDA Croix Rouge suggested, it could be indeed Krukenberg decorating some of his Nordland troops.
Traudl did NOT deserve to go what she went through. She was so young, and she got recruited not knowing how evil Hitler was. Or knowing what his decisions caused, until she forced to see them firsthand.
She knew exactly what a nazism and war is. Just for her that was normality. She knew how germans invaded other countries, how dissidents and minorities magically vanished (people knew about a camps, just not all about death camps). She was 19 when Poland was invaded. She married an SS-man. In a bunker no one was innocent, even young secretary was a part of war and death machine
@@WielkaStopa-qh1rr here is a real black pill. If Traudl were born today she’d be marching for BLM and abortion rights, women are generally followers of the status quo.
Es waren Menschen die um ihr Überleben kämpften! Und wenn sie schon von Mördern sprechen, das waren jene die den Befehl gaben Deutsche Zivilisten zu 100000 mit Bomben-/Spreng-/ und sogar Napalm(!) zu ermorden! Oder Deutsche Soldaten auf den Rheinwiesenlagern zu 100000 zu ermorden. Oder die bereits Gefangene Deutsche Soldaten mit Genickschuß zu 100000 ermordeten. Von den in die Millionen gehenden Vergewaltigungs(morden) nicht zu reden! Also Vorsicht mit diesem Propagandamüll a'la Sefton Delmer, denn Typen wie er und Ilja Ehrenburg oder auch ein Luftmarshal Harris waren Kriegsverbrecher! Möge Karma alle Lügner ereilen!
what is the point of making up your own history? the majority of the city defenders were kids, volkssturm and random servicemen converted into ground troops(why you see different uniforms on almost all soldiers, especially famous for this are luftwaffe) almost every surviving army was pinned down in other battles which is why they couldnt support the city
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@@KORHISTORYARCHIVEthey wanted the Nazi ideology has always been to push East to Soviet Union the war declaration with France and Britain only postponed their mission
I remember this one. An angry guy revolted. Then they let him run for office. He told his supporters that they were "victims" and that he would "make them great again". This is how it ended.
Am I supposed to fill compassion for the Nazis here? Not Germans but Nazis. Because I gave not one shred of sympathy for any Nazi regardless of the pain there are in, like they had none for my Grandfather they wounded and almost killed. Yet have no hatred for the German people because my great great grandparents immigrated from Bavaria long before WWII,
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It is depicted in the film that Constanze Manziarly commits suicide by taking cyanide capsule, but in reality she went missing. She escaped with Mohnke's group including Traudl Junge and Gerda Christian, and they were captured by the Soviets. The women was held in the Soviet occupied area in Berlin. Manziarly was wearing a German army jacket, so she went to find some civilian clothes while Junge waited for her. Then, two soviet soldiers took Manziarly to the Berlin Underground tunnel. She reassured Junge that they just want to check out her papers. Manziarly was never seen again since then.
영화에서는 마치 콘스탄체 만치아를리가 청산가리 캡슐로 자살하는 것으로 묘사되지만, 실제로 그녀는 실종되었습니다. 그녀는 트라우들 융에와 게르다 크리스티안이 포함된 몽케의 무리와 함께 탈출했고, 그들은 소련군에게 붙잡혔습니다. 그녀들은 베를린의 소련군 점령 구역 내에 억류되었습니다. 만치아를리는 독일군 야상을 입고 있었고, 그녀는 융에가 기다리는 동안 민간인 옷을 찾으러 갔습니다. 그때, 두 명의 소련군이 만치아를리를 베를린 지하철 터널로 데려갔습니다. 그녀는 그들이 자신의 서류를 확인하고 싶은 것 뿐이라며 융에를 안심시켰습니다. 만치아를리는 그 이후로 다시는 나타나지 않았습니다.
Subtitle:
This is a complex topic now, I'll do my best to explain and to keep it simple at the same time. I am sorry for the confusion this may cause.
The Prussian army did get rid of the rank "Corporal" in 1850, and they (now German army) had no such rank until 2021. They only reintroduced it because every other army in NATO seems to have that rank and this caused confusion in joint operations.
"Korporal" was replaced by "Unteroffizier" in 1850, which is a rank between "Private" and "Sergeant" in other armies.
At the same time German army had up to 5 different classes of "Private"/"Gefreiter" and the tasks other armies used to give to their "Corporals" were usually given to experienced "Privates" with higher classes like "Obergefreiter", "Hauptgefreiter", etc., while "Unteroffizier" had more complex tasks and more responsibility, closer to the tasks which are usually given to "Sergeants".
Also German army has a rank (the lowest one) which is basically called "without rank" and is only used for untrained people or demoted soldiers.
These "no-ranks" are named different each time, depending on the unit one is part of.
Examples: "Soldat" (soldier), "Schütze" (rifleman), "Sansoldat" (med(ical) soldier), "Funker" (radio operator), "Panzergrenadier" (tank infantryman), etc.
Interestingly these "no-ranks" are often translated to "Private" in English.
IN SHORT: while in most other armies Corporals lead small troops of up to 6 men in the German army Privates of higher classes used to lead such troops.
At the same time Germany had like 2 different "Sergeant"-ranks, while most other armies only had 1.
Now SS-ranks are based on Wehrmachts-ranks and the rank "Sturmmann" has been associated with "Gefreiter".
And "Gefreiter" equals "Private 4th class" (5th class today).
According to NATO doctrin "Private 2nd class" (Stabsgefreiter) is associated with "Corporal".
This causes confusion whenever German ranks are translated to English/American ranks in subtitles in basically every movie where German soldiers are shown.
For example, Hitler has never been a Corporal or even a Sergeant, he was Private 4th class (5th class today).
I have often heard about "Sergeant/Corporal Hitler" in WW1 from American sources. This is just not true, they simply don't understand our rank-system^^.
I myself have been "Hauptgefreiter" (Private 3rd class) when I finished my time of duty. So even I had a higher rank than Hitler! :)
CONCLUSION:
...that's why basically EVERY rank mentioned in the subtitles of this clip (of the soldiers who received the medals) is WRONG^^.
They are all Privates, not Corporals.
@@zahgurim7838 Thanks for your detalied explanation. It didn't cause any confusion, it was clear. This kind of problem happens not only in this case, but also when someone is translating one's military ranks to another. It is also confusing for people because during WW2 German army ranks were divided into Heer and SS. Now I understand. Thanks again!
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I'm glad I could make it understandable.
I see, this seems to be a common problem, maybe worldwide; ofc. I only know about it from the view of my own nation.
Well, German army is structured quite logical compared to some other armies, lets say the American forces for example.
Since WW1 there are:
1. Heer (ground forces),
2. Marine (naval forces),
3. Luftwaffe (air forces),
4. Sanitätscorps (medical corps).
Heer has the infantry, artillery, tanks, scouts, MP, paratroopers, mountain troops, specialforces, logistics, etc.; everything that walks, crawls or drives.
Marine has everything that swims and Luftwaffe has everything which is able to fly^^
Medics mix up with the 3 other branches, they usually don't fight so they are not specialized at different weapon platforms and systems which makes them interchangable within the branches.
Each branch has its own traditional ranks (with different names), the ranks are on a par with each other and interchangable.
Every soldier has to learn 83 different names and symbols for 26 different ranks in total while in bootcamp, which is quite a pain in the ass^^
In WW2 two other, former paramilitary organisations have been implemented: SA and SS, both with their own artificial (fantasy-like) ranks.
Both organisations have a complicated history and have had many internal changes, but that's too much stuff to explain in youtube's comment section.
In short:
SA (Sturmabteilung) has been assimilated by the Nazis when Hitler unified the ultra-right-wing parties prior to his grasp for power. The members mainly consisted of party-loyal veterans of WW1 in the beginning and simple party members later. Their importance within the 3rd Reich had been decreased over the years. Hitler gained total control over them by executing their highest leader Ernst Röhm in 1934.
SS (Schutzstaffel) was something completely different. They started as Hitler's private bodyguards and turned into an ultra-loyal elite-club of fanatics. The members consisted mainly of academic, well educated and handpicked men in the beginning and everybody who passed their selection process later. Their importance had been increased over the years especially when they started supporting the regular army (Wehrmacht) in battles. They had many sub-groups for different tasks, like Totenkopf-SS, Waffen-SS, Leibstandarte A.Hitler, SS-Panzerdivision, etc., for internal and external affairs. Their highest leader has been Heinrich Himmler.
While the SA could be seen as kind of simple guard for internal affairs (police support troops), the SS was something like Hitler's personal version of modern Samurai - loyal only to the Shogun (Hitler), highly indoctrinated, highly trained, with their own rituals, culture and even own kind of "religion".
It was seen as a high honor to be member of SS and even the Wehrmacht recognized their success in battle.
However, they were the most brutal, inhumane troops of them all and caused the most suffering against civilians and minorities.
After WW2 SS and SA were declared as "terror organisations" and forbidden; the 4 regular branches remained.
@@zahgurim7838 I've studied WW2 and known that there are differences in Wehrmacht, but your detailed explaination helped me a lot, thanks! It must have been a real pain in the ass for German soldiers to memorize all the ranks.^^
Like you said, after WW2 SS and SA were distinguished as war crime organizations, and their battle records and awards have been deleted and denied.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Ok. I don't want to sound like a "know-it-all", if I explain something to you you already have known before then this is not meant to be offensive.
I still remember how they "taught" us the ranks^^. They gave us a list and two days to learn it. On the morning of second day they ordered us to visit the doc, but before we were allowed to enter the building they held up badges and 2 of us had to compete against each other in calling the rank of the shown badge.
You had to have it right 2 times in a row otherwise you had to go back to the end of the line and do some push ups.
It was like minus 20 degrees, we all wore tracksuits and were covered in sweat and some guys had to wait in front of the door for hours because they failed so many times^^.
After about 4 days everybody had learned all ranks, nobody wanted to do push ups in the cold any more :)
they were giving awards at this time. amazing
By this time, medals such as Iron Cross were meaningless, so these medals were simply given to soldiers with small military accomplishments.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Correct; a pathetic attempt to keep morale high.
@@zahgurim7838 At least the medals can make the soldiers to keep on fighting...
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Yes, but it dishonored the soldiers who achieved the same medals earlier in the war under harsher and more heroic circumstances.
@@zahgurim7838 That's another problem, but Berlin hanging at the edge of the war, German superiors didn't have time to consider about soldiers with heroic deeds in the past. They just wanted anyone who was still able to fight to keep on fighting till the end.
5:22 In real life Constanze Manziarly ended split up from Junge when they entered the Russian occupied portion of Berlin when she went to find some civilian clothes. The last time Junge saw Manziarly, she was being taken towards a U-Bahn subway tunnel by two Soviet soldiers, still in her Wehrmacht uniform, ostensibly to "see her papers". She was never seen or heard from since, and her body has never been found. The most obvious reasons why she disappeared are horrible and better left unsaid, but it's 99,9% certain she never left that tunnel alive.
For all the grittiness of Der Untertang and the desire to stick to what happened, that the circumstances behind Manziarly's dissapearance were not even suggested left me a bit puzzled when I saw the movie. All they needed to do was to contrast Junge's fate with Manziarly's, showing her following two Soviet soldiers in good trust and reassuring Junge that she'll be allright, then hit the audience with the whammy by mentioning at the end that while Junge survived to tell her tale, Manziarly was never heard from again. That would have been enough to allude to her horrible fate with tact while respecting the events. Instead, they just show her giving up, which was not what happened at all. It was a weird editorial decision.
Interesante.
much detail lost in the film?
I suspect her fate is unknown,.
@@hannahdyson7129 She most certainly died, there'd be records if she was taken prisoner.
@@hannahdyson7129 She may have lived under another another name and lead a quiet life
Quiet a few top official Nazis including Hitlers inner circle lived long lives with no records of them ever doing so
As a German I am not astonished about this editorial decision.
Poor soldier at 3:30, he was like accepting his destiny but with the idea to fight and defend those people...
Great film.
I love how she transformed from indoors private secretary to running through the dirt in soldier's uniform, almost flawlessly.
She knew her survival depended on keeping up with the others.
لا يوجد في الحرب سكرتير في الميدان هناك مجند يجب أن يحمي نفسه ويحمي أصدقاء ه مع محلولة الانتقاص من أعداءه
Erfunden und erlogen, nur Lügen Märchen....
Fun fact in the real breakout there was a working Tiger 2 that helped the bunker staff and soldiers break out to the bridge. The movie sets it accurately the first group successfully crosses the bridge and the second group including Martin borman and other high ranking officials were slaughtered by the Russians.
Many Germans tried to escape Berlin and reach Western Front to surrender to the Americans, but some of them didn't make it.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I've always been fascinated with the Battle of Berlin and researched it quite frequently. Must have been a crazy feeling realizing almost certain death if you didn't escape West to the Americans. Thanks for the awesome upload! Great movie.
@@AK36677 Thanks for watching!
US and soviet intelligence suggest martin borman did escape to south america and lived a long life
@@Nigscoop His body was found in 1970s in Berlin.
Now this is a scene that is never used in the parodies.
Let's make one.😂
@@stipevukadin15100:58 when the u-bahn sloppy toppy is too damn good
I think those parodies are not funny anyway especially if the viewers are fluent in German language.
@@stipevukadin151 I imagine a parody of this scene with lots of lamp shading and fourth wall breaking,
Because there was hardly any talking
5:23 So that’s what happens with Manziarly - she decides to give up and probably gets taken out when the second group tries to cross the bridge. In the theatrical release, she simply disappears from the movie during the escape
In actual history, she was taken by two Soviet soldiers into the tunnel, and was never seen since then.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVEI can’t even imagine what horror she faced down there.
@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 In the film she looks +40 years old but in real life she was 25 at the time. Poor girls...
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE she was Raped
I think general Wilhelm Mohnke intentionally made his way to Russian troops instead of surrendering to western allies because he was afraid that he would be trialed and sentenced for his involvement in massacres of Canadian, American and British soldiers on western front. He committed no such act on eastern front so Mohnke was expecting better treatment from Russians which they did. Upon surrendering Mohnke and Dr Schenk were treated by banquet by Vasily Chauky and he was imprisoned in officers camp in volvo along with German Field marshalls and generals. He never faced and died in Damp in 2001.
Whatever reason did he choose to surrender, he managed to save his life.
He executed Western prisoners but didn't do the same with Eastern ones? Usually it's the opposite, so that is rather odd
@@danieltobin4498Maybe has something to do with his assignment. Mohnke never served in Eastern Front for long time, he was assigned on the Western Front most of the time, until the defense of Berlin. So most of his atrocities under his command occured in the Western Front.
Small fry compared to what the US and UK pulled during the end and after the war in terms of harboring eastern front war criminals.
Where do you think the Canadian ukrainian diasphora comes from?
vlad_47 small fry compared to Stalin had done even *before* Hitler came into power and *after* WW2
"I don't want to go into Soviet gulag without ever getting to hold an iron cross"
for a iron cross you have to be a very good soldier...
Nothing was you in America become....
On the last day of the war they were still awarding the EK2. Nice detail.
cut out scenes are usually lower quality but the scene at 3:32 should have been left in, really powerful scene because it introduces the hopelesness of the bunker perfectly
this cut scene shows the bunker was defended by a soldier who you cant even tell if he was in civilian clothes and volkssturm who gave up fighting
This group was escaping aside a honouring celemony. So confused.
Well, due to the losing situation, the medal awards became less honourable by the time...
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE still an iron cross
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE the fact they’re continuing to fight bravely despite the utterly hopeless situation is deserving of an award itself
@@chrisstucker1813they did not fight they ran
@@promiseinnocent7560I think the other person was talking about the ones who are still fighting. Some stayed and fought, some ran.
interestingly, all of the men being awarded are SS-Sturmmann which is equivalent to the Heer rank of Gefreiter which is then translated to Corporal. this is wrong however, as a Gefreiter was more so a senior private because his only reward was a higher pay
It's quite hard to match SS ranks to other nation's ranks.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE yes you are right. the SS ranks were very odd because it was inspired more so by the Freikorps of the Weimar, which were of course inspired by the German armies ranks
😊@@robowisanveithasung6022
It's a common error, equating stripes to British or American Corporal rank. Even Vets routinely make this mistake.
@@JayM409 yep
I feel bad for Gunsche when they're crouching, poor bastard has to basically lay down
Yeah he's a tall oaf.
I'm sure that those soldiers receiving the Iron Crosses would have preferred some Morphine than the medals.
Să nu uităm ,erau spuma fuhrerului SS-ești, îndoctrinați de nazism pînă în străfundul ființei lor ,în Romania anilor de totalitarism ,securiștii, egalul SS erau la fel, trebuie doar să vezi cum a căzut regimul și conducătorul regimului comunist, dictatorul Ceaușescu?
maziarly disappeared completely. her body was never found
That is a real mistery.
Possibility she may have lived if the Russians didn't find her
@@hannahdyson7129 Sadly, there's no record that she lived.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE It's possible . She may have lived under another another name and lead a quiet life
Quiet a few top official Nazis including Hitlers inner circle lived long lives with no records of them ever doing so
@@hannahdyson7129 I hope she lived.
Still handing out medals . . . nuts.
It has been said the last two Iron Cross medals were given to two French SS of the “Charlemagne” Division. They were the only Axis troops who broke through the Russian ring around Berlin.
There was another comment talking about how the guard at one railway station closed the gates so they had to take a different route? I will see what video it was, quite the interesting story
I haven't heard about that one.
Dr. Mark Felton discusses that in his series about Martin Bormann's demise. I don't remember the specific video but it's a great watch.
This is explained in JPO’Donnels book ‘…the Berlin Bunker…’ The guards at the gate were Berlin transport workers and claimed that the gate had to be closed due to regulations. Mohnke cursed himself for obeying during the 10 years he spent in Soviet captivity. I suppose it shows how deeply obeying rules was part of the third reich.
@@paulmasterson386 Yes! This was the story, thank you
Man I hate when they cut scenes. It often leaves out so much character underline.
dressed as SS soldier during battle of berlin IS NOT A GOOD IDEA
At 1:35, an unbelievable scene unfolds.
A broken man, seemingly fated for hell, likely facing a gruesome end.
His mind seems unable to grasp the destiny he's living through at this moment.
Yet, paradoxically, the very system that inflicted this pain now honors him in a ceremony, once more reducing him to a mere puppet.
In this moment, he finds himself powerless to defend the principles he was meant to uphold, the very ones he once held dear.
Where can I get a copy of the extended version?
The only copy you can find is a German DVD of the extended version.
@@aztro4010 this movie is in some streaming platform?
@@mauriciosfrecola3428it's full movie is on TH-cam
@@mauriciosfrecola3428 amazon video
Very few media remind me of the sheer desperation and suicidal struggle in the Terminator series' future war scenes. This one does.
as horrific as this portrays life in april 1945, NOTHING compares to the REAL HORRORS of the tremendous amount of suffering endured by millions of people throughout europe. TOO NUMEROUS TO COUNT!
I agree.
Don't forget Asia as well
Yup, those Nazis just got a small taste of what they dished out
2:15 were those the second group or the Soviets they do look like soviets from far away but its more logical that they are german
They were the second group of German soldiers which tried to escape, and they are getting slaughtered by the Soviets.
The subtitle fails here; Traudl says "there come the others", not "here they come".
@@zahgurim7838 I don't speak German (I'm Korean), so I tried to translate the German subtitle contained in the DVD into English. Although there might be many misinterpretations because the subtitle doesn't completely match what the character actually says. It seems that the subtitle is based on the film's script. Thanks for letting me know, I'll correct the subtitle.
@@zahgurim7838 Can you tell me if there are any more misinterpretations in my other deleted scene videos? It would be very helpful if you let me know. Thanks!
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I'll watch them again and will comment if I find something else.
It is not that the english subtitles are bad, but German sometimes can be a very complex language and hard to put in just a few words.
Just jump to 2:32 to see the extended scene.
There are always two parts of audience:
The ones who are fully aware of the historical background, watching the movie with a differentiated approach.
And then the others - well, like that guy I remember from cinema, after watching "James Ryan" in 1998 who complained about some of the German tanks having the wrong chassis....................
No matter how brillant a director might be - idiots will always see (or NOT see) what they want.
Lots of men are detail oriented....you need these men to keep your bridges from collapsing, and your fridge working...don't be a smug dick.
Einer der Besten deutschen Filme!
Ja!
@Quelle87sFk
Einst hatte unser Volk mehr leisten können als dies!
It gives me Terminator 1 vibes. When Kyle Reese goes down to into some bunker or basement, filled with survivors and resistance.
XD
Are you comparing the asiatic hordes of the soviets to the terminators? Because you're damn right
저런 상황에서도 상장 수여식을 하네요..
패전 직전까지 가니 훈장이 의미가 없어져서 그냥 작은 전공만 세워도 막 뿌렸습니다.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE 근데 일찍 일어나시네요 ㄷㄷ 전 야간 알바 끝나고 이제 자려고 합니다
@@왕왕고기찜 저는 아침 알바 가는 중입니다 ㅋㅋㅋ 안녕히 주무세요
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 반갑네요 무슨 알바 하시나요 전 편의점이용
@@왕왕고기찜 전 아버지 회사 일 돕고 있습니다 ㅋㅋㅋ
Who died in the end? Is it Martin borrman?
Nope, he is Max Müller. Müller was a German SS captain and Ernst-Günther Schenck's adjutant.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE No, whoever that was was an army major, not an SS captain, per the dialog
@@JS-wp4gs They called Müller to take cover. It is Müller.
I thought he was the chauffeur.
BTW, Martin Bormann is another MIA Jimmy hoffa, unsolved mystery.
the giving out medals bit is lol , you think they would all look at each other and fk this im off. The absurdity humans are capable of
I agree.
And what sucks worse is being one of those "every man for themselves" soldiers would put a target on your back brighter than the sun for both sides
That same absurdity, under entirely different circumstances, could be described as heroic.
One of them looks like he is SS.
As well as anyone who was a fanatic of the Nazis likely still decided to just cope and believe an act of god could happen and they could fight off the Russians.
So probably didn't mind getting a medal in their minds.
Most soldiers probably wouldn't give a damn to do what they did taking those risks
@@giovannicervantes2053So much gaslighting. " Here's an award for defending a street that, oops.... looks like the Soviets are about to take it back in 5 minutes."
Traudl looks frikkin’ hot in a battle uniform. Just sayin’.
True
Wait till you see her in her battle bikini.
Simp
@@luisr.6543 Yea lol
Yup, that is why the russian soldier was astonished when he saw her, and was oggling her with not more reaction than offering her a cup of vodka. A little effort of chivalry there
희귀한 영상 보여주심에 정말 감사드립니다! 다만 이해가 안 되는 점이 있는데 0:20 ~ 0:22 부근에서 중절모를 쓴 시민들이 톱으로 자르고 있는 것이 무엇인가요? 짐승의 사체인 줄 알았는데 다시 보니 피가 잘 안 보여서요....
동물 사체가 맞는 것 같습니다. 아마 소나 말인 것 같네요. 베를린 전투 당시 소련군의 포위망 때문에 식량 공급이 끊겨서, 베를린 시민들은 아무거나 닥치는 대로 먹었다고 합니다. 피가 안 나오는 이유는 저도 잘 모르겠네요...
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE
If the carcass is old enough, the blood is dried meaning it won’t pour out like a fresh body.
@@GRANOLA77 Thanks for noticing!
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE 죽었으니 심장이 안뛸테고 그럼 피도 안나오겠지요 ㅎㅎ
@@audiquattros-rf1of 죽은지 얼마 안됐으면 나올텐데, 죽은지 좀 오래된것 같네요
People need to remember that any and every film is a dramatic reconstruction and not an accurate documentary. Even in modern events of less import various witnesses will give conflicting accounts of precise events so to expect actual reality from a drama is hoping and believing too much.
0:24 What were they cutting?
Тот же вопрос
They were cutting meat from a dead horse.
@@brinsonharris9816 так вот что они собрались пожрать, хорошо что не человек
@@ЯтвойНачальник-р3кIt was not uncommon in the last few months of the war. Horses were used to move supplies as motor fuel became exhausted, and animals killed by Allied attacks were often butchered where they fell by desperate Germans, civilians and soldiers alike.
@@ЯтвойНачальник-р3кthe same thing they did in the civil war when Grant and Sherman Marston Georgia and Savannah there was no food except horses😅😮😊
This scane is propably inspired by the film 'Stalingrad' (1993)
she's watching the guy with his guts hanging out
혹시 이런 삭제필름은 어디서 구하나요?
제가 이베이에서 삭제장면이 포함된 감독판 DVD를 직접 샀습니다. 인터넷에서도 감독판 토렌트를 다운받을 수는 있습니다.
how is it possible so many people could pledge blind obedience and loyalty to a lunatic?
Ask the MAGA's - same blind idiot personalities looking for a savior.
The Nazis controlled the media and told the German people many many lies and made them believe it was the truth. You couldn’t even own a typewriter without being a member of the nazi party.
I ask myself the same, and yet MAGA is a thing today.
People don’t learn from history with obvious consequences
@@elevenseven-yq4vu only difference with Trump (which will be his downfall ) is he has no political cause or beliefs he is just a wealthy grifter.
Who in their right mind would don an SS uniform when you're trying to break out of a city surrounded by Russians?
That was all that was available. Steel helmets protect against shrapnel,and uniforms make people less detectable.
Who were "the others" in 6:07? Any historic persons?
No, I think they are just bunch of German soldiers.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Martin Bormann was among them.
@@stoneylonesome4062 Possible. He was later found killed during the escape.
I watched a new colourised doco, think it was World at War, covering the final 2 weeks of Berlin. These stats I remember....over 100,000 women raped by Russian infantry (some many times over and by groups) and 224,000 men and boys (from 10yrs) killed defending the city. (940,000+ Russians attacking). On average, that's one defender killed every minute 24/7. The Russians were finally ordered not to rape and the NKVD began executing their own men to enforce it.
It's a lie. In the Red Army, throughout the war, those who killed civilians, raped or looted were shot on the spot. Unlike the German army
So you feel very sad for those poor women of Berlin, right? How about starved million in Leningrad, or millions bombed to death in Stalingrad, Kiev, Sevastopol? Not so much, right - your sympathies are with the “civilised Europeans”?
On August 23, 1942, Stalingrad was subjected to the first massive aerial bombardment, which literally crushed it to the ground.
They bombed in a continuous carpet, without selecting individual targets. The Luftwaffe pilots had one task - to wipe the city off the face of the earth.
According to historians, between 40 and 90 thousand people died. About 50 thousand were injured. 309 city enterprises were destroyed.
In 1941 Germany starved 2 million Soviet PoWs to death.
@@kurmakayev does one evil justify another?
I actually want to find the Extended version of this movie so bad (and own it if possible), but from what i heard, the extended cut only sold in germany. If anyone has any hint on how to get the full movie extended version PLEASE let me know!
I see lots of STG 44s (first assault rifle). They were an excellent rifle, but actually weren't very common. Hitler considered them unworthy of the German soldier. His subordinates went ahead and manufactured them on the down low.
4.50 oberguppenfuhrer krukenberg?
Maybe...
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE that was actually Max Müller, Dr. Ernst-Günther Schenck's adjutant, he mostly is seen with the Dr. throughout the movie.
@@Kylo_ren518 Yes, and he died during the escape.
@@Kylo_ren518 The officer handing out the iron crosses at 4:50 is not Max Mueller. As CDA Croix Rouge suggested, it could be indeed Krukenberg decorating some of his Nordland troops.
I thought kruckenberg was brigade leader, not obergruppenfuherer
Traudl did NOT deserve to go what she went through. She was so young, and she got recruited not knowing how evil Hitler was. Or knowing what his decisions caused, until she forced to see them firsthand.
Like working for evil Joe Xiden and his marxist globo cronies. Poor sheep have no idea.
She knew exactly what a nazism and war is. Just for her that was normality. She knew how germans invaded other countries, how dissidents and minorities magically vanished (people knew about a camps, just not all about death camps). She was 19 when Poland was invaded. She married an SS-man. In a bunker no one was innocent, even young secretary was a part of war and death machine
@@WielkaStopa-qh1rr here is a real black pill. If Traudl were born today she’d be marching for BLM and abortion rights, women are generally followers of the status quo.
@@WielkaStopa-qh1rrnot necessarily
superb film
YEP--War is Terrible; Best not to start one, isn't it?
soon all over Europe again, thanks to the USA "ally" and hegemon.
Its what the euro sheeps want tho
These holdouts were the hardest of the hardcore Nazis that managed to survive. They were the perpetrators of extermination mass murders, not heroes.
Yeah right.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Yeah, right.
No not really
They just knew that the russians dont take prisoners and risk to get killed so close to Victory
Es waren Menschen die um ihr Überleben kämpften!
Und wenn sie schon von Mördern sprechen, das waren jene die den Befehl gaben Deutsche Zivilisten zu 100000 mit Bomben-/Spreng-/ und sogar Napalm(!) zu ermorden!
Oder Deutsche Soldaten auf den Rheinwiesenlagern zu 100000 zu ermorden. Oder die bereits Gefangene Deutsche Soldaten mit Genickschuß zu 100000 ermordeten. Von den in die Millionen gehenden Vergewaltigungs(morden) nicht zu reden!
Also Vorsicht mit diesem Propagandamüll a'la Sefton Delmer, denn Typen wie er und Ilja Ehrenburg oder auch ein Luftmarshal Harris waren Kriegsverbrecher!
Möge Karma alle Lügner ereilen!
what is the point of making up your own history? the majority of the city defenders were kids, volkssturm and random servicemen converted into ground troops(why you see different uniforms on almost all soldiers, especially famous for this are luftwaffe)
almost every surviving army was pinned down in other battles which is why they couldnt support the city
Una pelicula que hay que ver si o si. Y mas de una vez. La mejor de largo sobre los ultimos dias.
¿Cómo se llama?
''Hilfeeeeeennnn !''
No subtitles? Lol
"Гитлеры приходят и уходят, а немецкий народ - остаётся."
И. Сталин
Those civilians sawing up a corpse at the beginning?
A dead horse.
Now I want to see the whole movie!
흡사 북한 인민군대에게 국군이 신나게 학살당하고 서울을 빼앗긴 상황이네요
Or it's more like DPRK soldiers were trapped in Seoul while they were encircled by the US Marine came from Incheon and UN from south
@ 4:55 Nichtraucher = non smoking car
Madness...
If WW2 proved something its that Germans are warriors
They were in combat.
I wouldn't classify warriors as an army known for feeding cripples, boys, and old men into the meet grinder. The meet grinder they created.
@@psilobomas if the russians were any fucking better ....😂 or the poles or the french with their pesky resistance
No they were barbarians who couldn't get a grasp of logic
Nazis proved their incompetence by destroying their own country.
🙏
Boremon got away
Такова была расплата за совершенные Германией фашистские преступления против Советского народа и других народов мира!
Not just soviets but polish, serbs, greeks and other nationalistic as well.
in 2024 sunjeew thug solgers 🔱 soldiers lost the war in kahathuduwa to jambugasmula war then his general in lost pow by alliance ⚔️ and slivaflash 🗡️ shit and some undawould seen by unp kalo jayasuria mp 🇱🇰 beet him off but his criminal patalia 🔱 was killed
Ivan's revenge.
اسم الفيلم
its not movie its real life
Downfall (English title) | Der Untergang (German title)
Why am I only seeing a woman wearing a stahlhelm now💀
Top ww2 movie which is on the upper spots
The extended version 170 mn
Сколько горя принесли фашисты.
One of the most accurate WWII movie
0:22 are they chopping body?!!
My guess is a dead horse.
Karma.
@dilltdog1158
Oh ja das Karma wird noch für viele kommen.
some good ass german stuff
Die Sturmtruppen haben die Mädchen gerettet
WHAT HAVE WE LEARN?
that Russians are STILL SOBs
It must be "What have we learned"
가흐
Germans, should have stayed at home!
Exodus.
Essential movie
This is so satisfying
Fegelein!!
ho shit man not cool
그리고 얼마안가 베를린과 베를린 인민들은 소련인민군에 의해 히틀러 정권으로부터 해방됩니다
It is not Hitler regime bro it is war
Turning Germans into 'Good Germans'
Socialism seems to always end this way...
Why are they running ? they wanted Russia right ?well they got Russia
They never wanted Russia...
They wanted to stop the bolsheviks
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVEthey wanted the Nazi ideology has always been to push East to Soviet Union the war declaration with France and Britain only postponed their mission
I remember this one. An angry guy revolted. Then they let him run for office. He told his supporters that they were "victims" and that he would "make them great again". This is how it ended.
sounds familiar.
hope you get better.
Better get back on your meds, lefty.
Martin Luther King?
бедные, бедные гитлеровцы... :)))
Coming soon to Kiev.
More like Moscow.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I doubt that, well, at least in the near term. The Russians just displayed a small demo of this in Bakhmut.
@@warnpassion They are literally using their soldiers as cannon fodders
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Irrespective of their losses and desperate tactics, they are certainly gaining ground.
... by downgrading Russia's status below China. Congrats Putin. China, your junior become your senior now.
Am I supposed to fill compassion for the Nazis here? Not Germans but Nazis. Because I gave not one shred of sympathy for any Nazi regardless of the pain there are in, like they had none for my Grandfather they wounded and almost killed. Yet have no hatred for the German people because my great great grandparents immigrated from Bavaria long before WWII,
I’m sorry to see that some lived. I was rooting for the Russians.
Ratzi's!
Where can I get a copy of the extended version?
It is in a German 3-disc DVD set.
@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I can’t find it here in the states
@@PeteinFlorida It was released in 2004. You're gonna have to find an used one.