is that a 6" hard sponge for double lined 5" pipe, and the second sponge 6" soft? have you tried the 6"x7" long orange sponge, kinda tapered on the front end and square on the back?
@@samstrucks Absolutely! 6” softies work great as well. Only thing I’ve noticed with the 6” round sponges is that occasionally the first ball back can obstruct the transition elbow enough to limit vacuum at the tip-elbow such that the second ball has a hard time coming back. This could be a function of us using the prime-port mounted pin-stopper which holds the ball in position at not the largest diameter portion of the transition elbow.
It appears you have something wrapped around your reducer coming off the Hopper. Is this to prevent accidents in case of a pipe blowout? I've fortunately never blown a deck reducer, but I'm sure it's a mess under high volume pumping.
It’s a protective wrap which we purchased from Seattle Tarp Company. Without it as well as a protective covering for the transition elbow, local ready mix providers have the right to refuse backing onto the pump. This was not ever such a big issue until the influx of generic brand parts and the resulting failure of brand new pipes/elbows/etc… There was a local pump which had the prime port blow right off of a brand new transition door. Almost killed a mixer driver.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 We have never had ready mix plants around this area ask us to install sleeves, but it wouldn't surprise if they start. It would definitely be a good idea and a lot safer in case there was an accident.
@@fronabargerconveyingpumping I do know that Alliance Concrete Pumps now carries a very similar product to what we have in the video. I would definitely get in touch with them. Their parts department is top notch.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I'll check into that. I just watched your video on priming the pump. I use Prime Tech primer from Las Vegas, NV. Works very well, was using Fritz Pak 2. I'm going to experiment with priming a bit slower and see what results I get, I usually primer with lower rpm's but a bit quicker on the volume. I like using rpm's to control how fast my tube switches for a smoother pump flow. Love the channel, keep up the good work. Been pumping for 17 years now and love to experiment, try new things and learn something new everyday.
If a guy didn’t have the prime port ball stopper, or prime port option on their transition door. Could you tie / connect both sponges together with enough space to trap X amount of water between sponges. Would that prevent risk of chopping the first hard sponge once pulled back to hopper door?
Absolutely!!!! We actually did it this way for years (two 5” medium balls on a rope) and it worked really well. We only moved away from it as more “chemical heavy” mix designs became common and we were finding that we just couldn’t sandwich enough water between the two sponges to get the pipes as clean as we like (wound up with an inch and a half of buildup in the boom elbows of our 58M the day after pouring vertical in Agillia mix the afternoon prior). We used medium sponges because the hard sponges are next to impossible to suck back at a slow/controlled pace. Perhaps having a hard sponge as the leading sponge (as you had mentioned) could have also alleviated the issue.
I do the same but I suck back with a ball first (that’s wet) as I suck back with the hose on then I fill the drop hose with water suck it back with the bigger sponges but I do the exact same technique with the flow control
The added benefits of running a 5” tip hose for sure. We’re most always tapering down to a 4” or smaller hose at the boom so we’ve got to remove all the associated hardware come cleanup time. Thank you for watching the channel.
Super easy. It’s all about keeping with your routine as much as possible. I’ve tried many different methods which promised to “save time/get the pipes even cleaner” but seemingly always revert back to sponge-water-sponge.
Common characteristic of chrome carbide lined elbows. These cracks appear far before the elbow has expired. Different story if the CCI liner begins "chunking out" however.
If I were u I would change the thumbnail and make a better thumbnail for this video, I'm sure it's still getting impressions, idk I just have noticed on my channel that the 9x16 thumbnails don't do as good as the 16x9 thumbnails. But just a piece of advice, do whatever u wish
Thank you brother. I’m going to look into exactly how to do this. I’m still super amateur with regards my knowledge of TH-cam as well as editing video.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I get it, try the free version of canva. Or just use your editor and take a screen shot. Anyways I got that video filmed that I'm going to feature your channel, it will be out this weekend
Hey Scott if you're going to do the rodeo you need to go to the gym and work out and stay focused I want I expect you to win that rodeo don't let him get
I have seen some videos like this in U.S.A and i think its waste of time. I work with concrete pump in Germany, i suck the first wet ball first after 5 seconds the second wet ball without water. Super easy, no water on the ground no beton. And I dont remove the hose. The pump is Liebherr 50XXT. I never had problem with the pipes, i have never seen concrete in the pipes. Hmm anthother country another types of work😉. Sorry for my english🫣. And the most important thing GOOD JOB GUYS🫡
I’m in agreement with you on this one. I don’t think the water placed between the sponges aids in cleaning the pipes so much as it just helps to flush the S-tube and material cylinders for an easier washout. In some cases I would also my argue that the additional water actually creates more fine slurry for the sponges to potentially skiff over and result in residue remaining in the lines. Thank you for watching and commenting. Always appreciated brother 🙏🙏🙏
Çok sıcak ülkelerde bahsettiğin olay sıkıntı yaratıyor, birde günlük beton dökümü olmadığı zamanlarda boru dirseklerinde, beton kurumu oluştuğunda ayrıca bir sıkıntı, en iyisi su ile birlikte topu çekmek, 1 kova su ve uç hortumu çıkarmadan topu çekiyorum, sonuç dirsek ve borularda beton artığı kalmıyor
Yeah, honestly for a 40 meter and smaller booms one sponge is sufficient for all but the creamiest of mixes (eg: bridge deck mix). With big-booms however, I am a huge proponent of sponge-water-sponge.
Beautiful!
is that a 6" hard sponge for double lined 5" pipe, and the second sponge 6" soft? have you tried the 6"x7" long orange sponge, kinda tapered on the front end and square on the back?
We did that for 61 m schwings ,4.6. To. 5 inch
I suck back 2 6” softies with about 3 gallons of water. Works good.
@@samstrucks Absolutely! 6” softies work great as well. Only thing I’ve noticed with the 6” round sponges is that occasionally the first ball back can obstruct the transition elbow enough to limit vacuum at the tip-elbow such that the second ball has a hard time coming back. This could be a function of us using the prime-port mounted pin-stopper which holds the ball in position at not the largest diameter portion of the transition elbow.
It appears you have something wrapped around your reducer coming off the Hopper. Is this to prevent accidents in case of a pipe blowout? I've fortunately never blown a deck reducer, but I'm sure it's a mess under high volume pumping.
It’s a protective wrap which we purchased from Seattle Tarp Company. Without it as well as a protective covering for the transition elbow, local ready mix providers have the right to refuse backing onto the pump. This was not ever such a big issue until the influx of generic brand parts and the resulting failure of brand new pipes/elbows/etc… There was a local pump which had the prime port blow right off of a brand new transition door. Almost killed a mixer driver.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 We have never had ready mix plants around this area ask us to install sleeves, but it wouldn't surprise if they start. It would definitely be a good idea and a lot safer in case there was an accident.
I just looked at their website and will be checking a few of their products out hopefully.
@@fronabargerconveyingpumping I do know that Alliance Concrete Pumps now carries a very similar product to what we have in the video. I would definitely get in touch with them. Their parts department is top notch.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I'll check into that. I just watched your video on priming the pump. I use Prime Tech primer from Las Vegas, NV. Works very well, was using Fritz Pak 2. I'm going to experiment with priming a bit slower and see what results I get, I usually primer with lower rpm's but a bit quicker on the volume. I like using rpm's to control how fast my tube switches for a smoother pump flow. Love the channel, keep up the good work. Been pumping for 17 years now and love to experiment, try new things and learn something new everyday.
In france is solution very good 👍❤
If a guy didn’t have the prime port ball stopper, or prime port option on their transition door. Could you tie / connect both sponges together with enough space to trap X amount of water between sponges. Would that prevent risk of chopping the first hard sponge once pulled back to hopper door?
Absolutely!!!! We actually did it this way for years (two 5” medium balls on a rope) and it worked really well. We only moved away from it as more “chemical heavy” mix designs became common and we were finding that we just couldn’t sandwich enough water between the two sponges to get the pipes as clean as we like (wound up with an inch and a half of buildup in the boom elbows of our 58M the day after pouring vertical in Agillia mix the afternoon prior). We used medium sponges because the hard sponges are next to impossible to suck back at a slow/controlled pace. Perhaps having a hard sponge as the leading sponge (as you had mentioned) could have also alleviated the issue.
nice work 👍
I do the same but I suck back with a ball first (that’s wet) as I suck back with the hose on then I fill the drop hose with water suck it back with the bigger sponges but I do the exact same technique with the flow control
The added benefits of running a 5” tip hose for sure. We’re most always tapering down to a 4” or smaller hose at the boom so we’ve got to remove all the associated hardware come cleanup time. Thank you for watching the channel.
sounds kinda......
nice cleaning . I didn't think it would be this easy. maybe not :)
Super easy. It’s all about keeping with your routine as much as possible. I’ve tried many different methods which promised to “save time/get the pipes even cleaner” but seemingly always revert back to sponge-water-sponge.
Why are you taking off the hose? I wash with two balls without water, and at the end of liters of 30 water and a large cylindrical sponge
We taper down to 4” hose or smaller (3” on this job specifically). 5” hose we use maybe only 2-3 times per year.
So to answer your question: we do not suck sponges back through 4” or smaller tip-hoses as it results in buildup in the boom pipes/elbows.
Change your elbow before that crack becomes a bigger issue..
Common characteristic of chrome carbide lined elbows. These cracks appear far before the elbow has expired. Different story if the CCI liner begins "chunking out" however.
This is normal cracking bud
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If I were u I would change the thumbnail and make a better thumbnail for this video, I'm sure it's still getting impressions, idk I just have noticed on my channel that the 9x16 thumbnails don't do as good as the 16x9 thumbnails. But just a piece of advice, do whatever u wish
Thank you brother. I’m going to look into exactly how to do this. I’m still super amateur with regards my knowledge of TH-cam as well as editing video.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I get it, try the free version of canva. Or just use your editor and take a screen shot. Anyways I got that video filmed that I'm going to feature your channel, it will be out this weekend
@@GRUBB-MUDD that’s wicked man!!!! I can’t wait to check it out!!! Thank you so much 🙏
Interesting
Hey Scott if you're going to do the rodeo you need to go to the gym and work out and stay focused I want I expect you to win that rodeo don't let him get
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I have seen some videos like this in U.S.A and i think its waste of time. I work with concrete pump in Germany, i suck the first wet ball first after 5 seconds the second wet ball without water. Super easy, no water on the ground no beton. And I dont remove the hose. The pump is Liebherr 50XXT. I never had problem with the pipes, i have never seen concrete in the pipes. Hmm anthother country another types of work😉. Sorry for my english🫣. And the most important thing GOOD JOB GUYS🫡
I’m in agreement with you on this one. I don’t think the water placed between the sponges aids in cleaning the pipes so much as it just helps to flush the S-tube and material cylinders for an easier washout. In some cases I would also my argue that the additional water actually creates more fine slurry for the sponges to potentially skiff over and result in residue remaining in the lines.
Thank you for watching and commenting. Always appreciated brother 🙏🙏🙏
Çok sıcak ülkelerde bahsettiğin olay sıkıntı yaratıyor, birde günlük beton dökümü olmadığı zamanlarda boru dirseklerinde, beton kurumu oluştuğunda ayrıca bir sıkıntı, en iyisi su ile birlikte topu çekmek, 1 kova su ve uç hortumu çıkarmadan topu çekiyorum, sonuç dirsek ve borularda beton artığı kalmıyor
Decent jimmy. I just suck one ball back with water and call it good. Works for me but get how 2 is best.
Yeah, honestly for a 40 meter and smaller booms one sponge is sufficient for all but the creamiest of mixes (eg: bridge deck mix). With big-booms however, I am a huge proponent of sponge-water-sponge.
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@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I think he meant the other guy haha