"Can foreigners attend MPK training" It would seem by looking at the law that yes it is possible. Some courses have a requirement of older than 18 and finnish citizen, of completion of conscription. Im sure if you are intrested in attending and making content, something can be arranged. I myself am a instructor for mortars, I would be happy to have you visit.
These dogs that we had in the Finnish Border Guards Jaegers Sissi Unit, was impossible to hide from. I can still remember when we where chased by these dog units after we had made an attack and they where to catch us and destroy us. We took a giant loop around some mountain (not tall mountain) and we thought of everything, meaning the wind, our sentences and that we had to be very comoflaged and hidden, before our ambush was to be started. These dogs "felt us" from far away, and was not even close to walk into our ambush that we had prepared for them. These dogs was so cool when they walked in front of a group and it was walking and about every 5 to 10 steps it would look back to the one in charge of the dog for any new commands. These commands was always made entirely by hand and arm signs 😮. We had to swim over a lake and a couple of water streams to be able get rid of them, in the end. I just loved these German Shepherd 😢
Back in mid 80’s serving my consription in FBG unit I can confirm the difficulty of evading dog patrols that are coming after you. To ambush or evade the dog patrol was extremely difficult and to be succesful demanded certain weather conditions (preferably extreme) and the stars to be in the right place. Did I mention the skill and ability of running silently but very quickly away substantial distances (so that they thought we were rabbits ;) )? Human error (the dog handler) was probably the weakest link as if the handler didn’t read the dog correctly for some reason then you might have a chance. Our unit’s dogs were extremely reliable and absolutely ❤ in our service. Back then we helped one of the conscript handlers finishing his service to petition for his dog that was about to be”retired” to be handed over to him for the rest of its natural days. We helped him with his letter to FBG HQ and they gave him the dog. As they left together, we who were continuing our service saluted them in formation in the yard.
@@amanhasnoname3462 The only way to get a dog off your scent is to make a big circle so you are now following the dog. That's what wild rabbits do. Swimming across a lake works too.
@@martimasters7704 Making a big circle works occasionally but if the wind blows even slightly from your back when you are behind them or from wrong side when you are on either side of the dog patrol, then you are very quickly on the run again and in very disadvantageous position. The dog patrol may also use various tricks to counter the circling maneuver. Evade, make distance, make false and overlapping tracks using the terrain to your advantage if you have enough lead on them and by doing this in repetition, exhaust the followers. Endurance is the key: ”never give up, never surrender”. Crossing water may work too but you have to be aware of how much lead you have and what is your speed when crossing the water. The size and shape (and depth) of the water element is crucial, lake, river, pond, ditch etc.
Yup, he made the situation clear to the other party in no-uncertain terms, zero bullshit, etc. Guys like that are great to have on our side, but are total menaces for the opfor. Kind of reminds me of my basic training instructor/squad leader, a certain Mr. Hypén (KarPr, SissiK, II/94). Really awesome fellow when things went ”according to expectations” but if you did done stupid… there was feedback, immediate and decisive. You didn’t want to repeat a mistake, or do stupid. 😅
That was a civilian SAR (Search and Rescue) team, so the dog hasn't (most likely) been trained to bite. Which is good, because you wouldn't want to use a dog that might bite during training like this as they would need to have sleeves and knowledge how to handle an attack from a dog, if the dog was allowed off leash without a muzzle.
Military police was in there. In Finland we are trainet in urban combat tactics and counter specops operators. Training in the woods is normal. We dont sit at the base guarding nothing
@@Hazzelnot94 Yeah but on the other hand many people also have cottages and were involved in "boyscouts" type of things when they were kids etc. I still most of Finns over the age of 15 know how to that
@@Hazzelnot94majoroty of the people who live in the city still know how to setup a fire even if it is just to fry some sausages and know which mushrooms and berries you can eat. and every other basic survival skill beyond that is taught in the army anyway.
@@Hazzelnot94Well, men in cities have to do their mandatory military service too, where you will learn basic survival skills. Also most of our cities, outside of the city center, would be considered rural anywhere else, we just dont realise it. Many finns describe Helsinki as concrete hell, but people from other countries describe it as an extremely green and quiet city.
@@FinnishNationalist123 Right, we do military service for 6-12 months, after that for most people the only fire they will light is a in a grill. We have to rid ourselves of this fantasy that we are a forest people who know how to live off the land. That's just some romantisiced bollocks of the Finnish spirit. The sooner we understand that, the sooner we can be honest and improve on those skills. Almost 90% of Finns live in urban areas, that's a fact whichever way you spin it.
One way to try to deal with dog is backtrack then take different direction.. dog might follow route you took twice and end of rail lose you.. but it also could choose route you took at last.. so you would need to make this quite often and of course slow you down as need to backtrack occasionally.
5:30 it's been a long time since I've been in the army and I never got this type of training but I'd guess the SERE acronym might be used even though in Finnish the words are different. I remember that we were taught some basic CBRN stuff and that acronym was used, while with Finnish words the acronym would be different.
Regarding the battle buddy, It's not exactly that but pretty much the same, (Taistelijapari) direct translation would be fighter partner or fighter pair or combat partner or something to that effect. taistelija is fighter and pari means pair, or couple or partner.
SERE are most likely included(in some form and name) in training of Finnish conscripts. You also seen parts of how the Swedes do it in Jägarsoldat, during "never give up" test. Every soldier might get taken prisoner, it's sound wierd that the US don't include it in basic.
Finnish defence doctrine is attached on the terrain and weather conditions we have. We are a small and relatevily poor country. We must focus our doings
Poor baby. Training has been so watered down that conscripts can't even go outside for regular training exercises when the temperature falls below a certain amount.
@@martimasters7704 As a fighting engineer once i was 14 days in forest, sleep 1-5h/day. Started to see (you) enemies everywhere, before passing out. And it was -20'C
So you know that Swedish Försvarsmakten has released 6 information videos about Sweden's situation in the Baltic sea and info. for the public . Name is Krig i vår tid - War in our time with English text .
I watched a video of garand thumb doing sere, basicly he stopped in one place and left lots of trails so dog would get confused. Also he went little way upriver on a river, tho said its worst place to be when u wanna avoid ppl (water sources).
Huh, I was taught SERE in the FDF over a decade ago but that, to my recollection, wasn't specifically called SERE. Maybe the point here is that it's NATO-standardized SERE training?
Hey. I’m watching a video on TH-cam about troops in Afghanistan. 6 parts to it. They are showing Canadians working the U.S. on this episode. Link below. th-cam.com/video/N4WPtBOFVAs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ri-70TNawjeC6GhZ
Yeah, we had this kind of training as well in the Border Guards Sissi Jaegers Unit as well, back in the late 80:s and early 90:s when I was part of the Border Guard Jaegers Sissi Unit. This will be thought again during my time in the reserves, just like for these guys. 💪💪💪💪💪🇫🇮💪🙏
10:40 I believe those are airsoft guns. Much less hassle, no need to comply with firearms laws in carrying, transporting and storage. This is not a firing exercise, after all, so it makes sense. Part of the exercise area may be privately owned land, no need for permission for airsoft guns.
Your Russian Video reactions are very wrong, Ukraine has been losing MORE that a 10:1 ratio and they're being Grinded to the core, U.S. Armed Forces would not do better, you guys have NEVER faced a well armed/trained LARGE Military.
Thanks for the reaction bro! 💪 It was a dope exercise to follow. We got more stuff coming up!
Of course, it was dope to check out! Can't wait to see whatcha got!
Pointing with weapon barrel and doing a pumping motion is the classic Finnish army silent signal for "enemy in that direction". It's quite intuitive.
Same in Sweden
Thought that's universal
"Can foreigners attend MPK training"
It would seem by looking at the law that yes it is possible. Some courses have a requirement of older than 18 and finnish citizen, of completion of conscription.
Im sure if you are intrested in attending and making content, something can be arranged. I myself am a instructor for mortars, I would be happy to have you visit.
These dogs that we had in the Finnish Border Guards Jaegers Sissi Unit, was impossible to hide from.
I can still remember when we where chased by these dog units after we had made an attack and they where to catch us and destroy us.
We took a giant loop around some mountain (not tall mountain) and we thought of everything, meaning the wind, our sentences and that we had to be very comoflaged and hidden, before our ambush was to be started.
These dogs "felt us" from far away, and was not even close to walk into our ambush that we had prepared for them.
These dogs was so cool when they walked in front of a group and it was walking and about every 5 to 10 steps it would look back to the one in charge of the dog for any new commands.
These commands was always made entirely by hand and arm signs 😮.
We had to swim over a lake and a couple of water streams to be able get rid of them, in the end.
I just loved these German Shepherd 😢
Back in mid 80’s serving my consription in FBG unit I can confirm the difficulty of evading dog patrols that are coming after you.
To ambush or evade the dog patrol was extremely difficult and to be succesful demanded certain weather conditions (preferably extreme) and the stars to be in the right place. Did I mention the skill and ability of running silently but very quickly away substantial distances (so that they thought we were rabbits ;) )?
Human error (the dog handler) was probably the weakest link as if the handler didn’t read the dog correctly for some reason then you might have a chance.
Our unit’s dogs were extremely reliable and absolutely ❤ in our service. Back then we helped one of the conscript handlers finishing his service to petition for his dog that was about to be”retired” to be handed over to him for the rest of its natural days. We helped him with his letter to FBG HQ and they gave him the dog. As they left together, we who were continuing our service saluted them in formation in the yard.
@@amanhasnoname3462 The only way to get a dog off your scent is to make a big circle so you are now following the dog. That's what wild rabbits do. Swimming across a lake works too.
@@martimasters7704 Making a big circle works occasionally but if the wind blows even slightly from your back when you are behind them or from wrong side when you are on either side of the dog patrol, then you are very quickly on the run again and in very disadvantageous position. The dog patrol may also use various tricks to counter the circling maneuver.
Evade, make distance, make false and overlapping tracks using the terrain to your advantage if you have enough lead on them and by doing this in repetition, exhaust the followers. Endurance is the key: ”never give up, never surrender”.
Crossing water may work too but you have to be aware of how much lead you have and what is your speed when crossing the water. The size and shape (and depth) of the water element is crucial, lake, river, pond, ditch etc.
Just poison the canine..mää myrkytin sen 😢
The pointing with the weapon is to tell others without words that you see the enemy in that direction.
"when the snow starts speaking finish. Run"
Sorry, skiing is the only option. No skis? Deep sleep
@@Mideone pffft. snow shoes also work if you need to creep instead of cover a lot of groud in a hurry.
9:24 "The thing is Mika, that if you dont come the f out of there, that means you are quitting the course."
Yup, he made the situation clear to the other party in no-uncertain terms, zero bullshit, etc. Guys like that are great to have on our side, but are total menaces for the opfor.
Kind of reminds me of my basic training instructor/squad leader, a certain Mr. Hypén (KarPr, SissiK, II/94). Really awesome fellow when things went ”according to expectations” but if you did done stupid… there was feedback, immediate and decisive. You didn’t want to repeat a mistake, or do stupid. 😅
He said it the other way around actually. "Se on semmonen homma mika, että nyt tulet vittuun sieltä, niin sinä lopetat kurssin kesken."
@@leksasdf Really? I'm hearing Se on semmoinen homma Mika että nyt jos et tule vittuun sieltä, niin sinä lopetat kurssin kesken.
@@manalainen Hypén mainittu 😁 Siellähän tuo hääräili vielä 2015.
Jos on kylmä niin vaihda sukat ja juo vettä
That was a civilian SAR (Search and Rescue) team, so the dog hasn't (most likely) been trained to bite. Which is good, because you wouldn't want to use a dog that might bite during training like this as they would need to have sleeves and knowledge how to handle an attack from a dog, if the dog was allowed off leash without a muzzle.
Good video .
Regards from Sweden .
Military police was in there. In Finland we are trainet in urban combat tactics and counter specops operators. Training in the woods is normal. We dont sit at the base guarding nothing
Trying to outrun a dog in a forest, nightmare fuel
Almost all the Finns know how to make fire and how to stay alive in the woods at least 24h per now and not to panic. Earlier SERE was Sissi training.
That's a bit of a stretch. Most Finns live in cities and we're just as if not even more urbanised than the rest of Europe.
@@Hazzelnot94 Yeah but on the other hand many people also have cottages and were involved in "boyscouts" type of things when they were kids etc. I still most of Finns over the age of 15 know how to that
@@Hazzelnot94majoroty of the people who live in the city still know how to setup a fire even if it is just to fry some sausages and know which mushrooms and berries you can eat. and every other basic survival skill beyond that is taught in the army anyway.
@@Hazzelnot94Well, men in cities have to do their mandatory military service too, where you will learn basic survival skills. Also most of our cities, outside of the city center, would be considered rural anywhere else, we just dont realise it. Many finns describe Helsinki as concrete hell, but people from other countries describe it as an extremely green and quiet city.
@@FinnishNationalist123 Right, we do military service for 6-12 months, after that for most people the only fire they will light is a in a grill. We have to rid ourselves of this fantasy that we are a forest people who know how to live off the land. That's just some romantisiced bollocks of the Finnish spirit. The sooner we understand that, the sooner we can be honest and improve on those skills. Almost 90% of Finns live in urban areas, that's a fact whichever way you spin it.
In Sissi training there was also some nasty things included.
That patch is Sissi and so called ranger unit.
Im trained in Sissi komppania 2/95 place called Ylämylly Paloaukea where Unknown Soldier starts.
One way to try to deal with dog is backtrack then take different direction.. dog might follow route you took twice and end of rail lose you.. but it also could choose route you took at last.. so you would need to make this quite often and of course slow you down as need to backtrack occasionally.
9:25 "if you dont come right F now from there, you will feill the class"
5:30 it's been a long time since I've been in the army and I never got this type of training but I'd guess the SERE acronym might be used even though in Finnish the words are different. I remember that we were taught some basic CBRN stuff and that acronym was used, while with Finnish words the acronym would be different.
I took part in a SERE training 9 years ago, though it was very different than in the video
Regarding the battle buddy, It's not exactly that but pretty much the same, (Taistelijapari) direct translation would be fighter partner or fighter pair or combat partner or something to that effect. taistelija is fighter and pari means pair, or couple or partner.
Nice! New video
9:24 Mika "went native" and doesn't want to return to civilization. :)
Yeah :D Translated: "Matter of fact Mika, you will get the fuck out of there and you are quitting the course."😂
SERE are most likely included(in some form and name) in training of Finnish conscripts. You also seen parts of how the Swedes do it in Jägarsoldat, during "never give up" test. Every soldier might get taken prisoner, it's sound wierd that the US don't include it in basic.
Finland Rules! We are ready.
I like cultures where they do things differently very unique
Finnish defence doctrine is attached on the terrain and weather conditions we have. We are a small and relatevily poor country. We must focus our doings
When I was a kid, pointing n shaking the weapon was actual silenced firing and recoil 😂😂
Old news maybe, but every reservist (900 000 strong) in Finland has gone through basics of this. Without the dogs :D
I was in training a year ago, where I got 30 minutes of sleep in a 41 hour period. It was brutal.
Poor baby. Training has been so watered down that conscripts can't even go outside for regular training exercises when the temperature falls below a certain amount.
@@martimasters7704 As a fighting engineer once i was 14 days in forest, sleep 1-5h/day. Started to see (you) enemies everywhere, before passing out. And it was -20'C
DUDE as many of us said already PLEASE react to the ''The Chosen Company. Violence of Action''
It'll be up in a week or two!
So you know that Swedish Försvarsmakten has released 6 information videos about Sweden's situation in the Baltic sea and info. for the public .
Name is Krig i vår tid - War in our time with English text .
Finland
I watched a video of garand thumb doing sere, basicly he stopped in one place and left lots of trails so dog would get confused. Also he went little way upriver on a river, tho said its worst place to be when u wanna avoid ppl (water sources).
Also was said dogs are almost impossible to run from
I am a trainer and a cource leader for some MP cources. Come and take them. A lot of quality training.
you learn from your mistakes. In war you don't.....
Aaah, that badge was something we had in the Border Guards Sissi Jaegers Unit.
Its called the "Sissi havu" insignia
Are you doing your training in Hawaii? Nice shirt man. It like, POPS. 👍
Huh, I was taught SERE in the FDF over a decade ago but that, to my recollection, wasn't specifically called SERE. Maybe the point here is that it's NATO-standardized SERE training?
Exactly!
Pretty chill training. Guys not going too hard on it but its a nice summer camp. :)
It's based on NATO standards :)
It's for reservist's, that's why.
You usually outrun dogs?
@@AnanusBananus I know, thats why I said its nice training for them. Chill and relaxed. I would love to be doing that.
can you react to The Chosen Company in Ukraine? would love to see what you think of it
Hey. I’m watching a video on TH-cam about troops in Afghanistan. 6 parts to it. They are showing Canadians working the U.S. on this episode. Link below.
th-cam.com/video/N4WPtBOFVAs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ri-70TNawjeC6GhZ
evading a dog? Think fast and run much faster. When dog finds a track it's not 'if she finds you' it's 'when'.
Watch some chosen company videos
Oorah
Yeah, we had this kind of training as well in the Border Guards Sissi Jaegers Unit as well, back in the late 80:s and early 90:s when I was part of the Border Guard Jaegers Sissi Unit.
This will be thought again during my time in the reserves, just like for these guys.
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Sir can you say CHAMA
10:40 I believe those are airsoft guns. Much less hassle, no need to comply with firearms laws in carrying, transporting and storage. This is not a firing exercise, after all, so it makes sense. Part of the exercise area may be privately owned land, no need for permission for airsoft guns.
nah, those looked like RK 95 with the blank stopper (dunno wtf it is in English, the yellow one). They were yelling the classic "laukaus, laukaus"...
Finland and USA, we are ONE!
We are not wth
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Your Russian Video reactions are very wrong, Ukraine has been losing MORE that a 10:1 ratio and they're being Grinded to the core, U.S. Armed Forces would not do better, you guys have NEVER faced a well armed/trained LARGE Military.
Then you woke up and went to your outhouse to make a poo-tin.
@miikaharkonen663
🤣🤣🤣 YOUR 100% WRONG
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LoL. Countries like Poland or Finland could take out Russia by their own...
@makkerix
Georgia thought the same thing back in 2008🤣🤣🤣
Alright Craig
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The closing thought was good: "think less the gear and more sweaty things" 🥸