They dont suck. They are just different. Youll never make an ICE car have the low end of an electric, and an electric will never give you that mean v8 growl.
@@paudan1284i wouldn't say never. The next gen batteries are literally coming to market in the next 3 years, and charging circuitry is limited by batteries, not power flow. In 10 years, which is literally nothing in terms of technology advancement in the past, we will likely have cars that can charge in 3-5 minutes with a 700+ mile range, and a 0-60 in under 2 seconds. We already have major car companies (toyota) annoucing 745 mile ranges with 10 minutes to 80% charge times on vehicles they plan to bring to market in 2027. So....
@@paudan1284 nobody cares EV range after it is over 1000 km . In China 500 km is already so much that nobody cares. 1200 km ranges can be expected at 2030
@@iso-c ICE enthusiasts I know say that it is important for them to be able to drive like a 1000km continuously. I think that is mostly a fake requirement because in reality they will not drive more than three hours before needing a break anyway. Currently I think the main reason for 1000km range is that during major holidays you will have problems with the charging infrastructure if everyone would drive electric.
Heres your engagement for the algorithm.... they are the perfect daily for people on a budget (imagine a big golf cart you take to work) . The part that sucks is they are not budget people friendly. They focus too much on luxury and less on utility. They could easily limit power to increase battery longevity and make them simpler to reduce cost. But the companies that own them are greedy and don't care about that.
It's not like engines are perfect, companies have been making them for over a hundred years and they still have timing gear problems and other "known issues" that shouldn't exist any more. The Ford 3 valve with the oil blockages, things like that. For some people electric is ideal, for others it's useless.
I'm all for new hybrids. Look at the toyota I-force. Absolutely stupid power numbers for a 4 cylinder, but gets near prius levels of economy. The future is now old man
EVs and v6 and v8s have their own place. the sound of a supercharged V8 gets me wood, but you fork over your wallet at the gas station more frequently than a EV needs to stop to charge. they each have their own place. Unless we are talking about the mustang EV. That thing is a abomination.
They suck, because they build them with low battery range. If they would use different batteries that last longer, and have shorter recharging times, then yes, EVs would be better.
they have decent range and batteries last a reasonable amount of time. Increased capacity, Longer cycle , quicker recharge time and cost are all in competition with each other. How much range do you need? base model teslas will drive 3 hours on the freeway before needing to be charged, another brand has a EV with twice that range.
Biggest issue with EVs right now is battery tech is still not where it needs to be. An ICE vehicle will go the same mileage for over 10yrs with basic maintenance. EVs however have battery degradation and that range slowly lowers. Temperature, weather, driving style, and charging routines all have an effect. Diesel electric however gives you that raw electric power while still maintaining the long range. Your vehicle also becomes more efficient as you run a generator at its optimum RPM. The future for cars is nuclear far in the future. But I'm still looking forward to hydrogen.
I disagree. and in What context. Like yes if we are talking extreme long range Electric will need to take lounger due to needing to charge. but just how often are you travelling from Montreal to Toronto (550 KM)?. Chances are your average trip is 25-50 KM round trip. and sometimes you got 250 KM. So in terms of not being there since your long range trips are maybe 1-2 per years electric car's are more then suited to modern life. Like how often does the average Canadian/American go cross country or even more then 1-3 counties over? Like yes if all you focus on is the range there not as good, but if you think for the average person who can do at home charging there better. (note this is only the case if you can charge at home)
I’m starting to lean towards diesel electric hybrid hopefully Edison motor gets that retro fit kit going and it’s within 5-10k the price of a used truck cause my 400k mile 07 tundra could use an upgrade
Corrected. You’re welcome. 53 yo car person but I love electric cars too. They’re politicised constantly and it’s putting people off these reliable easy and cheap to run cars. Charging infrastructure needs improved
I love electric cars. Unlike most posers, I actually care about accelerating fast. It’s what makes cars fun for me. It used to be “electric cars are slow, they’ll never compete with muh 350hp mustang!” And now that electric cars are fast it’s “it was never about speed, it’s about the experience” Sure bud, cope. I’d rather drive a 70 camero with an electric motor swap that does 0-60 in the 2’s than drive the same 70 camera with a 350 Chevy POS that makes maybe 400hp and 0-60 in 5-6 seconds. Admit it, all the car guys that like ICE cars more than electric never cared about speed, they cared about being obnoxiously loud under the pretense “but it had to be to be fast!”
The problem will always be that electric cars won’t have second hand value and so will never dominate the automotive landscape, they will have their place somewhere but eventually something else with less issues will win the day. I’m gonna guess synthetic or hydrogen but it won’t be electric purely because of the issues with mining the exotic materials and the child labour problems in Africa🤷♂️
As a daily? ICE cars don't even come close. 99 percent of drivers don't give a shit what they're driving and electric is just so much better at almost everything. Some people having a shed full of of ICE cars is perfectly fine. Tinker with them, drive them on the weekend, race, whatever. But boring daily miles are perfect for electric.
Well, the propulsion is not the issue, so no, lol. Any successful system could be applied to anything, really, as long as it has whatever sensors and cameras are required. Self-driving technology is like 95 percent there, but it turns out that the last 5 percent is a mother trucker. There are so many non-standard scenarios encountered in the real world that it is proving difficult to account for them all through training data alone. I don't think we will see a fully developed product until they have a system that can truly see something it has never seen before and still make the correct decision. This is in the works but likely still a ways off.
its not ideal putting the batteries in the trunk or in the engine compartment is not the safest thing in the world since they are basically guaranteed to be damaged in a bad collision and catch fire it can also interfere with the original crumple zone design of the car unless you are talking more like classic cars then ur just screwed anyways.
Nope Electric motors are beasts. Going all electric isn’t the solution in my opinion. But there is no denying the role electric motors will play in the future. We need both gas and electric motors to get to the next generation of drive trains
They dont suck. They are just different. Youll never make an ICE car have the low end of an electric, and an electric will never give you that mean v8 growl.
And you’ll never have the range refresh of an ICE in a pure EV. Everything has its place
Real shit right here @@paudan1284
@@paudan1284i wouldn't say never.
The next gen batteries are literally coming to market in the next 3 years, and charging circuitry is limited by batteries, not power flow.
In 10 years, which is literally nothing in terms of technology advancement in the past, we will likely have cars that can charge in 3-5 minutes with a 700+ mile range, and a 0-60 in under 2 seconds.
We already have major car companies (toyota) annoucing 745 mile ranges with 10 minutes to 80% charge times on vehicles they plan to bring to market in 2027.
So....
@@paudan1284 nobody cares EV range after it is over 1000 km . In China 500 km is already so much that nobody cares. 1200 km ranges can be expected at 2030
@@iso-c ICE enthusiasts I know say that it is important for them to be able to drive like a 1000km continuously. I think that is mostly a fake requirement because in reality they will not drive more than three hours before needing a break anyway. Currently I think the main reason for 1000km range is that during major holidays you will have problems with the charging infrastructure if everyone would drive electric.
Heres your engagement for the algorithm.... they are the perfect daily for people on a budget (imagine a big golf cart you take to work) . The part that sucks is they are not budget people friendly. They focus too much on luxury and less on utility. They could easily limit power to increase battery longevity and make them simpler to reduce cost. But the companies that own them are greedy and don't care about that.
It's not like engines are perfect, companies have been making them for over a hundred years and they still have timing gear problems and other "known issues" that shouldn't exist any more. The Ford 3 valve with the oil blockages, things like that.
For some people electric is ideal, for others it's useless.
I'm all for new hybrids. Look at the toyota I-force. Absolutely stupid power numbers for a 4 cylinder, but gets near prius levels of economy. The future is now old man
EVs and v6 and v8s have their own place. the sound of a supercharged V8 gets me wood, but you fork over your wallet at the gas station more frequently than a EV needs to stop to charge. they each have their own place.
Unless we are talking about the mustang EV. That thing is a abomination.
They suck, because they build them with low battery range. If they would use different batteries that last longer, and have shorter recharging times, then yes, EVs would be better.
they have decent range and batteries last a reasonable amount of time.
Increased capacity, Longer cycle , quicker recharge time and cost are all in competition with each other.
How much range do you need? base model teslas will drive 3 hours on the freeway before needing to be charged, another brand has a EV with twice that range.
Biggest issue with EVs right now is battery tech is still not where it needs to be. An ICE vehicle will go the same mileage for over 10yrs with basic maintenance. EVs however have battery degradation and that range slowly lowers. Temperature, weather, driving style, and charging routines all have an effect.
Diesel electric however gives you that raw electric power while still maintaining the long range. Your vehicle also becomes more efficient as you run a generator at its optimum RPM. The future for cars is nuclear far in the future. But I'm still looking forward to hydrogen.
the cars are allright it's the drivers that suck
Electric car batteries suck. The technology currently isn’t sufficient. It’s been the same problem since the first electric car, over 100 years ago.
I disagree. and in What context. Like yes if we are talking extreme long range Electric will need to take lounger due to needing to charge. but just how often are you travelling from Montreal to Toronto (550 KM)?. Chances are your average trip is 25-50 KM round trip. and sometimes you got 250 KM.
So in terms of not being there since your long range trips are maybe 1-2 per years electric car's are more then suited to modern life.
Like how often does the average Canadian/American go cross country or even more then 1-3 counties over?
Like yes if all you focus on is the range there not as good, but if you think for the average person who can do at home charging there better. (note this is only the case if you can charge at home)
That’s why us enthusiasts must unite! 👊🏻
I’m starting to lean towards diesel electric hybrid hopefully Edison motor gets that retro fit kit going and it’s within 5-10k the price of a used truck cause my 400k mile 07 tundra could use an upgrade
Corrected. You’re welcome. 53 yo car person but I love electric cars too. They’re politicised constantly and it’s putting people off these reliable easy and cheap to run cars. Charging infrastructure needs improved
Electric cars have serious get up and go... but everything else sucks.
I love electric cars. Unlike most posers, I actually care about accelerating fast. It’s what makes cars fun for me. It used to be “electric cars are slow, they’ll never compete with muh 350hp mustang!” And now that electric cars are fast it’s “it was never about speed, it’s about the experience”
Sure bud, cope. I’d rather drive a 70 camero with an electric motor swap that does 0-60 in the 2’s than drive the same 70 camera with a 350 Chevy POS that makes maybe 400hp and 0-60 in 5-6 seconds.
Admit it, all the car guys that like ICE cars more than electric never cared about speed, they cared about being obnoxiously loud under the pretense “but it had to be to be fast!”
The problem will always be that electric cars won’t have second hand value and so will never dominate the automotive landscape, they will have their place somewhere but eventually something else with less issues will win the day. I’m gonna guess synthetic or hydrogen but it won’t be electric purely because of the issues with mining the exotic materials and the child labour problems in Africa🤷♂️
Electrical is fine. Cars that are always connected to the internet suck
I actually like my car messaging me that it managed to reach the set temperature just before my shift ends.
@@jwstolk well just remember that minor convenience when you see "executing order 66" flash on the screen lol
Mg sells a 450 horsepower EV for $45.000.
There is no gas car that powerful and that cheap and never will be.
As a daily? ICE cars don't even come close. 99 percent of drivers don't give a shit what they're driving and electric is just so much better at almost everything.
Some people having a shed full of of ICE cars is perfectly fine. Tinker with them, drive them on the weekend, race, whatever. But boring daily miles are perfect for electric.
Electric is actually pretty sweet. Lots of pros over gasoline. We still have a ways go though. They are in their infancy compared to gas cars.
All I can say is electric cars have a long way to go. Sure they are out there, but the infrastructure is not there yet. Give me Diesel for now.
Electric cars have their place.
I'm not going to say something sucks if I have never driven or used it.
bikers agree to ;-)
I just want a self driving car... Can we get a good gas one ?
Well, the propulsion is not the issue, so no, lol. Any successful system could be applied to anything, really, as long as it has whatever sensors and cameras are required. Self-driving technology is like 95 percent there, but it turns out that the last 5 percent is a mother trucker. There are so many non-standard scenarios encountered in the real world that it is proving difficult to account for them all through training data alone. I don't think we will see a fully developed product until they have a system that can truly see something it has never seen before and still make the correct decision. This is in the works but likely still a ways off.
if you drive one you would think other wise. I did after I tried a tesla, and I own a 400hp V8
Ev bringing ice heads together
Hear me out.
Converting old cars, to electric.
its not ideal putting the batteries in the trunk or in the engine compartment is not the safest thing in the world since they are basically guaranteed to be damaged in a bad collision and catch fire it can also interfere with the original crumple zone design of the car unless you are talking more like classic cars then ur just screwed anyways.
One thing we can always count on is chamge😂
Nope
Electric motors are beasts.
Going all electric isn’t the solution in my opinion. But there is no denying the role electric motors will play in the future.
We need both gas and electric motors to get to the next generation of drive trains
I hope you like walking
YES!!!
I heard Kia was making an electric car with a drift setting but I never heard about it again though
Correction: You are wrong.
Electric will not take off….. maybe eventually hydrogen will take off
Who wants to pay $20,000 for a battery when the car needs it. Dumb
I am pretty sure that this is trolling video.
Cars suck.
Couldn’t agree more
Wrong! I own 1967 ford mustang and a Tesla both are fun!
tech has to mature somehow.
At this time EVs are the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
YES!!!!!
Earned my subscription
wait theres a car company called poojoe????
Peugeot, Its French. But its suppossed to be more Pur Zhoh
Poo joe? 😆
Puzhou?
You going to lose your job? Lol who cares big fella!