Is Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC The BEST Version of Windows?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Is Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC The BEST Version of Windows?
In this video, I'll be taking a look at Windows 11 24H2 LTSC to see if it's the best version of Windows 11. If you've ever been wondering about the Enterprise IoT LTSC versions of Windows 10 and Windows 11 and how they're different compared to the normal Home or Pro versions, this video will be useful to you as I take you through a discussion on that and more.
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#windows1124h2ltsc #ltsc #24h2ltsc
If microsoft gave us this instead of the crap that is windows 11 standard, less people would be pissed at them.
You can validate the ISOs you download by comparing the SHA256 hashes with Microsoft's official ones.
Then the question becomes: Can you obtain those hashes from any authentic sources? Are those hashes available publicly on any official Microsoft websites?
@@tamask You can obtain the hash from a pdf provided first hand by microsoft, just search their windows 11 ltsc page a little.
May I ask why windows 11 IoT LTSC and not the windows 10 version? I'm still not seeing a reason to upgrade
no. the honor of best version goes to it's predecessor Windows 10 LTSC 2021 because that doesn't block explorerpatcher or startallback
I actually got StartAllBack working in Windows 11 LTSC without any problems, but I’m not sure if EP might have a similar effect… 🤔
@@DeterminedTorres startallback bypasses the restrictions microsoft put on accessing the old windows 7 taskbar
Interesting, I didn't know about all this. I mean I knew about Explorer Patcher not working as well anymore, but didn't know about StartAllBack
Start11 is far superior to startallback. It installs perfectly and is cheap too.
@@nathangroves3177 start11 is mehh and doesn't restore the windows 7 flyouts also startallback is easier to crack.
I have tested a bit with Windows 11 IoT Enterprise, version 23H2 (not the LTSC) in a Virtual Box, and it adds all the additional bloatware as well, just like it would do in the Customer version of W11. It looks like it will not do that if you specify Enginsh(World) as the region, which will install only a couple of apps, just like in this video.
use 10, as its downloads can also be verified to make sure that its not malicious but 11 downloads are mostly sketchy and 11 kind of defeats the purpose of ltsc as its still bloated even without apps or anything
Ever since support ended for 7, I have only used 10 LTSB/LTSC. Currently on 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 21H2 and will run that until 2032. These Enterprise editions of Windows are the only ones that can be reliably tweaked to respect your privacy and not bother you with useless feature updates. They are the closest thing to good old 7 you can get. Not gonna comment on how I got them but let's just say Microsoft at this point absolutely doesn't deserve anyone's money. They have turned the regular Home/Pro versions of Windows into bloated data-gathering spyware OSs that nobody should be running. And it looks like things are only getting worse with 11. I would switch to Linux today if software compatibility wasn't so terrible.
Well said. But do I have to pay them for this version or can I get it through alternative means?
@@robqwert2696The only way you're getting it is by alternative means. LTSC copies are only distributed to large companies
@@robqwert2696 there is a website for getting it if you really want it, mass gravel.
@@robqwert2696you torrent the iso, verify it's hash to know it's legit then activate permanently with massgrave
@@robqwert2696search for windows massgrave ;)
will be pirating LTSC 2024 IoT if i have to use Windows 11
let's just say microsoft doesn't give an egg about it
not recommended for now as it doesn't have enough support for certain apps (atleast from my experience with it for a week) recommended to stay in 23h2 since its almost stable now
@@LoneShot what certain apps are we talkin' about? if it's dat Vanguard mess for Valorant, i don't want it anyways because it's spyware, i don't need CoPilot i don't need non of dat other mess either other than my games except for dat Valorant Vanguard mess oh and OBS and Vegas Pro
@@LoneShot most of my apps work so i don't see why sticking to ltsc, unless it's production apps i can understand that
@@blakedmc1989RaveHD If it's about winget and Windows Terminal, you can install those through Powershell.
Little tip for yall, "Wintoys" ;) Just dont touch the services part because you will disable something that is "safe" but will maybe later cause you a headache if you forget such as the printer service. Microsoft wont release something like this to the public. Business have their version, OEMS have one also with bloat. Both those are supported by microsoft and OEM version is subsidised with telemetry and stuff. Not enough people build computers to warrant a version for them all the support needed to be provided would be costly, no incentive to do it. They used to have one with "paid" upgrades, but updates are free now to the next version of windows so don't.
How to hell you got the windows 11 Iot enterprise LTSC evaluation activated, I am trying to find the key
same
Hi,On this operating system, can I add standard applications such as Ondrive, Office 2021 pro, Adobe Acrobat, Opera and Google Chrome browsers.
You can install these programs just like the usual versions of windows
whats the difference between w11 enterprise and w11 iot enterprise ltsc?
longer support on iot (10 years compared to 5)
@@devisalseverything else is the same?
@@enricod.7198 yes, except that ur iot version will stay on 24h2 ad the regular one will get feature updates too i believe
@@enricod.7198 LTSC doesn't have Universal Platform Apps installed by default
@@enricod.7198 nah just the same
Why this version of windows cant open the windows security app ? I cant disable it ?
I don't think it exists in the Evaluation version of it, the full version has it.
I'm pretty sure the windows defender system is still working even though you can't open the settings.
Where is the link to purchase LTSC IoT??? What good is a eval if you cant buy it? How much is it?
You have to go through one of the official distributors like I show in the video. That's why I don't like it.
@@memstechtips I have been using LTSC N 2021 for past 2 years zero issues.
What they call IoT I call embedded, we use it in some specialized medical equipment. And yes even XP it was supported much longer. They have to because medical tech moves at a much slower pace than consumer land and stability is paramount not features. And it takes longer to get approved to even use the equipment. There is like 5+ year lag time with medical OS software and consumer.
@@memstechtips I've never priced it as it came with the specialized equipment. When it expires they want you to buy new equipment 80,000+ for the 150.00 OS.
How much was the price last time you checked?
been there done that. i was using 10ltsc for the past months but i am going back to regular w11pro. i like the idea of ltsc but in my experience its just not worth it. on modern hardware, the performance increase is minor at best. you deal with slightly less bloat but as a tradeoff you introduce other problems. yes in theory its cool that a windows version is stable and supported for long but the issue is: software developer will force you to regular update regardless. For example adobe blocks me out and wont let me install the latest versions of programs i use because they think my windows version is too old.
and the main purpose of my pc is: that i can do all the stuff i need.
trading minor performance and slight annoyances are not worth the tradeoff in usability. and i cant be bothered anymore with finding tradeoffs or workarounds to get stuff working. i could somehow get 11ltsc to get a temporary solution but what in half a year, i ll have the exact same issue again.
so as a final verdict: is ltsc a good windows version? yes. its super stable. but is it a daily driver for most people? no
Why on earth are you still using Adobe? So many now have rightly abandoned Adobe products because of the company's criminal behavior and, simply that, for most Adobe products, there are better alternatives, many of which are completely free.
@@ObakuZenCenterUSA because there is a reason adobe is an industry standard and everyone is familiar with it. i have to work with it. sometimes you need to work in a rental studio for example or you have to work for or with someone else or you have someone else work for you. you cant deal with using random weird software noone knows how to use. 1. and 2. there simply is no replacement to LR, the way it utilizes catalogues and the way i can insert external plugins for my workflow. One does not simply change a working workflow simply because someone online has a different opinion. neither do i want to, nor do i have time to relearn my workflow and like 16+ years of program familiarity just for the sake of it. and yes, i tried the so called ''awesome alternatives'' nah thanks, i m good.
what i ask myself is if some applications or game anti-cheats will not run on this because i know that at least some apps/games read out the windows version string and if it is a "server" version they just dont run, even though they could technically run. so i wonder if iot counts as "consumer" build or "server" build in that regard
keeping windows 10 ltsc. steamvr was unstable with windows 11 ltsc
is it recommended for gaming ?
No
@@Kranicated im using it for gaming and it has no problem
@@last-kt i mean, it isn’t recommended for the average (the ones who don’t know what they’re doing)
@@Kranicated we gotta look at it this way, it's the original windows just debloated it
@@last-kt yeah but for some people it might bring problems or some software not working properly
Cpu load should be shown for every core separatly. Witch is not the case at 6:57 . Imho this version is cut down too much.
How much is the license? Is the Win 10 LTSC expensive also?
Why are you paying for software that you can get free?
I was not familiar with the long term support availability or price. I know you can get a lic key for $20 with regular windows.
I have basiclly this same thing using ntlite
I have no preinatalled apps, no windows defender, no edge at all and no onedrive. I don't have 24h2, its 23h2 and checking updates everything is up to date.
No issues, qnd everything works fine.
NTLite is definitely a good tool to use to create a debloated OS.
what happens after evaluation period? will the system stop working? or It would just show watermark info on the desktop? Can this be activated with regular win 11 key?
your pc will automatically turn off every 1 hour, also you need a special key from Microsoft or some pirated activator script to have a activated fully working ltsc version
@@Gimbez so it's basically unusable.
@@vm123 unless you know how to active licence.. yes
@@Gimbez is there a way to extend evaluation period forever?
The evaluation is just a test operating system, not to be used as your main system. To get the full version of LTSC and to activate it will involve piracy and I can't help with that unfortunately.
There is no Co-pilot on this Windows and that's the most important thing.
nothing beats Windows 10 LTSC IoT because it has the lowest mouse latency since Windows 7. It is perfect for online gaming and is very snappy. Windows 11 is still Windows 11, doesn´t matter the build, at its core it is laggy
im using the same version and it still has copilot
@@George_C-e4vur computer must suck bro cuz there's no way windows 11 is still laggy for you
@@Moli05 You nailed it. I've been on it since the first beta opened and I swear to god people will say anything at this point to avoid admitting Windows 11 performs just as well as 10. lmao
@@dirg3music This aged so badly, now that it's been completely debunked that Windows 11 performs better than 10 in so many use cases.
you can alter the Skus and upgrade the evaluation version to full. you still need to activate though so as you say that would involve piracy!!
You will need the skus from the full version. And then, if you want to fix Windows Security, you will need the full ISO to perform an in-place upgrade. If you're going to bother jumping through those hoops to convert the eval version to full, you're better off installing the full version from the start.
@@Jon717 where to download the full version from?
@@ArashCommand2313massgravel
@@Jon717main questions are, how can I convert the full w11 version to the iot one and how can I obtain a key for the iot one?
Doing this is a bad idea, and it will break DISM, windows update and many important system components
If i switch to this on my laptop that had w11 pro preinstalled, can i get it back one day ?
If you still have the product key / license linked to your microsoft account, yes.
How did you get a not evaluation version
massgrave has it.
It is important for me to know whether the Twingate application runs in it or not. Please make a video by installing the Twingate application.
I'm sorry but I can't make a video just for that, I'm pretty sure it will work though.
Or try not being lazy and test it in vmware. It'll be a lot faster than asking someone else to make and upload a whole video just for one viewers specific requirement.
LOL! This channel isn't your personal tech support for a shady alternative VPN.
Guys im using window 10 iot ltsc 2021 and live time is simular like window 11 iot ltsc and you can buy legal key and everything
can windows 11 Ltsc run smoothly on hdd
It definitely runs a lot better than normal Windows 11, that's for sure.
@@memstechtips what about compared to w10 ltsc
Brother kindly help in this .... if i will install this version windows 11 ltsc so after that weather i will be able to downgrade to windows 10 after 90 days or my pc will permanently crash please look into this otherwise i will lost my pc completely 🥲😭😭
This has to be a fresh install.
Yes you will have to do a fresh install again.
@@memstechtips thanks a lot brother and i have one more doubt after 90 days this version will completely expire or only it will be deactivated ?? Or my windows 11 ltsc will currupt ??? 🙂🥲😭
@@txmade4371 thanks buddy!!
@@Akash-pr6gz The only thing that will happen after 90 days, is your computer will shut down after an hour of use. It will not crash or corrupt it. Just reinstall it after or before the 90 days and you will be good to go.
here in sri lanka we always use pirate versions
distributing a non activated windows iso doesn't go against their eula
Oh really? I didn't know that...
@@memstechtips yeah it's perfectly ok to distribute legit non pirated windows copies.
@@Deepslate3DMicrosoft doesn't charge for the ISO files, they charge customers for the licence.
They provide the ISO files for free on their website. So by sharing the ISO files, you are actually saving resources as well as the cost for Microsoft.
The piracy comes into picture, when you are activating the Windows through non-official channels.
However Microsoft doesn't care about individual consumers. They want us to pirate (If we can't afford to pay for it) and use Windows OS only. They want to keep us away from Linux at all cost.
So people are only familiar with Windows OS and when we will start working in a corporate or enterprise environment, those businesses will have no option but to use Windows OS, because their employees are only familiar with Windows OS.
In short, Microsoft makes it money from Corporate and Enterprise customers.
And Microsoft is extremely strict about corporate and enterprises using genuine copies of Windows OS. They can even take legal actions against the businesses using pirated copies and it is actually worth it for Microsoft to sue such businesses to get larger amount as legal fines.
Suing an individual customer won't get such return, so Microsoft will end up losing more money to even sue a customer, because corporate lawyers charge a lot of money to fight such cases in court.
Thank you! I tried W11 LTSC and it was pretty good, but I like first leaked W11 21996.1 the most,it's the best. What is the difference between W11 LTSC and W11 IOT LTSC? Thanks. Also ur channel is amazing and you explain everything so good!
Massgrave has a list of the differences. The big ones being IoT has 10 years of support and has support for digital licenses. Non-IoT has 5 years of support and only supports volume licensing.
@@Jon717 ohh thanks. If I activate IOT windows 10 it OEMS my pc?
@@fallingoff29 It provides an OEM:NONSLP license on IoT Enterprise and an OEM:DM license for the Subscription edition. It doesn't store the license on the motherboard, if that's what you're wondering. With digital licensing, the activation information is stored on Microsoft's servers.
@@Jon717 oh okay, thank you. Is there a way to oem on motherboard?
@@fallingoff29 No, not since Windows 7.
You don't need to use the full name. Just Windows LTSC is fine and an acceptable norm in the industry. As for the information about alternatively available OS install sources, it comes across as about a decade out of date for some reason. It's as inaccurate as most of the fear mongering then was as well. Also, don't recommend Windows 11 including the LTSC version. It's not reliable, has unnecessary telemetry and bloatware and just doesn't perform as well as Windows 10 for many use cases. Using the Windows 11 version is completely unnecessary, given the lifespan of the Windows 10 version and simply is not a good OS. It also is redundant and defeats the purpose of using an LTSC version, outside of a specific, often corporate environment.
Thanks for your feedback man. 🤝🏻
Windows Server 2022 is better for streaming
Your voiceover sounds like text to speech.
Lol that's funny, this video was definitely not made with TTS.
Windows 10 LTSC or this?
Win 10
Thank you🫵👍🏼👍🏼
4:44 puff
Installed on hp envy but no wifi ! 😂 Fuck this.
lol. To be honest I've had that issue on Windows 10 and Windows 11 too, think the drivers aren't included in the OS image.
@@memstechtips I forgot about this comment :D Yes, I have to confirm that it is the fault of the drivers. I downloaded them from the manufacturer's website (HP Envy) and the WiFi worked. Interestingly, once I installed the drivers and loaded Chrome OS on my laptop to check how it would work, they disappeared again and I couldn't even log in to my Google account.
Y all dis messin... y not just install tiny 11???
Windows 11 ltsc is more stable than moded version(tiny11)
Windows 11 LTSC gets more support, is official and isn't scuffed like tiny11 was.
Is 10 years of support not worth it to you?
Yeah the 10 year security updates is one of the best things about it.
You can bypass the restarts after the expiration and also remove the evaluation watermark without downloading anything extra
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