I use the same Arch-based installation since Dec. 2018. There was exactly one time an update messed something up and I had to do more than a reboot to fix it(I had to kill a few systemd services before rebooting). That already makes it more stable than some "stable" distros I've tried. And Arch doesn't have strange default configurations that mess up compatibility here and there. It also forced me to learn a bit more about how Linux works in the background, which again made it much easier to configure and fix a couple things myself. Now it would be different if I ran a server or a machine that really just has to work no matter what, but for my development machine with nice backup and restore setup I really prefer the comfort and compatibility that I get from the huge repositories with current software that makes setting up development environments etc. so much more painless.
I have been Arch user for the last two years, everything working flawlessly except for a couple of AUR packages, and a problem with my wi-fi card and an update of the kernel. In all AUR problems, comments in the package have fixed the problem. When the kernel update broke my wi-fi, I had to downgrade the kernel and excluded it from the updates (a thing that I had should do early tbh)
I would say my understanding of Linux is very basic, so my first Arch install lasted about a year and a half before a major issue (completely due to lack of maintenance on my part). This latest install I took more steps to actually learn proper maintenance and to keep the system in better shape. It's been super stable and just runs so much faster than any other OSes I've used. And the way I see it, if you have problems and you learn to fix them, you'll gradually begin to understand more about how the system actually works and see why it's actually a stable system.
I've been using Arch Linux for about 8 months now. I've experimented a lot with it. I use custom kernel for gaming, use chaotic aur and have been using yay extensively. While I was installing/upgrading, I've aborted it many times and due to power outage my PC even turned off too. I've never ever experienced any kind of breakage. Nothing. I've even stopped using timeshift a few months ago. Before using arch I always thought it was supposed to be unstable and it breaks a lot. In my experience, Debian and Ubuntu based distros have broke on me but never Arch Linux. So I am very confused why people even say it breaks all the time.
@@canmetan670 Yes, I'm still on Arch and I've had zero issues. Moreover I'm on the same install since the time I made that comment because I never had to reinstall or distrohop again. I've even started recommending to my friends to just install Arch, of course I usually help them in their initial installation. The only "issues" I faced are these two: 1. On some rare occasions the mirrors you are using to download your pacman packages will stop working so you would have to use "rankmirrors" command to get fastest mirrors every once in a while. It's actually recommended to update your mirrorlist every once in a while for best speeds so not doing it for several months on end was really my fault. 2. If you haven't updated your system in more than a month or two, you might have trouble with "missing PGP keys" when updating. So if you ever face that issue just installing pacman-mirrorlist and chaotic-mirrorlist (if you use chaotic-aur) before regular "pacman -Syu" will fix all those issues. Of course, it's best to just get in the habit of updating your system every week at the very least. I wouldn't really consider these things to be issues honestly because it's just something that will happen eventually if you don't maintain your system properly. PS: I still don't use timeshift lol
@@NerdistRay hey bro, I downloaded Linux mint 2 days ago, I was a Windows user and I desire to learn more about Linux, what would u recommend me to do? Btw I wanted to install arch from the very start, but some friends recommended me to just install mint just because I would end up blaming Linux for being "too complicated". And in the worst case, go back to using Linux
TL;DR it is as stable as Ubuntu ... the problem here is the word stable, the right word static ... Ubuntu is static and do not get new versions of programs ... there is still updates that can break your system, if you are worry about if the new versions is stable ... no it is not but you can use manjaro becuz manjaro get 2 week more testing before release ... so the Arch users will find the problems if any and it will be fix before you get a update
Some Arch distros such as Manjaro are extremely unstable and brake very easily, although Arch itself brakes the solutions are always in the Arch wiki. Arcolinux is particularly stable
0:24 the second one is because of the rolling release thing (you get fed with tons of barely tested state-of-the-art software). You are constantly on devel repo, so to speak.
In "Linux Sucks 2020", Lunduke's reason #1 for why Linux sucks is the lack of backwards compatibility (I couldn't agree more with him). I recently needed an app the development of which stopped in 2013, and the only way I found to use it without totally messing up my system and compromising "stability" and usability (dependency hell) was to install it in a VM with Ubuntu 16.04. So I was thinking that a great project would be to learn how to make appimages ... any knowledge to share about how to do that?! That would be a killer video
Today when I was trying to update blender pacman missed some dependencies and blender wasn't work, because I haven't got the newest version of some lib. So I think this might be "the unstable" aspect of arch, but it was really easy to fix, just search in browser for package name of this lib and install it. And it works fine, probably it's already fixed
For something as popular as Blender someone else is likely to have had the same problem, manual intervention is one of the few times you could argue that arch isn't stable.
11 years so far without reinstalling... I even changed my hard drive twice and my whole computer once! Just had to copy some partitions. My experience on Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora: reinstall at each new version, each 6 to 12 months. I don't know if that's stability but that's for sure no usable to me!
I've been using arch for a couple of years now and it's been super stable. I even have an old laptop as my file server that runs arch as well. No problems... People who say arch is unstable are not actually using arch.
I have been using arch since 2018 as my main driver in both my home and work machines and I had never any problem. Only sometimes the one or the other AUR package may be out of date or missing a dependency, but I use only a few AUR packages anyway.
Been on it for 2 weeks now, I've been on macOS before for about 7 months and windows before that . I switched because I find myself mostly using open source software, and the laptop I'm using right now had its ssd dead, replaced it with some old ssd and used the opportunity to install Arch. The installation was painful for me, mostly because of WiFi. Took me a half a day what "30-minute" guide directed me to do. It's fulfilling once you get to the stage where you think "this is usable" and knowing mostly what's installed. Another thing that feels good is when I look at htop to see few processes running, on a newly bootup macOS I would have around 300+, but here on Arch around 50. By the way, I used your dotfiles to startup my experience, I didn't really knew how to start or what to install, say, for audio, or for wm 😄. Thanks, really helpful.
Arch is certainly a good way to learn how to use Linux, however it kind of reminds me of that friend who needs constant attention or it will dump you :-)
Anyone can help flagging packages if their out of date its nice. I had no problems for two years, I did reinstall once but got same problem after reinstall. Haha, user error my bad. Got to clean up my packages and home directory atleast!
All my the problems with arch boils down to: Wifi drivers (but I feel it's a thing of the past now). Proprietary Nvidia drivers(fuck em). And I've been GNOME'D couple of times. Some hardware stuff mostly was ACPI shenanigans. Dependency stuff. Otherwise, without using Nvidia drivers, and after ditching Gnome the experience is quite stable.
I have used arch for like a year...and this was my beginner linux....it's seems strange...I know...it's cause of my love for windows...I mean all u had to do was just choose a harddisk...but after I got into arch...I loved it...yes, it was really hard to understand and install and had ran into some issues...but theres always some documentation about the problem u face..and when u go through it..u actually learn something about linux....the issue is not arch...whatever happens on arch...it's what something we do ourselves... atleast thats what I have learner...
It was so unstable. Back in 2012 the system die after a pacman - Syu. X don't start, network die pyhon or libraries no compatible with newer versions that was the norm back in that days But in 2020 the system work like a charm
I love Arch, but I love Solus OS more for the stability and still have weekly updates as a rolling release which gives me all the latest updates for software and linux kernel
I've had less problems on Arch than any other distro and I've run the whole gamut (currently using Gentoo). The only two problems I ever had was an LTS kernel bug that wouldn't let me shut down or restart when I was using KDE (which is a horrible bug, don't get me wrong) and a package that was already installed that needed to be deleted to get an update to work. Every other distro I have tried has been pretty fraught with annoying bugs and oddities, even Debian and especially CentOS. Arch "just works" more than any other distro in the Linux world imo.
I'm using Arch since Feb this year. Broke couple of times... 1. -Syu screwed up my GPT table scheme. testdisk found backup of the scheme, saved my day, but booting was 4x slower than before. My files went on USB, and I ended up reinstalling Arch. 2. Complete system freeze (This happened on all Linux distro I was using since 2016. - Ubuntu, ElementaryOS and now Arch). I remember that Freeze came without warning, at any time. I think I edited some lines of code in bootloader or intel-ucode, not sure, it has to do something with CSTATE=0 or something like that. Fixed my problem since then, even tho I reinstalled Arch 2 times since that (maybe it was a kernel bug?). 3. Various small problems with locale.conf & languages in general. Making changes in System settings (KDE DE) somehow changed my language from US-EN to ES-EN. And much smaller ones... BUT - this experience shifted my way of thinking and Arch just showed me my bad habits in IT world. Clearly, I was so much in a comfort zone, thinking everything is safe because they're in the safe hands (lol). Things I learned: - Backup regularly. - If something is not broken - dont fix it (It's OK to customize but I think you should not dive so deep into that) - Everyday is the day for learning new things. P.S. I had moments when I just wanted to cry lol. It was really pain to install it, configure it etc. But since I was looking for this type of OS all my life, when I finally managed to install it and run some programs - I felt like I came home after so many years of wandering. Edit: Typo.
@@yiannisspanos694 Well it was 2 months ago so this info will not be 100% accurate because my memory is bad. I had stable build (I think I had under 1000 packages, KDE + Latte-Dock, Wine, some games etc.) I was using daily. Went on trip for a month, came back -> sudo pacman -Syu... and then terminal wrote the message that says that I need to do fsck. fsck *dash* something. Done it, everything was normal. I was using it that day as before, no problems at all. Shutdown my PC, went to bed and the next morning it just wont boot up. It was like I installed bootloader without OS. GRUB didnt know what to boot. Like I didnt had SSD connected at all. Chroot options with my USB drive didnt work because PC didnt recognize that anything was installed. When I tried to reinstall Arch, at the beginning where you make partitions, there I saw the message saying "GPT partition scheme is damaged" or something. It saw that there is something, some file system, but it was corrupted. Bootloader: GRUB; Partition scheme: 1. Boot - ext4 (not sure about type of partition) 2. Root - ext4 3. Home - ext4 4. SWAP - Linux swap 5. Boot (Second boot, I also had a problem with this. During some of my early installations (when I just started using Arch) it was asking me to make a second boot partition (not ext4 or something.) I think it was BIOS Boot type. So from that point on, I always make that fifth partition with 500mb just to be safe). About UEFI.. not sure. I think it is BIOS. /efivars/ command at the beginning of installation showed me that it doesnt exist, so... Im not sure where did I heard about testdisk but it saved my files. It restored scheme, so I can backup everything. Later on, I reinstalled Arch since it was taking from 20s(normal boot time for me) to about 2 minutes...
@@BrodieRobertson I went deep into the meme and did shit like customizing my own dwm and st configs and removing any package that isn't necessary but then I really got bored of it and kinda don't see why I, personally, would need to use this. And I tried compiling ungoogled chromium from the aur like 10 times and it didn't finish once and locked up my computer multiple times (8 ryzen cpu btw so it should have enough power to do this) and it seems like only rpmfusion has a precompiled and updated version of that (for debian based distros you have to manually download .deb files it seems?). Maybe manually configuring literally everything just isn't for me.
Oh and I have switched to Linux, specifically Manjaro,about 2 months ago now? Not my first excursion though, I was dual booting win & Ubuntu back in 2010.
Lol my first arch install I removed some software I thought was extra that I didn't need on my second boot up. Turns out i did need it because it reverted to the command line propt you initially start in. I just reformatted and started over since i hadn't really installed much yet. So I guess I had one crash on arch but it was entirely my fault out of not understanding what I was removing from my system.
pairly stable but carefull when you upgrade your kernel or use unofficial repo like kernel-lts like me and i recommending to use artix linux with openrc openrc is more stablized than systemd
So, it has a flip side of the coin. When a distro is "stable" enough to endure it's user's stupidity, it usually means the distro is full of "anti-monkey" bloatware and dumb nailed down things. But I personally don't know of any distro capable of doing such things (maybe except Debian/Devuan?).
Using arch has taught me a lot about my computer and linux, mostly through troubleshooting though =\ I kind of wish that I hadn't used luke smiths larbs because sometimes I get really lost with why things aren't happening as I think they should be (i.e. I'm trying to get xrdb $HOME/.Xresources" to execute from my .xprofile but it doesn't seem to be) I guess all-in-all it's frustrating but rewarding
Just use Manjaro. All of the benefits of Arch without (most) of the headaches. That said, I've had a lot of experiences with system instability on Arch/Manjaro, mostly due to the kernel. I don't understand why so many people say they have no problems ever. That's why I always run the LTS kernel, which is what I can recommend to new users. Forget the latest unstable kernel, always run LTS or even older if you want to prevent running into problems. With older more stable kernels, everything runs as it should IME really. I haven't really had problems with random packages breaking on me really. Unless I messed something up when configuring stuff, lol.
My Arch install breaks 2 or 3 times a year after an update, so based on my experience Arch is for the tinkerer not for a daily driver office working workflow.
Or you can not update. If you need your machine don't worry about updating, this is true of all of computing. Assume the worst, all software and hardware alone are liable to issues wen updating.
Arch has become f;;'" up the installer has pear and a screwed up python script. It ripped out my mbr from my hard drive installing a dos settup on an win7 i3 processor 4 core i tried 6 times in a vm both in virtmanage and vmbox. No use for idiots that fix things not broken
I hate, I hate the elitism of many Arch users. I will never touch Arch, as I cannot find a sincere person who will answer a noob question. Arch promotes elitism in Linux.
@@BrodieRobertson Simply you are not dealing with the real linux when depend on systemd. You have to deal with unix way not systemd way, and that is not the purpose of using Linux among any other OS out there.
I use the same Arch-based installation since Dec. 2018. There was exactly one time an update messed something up and I had to do more than a reboot to fix it(I had to kill a few systemd services before rebooting). That already makes it more stable than some "stable" distros I've tried. And Arch doesn't have strange default configurations that mess up compatibility here and there.
It also forced me to learn a bit more about how Linux works in the background, which again made it much easier to configure and fix a couple things myself.
Now it would be different if I ran a server or a machine that really just has to work no matter what, but for my development machine with nice backup and restore setup I really prefer the comfort and compatibility that I get from the huge repositories with current software that makes setting up development environments etc. so much more painless.
For a server I don't see a benefit running Arch just let the professionals handle the default operating system configs.
My experience on Arch has been stable as hell
The Arch wiki seems to be one of the better maintained Linux wiki sites out there
@@BrodieRobertson yes uwu
I've used Arch for two years full time and it never crashed on me.
I have been Arch user for the last two years, everything working flawlessly except for a couple of AUR packages, and a problem with my wi-fi card and an update of the kernel. In all AUR problems, comments in the package have fixed the problem. When the kernel update broke my wi-fi, I had to downgrade the kernel and excluded it from the updates (a thing that I had should do early tbh)
I'm on Arch via Arco linux and I am loving it
I would say my understanding of Linux is very basic, so my first Arch install lasted about a year and a half before a major issue (completely due to lack of maintenance on my part). This latest install I took more steps to actually learn proper maintenance and to keep the system in better shape. It's been super stable and just runs so much faster than any other OSes I've used.
And the way I see it, if you have problems and you learn to fix them, you'll gradually begin to understand more about how the system actually works and see why it's actually a stable system.
I've been using Arch Linux for about 8 months now. I've experimented a lot with it. I use custom kernel for gaming, use chaotic aur and have been using yay extensively. While I was installing/upgrading, I've aborted it many times and due to power outage my PC even turned off too. I've never ever experienced any kind of breakage. Nothing. I've even stopped using timeshift a few months ago. Before using arch I always thought it was supposed to be unstable and it breaks a lot. In my experience, Debian and Ubuntu based distros have broke on me but never Arch Linux. So I am very confused why people even say it breaks all the time.
how is your experience after a year? are you still on arch?
@@canmetan670 Yes, I'm still on Arch and I've had zero issues. Moreover I'm on the same install since the time I made that comment because I never had to reinstall or distrohop again. I've even started recommending to my friends to just install Arch, of course I usually help them in their initial installation. The only "issues" I faced are these two:
1. On some rare occasions the mirrors you are using to download your pacman packages will stop working so you would have to use "rankmirrors" command to get fastest mirrors every once in a while. It's actually recommended to update your mirrorlist every once in a while for best speeds so not doing it for several months on end was really my fault.
2. If you haven't updated your system in more than a month or two, you might have trouble with "missing PGP keys" when updating. So if you ever face that issue just installing pacman-mirrorlist and chaotic-mirrorlist (if you use chaotic-aur) before regular "pacman -Syu" will fix all those issues. Of course, it's best to just get in the habit of updating your system every week at the very least.
I wouldn't really consider these things to be issues honestly because it's just something that will happen eventually if you don't maintain your system properly.
PS: I still don't use timeshift lol
@@NerdistRay hey bro, I downloaded Linux mint 2 days ago, I was a Windows user and I desire to learn more about Linux, what would u recommend me to do?
Btw I wanted to install arch from the very start, but some friends recommended me to just install mint just because I would end up blaming Linux for being "too complicated". And in the worst case, go back to using Linux
TL;DR it is as stable as Ubuntu ... the problem here is the word stable, the right word static ... Ubuntu is static and do not get new versions of programs ... there is still updates that can break your system, if you are worry about if the new versions is stable ... no it is not but you can use manjaro becuz manjaro get 2 week more testing before release ... so the Arch users will find the problems if any and it will be fix before you get a update
More than 3 years on one of my installs, if it breaks... It's always my fault lol. Timeshift is your friend... Just rollback and be careful next time
Some Arch distros such as Manjaro are extremely unstable and brake very easily, although Arch itself brakes the solutions are always in the Arch wiki. Arcolinux is particularly stable
0:24 the second one is because of the rolling release thing (you get fed with tons of barely tested state-of-the-art software). You are constantly on devel repo, so to speak.
In "Linux Sucks 2020", Lunduke's reason #1 for why Linux sucks is the lack of backwards compatibility (I couldn't agree more with him). I recently needed an app the development of which stopped in 2013, and the only way I found to use it without totally messing up my system and compromising "stability" and usability (dependency hell) was to install it in a VM with Ubuntu 16.04. So I was thinking that a great project would be to learn how to make appimages ... any knowledge to share about how to do that?! That would be a killer video
I haven't looked into it but that would absolutely be a cool video
Today when I was trying to update blender pacman missed some dependencies and blender wasn't work, because I haven't got the newest version of some lib. So I think this might be "the unstable" aspect of arch, but it was really easy to fix, just search in browser for package name of this lib and install it.
And it works fine, probably it's already fixed
For something as popular as Blender someone else is likely to have had the same problem, manual intervention is one of the few times you could argue that arch isn't stable.
In my opinion Arch is not unstable. Not in the sense Fedora is. Arch is more stable than many other well-known distributions.
@@simpleprogrammingcodes How is fedora unatable? I'm planning on ditching my Solus and I'm thinking of switching either on arch or fedofa.
11 years so far without reinstalling... I even changed my hard drive twice and my whole computer once! Just had to copy some partitions. My experience on Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora: reinstall at each new version, each 6 to 12 months. I don't know if that's stability but that's for sure no usable to me!
I've been using arch for a couple of years now and it's been super stable. I even have an old laptop as my file server that runs arch as well. No problems... People who say arch is unstable are not actually using arch.
I have been using arch since 2018 as my main driver in both my home and work machines and I had never any problem. Only sometimes the one or the other AUR package may be out of date or missing a dependency, but I use only a few AUR packages anyway.
Been on it for 2 weeks now, I've been on macOS before for about 7 months and windows before that . I switched because I find myself mostly using open source software, and the laptop I'm using right now had its ssd dead, replaced it with some old ssd and used the opportunity to install Arch.
The installation was painful for me, mostly because of WiFi. Took me a half a day what "30-minute" guide directed me to do. It's fulfilling once you get to the stage where you think "this is usable" and knowing mostly what's installed. Another thing that feels good is when I look at htop to see few processes running, on a newly bootup macOS I would have around 300+, but here on Arch around 50.
By the way, I used your dotfiles to startup my experience, I didn't really knew how to start or what to install, say, for audio, or for wm 😄. Thanks, really helpful.
Arch is certainly a good way to learn how to use Linux, however it kind of reminds me of that friend who needs constant attention or it will dump you :-)
Anyone can help flagging packages if their out of date its nice. I had no problems for two years, I did reinstall once but got same problem after reinstall. Haha, user error my bad. Got to clean up my packages and home directory atleast!
All my the problems with arch boils down to:
Wifi drivers (but I feel it's a thing of the past now).
Proprietary Nvidia drivers(fuck em).
And I've been GNOME'D couple of times.
Some hardware stuff mostly was ACPI shenanigans.
Dependency stuff.
Otherwise, without using Nvidia drivers, and after ditching Gnome the experience is quite stable.
Configure snapshots using timeshift
Fucked it up? Run 1 command and it's almost fixed
I have used arch for like a year...and this was my beginner linux....it's seems strange...I know...it's cause of my love for windows...I mean all u had to do was just choose a harddisk...but after I got into arch...I loved it...yes, it was really hard to understand and install and had ran into some issues...but theres always some documentation about the problem u face..and when u go through it..u actually learn something about linux....the issue is not arch...whatever happens on arch...it's what something we do ourselves... atleast thats what I have learner...
It was so unstable. Back in 2012 the system die after a pacman - Syu. X don't start, network die pyhon or libraries no compatible with newer versions that was the norm back in that days
But in 2020 the system work like a charm
Maybe it's a relic of the past that never died.
I love Arch, but I love Solus OS more for the stability and still have weekly updates as a rolling release which gives me all the latest updates for software and linux kernel
I've had less problems on Arch than any other distro and I've run the whole gamut (currently using Gentoo). The only two problems I ever had was an LTS kernel bug that wouldn't let me shut down or restart when I was using KDE (which is a horrible bug, don't get me wrong) and a package that was already installed that needed to be deleted to get an update to work. Every other distro I have tried has been pretty fraught with annoying bugs and oddities, even Debian and especially CentOS. Arch "just works" more than any other distro in the Linux world imo.
I'm using Arch since Feb this year. Broke couple of times...
1. -Syu screwed up my GPT table scheme. testdisk found backup of the scheme, saved my day, but booting was 4x slower than before. My files went on USB, and I ended up reinstalling Arch.
2. Complete system freeze (This happened on all Linux distro I was using since 2016. - Ubuntu, ElementaryOS and now Arch). I remember that Freeze came without warning, at any time. I think I edited some lines of code in bootloader or intel-ucode, not sure, it has to do something with CSTATE=0 or something like that. Fixed my problem since then, even tho I reinstalled Arch 2 times since that (maybe it was a kernel bug?).
3. Various small problems with locale.conf & languages in general. Making changes in System settings (KDE DE) somehow changed my language from US-EN to ES-EN.
And much smaller ones...
BUT - this experience shifted my way of thinking and Arch just showed me my bad habits in IT world. Clearly, I was so much in a comfort zone, thinking everything is safe because they're in the safe hands (lol).
Things I learned:
- Backup regularly.
- If something is not broken - dont fix it (It's OK to customize but I think you should not dive so deep into that)
- Everyday is the day for learning new things.
P.S. I had moments when I just wanted to cry lol. It was really pain to install it, configure it etc. But since I was looking for this type of OS all my life, when I finally managed to install it and run some programs - I felt like I came home after so many years of wandering.
Edit: Typo.
For (1) I need proof cause that's hard to believe. What fs did you use, what partition scheme and what bootloader? Also was it a UEFI installation?
@@yiannisspanos694 Well it was 2 months ago so this info will not be 100% accurate because my memory is bad.
I had stable build (I think I had under 1000 packages, KDE + Latte-Dock, Wine, some games etc.) I was using daily. Went on trip for a month, came back -> sudo pacman -Syu... and then terminal wrote the message that says that I need to do fsck. fsck *dash* something. Done it, everything was normal. I was using it that day as before, no problems at all. Shutdown my PC, went to bed and the next morning it just wont boot up.
It was like I installed bootloader without OS. GRUB didnt know what to boot. Like I didnt had SSD connected at all.
Chroot options with my USB drive didnt work because PC didnt recognize that anything was installed.
When I tried to reinstall Arch, at the beginning where you make partitions, there I saw the message saying "GPT partition scheme is damaged" or something. It saw that there is something, some file system, but it was corrupted.
Bootloader: GRUB;
Partition scheme:
1. Boot - ext4 (not sure about type of partition)
2. Root - ext4
3. Home - ext4
4. SWAP - Linux swap
5. Boot (Second boot, I also had a problem with this. During some of my early installations (when I just started using Arch) it was asking me to make a second boot partition (not ext4 or something.) I think it was BIOS Boot type. So from that point on, I always make that fifth partition with 500mb just to be safe).
About UEFI.. not sure. I think it is BIOS. /efivars/ command at the beginning of installation showed me that it doesnt exist, so...
Im not sure where did I heard about testdisk but it saved my files. It restored scheme, so I can backup everything. Later on, I reinstalled Arch since it was taking from 20s(normal boot time for me) to about 2 minutes...
I've been using Arch for the last 4 months, so far nothing broke but I'll probably go back to Fedora KDE
Why's that?
@@BrodieRobertson I went deep into the meme and did shit like customizing my own dwm and st configs and removing any package that isn't necessary but then I really got bored of it and kinda don't see why I, personally, would need to use this. And I tried compiling ungoogled chromium from the aur like 10 times and it didn't finish once and locked up my computer multiple times (8 ryzen cpu btw so it should have enough power to do this) and it seems like only rpmfusion has a precompiled and updated version of that (for debian based distros you have to manually download .deb files it seems?). Maybe manually configuring literally everything just isn't for me.
tremc is updated now, but transmission-remote-cli is unmaintained right now
Oh good, I recorded this about a week ago
Oh and I have switched to Linux, specifically Manjaro,about 2 months ago now? Not my first excursion though, I was dual booting win & Ubuntu back in 2010.
Love using vanilla Arch
Or you may install Arch with LTS kernel or both of the Rolling and LTS kernel together!
Lol my first arch install I removed some software I thought was extra that I didn't need on my second boot up. Turns out i did need it because it reverted to the command line propt you initially start in. I just reformatted and started over since i hadn't really installed much yet. So I guess I had one crash on arch but it was entirely my fault out of not understanding what I was removing from my system.
RIP
pairly stable but carefull when you upgrade your kernel
or use unofficial repo like kernel-lts like me
and i recommending to use artix linux with openrc
openrc is more stablized than systemd
I update and halfway hope something breaks.
10:48 Only on arch is it your fault for not reading some new article
It's your responsibility to deal with your problems
So, it has a flip side of the coin. When a distro is "stable" enough to endure it's user's stupidity, it usually means the distro is full of "anti-monkey" bloatware and dumb nailed down things. But I personally don't know of any distro capable of doing such things (maybe except Debian/Devuan?).
I was an Arch user until 2011, when a simple "pacman -Syu" ruined my system. I've been on Debian / Ubuntu ever since.
@Adaa it doesn't happen often but it happens. Happened to me too
I've used Arch for several years now. Never even broke it once. If it f**ked up, I knew it was my fault.
Compiling programs has nothing to do with the kernel.
Using arch has taught me a lot about my computer and linux, mostly through troubleshooting though =\ I kind of wish that I hadn't used luke smiths larbs because sometimes I get really lost with why things aren't happening as I think they should be (i.e. I'm trying to get xrdb $HOME/.Xresources" to execute from my .xprofile but it doesn't seem to be) I guess all-in-all it's frustrating but rewarding
Arch is almost rock-solid. The only thing that can break Arch is the user himself
I think they say that Arch can be unstable, because it is bleeding edge with releases of apps.
btw i use arch
btw thanks for the comment
@@BrodieRobertson thanks man😀
Just use Manjaro. All of the benefits of Arch without (most) of the headaches. That said, I've had a lot of experiences with system instability on Arch/Manjaro, mostly due to the kernel. I don't understand why so many people say they have no problems ever. That's why I always run the LTS kernel, which is what I can recommend to new users. Forget the latest unstable kernel, always run LTS or even older if you want to prevent running into problems. With older more stable kernels, everything runs as it should IME really. I haven't really had problems with random packages breaking on me really. Unless I messed something up when configuring stuff, lol.
What kernel problems have you had.
@@BrodieRobertson Mostly random glitches, sometimes crashes after a kernel update that went away after moving to an older kernel.
3:32 forgot to make a cut :)
Good catch
5:30 This seems to be a pacman problem. Other package managers detect this.
Oh wow my beard was a mess in this video, that's good to know less problems is always a good thing
My Arch install breaks 2 or 3 times a year after an update, so based on my experience Arch is for the tinkerer not for a daily driver office working workflow.
If you need a system that you don't need to tinker Manjaro is a better option if you still want to be Arch based
Or you can not update. If you need your machine don't worry about updating, this is true of all of computing. Assume the worst, all software and hardware alone are liable to issues wen updating.
Yes
Care to explain
@@BrodieRobertson No
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Arch isn't unstable...It's actually quite stable.
Arch is super stable.
As long as you don't do anything dumb
the only people who hated Arch are those Ubuntu fanboiz
The cross platform version is starship
I knew it was one of them
Arch has become f;;'" up the installer has pear and a screwed up python script. It ripped out my mbr from my hard drive installing a dos settup on an win7 i3 processor 4 core i tried 6 times in a vm both in virtmanage and vmbox. No use for idiots that fix things not broken
Young Luke Smith
Young Luke Smith
Tell Luke to stop copying my beard
@@BrodieRobertson XD
I hate, I hate the elitism of many Arch users. I will never touch Arch, as I cannot find a sincere person who will answer a noob question. Arch promotes elitism in Linux.
Are you talking about in my video? I'm literally saying that it is just as stable as anything else
For example? I'm usually on IRC and never had any problems there.
Void linux is the best distro you ever need. Arch linux is crap expecially with systemd kinda shit.
Do you have a reason why systemd is bad
@@BrodieRobertson Simply you are not dealing with the real linux when depend on systemd.
You have to deal with unix way not systemd way, and that is not the purpose of using Linux among any other OS out there.
@@voiceofthetrue1849 have you ever been out of that cave of yours? Systemd IS the Linux way, ask 90% of distros
@@BrodieRobertson
I personally had technical issues with systemd that I couldn't solve. Switched to Artix with runit, and haven't looked back.