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I didn't realize the background sounds until you mentioned it. I replayed with my earphones. Huh. Wow, it sure makes the video so much better than my original thoughts. Thanks.
bro, your channel is criminally underrated. I love your work, I've been subscribed for a while. I cannot express how happy I am to see an in depth analysis of nautical events. Coming from someone who's family has been sailing for centuries.
Thanks. I really appreciate that. I think for the number of videos and the 6 months I've been posting, the channel is doing pretty well. Some of my videos get way more views than other bigger channels. It just takes time to grow.
Another channel that provides the perspective of the sailors on these disasters is called "Maritime Horrors" and these 2 channels can perfectly cover events if they happen to overlap
Agree 100%. Even the centuries part funny enough! My paternal family has been sailing since at the very least back to the late 1600s. I wish I knew more about some of the footage he showed of typhoon sailing. The sea truly is a marvelous thing to behold, I’m just in awe looking at those huge waves shaking steel giants.
Many years ago I took a ferry (cars, lorries & passengers)from Zeebrugge, Belgium to Dover, UK. A storm worsened to force 8. A usual 4 hour journey turned into 9+ hours as it took 4 hours to get into port because of conditions & other vessels. About 75% of people got seasick & the smell was very bad & the toilets unusable. That is an experience I never want to repeat, I would rather be delayed by a day than take the risk on a ro-ro ferry they are death traps if something goes wrong.
I see the term force when describing storms but here in Texas I've not heard the term before. We use the cat system for hurricanes but I'm wondering if you know if the force system is used for something different or if they are 2 different systems of rating storms?
@@zetectic7968 will do, thanks for the info. I'm just not well informed on the scale. Here in SE Texas on land we get a lot of storms but we tend to pay attention to things once they hit tropical storm status before moving into the cat system.
I was on a ferry from Newcastle to Holland it was an overnight deal just after the sunset a storm hit and it was brutal... Fast forward about 3 months now in Istanbul a ferry to a small island and once again a storm hit, the surge was so strong that the ferry actually bent in the midsection the keel was straining so hard from forces that the noise it made was deafening.
I’m a new subscriber and I love your videos! And that says a lot because I NEVER stray away from the content creators I’ve followed for years. But I can’t get enough of your storytelling. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks. I'm on holiday until beginning of Jan so no videos over Xmas new year. I haven't been home to South Africa since covid so I've brought my son to meet his family. Busy researching new stories. See you when I get back
@@waterlinestories Stop using random, unrelated film footage. How many ships did you show in addition to the one? you displayed video of so many different ships i paused it to thumbs down and search for a better video, on the same topic. Nothing pisses me off more than an "educational" video using fake footage that is not accurate at all. You showed at least a down ships here and only one was real, but the viewer doesn;t know what to trust,
Ok fair point. I'll have to think about how to differentiate between actual images of the ship in question and those that demonstrate the point I'm trying to make.
Really great content brother! I discovered a whole genre of fascinating stories I didn't even know I would enjoy. Please continue making content bro!!!! 👍👍👍
You've got an outstanding tragic story telling channel! Despite it being morbid, the way you account what happens during these disasters is amazing and you've given some of the more detailed and easy to understand descriptions in your videos. Keep it up friend I think you'll have a lot more subscribers by summer. Just dont restrict yourself and upload any recounting you see fit :)
Thanks. Could I ask you to clarify what you mean about not restricting myself and upload any recounting I see fit? I'm always interested in constructive feedback
Well covered, I visited Hakodate many years ago and visited the exhibition that memorializes this tragedy. If anyone ever visits Japan, well worth making the journey to Hakodate, a very interesting place with lots of history.
@@ausdredgeanddive my email address is on my about page. So me a message so we can connect. I'm happy to help out if I can. It's always good to have a network with similar interests.
It was a bad presentation because he used random, unrelated film footage the whole time, making it hard for viewers to determine what was real or not. Trash video does not deserve subscribers.
Didn't know I had a passion for stories from the ocean and diving until now! Was completed hooked when listening to your narration and thoughts. Please continue to include metric measurements, along side the imperial, for us here in Pretoria to follow along. Thanks for the awesome content!
I must admit I wasn’t sure what to make of this major change in your presentation. However…much to my relief, any and all doubts and/or discomfort initially felt about your grey sweater were allayed when I quickly realized it’s how you communicate and narrate the events/incidents that makes your content so compelling..not in what clothes you do it. All that is to say I genuinely appreciate your work. You seem to always take the utmost of care to respectfully and ethically cover whatever event/incident. While keeping true to facts, illustrating the often harrowing, anxiety inducing scenarios taking the viewer right into the moment of disaster. A skill I deeply respect and appreciate. 🙏🤓 ✌️🖖
When the captain realized he wasn't going forward and couldn't really return, would it have been possible to call for a couple of tugs to at least get it back to a more sheltered part of the bay where maybe the anchor would really take hold or the water was even more shallow and closer to land in case the passengers had to abandon ship and maybe swim a bit?
Dang im bummed, i found your channel yesterday... binged everything you've put out and this is my ladt one. Glad i stumbled on your channel though. I subbed. This channel definitely deserves more subs
I would have cancelled the trip once I heard "hurricane". People hate me for being overly cautious. It's amazing what some humans try to get away with to move forward. 1 or 2 days out of my lifetime isn't too bad. Walk around speak with others who are also waiting. Make the delay fun.
I don't think that there was anything the Captain could have done here, apart from getting fired for not going at all. I expect he was getting pressure from above to go because the ship was full. How many times have people said "the weather seems to be easing, lets just get on and do this quick."? I'd make a bet that as a professional diver you yourself have heard it (and then winced in horror). It's only with hindsight that we can see the error. Everything the Captain did was the right call, from anchoring to motoring against the slipping anchor to hold position. It's just damn rotten luck that the engines finally gave up. If he had tried to make it out into open water the problems with the train cars breaking their restraints would have still sunk the ship. A terrible and sad loss of life.
I read the report about the accident and the changes implemented afterwards. At the time this was the only route to get across and the ship captains felt a huge responsibility to make the crossing knowing that people needed the crossing. But actually the captains were the only ones making the decision. They actually changed that so that the pressure to call off a crossing was dispersed to more than one person including land personnel who were looking at things like the weather. So you would have lost the bet on this one. But I can see where you are coming from. On other stories I've covered that are in the oil rigs, the management on land were involved in the decisions and they sent men out to die in the storms. I think it's a difference between getting passengers or not.
I don't blame the captain but I think that public transport ought to be decided by people other than the captain so as not to leave a decision on one person. Public transportation should be regulated with the use of agencies tasked with reporting on current weather and ones that oversee all of public transit so as not to leave the decision to the captain. So sad RIP to the victims and 💗 to the families.
Kinda, I would always leave the final decision to the person on scene but there should be systems in place as checks before it gets to the captain. Sometimes a system can give you the go ahead but actually on site you might decide against their recommended action. It's generally how the military works where the commander in site has final say in operations because they have information that the commander possible hundreds of miles away may not have but that also requires the off site command to provide as much information as possible such as in this case the typhoon slowing down and not actually passing to be passed onto the commander that is on site. I do believe this is actually the most common system nowadays in many fields.
weird note, her sister Taisetsu Maru would go on to have an incredible career in Greece and Cyprus under the names Aeolis, and eventually SOL Phyrene, but was sold to a group which later was targeted for an attack and was severely damaged by what was likely a limpet mine, eventually being sold to a Yugoslav Group whom used it during the war, before it allegedly was sunk by either ANOTHER mine or a bombing as it was being used as a weapons depot (again, allegedly) as for the OTHER two sister ships, nobody knows the fate but it was almost certainly scrap sadly
not quite sure of the definition of sister ships... (this seems to be quite a different vessel), but Takachiho Maru still seems to be in operational under the name, off south Taiwan (mostly as a postal cargo ship between Keelung and the Tong-Zhau in the southern Islands)
The year before, there was a disaster in the Irish Sea between Scotland and Northern Ireland - also during a storm Over 130 people died when the Princess Victoria sank in Jan 1953 The wireless operator David Broadfoot was posthumously awarded the George Cross (Britain's highest civilian honour) for his bravery in trying to send out messages even when surrounded by water
I'm a little confused, is a train ferry really necessary? Why not just bring people to a train station with a smaller ferry and they can get on a train at the destination?
Not strictly necessary. But whenever you have to get people and cargo off one mode of transport and onto another there is a significant cost in time and resources. Unloading, transport from one to another, load. Or disembark check out, check in etc. It all adds up.
Its less about the people and more about cargo, specially the stuff that goes inside boxcars commonly known as "break bulk" cargo. Break bulk can take several hours to be transloaded from inside the boxcars, to the docks, wiched aboard and accomodated in the cargo holds. By having the train go into the ship you turn the 6 hour transload into an hour at max car spotting and chaining op.
At my last property, I had a sugar cane train ferry pile driven into the bank outside my house. It had been there an age and apparently ran aground in mist and what ended up being my land was the bend in the river. We charged folk 10% (roughly) of their catch to fish off the wreck. Also fun to occasionally appear at the top of the (8 metre) cliff above the wreck when the tour boats came through😂 Train ferries used to be reasonably common
This tragedy also focused on the rather poor management of Japan National Railways at the time, who owned the boat that capsized in this storm. This accident forced JNR to be much more cautious in Tsugaru Strait crossings, particularly during typhoon season and winter storms coming in from Siberia.
There’s might be residual steam after snuffing but I too doubt it would be enough for meaningful manoeuvrability. There was a Larne Stranraer ferry that was lost similarly in the fifties.
You can steer a vessel without the engine, by ballasting the back or front you can decide what side turns in to the wind. But my main question is, what psycho would try and anker down in a storm? Its common for ships anchored to lift it and go for deeper waters in a storm as waves tend to rise out in shallow waters and the currents multiply. I'd say, hide behind the island in deep waters and if that is not an option, risk the paint job and go in port.
I have a 1950's copy of Nicholls Seamanship And Nautical Knowledge which goes into detail about shallow water anchoring during bad weather. It's recommended to perform it with two anchors splayed out in a 90* arc in front of the ship, each anchor pointing 45* port and starboard of the apparent wind. This is still taught today in yachtmaster qualifications etc. So it wasn't the decision of a "psycho", it was in fact the decision that was in line with merchant marine qualifications and regulations. Both of the period, and today.
@@theoriginaldylangreene just because it can be done, doesn't mean that it's the best option - I believe that's what the OP was trying to say. Also I may be wrong but I got the impression from the video that the ferry only had one anchor, which is a wildly different scenario from two anchors at a right angle to each other; not to mention that they weren't able to set the anchor. At that point, if engine power were still available, then returning to port seems like the best option, but of course this is all academic with the benefit of hindsight.
Anyone Can Become An Admistrator For Wikipedia So With That People Sometimes Change An Article To What They Believe Is Correct Information When It Is Not.
Weird, I just watched a video by thedoctormedic where he pronounced archipelago the same way and wondered if that's just how it's pronounced other places, as he doesn't pronounce Hawaii like most Americans from the 48. Then I switched to your video and you pronounce it the same way as him. Guess that's Pacific pronunciation. None of this matters, I just want to comment to feed your videos to the algorithm.
Someone call Bruce Rivers..... Best grab Michael too, this is an extreme case. I remember watching this on MTV in 1998 but back then we thought it was just comedy, I need to file an emotional damages case.
What an absolutely hideous way to die, trapped inside a train, inside a flooding ferry that then capsized! The terror those poor people went through before drowning is unimaginable.
I love this channel, how the stories are told, the research, the details, everything, BUT it really bothers me to convert every numbers he says to metric system. I literally stop the video and google it. You don’t have to say the number in metric system, just put some text in the edition or something. Anyway, I love your content.
Only ~250 people survived this tragic incident Also can you do a timeline but without talking so like an animation of the sinking pls I would love that
When a co-founder of Wikipedia comes out and immediately gets smeared and attacked for stating the obvious I tend to believe him. After watching some, I guess experiments is the word, proving his points I go from tending to completely agreeing that his creation has been hijacked as he put it and not to be trusted.
@@voimatuomasjukka4900 he won't say what he thinks the "agenda" is because it's complete bullshit and he's just trying to be overly cryptic, don't worry about it
This story bears nothing in common with the Titanic. It didn’t claim to be unsinkable; it wasn’t on its maiden voyage; it wasn’t the Captain’s last voyage; it didn’t sink in calm seas to lie lost seemingly forever on the ocean floor; it didn’t have special compartments for enormously wealthy people but good accommodations for those in 3rd class. You didn’t name it the Titanic of Japan, of course, but loss of life is the ONLY similarity. It goes to show how famous the Titanic is - and with good reason. 😮
The zoom transitions are too much man, less is more and slow them down, I don't want to get an epileptic fit. Way too many quick cuts & generic images. Otherwise content is decent.
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Its so subtle, I didn't realize how much you put into sound design and atmosphere until I watched with headphones. You can really set a mood.
I've got a great guy in audio. He hasn't worked on all the videos but the ones with great audio are his.
I didn't realize the background sounds until you mentioned it. I replayed with my earphones. Huh. Wow, it sure makes the video so much better than my original thoughts. Thanks.
so true, these videos really engage me and sound is part of it
@Gizmos_and_stuff 👍🏻
amazing story and unheard of outside Japan I imagine.
bro, your channel is criminally underrated. I love your work, I've been subscribed for a while. I cannot express how happy I am to see an in depth analysis of nautical events. Coming from someone who's family has been sailing for centuries.
Thanks. I really appreciate that. I think for the number of videos and the 6 months I've been posting, the channel is doing pretty well. Some of my videos get way more views than other bigger channels. It just takes time to grow.
Another channel that provides the perspective of the sailors on these disasters is called "Maritime Horrors" and these 2 channels can perfectly cover events if they happen to overlap
Agreed
You are correct. I just found him this week. Been binge watching when off work.
Agree 100%. Even the centuries part funny enough! My paternal family has been sailing since at the very least back to the late 1600s.
I wish I knew more about some of the footage he showed of typhoon sailing. The sea truly is a marvelous thing to behold, I’m just in awe looking at those huge waves shaking steel giants.
Great content and cool presentation..subscribed
Thanks. Welcome aboard
Many years ago I took a ferry (cars, lorries & passengers)from Zeebrugge, Belgium to Dover, UK. A storm worsened to force 8. A usual 4 hour journey turned into 9+ hours as it took 4 hours to get into port because of conditions & other vessels. About 75% of people got seasick & the smell was very bad & the toilets unusable. That is an experience I never want to repeat, I would rather be delayed by a day than take the risk on a ro-ro ferry they are death traps if something goes wrong.
I see the term force when describing storms but here in Texas I've not heard the term before. We use the cat system for hurricanes but I'm wondering if you know if the force system is used for something different or if they are 2 different systems of rating storms?
@@mattiOTX Look up the Beaufort Scale. Been in use for nearly 200 years & used by mariners all over the globe
@@zetectic7968 will do, thanks for the info. I'm just not well informed on the scale. Here in SE Texas on land we get a lot of storms but we tend to pay attention to things once they hit tropical storm status before moving into the cat system.
New Zealander here, I remember many horrific ferry crossings between South and North island when I was young.
I was on a ferry from Newcastle to Holland it was an overnight deal just after the sunset a storm hit and it was brutal...
Fast forward about 3 months now in Istanbul a ferry to a small island and once again a storm hit, the surge was so strong that the ferry actually bent in the midsection the keel was straining so hard from forces that the noise it made was deafening.
I’m a new subscriber and I love your videos! And that says a lot because I NEVER stray away from the content creators I’ve followed for years. But I can’t get enough of your storytelling. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks. I'm on holiday until beginning of Jan so no videos over Xmas new year. I haven't been home to South Africa since covid so I've brought my son to meet his family. Busy researching new stories. See you when I get back
Your channel only have 9k subs???? It deserves waaaaay more
Thanks
@@waterlinestories Stop using random, unrelated film footage. How many ships did you show in addition to the one? you displayed video of so many different ships i paused it to thumbs down and search for a better video, on the same topic. Nothing pisses me off more than an "educational" video using fake footage that is not accurate at all. You showed at least a down ships here and only one was real, but the viewer doesn;t know what to trust,
Ok fair point. I'll have to think about how to differentiate between actual images of the ship in question and those that demonstrate the point I'm trying to make.
Really great content brother! I discovered a whole genre of fascinating stories I didn't even know I would enjoy. Please continue making content bro!!!! 👍👍👍
Thanks. I appreciate that
You've got an outstanding tragic story telling channel! Despite it being morbid, the way you account what happens during these disasters is amazing and you've given some of the more detailed and easy to understand descriptions in your videos.
Keep it up friend I think you'll have a lot more subscribers by summer. Just dont restrict yourself and upload any recounting you see fit :)
Thanks.
Could I ask you to clarify what you mean about not restricting myself and upload any recounting I see fit?
I'm always interested in constructive feedback
@@waterlinestories That worked out well.
Thanks for the upload. I had never heard of this tragedy until now.
Well covered, I visited Hakodate many years ago and visited the exhibition that memorializes this tragedy. If anyone ever visits Japan, well worth making the journey to Hakodate, a very interesting place with lots of history.
Good presentation. And I’m enjoying seeing your number of subscribers rising with each video. Nearly 8k, plenty more to come I’m sure.
Thanks. I certainly hope so.
Yes we’re hoping to gain more stories and content to build our channel as well.
@@ausdredgeanddive my email address is on my about page. So me a message so we can connect. I'm happy to help out if I can. It's always good to have a network with similar interests.
It was a bad presentation because he used random, unrelated film footage the whole time, making it hard for viewers to determine what was real or not. Trash video does not deserve subscribers.
@@DizzyDad I couldn’t care less what you think. Nor do the other 9.61k subscribers, at the time of writing this.
Didn't know I had a passion for stories from the ocean and diving until now! Was completed hooked when listening to your narration and thoughts. Please continue to include metric measurements, along side the imperial, for us here in Pretoria to follow along. Thanks for the awesome content!
Ha ha. I’m from Joburg
I must admit I wasn’t sure what to make of this major change in your presentation. However…much to my relief, any and all doubts and/or discomfort initially felt about your grey sweater were allayed when I quickly realized it’s how you communicate and narrate the events/incidents that makes your content so compelling..not in what clothes you do it.
All that is to say I genuinely appreciate your work. You seem to always take the utmost of care to respectfully and ethically cover whatever event/incident. While keeping true to facts, illustrating the often harrowing, anxiety inducing scenarios taking the viewer right into the moment of disaster. A skill I deeply respect and appreciate. 🙏🤓
✌️🖖
Thanks I appreciate that. Interesting to hear that the clothes are noticed. Even better to hear that my style of delivery is what counts. 👍🏻
When the captain realized he wasn't going forward and couldn't really return, would it have been possible to call for a couple of tugs to at least get it back to a more sheltered part of the bay where maybe the anchor would really take hold or the water was even more shallow and closer to land in case the passengers had to abandon ship and maybe swim a bit?
I'd never heard about this so thank you for the video.
😀👍🏻
Love your channel man, please keep it up like this
Thanks. I’ll do my best
Can you make more videos please? Thanks.
Will do. They take time
Dang im bummed, i found your channel yesterday... binged everything you've put out and this is my ladt one. Glad i stumbled on your channel though. I subbed. This channel definitely deserves more subs
Cool channel I really hope you grow!
Thanks I appreciate that
Historical tense overload!
I would have cancelled the trip once I heard "hurricane". People hate me for being overly cautious. It's amazing what some humans try to get away with to move forward. 1 or 2 days out of my lifetime isn't too bad. Walk around speak with others who are also waiting. Make the delay fun.
An excellent telling of this event. So mamy did not survive...I wish everyone had gotten off. Still so many questions...😔
I don't think that there was anything the Captain could have done here, apart from getting fired for not going at all. I expect he was getting pressure from above to go because the ship was full.
How many times have people said "the weather seems to be easing, lets just get on and do this quick."?
I'd make a bet that as a professional diver you yourself have heard it (and then winced in horror).
It's only with hindsight that we can see the error. Everything the Captain did was the right call, from anchoring to motoring against the slipping anchor to hold position. It's just damn rotten luck that the engines finally gave up. If he had tried to make it out into open water the problems with the train cars breaking their restraints would have still sunk the ship.
A terrible and sad loss of life.
Yes I think that plays a huge role. Thanks for your thoughts
@@waterlinestories Cheers! Out of interest, would I have won or lost the bet? 😆
I read the report about the accident and the changes implemented afterwards.
At the time this was the only route to get across and the ship captains felt a huge responsibility to make the crossing knowing that people needed the crossing. But actually the captains were the only ones making the decision. They actually changed that so that the pressure to call off a crossing was dispersed to more than one person including land personnel who were looking at things like the weather.
So you would have lost the bet on this one. But I can see where you are coming from. On other stories I've covered that are in the oil rigs, the management on land were involved in the decisions and they sent men out to die in the storms.
I think it's a difference between getting passengers or not.
@@waterlinestories Good research cheers. I completely agree then, sadly it was all on the Captain. Great videos, thanks!
fire me, I am not going out into a Typhoon.
Why everybody stayed on the boat didn't make sense to me. It sounded to me like nobody attempted to get on lifeboats and leave
I really feel for the captain, he did the right things but just got absolutely screwed by nature.
Great content #111
I don't blame the captain but I think that public transport ought to be decided by people other than the captain so as not to leave a decision on one person. Public transportation should be regulated with the use of agencies tasked with reporting on current weather and ones that oversee all of public transit so as not to leave the decision to the captain. So sad RIP to the victims and 💗 to the families.
Yes exactly. I think a lot of what you've said had become the standard for today. Certainly Inn the larger routes.
Kinda, I would always leave the final decision to the person on scene but there should be systems in place as checks before it gets to the captain. Sometimes a system can give you the go ahead but actually on site you might decide against their recommended action. It's generally how the military works where the commander in site has final say in operations because they have information that the commander possible hundreds of miles away may not have but that also requires the off site command to provide as much information as possible such as in this case the typhoon slowing down and not actually passing to be passed onto the commander that is on site. I do believe this is actually the most common system nowadays in many fields.
weird note, her sister Taisetsu Maru would go on to have an incredible career in Greece and Cyprus under the names Aeolis, and eventually SOL Phyrene, but was sold to a group which later was targeted for an attack and was severely damaged by what was likely a limpet mine, eventually being sold to a Yugoslav Group whom used it during the war, before it allegedly was sunk by either ANOTHER mine or a bombing as it was being used as a weapons depot (again, allegedly)
as for the OTHER two sister ships, nobody knows the fate but it was almost certainly scrap sadly
not quite sure of the definition of sister ships... (this seems to be quite a different vessel), but
Takachiho Maru still seems to be in operational under the name, off south Taiwan (mostly as a postal cargo ship between Keelung and the Tong-Zhau in the southern Islands)
The year before, there was a disaster in the Irish Sea between Scotland and Northern Ireland - also during a storm
Over 130 people died when the Princess Victoria sank in Jan 1953
The wireless operator David Broadfoot was posthumously awarded the George Cross (Britain's highest civilian honour) for his bravery in trying to send out messages even when surrounded by water
Surprisingly well done video.🦊🚬 kudos
You should do one on the Canadian steamship The Empress of Ireland. Very tragic circumnavigate.
Thanks, I'll put it on the list
I'm a little confused, is a train ferry really necessary? Why not just bring people to a train station with a smaller ferry and they can get on a train at the destination?
Not strictly necessary. But whenever you have to get people and cargo off one mode of transport and onto another there is a significant cost in time and resources.
Unloading, transport from one to another, load. Or disembark check out, check in etc. It all adds up.
Its less about the people and more about cargo, specially the stuff that goes inside boxcars commonly known as "break bulk" cargo.
Break bulk can take several hours to be transloaded from inside the boxcars, to the docks, wiched aboard and accomodated in the cargo holds.
By having the train go into the ship you turn the 6 hour transload into an hour at max car spotting and chaining op.
At my last property, I had a sugar cane train ferry pile driven into the bank outside my house. It had been there an age and apparently ran aground in mist and what ended up being my land was the bend in the river. We charged folk 10% (roughly) of their catch to fish off the wreck. Also fun to occasionally appear at the top of the (8 metre) cliff above the wreck when the tour boats came through😂
Train ferries used to be reasonably common
This tragedy also focused on the rather poor management of Japan National Railways at the time, who owned the boat that capsized in this storm. This accident forced JNR to be much more cautious in Tsugaru Strait crossings, particularly during typhoon season and winter storms coming in from Siberia.
There’s might be residual steam after snuffing but I too doubt it would be enough for meaningful manoeuvrability.
There was a Larne Stranraer ferry that was lost similarly in the fifties.
You can steer a vessel without the engine, by ballasting the back or front you can decide what side turns in to the wind.
But my main question is, what psycho would try and anker down in a storm? Its common for ships anchored to lift it and go for deeper waters in a storm as waves tend to rise out in shallow waters and the currents multiply. I'd say, hide behind the island in deep waters and if that is not an option, risk the paint job and go in port.
Yep good point.
I have a 1950's copy of Nicholls Seamanship And Nautical Knowledge which goes into detail about shallow water anchoring during bad weather. It's recommended to perform it with two anchors splayed out in a 90* arc in front of the ship, each anchor pointing 45* port and starboard of the apparent wind.
This is still taught today in yachtmaster qualifications etc.
So it wasn't the decision of a "psycho", it was in fact the decision that was in line with merchant marine qualifications and regulations. Both of the period, and today.
That captain was ready to go kamakaze from the start. Not a good captain. Zero honor
@@theoriginaldylangreene just because it can be done, doesn't mean that it's the best option - I believe that's what the OP was trying to say. Also I may be wrong but I got the impression from the video that the ferry only had one anchor, which is a wildly different scenario from two anchors at a right angle to each other; not to mention that they weren't able to set the anchor. At that point, if engine power were still available, then returning to port seems like the best option, but of course this is all academic with the benefit of hindsight.
I feel like Fuso deserves that title far more
Curious to know which of those vessels was the actual ferry?
Anyone Can Become An Admistrator For Wikipedia So With That People Sometimes Change An Article To What They Believe Is Correct Information When It Is Not.
Weird, I just watched a video by thedoctormedic where he pronounced archipelago the same way and wondered if that's just how it's pronounced other places, as he doesn't pronounce Hawaii like most Americans from the 48. Then I switched to your video and you pronounce it the same way as him. Guess that's Pacific pronunciation. None of this matters, I just want to comment to feed your videos to the algorithm.
Someone call Bruce Rivers..... Best grab Michael too, this is an extreme case. I remember watching this on MTV in 1998 but back then we thought it was just comedy, I need to file an emotional damages case.
What an absolutely hideous way to die, trapped inside a train, inside a flooding ferry that then capsized!
The terror those poor people went through before drowning is unimaginable.
I love this channel, how the stories are told, the research, the details, everything, BUT it really bothers me to convert every numbers he says to metric system. I literally stop the video and google it. You don’t have to say the number in metric system, just put some text in the edition or something. Anyway, I love your content.
Only ~250 people survived this tragic incident
Also can you do a timeline but without talking so like an animation of the sinking pls I would love that
Those poor people.😢
Crashing into cement pier 4:52 !
How do these people going through this 700 foot deep tunnel not need deco time?
It’s open to air in both sides so their is no difference in pressure
That very first picture of the Titanic is WILDLY inaccurate. It barley rose to an angle of 20 degrees before breaking...
Can you please d do the actual titanic next?
Have you attempted to edit the Wikipedia page to correct it?
You have to be a member of Wikipedia in order to be able to edit it and wear a tiny hat.
@@garrysekelli6776 No kidding you have to join to edit. It's not hard to do.
😳Nah this is more fun.
@@waterlinestories I enjoy your videos so please keep making them.
Will do
When a co-founder of Wikipedia comes out and immediately gets smeared and attacked for stating the obvious I tend to believe him. After watching some, I guess experiments is the word, proving his points I go from tending to completely agreeing that his creation has been hijacked as he put it and not to be trusted.
Wikipedia serves a very specific agenda, and if you read between the lines, it becomes obvious.
@@EddyOfTheMaelstrom and said agenda is?
@@voimatuomasjukka4900 Agenda 2030. Do your own research
@@voimatuomasjukka4900 he won't say what he thinks the "agenda" is because it's complete bullshit and he's just trying to be overly cryptic, don't worry about it
Cool story guy. Maybe put it on a video that actually has something to do with Wikipedia. So what he mentions wiki is wrong about the order of events.
OMG its not even 3 min into the video...
I already predict where it is going for... oh god... am I right?! ohhh geee
They are a lot like the Great Lakes rail car ships.
Oh god the idea of being on a train ON A BOAT!?! No. Great job with the vid though!!!
AI is the new Vanilla Ice
Hi. Just found your channel and was impressed by your content.. I'm rubbish at maths, how many survived? Thx
You aren't able to subtract one number from another on a calculator?
Do you believe the second mate's testimony?
This story bears nothing in common with the Titanic. It didn’t claim to be unsinkable; it wasn’t on its maiden voyage; it wasn’t the Captain’s last voyage; it didn’t sink in calm seas to lie lost seemingly forever on the ocean floor; it didn’t have special compartments for enormously wealthy people but good accommodations for those in 3rd class. You didn’t name it the Titanic of Japan, of course, but loss of life is the ONLY similarity. It goes to show how famous the Titanic is - and with good reason. 😮
The mv Estonia had the same flaws
Did you not learn past tense in school?
Interesting story, but spoiled by your use of images from completely different ships.
The zoom transitions are too much man, less is more and slow them down, I don't want to get an epileptic fit. Way too many quick cuts & generic images. Otherwise content is decent.
Yikes! An “Ark a pa lay go” lol butchered that word my boy, it is a weird word to say if ya never seen it before … “ Arka’ pel’ ago’ “ 👍
Well That's how we pronounce it in South Africa. Tomatoes tomahtoes and all those various pronunciations around the world. 👍🏻
Stop calling sunken ships ‘the titanic of something’ its annoying
The Japanic