Seriously, thank you for this video. This was the first one I found that actually managed to showcase what it's like using this device on a daily basis and in different situations. On the bed or on the couch, on your lap, picking it up with one hand, using it while lying down.. Additionally you didn't gloss over any annoyances or disadvantages compared to other devices, you just straight up told us your impressions. I appreciate that. Really, a well rounded review that applies to real life situations much more than those reviews of many glorified tech sites.
+New Tant man! thank you so much for the support. this is exactly the type of review videos i aim to create. i'm glad you liked. i find the same problem with some reviews as you say, people just kind of go through the product without having to put it to a good use first, mostly just kind of shallowly 'testing' it. but then their production quality will be through the roof ha. so i find its a balance
I agree with @Newtant. I just received my SP4 and was looking for awesome review videos to watch on it while I play around with it. TH-cam brought me to your video and I'm glad it did. This is a great video, my friend. Thank you for making it and sharing it. I'll be using my SP4 in different orientations, locations, and positions and I'm glad you covered that.
I have very painful experience with Surface pro-4. It started heating up from the second month of purchase and had to be replaced twice due to screen issues. Screen freeze is a major issue for this device. Think before purchase.
Surface pro 4 much much better with recent updates ( oct 2016 ) much better battery life ( at last !!!) Nifty win10 features too I fear Apple is really being left behind
This is the best review of any product ever. Seriously, ever. For the 1st time, I felt like someone was reviewing the product for me on a personal basis as a favour. Thanks, subscribing. By the way, the multi tasking video at the end should be used by microsoft as a part of their advertisement
Fantastic review. I especially appreciated the small nuances you included, like how the weight in tablet mode is easily overcome by using the kickstand.
A well rounded, review and quite apt. This was exactly what I was looking for with respect to ergonomics of use. The demo videos of the multitasking, was cool. I think it should be good enough for casual gaming such as asphalt 7 and halo at lower specs..
+Eeshan Choudhuri thansk a lot eeshan. glad you liked the multitasking part, it was fun to make. yeh they can definitely play those lighter games at low to medium settings. although i always feel gaming should be done on a desktop for the best experience. take care!
Absolutely Correct! Gaming should be done on a machine with tech specs dedicated to handle it. I am a Mac user, somehow I find the OS talks to Hardware quite well. But would also like to own a portable workhorse, for normal computing as well as casual entertainment. Apple though brought out an iPad Pro, but to me it looked like an iPad on steroids. I would have considered it, if it had the feature of switching between Mac OS and iOS like interface, in its iPad pro tablet just like surface pro 4 does.
its true i was able to type with it on my lap at a waiting area no problem. Hand written notes aka onenote was amazing to use during class time with various colors to choose from
I am loving my iPad Pro 12.9, however I am seriously looking into getting a MS Surface Pro 5 (IF it has USB-C Thunderbolt 3) Because both devices work GREAT together. Surface Pro 5 for heavy office work - iPad Pro can actually act as a second screen via USB Surface Pro 5 can have iTunes installed - iPad Pro can sync with the device and my library is always with me Suface Pro 5 can charge my iPad Pro. - iPad Pro can play my music videos- while it frees up system resources on the Suface Pro 5 to other intensive things. When I take the Surface Pro 5 home I can plug it into a external graphics enclosure and play Star Craft 2, XCOM 2 or Killer Instinct/Mortal Kombat/Fallout 4 at HIGH settings. It's the convenience of carrying a fairly light device by being a portable office and a games machine.
Great review! I love how you made it a point to demonstrate everyday utility and quirks rather than rattle off a quick checklist like it's an afterthought. Thanks!
This was a really good review!! You addressed and commented on all the common and everyday uses of the device, especially those such as use on a lap which made me second guess the device. I am still yet to choose between a surface pro 4 and surface book for school, but thank you for this review well done!
+Sarah Bonacci thansk sarah your welcome! nice, either device would be great, i haven't tried the surface book, but i dont' like that the battery life is so poor when used just as a tablet.
Hi, this might be a silly question but do you have to charge the keyboard? Does it have a separate battery in it? Or do you need to have it plugged into the surface in order to charge it? Thanks.
+THEKINGSLAPPA The keyboard case neither have a separate battery nor you have to charge it. It has magnetic connectors which connects to the surface and boom just attach it and start using it.
thanks for showing us what its like to use it day to day for an example like how it would be placed on your lap or using it in bed. I was skeptical that it would not be stable in those places but youve shown what it looks like great review!
I just ordered the Surface Pro 4, it was more affordable than the new one. Thank you for the review. You made me feel more comfortable in my decision to getting this computer.
Thanks for great review, looking for small machine for programming, watching movies, listening to music and working with MS Office application, I saw that you have a Macbook, what would you advise me: Macbook pro of Surface pro 4??
What did you get? I'm thinking of getting a Surface Pro for programing too, so it would be nice to know what people think of it as a programing device for when you're on the go
Watching this review really makes me want one. That pen and One Note look fantastic for note taking in class. I'm looking for a laptop that its main function would be school work.
+Joseph McDade hey joseph, yeah man its pretty tough to beat that combo for note taking. palm rejection was pretty much perfect too, it does take a little getting used to using the whole thing, but once you get a feel for how it works you can really start to fly around.
I take it you would recommend it for students? I was leaning to a laptop at around half the price, but ease of mobility and the pen makes this look perfect for school.
+Joseph McDade From experience myself, who has a Surface 3 with Pen. It is by far the best I've ever used on a device and that's a older model I have and it is great! I use it daily and it makes it so much easier to be able to take notes on a device, I love it.
I was expecting.. from your sentence.. I move to the couch.. that you'd just lay down but no.. you needed tech. I almost laughed my ass off. Sometimes that's me, and sometimes its not. But.. it just sounded like advertising :P
Thank you for the exceptional review! How do you like the SP4 or do you still use it now in 2017? I am considering on purchasing one for documentation/notes/PDF reading. I understand rumors of SP5 are floating, but I'm not sure when that will ever release.
Good review. Would you recommend this or an iPad Pro 12.9 for just a causal web browsing watching TH-cam videos, online bill pay, basic emails, resume updating. I have all other apple products, phones Apple TV, iPad, older MacBook Pro . Thanks
thanks...hmm....thats tough for me to answer, i mean i think this form factor does beat the ipad for the tasks you mention, but for light work it might be overkill and i think the battery life might annoy you in the long run. what about a newer macbook?
Matter of use set. I know family member that have made it their primary device on a daily basis. One of them have a MacBook Pro and pretty much doesn't use it. So I do have a valid point. It's all about how you use it
Hey man, I've never seen your videos before but great review because I want a computer for programming, TH-cam, and light gaming. Thanks to you, I think I've found that computer.
Great review. I just bought one today, SP4 from JB hifi and am setting it up. An update began and I clicked yes, then it said previously updated 406 days ago. A bit confused as it's brand new from the store. Have you encountered this before? Cheers
You get 7-8 hours of battery life?!!! I keep on hearing people getting between 3-6 hours, which has been a deal breaker for me. But if that's the case for you I might consider buying it!
one of the better reviews i have watched. You did real life things.. could easily relate. Nice job. Im just starting my research on the surface pro. i have a macbook pro and an iPad mini. both are a few years old. I like the combo in the surface. would you say this is 60% laptop and 40% tablet? or more laptop like?
+Rodney Ochs appreciate that rodney. i think its definitely the 60/40 as you say. the only thing is with the lack of apps if you are used to an ipad mini, so just think about what things you actually use on that vs what would be available for the surface because for me, i still used my ipad, although i mostly game on it. so in some sense the surface is a little more laptop like but if you are just watching vids/email/websurfing, then the surface coverts to a tablet nicely. and for those things its even better imo due to the stand. hope that helps
Hey great vid! Just wanted to point out that in case you want a more silent experience watching videos and browsing, try out the Edge browser. I'm guessing that you're using chrome which puts the CPU under load a lot more than it should compared to Edge. I've tried this and it has been more silent.
I'm gonna start college in September, and I'm thinking of to buy Surface Pro for classes and works that I have to do during my college years. I'm a handnote person, I need to take notes by writing, not typing on a laptop. So I thought of buying this could be very easy and quick for everything, sincee everything will be on my computer and I'll get to access everything (+ no paper wasting! that sounds very awesome, I take sloppy notes so I waste too much paper). I don't want something huge and heavy either. Surface Pro looks like the device I need but I'm still not sure. I'm between Surface, iPad Pro and Macbook Air (or something), cuz all of them have almost the same prices. I want the perfect device to ease myself throughout my years! Any comments?
Thanks for the awesome review! Would you recommend getting the i7 instead of the i5? Aside from work, looking to play games like Starcraft 2 and Hearthstone.
+lormunboy hi, gaming on the surface isn't really limited by the cpu its more the lack of a dedicated gpu, but with those games i think you'd be fine with the i5.
Your review is GREAT! Thank you for pointing out the ports, the expandable port is something I've forgotten. Also, on the plug, there's another USB port. My pen is paired, battery is replaced, BUT...I don't get a response when I click the top button. Don't know what happened as it worked before. Can you help? I ❣
Thanks for this. Very helpful. I am thinking of getting this for Medical School. It will be used for everything school related on-the-go, but I'm hoping to save up for a high performance gaming laptop (but would use it for anything that requires performance school-wise as well ) that will stay in my dorm. Do you think the fans would be an issue in a lecture hall or especially in a quiet clinic ward with only a Doctor and couple other students? (I'd be using it for notes with the pen and similar tasks in those situations)
+Circadium hey circadium, congrats on medical school. for your gaming laptop if its just gonna sit in your dorm room why not get a desktop for gaming, you could build a really nice one for probably half the price....as far as the fans, you won't hear them in a lecture hall above the ambient noise, maybe the person next to you but it shouldn't bother anyone, like i say its only when using video mostly (or gaming). as far as a quiet clinic ward, i mean people next to you will probably hear it if it kicks on full speed, i think you may want to test it in store first just to check, but i don't think it would be an issue.
Thanks! And I'll go try different apps in store to see how it goes, thanks for the tip too. I actually wanted my gamer to be portable too. There's a chance I'll be going back and forth a lot from home to school on weekends and holidays. I've never had a desktop so I guess I'm not used to the idea.
ah ok that makes sense then. you could look into bldg a computer from something like the corsair 380t case, still though yeh youd have to lug a monitor and kb and wires everytime you go home so probably not ideal. but desktop gaming is nice since the monitors can be big and you can get more for your money. good luck with school though
Hi there, I'm a high school student and looking to buy a laptop for school this year. Im tossing up between the surface pro 4 and the MacBook air. I would mostly use it for surfing the internet, watching videos, using programs such as word, powerpoint etc. and possibly editing videos. My most important needs are that it's light, has a long battery life to last a day at school, and is powerful enough to have many tabs open and a program such as word running in the background. I'm not very familiar with apple products or OS and in the past, iTunes has been very annoying for me. Im also thrown off by the macbook's very old fashioned design (non touchscreen, average display, thick bezels). I'm afraid that the Surface pro is more suited as a tablet and wont suffice as a laptop. Which would you recommend? Thank you very much
+Nyssa H hey nysaa, i would recommend for you the surface pro or the dell xps 13. i would definitely not get a macbook air at this point, they are long in the tooth (my gf has a recent one and its just not as good as either of these machines). i love windows 10 too, i think its the best OS you can get. does that help?
Thanks so much for replying! The xps is currently out of my price range, if it weren't, I would get it in a heartbeat. Would the sp4 easily last about 6-7 hours? I've heard that the sp3 is better with battery life due to less power, is that true? Thankyou
np, ok then. the sp4 will last you 6 hours for sure and closer to 7. the sp3 may be better for battery life i dont' know for sure but i could believe what you heard, if you do end up with sp3, just make sure you get the newer touch cover for the sp4, its way better, the sp3 may or may not have the infinitely variable stand either, meaning it clicks into place, will would be very inconvenient imo.
just ordered mine 128gb 4gb I5 for uni work (programming, one note etc. ) 4gb should be fine unless your rendering a ton of videos or gaming a bunch or any pretty heavy tasks
+Aarushi Vatsa Windows 10 is not a tablet OS, though Microsoft have implemented a tablet mode, its not as easy and quickly accessible compared to iOS which is a dedicated tablet OS. This is also apparent when you try to run Windows 10 in portrait mode..too thin and tall, you have to be really precise when selecting start menu or task bar settings bottom right. It's been admitted by several reviewers, though it is a great hybrid, you really will be using it mostly as laptop. You will notice that a lot of Windows tablets and some Android ones too, it is often presented in landscape. I am seriously considering getting a Surface Pro 5 (if it has USB-C thunderbolt) but 99% of the time as a laptop, while my iPad Pro pretty much does all tablet duties.
Definitely the apps. Microsoft store has practically nothing compare to the App store. If microsoft surface supports android apps than maybe I wouldn’t want an ipad.
I have a 2012 Macbook Pro and it lasts 4 hours, 5 max.. horrible stand by time and really heavy for university.. So I wanted to upgrade to a 2015 Macbook Pro since it lasts 11 hours but what is throwing me off is the weight.. Then I found this piece of magic but it looks so fragile like I will break it in the same day lol and the battery life doesn't seem great? Any advice?
+Meow Moosawi yeh battery life is admitedly not the greatest. may i suggest a dell xps 13? non touch screen version, battery life for days! and the best windows laptop there is imo.
+Eugenio Silverio hey eugenio, unfortunately no, its not a bluetooth keypad. you would have to get a seperate one to do that. the touchpad is powered from being attached to the screen.
I was wondering if your screen flexes when you use the pen? I've warrantied mine for it and the replacement is the same way so I'm wondering if it's just normal for them?
The replacement model I got isn't as bad as the original one and enough to be annoying but doesn't take much pressure at all for the screen to discolor
Hi, From a happy subscriber on another topic, any thoughts of extending Surface Pro 4 battery life? am desperate looking for powerbanks and hoping for power keyboards !! thx :)
I am thinking about buying it as a school computer where i mostly will be running programs as office and just browsing the web. Do you think the fan will make alot of noise just buy running these programs or is it just the heavier programs like photoshop etc.
hey pensio, honestly it was really only coming on during video play mostly, running your typical office programs didn't really make it turn on. premiere pro wouldn't even make it go on
+Liam Campbell well liam, do you not prefer one OS over another? (i absolutely enjoy windows more than os x). also if you are coming from a laptop i would almost recommend sticking with a laptop unless you have a specific reason for the surface pro? i love the dell xps 13 touchscreen.
It'd been a long time since I've used windows to be honest. (7-8 years) and my current macbook hasn't been working for about a year now and I'm starting to miss having to do everything on my phone. I think I'm going to have to hit up a computer shop and have a play with a few diffrent ones. Great review by the way and thank you for the quick reply.
yeh man i'd say if you are basically starting fresh, go with win10, easily best OS there is imo. def take a look at the dell xps, its my fav out of all the portables.
Hey guys i don't know wether I should get the IPad Pro or the surface book 4 I need a device for typing up essays, surfing the web, And watching videos.( I use google docs) 😀
Are you the same guy as ComputerTech? He also has your video, with the splash cut off and your voice modulated. He might have stolen your video, just letting you know.
+MrShkelo You can get power bank like this: www.amazon.com/20000mAh-Aluminum-Portable-Multi-Voltage-Technology/dp/B005NGLTZQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1426185698&sr=8-2&keywords=12v+power+bank then a cable like this: www.amazon.com/Xiemin-Portable-Charging-Charger-Microsoft/dp/B00O6UCGS4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1426185597&sr=1-2&keywords=surface+pro+3+power+cable Although I have not tried it, I researched it before when I was thinking of getting the SP3. Now that the SP4 is out, I'll be getting that and combine it with the cable and power bank above. Though they are rated for the SP3, they should work with the SP4.
no it does not, it only offers a trial version for their MS 365 office, which is a monthly subscription service. if you want microsoft office you pretty much have to buy it and its definitely a consideration in the cost of the machine. hope that helps....
i'm not sure, but if i was you i would just buy the actual 2013 version, its what i use, that way you not locked into a subscription and you forever have a legal version of office: www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.323023200?gclid=CjwKEAiA8JbEBRCz2szzhqrx7H8SJAC6FjXXIJfSkFOVfpgOfe1euIXjJ2TL5TTZBwGK-Qkq65_Y0xoCzH7w_wcB&VID=323801500&s_kwcid=AL!4249!3!87055761978!!!g!149006203698!&WT.mc_id=us_datafeed_pla_google_pointitsem_office&ef_id=V@YRnwAABZn1lylW:20170124002042:s
you may be able to but then you would cut off some of the film on the left and right so you wouldn't want to. or else get some kind of stretched look which you wouldnt' want either.
+Mark Bradley hey mark. i'm not sure what you mean about the 4 screens high....do you mean like at the top of the screen? you can, you just highlight the screen after you double click it, in other words anytime you take a screenshot you have to tap and drag the pen across the specific screen area to capture, it doesn't just take a full page screen shot. that make sense?
+Mark Bradley I believe you need a browser extension called OneNote Clipper, and it does allow you to capture an entire page, just a region, or just the text it perceives as the "article". In Microsoft's new Edge browser, only for Windows 10, you can mark up and draw on a web page and save/share that. When shared it should just be an overlay, so the website functions as normal underneath instead of it just being a screenshot.
+techfreshness NO, that is incorrect - look in your Pictures/Screencapture folder - you get a FULL screencap everytime (ALL attached displays included)
Three months ago, I bought a Microsoft Surface Pro 4 from Amazon, a brand new Surface Pro 4. After buying this Surface Pro 4, my job have been being effected a lot, and I think Microsoft should stop selling this kind of terrible laptop/tablet, recall all Surface Pro 4 they had sold, and they should test their products more carefully before sell it. My first Surface Pro 4 got dead touchscreen issue after a few week. The touch function didnt work totally after that, and I had to use it as a laptop. I tried many ways to resolved the problem, but it did not work, even reset to the factory mode. The battery of the device then stopped working too (plug-in, not charging), and it immediately turns off when I unplug the charge cable. I had contacted Microsoft Support Team in the USA, they asked me to return my SP4, then they would sent me a replacement. I had to spend 120USD for two-way shipping (Vietnam - USA), because they sent me a free shipping FeDex label use for US domestic only, and I'm living in Vietnam. I have just received the new Surface Pro 4 yesterday. But I'm very dissappointed, this second SP4 is a another faulty device, it has "phantom" touch problem. This happened right after I started the device for the first time, it's automatically touch the screen by itself every few minutes, at the same place (about 4cm on the right of the screen center). I have to disable touch drivers if I want to use this device. Yesterday, I contacted to Microsoft Support Team again, they tried to remote control my device, used some tool to fix it, but it's not work. They asked me to reset the device. I did, but the issue still occurs. I can't understand that why they did not check the quality of this replacement before sending. I'm sorry to say that Microsoft is trying to defraud me. They have no any solution for my case, so they asked me to contact Microsoft Support Team in Singapore for a replacement again. This morning, I contacted Microsoft Support Team in Singapore. Singapore Team told me that they could not send me a replacement because I'm living in Vietnam. They asked me to give them an address in Singapore that they can send a new replacement, or I have to fly to Singapore. Oh my God!!! Of course I denied, I dont want to spend any cent for this nightmare device!!! That's enough. Singapore Team gave me another solution, that I must send my device to US again, then they will refund, but they told me they were not sure how much I would receive. After talking with Singapore Team, I contact to US Team again (just 1 hour ago), but USA Team denied to process any refunds (even Singapore Team promised), the only solution they offer that is I have to return this nightmare device to US again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAA.... Crazy!!!!!! Be aware if you are thinking about buying a Microsoft Surface. Take my experience as a costly lession.
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Seriously, thank you for this video. This was the first one I found that actually managed to showcase what it's like using this device on a daily basis and in different situations. On the bed or on the couch, on your lap, picking it up with one hand, using it while lying down.. Additionally you didn't gloss over any annoyances or disadvantages compared to other devices, you just straight up told us your impressions. I appreciate that.
Really, a well rounded review that applies to real life situations much more than those reviews of many glorified tech sites.
+New Tant man! thank you so much for the support. this is exactly the type of review videos i aim to create. i'm glad you liked. i find the same problem with some reviews as you say, people just kind of go through the product without having to put it to a good use first, mostly just kind of shallowly 'testing' it. but then their production quality will be through the roof ha. so i find its a balance
I agree with @Newtant. I just received my SP4 and was looking for awesome review videos to watch on it while I play around with it. TH-cam brought me to your video and I'm glad it did. This is a great video, my friend. Thank you for making it and sharing it. I'll be using my SP4 in different orientations, locations, and positions and I'm glad you covered that.
I have very painful experience with Surface pro-4. It started heating up from the second month of purchase and had to be replaced twice due to screen issues. Screen freeze is a major issue for this device. Think before purchase.
Surface pro 4 much much better with recent updates
( oct 2016 ) much better battery life ( at last !!!)
Nifty win10 features too
I fear Apple is really being left behind
yep yep, great points. thank you!
This is the best review of any product ever. Seriously, ever. For the 1st time, I felt like someone was reviewing the product for me on a personal basis as a favour. Thanks, subscribing. By the way, the multi tasking video at the end should be used by microsoft as a part of their advertisement
excellent, really nice comments appreciate that and glad it helped, thanks also for subbinG!
Fantastic review. I especially appreciated the small nuances you included, like how the weight in tablet mode is easily overcome by using the kickstand.
A well rounded, review and quite apt. This was exactly what I was looking for with respect to ergonomics of use. The demo videos of the multitasking, was cool. I think it should be good enough for casual gaming such as asphalt 7 and halo at lower specs..
+Eeshan Choudhuri thansk a lot eeshan. glad you liked the multitasking part, it was fun to make. yeh they can definitely play those lighter games at low to medium settings. although i always feel gaming should be done on a desktop for the best experience. take care!
Absolutely Correct! Gaming should be done on a machine with tech specs dedicated to handle it. I am a Mac user, somehow I find the OS talks to Hardware quite well. But would also like to own a portable workhorse, for normal computing as well as casual entertainment.
Apple though brought out an iPad Pro, but to me it looked like an iPad on steroids. I would have considered it, if it had the feature of switching between Mac OS and iOS like interface, in its iPad pro tablet just like surface pro 4 does.
I didn't even know that surface pro 4 type cover has back light keyboard.
its true i was able to type with it on my lap at a waiting area no problem. Hand written notes aka onenote was amazing to use during class time with various colors to choose from
I am loving my iPad Pro 12.9, however I am seriously looking into getting a MS Surface Pro 5 (IF it has USB-C Thunderbolt 3)
Because both devices work GREAT together.
Surface Pro 5 for heavy office work - iPad Pro can actually act as a second screen via USB
Surface Pro 5 can have iTunes installed - iPad Pro can sync with the device and my library is always with me
Suface Pro 5 can charge my iPad Pro. - iPad Pro can play my music videos- while it frees up system resources on the Suface Pro 5 to other intensive things.
When I take the Surface Pro 5 home I can plug it into a external graphics enclosure and play Star Craft 2, XCOM 2 or Killer Instinct/Mortal Kombat/Fallout 4 at HIGH settings.
It's the convenience of carrying a fairly light device by being a portable office and a games machine.
Great review! I love how you made it a point to demonstrate everyday utility and quirks rather than rattle off a quick checklist like it's an afterthought. Thanks!
+Ne W thanks ne w! glad you enjoyed it
Great review! I don't have mine yet but wanted to check out all the features and this review was a great help. Thanks.
excellent, glad it helped
Great honest review the best I've seen for this product. keep it up! :)
After 3 hours...uve ended my woes pertaining to a regular user. Great review...Thankyou very much!😊
As many said before me, great review!
+Chris Fokjohn thanks chris
This was a really good review!! You addressed and commented on all the common and everyday uses of the device, especially those such as use on a lap which made me second guess the device. I am still yet to choose between a surface pro 4 and surface book for school, but thank you for this review well done!
+Sarah Bonacci thansk sarah your welcome! nice, either device would be great, i haven't tried the surface book, but i dont' like that the battery life is so poor when used just as a tablet.
Hi, this might be a silly question but do you have to charge the keyboard? Does it have a separate battery in it? Or do you need to have it plugged into the surface in order to charge it? Thanks.
+THEKINGSLAPPA The keyboard case neither have a separate battery nor you have to charge it. It has magnetic connectors which connects to the surface and boom just attach it and start using it.
+Muhaimen Ayyub thanks for answering
thanks for showing us what its like to use it day to day for an example like how it would be placed on your lap or using it in bed. I was skeptical that it would not be stable in those places but youve shown what it looks like great review!
I just ordered the Surface Pro 4, it was more affordable than the new one. Thank you for the review. You made me feel more comfortable in my decision to getting this computer.
awesome, so how you liking it so far?
Thanks for great review, looking for small machine for programming, watching movies, listening to music and working with MS Office application, I saw that you have a Macbook, what would you advise me: Macbook pro of Surface pro 4??
Petroos Abdollahian I would recommend the surface pro 4
What did you get?
I'm thinking of getting a Surface Pro for programing too, so it would be nice to know what people think of it as a programing device for when you're on the go
Love the color of that type cover never seen it before that's Deff the one I'm going with
nice yeh that teal is sweet
Watching this review really makes me want one. That pen and One Note look fantastic for note taking in class. I'm looking for a laptop that its main function would be school work.
+Joseph McDade hey joseph, yeah man its pretty tough to beat that combo for note taking. palm rejection was pretty much perfect too, it does take a little getting used to using the whole thing, but once you get a feel for how it works you can really start to fly around.
I take it you would recommend it for students? I was leaning to a laptop at around half the price, but ease of mobility and the pen makes this look perfect for school.
+Joseph McDade From experience myself, who has a Surface 3 with Pen. It is by far the best I've ever used on a device and that's a older model I have and it is great! I use it daily and it makes it so much easier to be able to take notes on a device, I love it.
When I would touch scroll PDF's and Word it would be jittery. Is yours that way? Especially compared to my iPad.
awesome as usual! been looking at one for a while
+DieselDan09 thanks, as usual! i really liked it, do you use a regular laptop now?
I was expecting.. from your sentence.. I move to the couch.. that you'd just lay down but no.. you needed tech. I almost laughed my ass off. Sometimes that's me, and sometimes its not. But.. it just sounded like advertising :P
Now this is truly call review. Like this!
+Christara Sp thanks a lot!
Thank you for the exceptional review! How do you like the SP4 or do you still use it now in 2017? I am considering on purchasing one for documentation/notes/PDF reading. I understand rumors of SP5 are floating, but I'm not sure when that will ever release.
Good review. Would you recommend this or an iPad Pro 12.9 for just a causal web browsing watching TH-cam videos, online bill pay, basic emails, resume updating. I have all other apple products, phones Apple TV, iPad, older MacBook Pro . Thanks
thanks...hmm....thats tough for me to answer, i mean i think this form factor does beat the ipad for the tasks you mention, but for light work it might be overkill and i think the battery life might annoy you in the long run. what about a newer macbook?
now i know what the surface is,defo need one.great video and thanks for introducing the surface 4 good job.....thanks
How many hours is the battery life?
I ordered the i7 version for photoshop/lightroom : it was a good idea?
Matter of use set. I know family member that have made it their primary device on a daily basis. One of them have a MacBook Pro and pretty much doesn't use it. So I do have a valid point. It's all about how you use it
Hey man, I've never seen your videos before but great review because I want a computer for programming, TH-cam, and light gaming. Thanks to you, I think I've found that computer.
excellent!
Looks good, all the students at my school will get a surface pro so I'm really looking forward to it :)
Fantastic Review! Great work and info! Looking forward to more reviews....
awesome, thanks!
Great review. I just bought one today, SP4 from JB hifi and am setting it up. An update began and I clicked yes, then it said previously updated 406 days ago. A bit confused as it's brand new from the store. Have you encountered this before? Cheers
You get 7-8 hours of battery life?!!! I keep on hearing people getting between 3-6 hours, which has been a deal breaker for me. But if that's the case for you I might consider buying it!
toni samaniego depends on the resolution and brightness, i always set mine to 1080p at 50% brightness
Very amazingly nice in-depth video. Good job.
I really like this review of Surface Pro 4 ,well done!
Excellent review!!!
Should I get the Suface pro 4 or a Mac book??? Ughh I can't decide
I tried both. i like the surface better.
AMAZING REVIEW. Thank you.
one of the better reviews i have watched. You did real life things.. could easily relate. Nice job. Im just starting my research on the surface pro. i have a macbook pro and an iPad mini. both are a few years old. I like the combo in the surface. would you say this is 60% laptop and 40% tablet? or more laptop like?
+Rodney Ochs appreciate that rodney. i think its definitely the 60/40 as you say. the only thing is with the lack of apps if you are used to an ipad mini, so just think about what things you actually use on that vs what would be available for the surface because for me, i still used my ipad, although i mostly game on it. so in some sense the surface is a little more laptop like but if you are just watching vids/email/websurfing, then the surface coverts to a tablet nicely. and for those things its even better imo due to the stand. hope that helps
Hey great vid! Just wanted to point out that in case you want a more silent experience watching videos and browsing, try out the Edge browser. I'm guessing that you're using chrome which puts the CPU under load a lot more than it should compared to Edge. I've tried this and it has been more silent.
+Paolo Bituin hey thanks paolo. ah yes, great point. unfortunately i don't love Edge!
Great review, I had to settle for a Surface 3, but even that is great for what I use it for.
+Montpbm Crawford thanks m, nice man yeah the surface's are just great devices glad its working out for you (school i'm assuming?)
You're welcome bro.. I use it for school or just browsing the web etc...
this can fix another tablet's software. LOL
Nice review man. How well does it work with an external 1080p monitor? Does it scale well?
+Robbie Chui thanks robbie, windows takes care of the output scaling no prob
I'm gonna start college in September, and I'm thinking of to buy Surface Pro for classes and works that I have to do during my college years. I'm a handnote person, I need to take notes by writing, not typing on a laptop. So I thought of buying this could be very easy and quick for everything, sincee everything will be on my computer and I'll get to access everything (+ no paper wasting! that sounds very awesome, I take sloppy notes so I waste too much paper). I don't want something huge and heavy either. Surface Pro looks like the device I need but I'm still not sure. I'm between Surface, iPad Pro and Macbook Air (or something), cuz all of them have almost the same prices. I want the perfect device to ease myself throughout my years! Any comments?
If you play games on this thing you should really be using a lower resolution that scales to the ratio of the display like 1400x900.
Thanks for the awesome review! Would you recommend getting the i7 instead of the i5? Aside from work, looking to play games like Starcraft 2 and Hearthstone.
+lormunboy hi, gaming on the surface isn't really limited by the cpu its more the lack of a dedicated gpu, but with those games i think you'd be fine with the i5.
SURFACE PRO!!!
I have it.....
thank you for a great review.I was wondering what color your type cover is.Is it blue or Teal?
+santhosh shankar hi santhosh, its the teal one.
Can you mark up PDF files with the pen and then save it as a PDF to email to people?
Yes
david nagle can u do this to power points as well?
dineshn Absolutely yes
awesome review mate
Very thorough review.
thank you sir
any issues with it over these few months ?
extremely cool.. nice review
Your review is GREAT! Thank you for pointing out the ports, the expandable port is something I've forgotten. Also, on the plug, there's another USB port. My pen is paired, battery is replaced, BUT...I don't get a response when I click the top button. Don't know what happened as it worked before. Can you help? I ❣
may i ask surface pro4 and surface book which one should i buy? if i buy one of these which version should i get?
I like the color of the keyboard picked
+omo “ieatmakeup” ade thanks omo, it is nice! it actually was the only color they had left but i do think its one of the nicer ones. ha
I may be in love of the surface
microsoft surface pro 4 or hp spectre x360 which one is better for me to use in the next 4 to 5 years
great video and good device to review, the best surface pro 4.
Thanks for this. Very helpful. I am thinking of getting this for Medical School. It will be used for everything school related on-the-go, but I'm hoping to save up for a high performance gaming laptop (but would use it for anything that requires performance school-wise as well ) that will stay in my dorm. Do you think the fans would be an issue in a lecture hall or especially in a quiet clinic ward with only a Doctor and couple other students? (I'd be using it for notes with the pen and similar tasks in those situations)
+Circadium hey circadium, congrats on medical school. for your gaming laptop if its just gonna sit in your dorm room why not get a desktop for gaming, you could build a really nice one for probably half the price....as far as the fans, you won't hear them in a lecture hall above the ambient noise, maybe the person next to you but it shouldn't bother anyone, like i say its only when using video mostly (or gaming). as far as a quiet clinic ward, i mean people next to you will probably hear it if it kicks on full speed, i think you may want to test it in store first just to check, but i don't think it would be an issue.
Thanks! And I'll go try different apps in store to see how it goes, thanks for the tip too. I actually wanted my gamer to be portable too. There's a chance I'll be going back and forth a lot from home to school on weekends and holidays. I've never had a desktop so I guess I'm not used to the idea.
ah ok that makes sense then. you could look into bldg a computer from something like the corsair 380t case, still though yeh youd have to lug a monitor and kb and wires everytime you go home so probably not ideal. but desktop gaming is nice since the monitors can be big and you can get more for your money. good luck with school though
Fair enough, I'll think about the pros and cons. Thanks for the advice and the good wishes! Good luck with you channel. Top notch content man!
+Circadium Hey, I'm also in med school and I'm hesitating i I should buy this or not.
Have you bought one. If yes, would you recommend me one too?
This is by far the BEST laptop/tablet I have ever owned
awesome, glad you are loving it!
wow i would like to have one
Hi there, I'm a high school student and looking to buy a laptop for school this year. Im tossing up between the surface pro 4 and the MacBook air. I would mostly use it for surfing the internet, watching videos, using programs such as word, powerpoint etc. and possibly editing videos. My most important needs are that it's light, has a long battery life to last a day at school, and is powerful enough to have many tabs open and a program such as word running in the background. I'm not very familiar with apple products or OS and in the past, iTunes has been very annoying for me. Im also thrown off by the macbook's very old fashioned design (non touchscreen, average display, thick bezels). I'm afraid that the Surface pro is more suited as a tablet and wont suffice as a laptop. Which would you recommend? Thank you very much
+Nyssa H hey nysaa, i would recommend for you the surface pro or the dell xps 13. i would definitely not get a macbook air at this point, they are long in the tooth (my gf has a recent one and its just not as good as either of these machines). i love windows 10 too, i think its the best OS you can get. does that help?
Thanks so much for replying! The xps is currently out of my price range, if it weren't, I would get it in a heartbeat. Would the sp4 easily last about 6-7 hours? I've heard that the sp3 is better with battery life due to less power, is that true?
Thankyou
np, ok then. the sp4 will last you 6 hours for sure and closer to 7. the sp3 may be better for battery life i dont' know for sure but i could believe what you heard, if you do end up with sp3, just make sure you get the newer touch cover for the sp4, its way better, the sp3 may or may not have the infinitely variable stand either, meaning it clicks into place, will would be very inconvenient imo.
okay. thanks so much for your help!
Do you think this with an i5 processor would run flight sim x?
I'm so confused atm. I need a laptop for school. Now, is this "pad" any different to the laptops running W10?
+The Return of Die Bayern not really, just that it has the touchscreen and pen ability, w10 still functions as it would on a laptop
Great review man! For my budget, I am thinking of getting the 4gb version. Any idea if that would be good enough memory?
What do you want to use it for?
Just got my 128gb 4gb version and its perfect for school work!!!!!!!!
just ordered mine 128gb 4gb I5 for uni work (programming, one note etc. ) 4gb should be fine unless your rendering a ton of videos or gaming a bunch or any pretty heavy tasks
Great video man. Thanks :)
I didn't got you, how was it lacking in tablet mode and you felt like to reach out for your iPad??
+Aarushi Vatsa Windows 10 is not a tablet OS, though Microsoft have implemented a tablet mode, its not as easy and quickly accessible compared to iOS which is a dedicated tablet OS.
This is also apparent when you try to run Windows 10 in portrait mode..too thin and tall, you have to be really precise when selecting start menu or task bar settings bottom right.
It's been admitted by several reviewers, though it is a great hybrid, you really will be using it mostly as laptop.
You will notice that a lot of Windows tablets and some Android ones too, it is often presented in landscape.
I am seriously considering getting a Surface Pro 5 (if it has USB-C thunderbolt) but 99% of the time as a laptop, while my iPad Pro pretty much does all tablet duties.
Definitely the apps. Microsoft store has practically nothing compare to the App store.
If microsoft surface supports android apps than maybe I wouldn’t want an ipad.
I have a 2012 Macbook Pro and it lasts 4 hours, 5 max.. horrible stand by time and really heavy for university.. So I wanted to upgrade to a 2015 Macbook Pro since it lasts 11 hours but what is throwing me off is the weight.. Then I found this piece of magic but it looks so fragile like I will break it in the same day lol and the battery life doesn't seem great? Any advice?
+Meow Moosawi yeh battery life is admitedly not the greatest. may i suggest a dell xps 13? non touch screen version, battery life for days! and the best windows laptop there is imo.
+techfreshness I like it a lot but unfortunately it is out of my price range
is it worth it to get it?
how many hours battery life did you experienced in SP4?
+Sachin Bahadur hey sachin, only about 7-8 hours.
Good review. It is possible to write with the keyboard dettached from the tablet, vía Bluetooth? Thanks you very much in advance.
+Eugenio Silverio hey eugenio, unfortunately no, its not a bluetooth keypad. you would have to get a seperate one to do that. the touchpad is powered from being attached to the screen.
Many thanks for taking the time to reply. Very kind of you... Greetings from Spain.
greetings from USA!
Do the light up keyboard comes with it? If not where did you get it from?
+iiCookieMonsterii hey cookie, the keyboard is an additional cost ($129), all the ones microsoft sell are back lit though.
techfreshness Okay, thank you! C;
I was wondering if your screen flexes when you use the pen? I've warrantied mine for it and the replacement is the same way so I'm wondering if it's just normal for them?
+Brayden Adamson yeh i mean very ever so slightly you mean right at the point of contact or in general? wonder how hard you are pushing?
The replacement model I got isn't as bad as the original one and enough to be annoying but doesn't take much pressure at all for the screen to discolor
ah interesting, i'd be inclined to test out some more in store just to make sure you get a really good one. i mean for this kinda money!
yeah I think that's what I'm gonna have to do if yours isn't like that I'm gonna assume it was just bad luck
i dont' have mine any more, but i think i would have remembered if it did. its something i think i'd easily notice. anyways good luck!
Hi,
From a happy subscriber on another topic, any thoughts of extending Surface Pro 4 battery life? am desperate looking for powerbanks and hoping for power keyboards !!
thx :)
hi fahad, unfortunatley not that i know of its a pretty big drawback
Is the fan noise a big deal or is it something you can live with?
Nope
+PensioDK i could live with it because everything else was so good, but i didn't like it ha.
I am thinking about buying it as a school computer where i mostly will be running programs as office and just browsing the web. Do you think the fan will make alot of noise just buy running these programs or is it just the heavier programs like photoshop etc.
hey pensio, honestly it was really only coming on during video play mostly, running your typical office programs didn't really make it turn on. premiere pro wouldn't even make it go on
Would you recommend this if the only game i play is league of legends (I have a desktop at home, but im at the dorm for the week days)
+Kirkland Tran yeh what frame rates are you used to getting on your desktop and at what res do you play at?
+techfreshness my desktop has a 970 so it can run pretty high but I cap it at 60 fps and 1080p cuz my monitor
you will have to run some fairly tame video settings to get 60fps on this, but it will be more than playable.
+techfreshness thank you!!
I'm really torn between repairing my old 2009 Macbook pro or buying a surface pro 4 can anyone point me in the right direction?
+Liam Campbell well liam, do you not prefer one OS over another? (i absolutely enjoy windows more than os x). also if you are coming from a laptop i would almost recommend sticking with a laptop unless you have a specific reason for the surface pro? i love the dell xps 13 touchscreen.
It'd been a long time since I've used windows to be honest. (7-8 years) and my current macbook hasn't been working for about a year now and I'm starting to miss having to do everything on my phone. I think I'm going to have to hit up a computer shop and have a play with a few diffrent ones. Great review by the way and thank you for the quick reply.
yeh man i'd say if you are basically starting fresh, go with win10, easily best OS there is imo. def take a look at the dell xps, its my fav out of all the portables.
great review! i love my surface pro 4, its amazing! I have had it for a few months, and just love it!
Which (color) typecover is that? Thanks
Good review
If I wanted to use a wireless mouse with the Pro 4 do I have to use the only PC Socket on the side ?
yeah, there is only 1 usb port. you have the option of going with a bluetooth mouse as well, saving your port
Thanks for the reply. Regards from the UK
Or get the doc station for multiple additional ports!
How do you add TH-cam or Netflix
hi i heard that u must have hotmail account to make it work is that real ?
Hey guys i don't know wether I should get the IPad Pro or the surface book 4 I need a device for typing up essays, surfing the web, And watching videos.( I use google docs) 😀
Very nice!
can you send me link for case to cab buy it?
Are you the same guy as ComputerTech? He also has your video, with the splash cut off and your voice modulated. He might have stolen your video, just letting you know.
+aldrichqwerty ha really, link?
Does the surface Pro 4's keyboard works on virtual machine (ubuntu/linux/win7)?
+Yp Ng yeh, running a virtual machine should have no effect
is microsoft surface pro 4 still relevent in 2023?
Why does my surface pro 6 has heating issues ?
great Video! +1
can you charge the Microsoft Surface Pro 4 with a powerbank?
+MrShkelo hi, thank you! although i'm not sure what you mean by powerbank?
+techfreshness no problem. It is a mobile external USB battery. If you still don't know what I mean just search in TH-cam...
oh no, you cannot, since it doesn't charge from the usb port
+techfreshness
what a pity! nevertheless thank you for your fast answers
+MrShkelo You can get power bank like this:
www.amazon.com/20000mAh-Aluminum-Portable-Multi-Voltage-Technology/dp/B005NGLTZQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1426185698&sr=8-2&keywords=12v+power+bank
then a cable like this:
www.amazon.com/Xiemin-Portable-Charging-Charger-Microsoft/dp/B00O6UCGS4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1426185597&sr=1-2&keywords=surface+pro+3+power+cable
Although I have not tried it, I researched it before when I was thinking of getting the SP3. Now that the SP4 is out, I'll be getting that and combine it with the cable and power bank above. Though they are rated for the SP3, they should work with the SP4.
Great video! can i ask something? does ms4 has a free microsofot excel?word/powerpoint? thanks in advance for answering
no it does not, it only offers a trial version for their MS 365 office, which is a monthly subscription service. if you want microsoft office you pretty much have to buy it and its definitely a consideration in the cost of the machine. hope that helps....
how much is the ms 365 office?
i'm not sure, but if i was you i would just buy the actual 2013 version, its what i use, that way you not locked into a subscription and you forever have a legal version of office: www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.323023200?gclid=CjwKEAiA8JbEBRCz2szzhqrx7H8SJAC6FjXXIJfSkFOVfpgOfe1euIXjJ2TL5TTZBwGK-Qkq65_Y0xoCzH7w_wcB&VID=323801500&s_kwcid=AL!4249!3!87055761978!!!g!149006203698!&WT.mc_id=us_datafeed_pla_google_pointitsem_office&ef_id=V@YRnwAABZn1lylW:20170124002042:s
its $149, that's expensive... do you know a site with free to download excel
Mine came pre-loaded with MS Office. It depends on where you buy it from.
Would you recommend m3/fanless version ?
Aydin Aliyev no it’s shit
How is watching movies on the SP4? Is the aspect ratio a problem there?
+Tabitha K hi tabitha, good question. it honestly doesn't bother me, you just get a little more black bars on the top and bottom.
+techfreshness thanks for the reply. is there a way to change that? like chosing a different aspect ratio on the program you are watching it on?
you may be able to but then you would cut off some of the film on the left and right so you wouldn't want to. or else get some kind of stretched look which you wouldnt' want either.
+techfreshness I am now doubting to get this or not, but thanks again for your reply and input.
hey tabitha, yeh i guess your best bet would be to go in store and try it out. what else are you considering?
Quick Q. Can you take a screenshots in OneNote of a web page in one take if the web page is let say 4 screens high?
+Mark Bradley hey mark. i'm not sure what you mean about the 4 screens high....do you mean like at the top of the screen? you can, you just highlight the screen after you double click it, in other words anytime you take a screenshot you have to tap and drag the pen across the specific screen area to capture, it doesn't just take a full page screen shot. that make sense?
+Mark Bradley I believe you need a browser extension called OneNote Clipper, and it does allow you to capture an entire page, just a region, or just the text it perceives as the "article". In Microsoft's new Edge browser, only for Windows 10, you can mark up and draw on a web page and save/share that. When shared it should just be an overlay, so the website functions as normal underneath instead of it just being a screenshot.
+MangoTangoFox no - whenever you doubleclick the pen you get BOTH a screen clip to OneNote *AND* a fullscreen capture to your pictures folder
+techfreshness NO, that is incorrect - look in your Pictures/Screencapture folder - you get a FULL screencap everytime (ALL attached displays included)
ah cool, i didnt' not know it was saving it in there, thanks for the comment
What resolution did you play those games?
Probably 1280x800?
no, much higher actually
Three months ago, I bought a Microsoft Surface Pro 4 from Amazon, a brand new Surface Pro 4.
After buying this Surface Pro 4, my job have been being effected a lot, and I think Microsoft should stop selling this kind of terrible laptop/tablet, recall all Surface Pro 4 they had sold, and they should test their products more carefully before sell it.
My first Surface Pro 4 got dead touchscreen issue after a few week. The touch function didnt work totally after that, and I had to use it as a laptop. I tried many ways to resolved the problem, but it did not work, even reset to the factory mode.
The battery of the device then stopped working too (plug-in, not charging), and it immediately turns off when I unplug the charge cable.
I had contacted Microsoft Support Team in the USA, they asked me to return my SP4, then they would sent me a replacement. I had to spend 120USD for two-way shipping (Vietnam - USA), because they sent me a free shipping FeDex label use for US domestic only, and I'm living in Vietnam.
I have just received the new Surface Pro 4 yesterday. But I'm very dissappointed, this second SP4 is a another faulty device, it has "phantom" touch problem. This happened right after I started the device for the first time, it's automatically touch the screen by itself every few minutes, at the same place (about 4cm on the right of the screen center). I have to disable touch drivers if I want to use this device.
Yesterday, I contacted to Microsoft Support Team again, they tried to remote control my device, used some tool to fix it, but it's not work. They asked me to reset the device. I did, but the issue still occurs. I can't understand that why they did not check the quality of this replacement before sending. I'm sorry to say that Microsoft is trying to defraud me.
They have no any solution for my case, so they asked me to contact Microsoft Support Team in Singapore for a replacement again.
This morning, I contacted Microsoft Support Team in Singapore. Singapore Team told me that they could not send me a replacement because I'm living in Vietnam. They asked me to give them an address in Singapore that they can send a new replacement, or I have to fly to Singapore. Oh my God!!! Of course I denied, I dont want to spend any cent for this nightmare device!!! That's enough.
Singapore Team gave me another solution, that I must send my device to US again, then they will refund, but they told me they were not sure how much I would receive.
After talking with Singapore Team, I contact to US Team again (just 1 hour ago), but USA Team denied to process any refunds (even Singapore Team promised), the only solution they offer that is I have to return this nightmare device to US again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAA.... Crazy!!!!!!
Be aware if you are thinking about buying a Microsoft Surface. Take my experience as a costly lession.
ah man sorry about all your troubles, hope you get it worked out!
What about the camera vs mac air camera
+Tay D surface better, and it has front and rear