PAST 3.06 -- A second look and PCA

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ม.ค. 2025
  • Working with PAST v3.06, getting data in via PAST v2 (really) and doing PCA.

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  • @kamcgnt
    @kamcgnt  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PLEASE NOTE ALL: In this video I say there is a problem setting colours and symbols. There is NOT. I was confused. Apologies to all, especially the authors of this excellent app.

  • @marfisilva
    @marfisilva 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mr. McGuinness, thank you very much for your videos!
    I have something to add. There is no need to go through PAST v2 to assign colours and symbols to numbered groups. You can put that information in columns of your Excel sheet and paste that information directly to the PAST v3 columns with row and column attributes activated. Just make sure the columns in the Excel sheet are in the same order as in the PAST v3 sheet and that the colour and symbol names are the same as the ones displayed in the PAST v3 options. Please let me know if this works for you too. Thank you again!

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Lina Silva Hi Lina. Thanks! That's a great tip.

    • @qasimahmad6714
      @qasimahmad6714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please i just need one comment from you.....It would be highly appreciated..
      Question is does PAST only can do with five variables...... I am trying to put 14 variables for two groups with thier 3 replications but PAST is showing only 5 variable in Summary. However, in loading and biplott all variables are showing..... i can not understand why it is so? or how to adjust this?

  • @oyviham
    @oyviham 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, thanks for your nice videos! Setting colors and symbols depending on group works fine at my end. Can you let me know what the trouble is so I can have a look? (I'm the Past author).

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Øyvind Hammer Thank you! Thank you and your colleague for making PAST! I have access to PRIMER/PERMANOVA+ but PAST is great for students and researchers on a limited budget. I was having trouble with the change from PAST 2 to 3, where the way you have some things working has changed. So -- and I will put this in caps -- IT WAS MY PROBLEM; PAST 3 is fine. Also, not comment from Lina Silva. I will add a comment to make this clear.

  • @aruntram
    @aruntram 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much sir for your great information. Could you please mention how to find PCA for seasonal parameters of more than 8 samples

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Retired; no access to software and not answering questions. Apologies.

  • @jesterjester1626
    @jesterjester1626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you input data that are not standardized? If so, moving on to the next question, when conducting PCA, will the data be automatically standardized. Thank you for your answers.

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am retired with no access to data or software. Very sorry. But I (if I am remembering correctly) do have a video on "preliminary" treatment of the data which discusses this.

  • @gonzalosotomayor4914
    @gonzalosotomayor4914 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this great video. I have a coment and some questions for you. In PAST we can do a PCA with a specific option namely "between-group" where the eigenanalysis is carried out on the group means (i.e. the items analysed are the groups, not the rows) (Hammer, 2012). Thereby, ¿you have a scrip (for PAST or other software) to contruct this kind of PCA? ¿you have any bibliographic reference for this "between-group" PCA? Best regards

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not know how the group option works in PCA.

  • @268random
    @268random 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Cheers for the videos, super helpful.
    I am struggling with the Convex Hulls, I have a very similar data set to yours, site with variables. even after grouping each site, the convex hulls remains only one large group around all data. Any ideas on how PAST knows to recognise the different sites, such as in your example?

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PAST works on the data selected, so the selection must include the site grouping variable; it should be the first variable/column in the selection. Also, it must be designated as a 'Group' variable. To do this, turn on column attributes and change 'Type' to 'Group'. You also need to set colours and symbols for the rows to see these in the graph.

    • @268random
      @268random 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Keith, fantastic thats worked a treat! thanks for your help and keep up the good work!

  • @lucyeckersley1234
    @lucyeckersley1234 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, thank you very much for the video, it has really helped me analyse my data.
    I wonder if you know how to do cluster analysis of the newly created PC's?

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, no: not with PAST.

    • @qasimahmad6714
      @qasimahmad6714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please i just need one comment from you.....It would be highly appreciated..
      Question is does PAST only can do with five variables...... I am trying to put 14 variables for two groups with thier 3 replications but PAST is showing only 5 variable in Summary. However, in loading and biplott all variables are showing..... i can not understand why it is so? or how to adjust this?

  • @jeganmicro1
    @jeganmicro1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its nice video. Can you post video how to load a biological replicate values and perform significant analysis using PAST. It will be helpful for many biologist.

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Retired.

  • @nuningugm
    @nuningugm 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question how can we do cross validation of our PCA using PAST? thank you so much

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +tri rini nuringtyas I'm sorry, I don't know how to do that in PAST.

  • @dr.s.g.ghaneasstt.professo7419
    @dr.s.g.ghaneasstt.professo7419 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kindly upload the video with 3.16

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, do not have time to do a new video every time PAST is updated.

  • @margaritalopez9741
    @margaritalopez9741 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't enter my data to the version 3.09 :( help please!!!!

    • @kamcgnt
      @kamcgnt  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Margarita López See new video just up.
      th-cam.com/video/tgjsBHvnrK8/w-d-xo.html