@ okay. BTW as a newbie to turning, I find your work and attention to the creative details inspiring. If you knew me, you would realize what a compliment that is. I am not often inspired. 😁
This is a very good share on this topic. You guys hit all the areas I've struggled with as well. I too have been "fine-tuning" and adjusting my recipe. The 3 ingredient recipe of 1\3 - 1\3 -1\3, is just the standard guideline....
I am going to mix a small bottle of OB shine juice with the 1:1:1 ratio of shellac, boiled linseed oil, and denatured alcohol. Since I make my own shellac, what pound cut should I use when making the OB shine juice?
Good to listen to a chat by experienced turners makes you feel better as a novice as I try to do similar maybe not as good yet but practice makes perfect hopefully. I have question re the abrasive sealer all natural as i prefer to use natural as well, didn’t sound like there was any abrasive ingredients in it. Can you send me the mix again greatly appreciated. Many thanks for an informative video
Thanks for watching, Colin! The paste that Chris is talking about uses Diatomaceous earth as an abrasive in it. I believe the recipe is beeswax, mineral oil, and diatomaceous earth.
In your recent video on using OB’s shine juice you mentioned that you cannot get denatured alcohol in California. I have had the same issue trying to buy it at my local paint or hardware stores. But….. I was able to buy it online from Amazon without any problems at all. Shipped directly to my doorstep in an unmarked box. Didn’t even have a warning label on the outside of the box. Just wanted to share that with everyone else in California. Don’t know how long this will last though.
I see the comment below regarding a food safe finish. I wonder if any studies have been performed in this area because I think the commercially available shellac probably contains some chemicals and preservatives that extend its shelf life. Do those go away completely?
I would just make this comment regarding food safe. I have seen many videos making OB shine using local hardware store products and I will say they are not food grade most are toxic, once it cures fully though I don't know. Just think about the alcohol aspect - denatured means it has additives. At a hardware store you are most likely buying camping fuel that you need to read label but its probably not ethanol and contains oils that are toxic that is why they can sell it without requiring a license or ID you to buy it, its not consumable.
I did mention this in the AAW forum and a chemist did indicate that denatured will evaporate off. Denatureds properties are to make it undrinkable in its liquid state
Thanks guys for the info. It's much appreciated.
Thanks for watching, Jonny!
As a chemist, I might suggest mixing in some isopropyl alcohol to slow down the evaporation. Maybe even butyl alcohol, if you can find it.
Thanks for the suggestion, Jesse - unfortunately, the slower drying leads to a patchy finish
@ okay. BTW as a newbie to turning, I find your work and attention to the creative details inspiring. If you knew me, you would realize what a compliment that is. I am not often inspired. 😁
This is a very good share on this topic. You guys hit all the areas I've struggled with as well. I too have been "fine-tuning" and adjusting my recipe. The 3 ingredient recipe of 1\3 - 1\3 -1\3, is just the standard guideline....
Thanks for watching, Captain! I think the fine-tuning is the fun part - everybody seems to have their own spin on it!
Where do you get this "shine juice"? What wood is that? It is absolutely gorgeous, with shatoyance!
Hi Seth! The wood is Etimoe, the juice is in the video 👍
So you recommend a water or oil base lacquer?
Thank you.
Hi David, thanks for watching - I recommend a cellulose sanding sealer as the base layer
I am going to mix a small bottle of OB shine juice with the 1:1:1 ratio of shellac, boiled linseed oil, and denatured alcohol. Since I make my own shellac, what pound cut should I use when making the OB shine juice?
I believe the pre-mixed shellac I use is a 3 pound cut, and that seems to work just fine, so I'd stick to that range. 3-4lb
Good to listen to a chat by experienced turners makes you feel better as a novice as I try to do similar maybe not as good yet but practice makes perfect hopefully.
I have question re the abrasive sealer all natural as i prefer to use natural as well, didn’t sound like there was any abrasive ingredients in it. Can you send me the mix again greatly appreciated.
Many thanks for an informative video
Thanks for watching, Colin! The paste that Chris is talking about uses Diatomaceous earth as an abrasive in it. I believe the recipe is beeswax, mineral oil, and diatomaceous earth.
@@qbranchwoodworks cheers
Any time!
In your recent video on using OB’s shine juice you mentioned that you cannot get denatured alcohol in California. I have had the same issue trying to buy it at my local paint or hardware stores. But….. I was able to buy it online from Amazon without any problems at all. Shipped directly to my doorstep in an unmarked box. Didn’t even have a warning label on the outside of the box. Just wanted to share that with everyone else in California. Don’t know how long this will last though.
Thanks for pointing this out! We've all had to find workarounds, unfortunately...
does the zinser's shellac in a can have a short shelf life?
Yes, I'd say 4-6 months after it's been open. I recommend decanting it into smaller jars, finish-saver bags, or using bloxygen to preserve it
I see the comment below regarding a food safe finish. I wonder if any studies have been performed in this area because I think the commercially available shellac probably contains some chemicals and preservatives that extend its shelf life. Do those go away completely?
It's a good question - if it concerns you, I would say feel free to make your own shellac from flakes!
Is this food grade once cured?
Yes it is!
I would just make this comment regarding food safe. I have seen many videos making OB shine using local hardware store products and I will say they are not food grade most are toxic, once it cures fully though I don't know. Just think about the alcohol aspect - denatured means it has additives. At a hardware store you are most likely buying camping fuel that you need to read label but its probably not ethanol and contains oils that are toxic that is why they can sell it without requiring a license or ID you to buy it, its not consumable.
@@brianremington5780. Interesting points. I think you could go with high proof vodka instead of denatured and make your own shellac from flakes?
I did mention this in the AAW forum and a chemist did indicate that denatured will evaporate off. Denatureds properties are to make it undrinkable in its liquid state
Does Chris post TH-cams
Not that I know of, unfortunately - he's on IG @shisonwood
Since he's not on YT I figured I should cajole him into doing this video 🤣
Chris who? Does he have a channel?
Chris Sisson - @shisonwood on IG. Awesome turner and great guy
Other guy looks soooo un interested
😂😂😂 he's a cool customer, what can I say