Machining Lathe Riser Feet Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2014
- In this new two part series, I begin the lathe work on the risers I want to make for the Victor lathe. We'll have some indicating, and facing with a carbide insert tool. I also go over a couple other carbide inserts to try out on the job.
Hope you guys enjoy. Part 2 will follow soon.
Adam - บันเทิง
Hey Adam, Great video! I'm very appreciative that you explained in detail your holders/inserts and testing the 2 different inserts for chips and finish. Thanks! It really gives us novices something to shoot for!! That minor checking toward the center has to be the exponential increase in sfm on such a large diameter that messes with your constant lathe speed and not caused by the inserts. Beautiful work and glad you didn't break your insert on the threaded holes!! Thanks for all you bring to us...PJ
Just want to say how much I appreciate all the time and effort that you put into making these videos. It's a wonderful learning experience. You do a great job explaining everything as you go. Very professional presentation.
Thanks Bill!
Hi Adam, Sometimes that interrupted cut can be a blessing, breaking those chips. I have drill many a hole to break a chip when it doesn't matter in the finished part.
I was at the edge of my seat watching those interrupted cuts! Nice work, you're the master of indicating!
Hey Adam,
Great video! Those are going to be some hefty risers for your Victor. Judging from the color of those chips, they would hot . . . and sharp! Thanks for sharing.
Have a good one!
Dave
Adam, I'll need to go back and watch you doing the indicating again...I blinked and missed if!
You and John "DoubleBoost" should work out how to lathe-cut potatoes for deep frying and call them "Stringy Bastard Chips"! Those inserts look like good candidates.
Thanks for letting us watch!
-- Mike
Thanks Adam, exceptional as always
The effort you put in your videos really shows
Very much appreciate you taking the time to make these for us
Doubleboost would have a few quaint names for those stringy chips, he is not a fan of getting flailed to death by those buggers. Great video as always and thanks for it, we get to see the four-jaw-wizard in action again, life it good.
I usually have a few choice words for them as well, but try and keep the videos family friendly! LOL
THanks John.
Man you set up the four jaw on the first piece quick. Seconds... Nice work!
Great videos Adam, I know You hear it a lot, I don't think You know how Good you are on that 4 jaw indicating, fast and accurate, always enjoy the vids ...can't wait until You make the next.. Thanks again . As always We do appreciate You sharing Your skills...Tim
Thanks Tim, and your very welcome for the videos. I'm glad I have such a cool audience out there to watch them.
Adam
So cool, Adam. Thank you very much for sharing, looking forward for part 2! :)
Looking good. Loving the intro tunes!
Hi Adam !
Big boys have big feet - nice use of scrapped material - that's my style - new from old !
And as always really nice work - I like your indicating of that 4 jaw chuck - master class !
Thanks Keld!
Adam, good job in part one, looking forward to part two.
Thanks....13
Sent you some support! Love what you do.
Top notch video as always.....Good choice on using the 4 jaw in lieu of the 3.....made my belly button hurt just thinking about changing it out! I need to knock off lifting a bit, and spend a few days welding up the gantry that's been on the drawing board a few months!
It's hard to beat any type of lifting device. Your body will thank you when you get that gantry built! What you waiting for??
Hey Adam,
They are going to be some heavy duty riser blocks, looking good so far!
Ray
Thanks Ray!
This is going to be on my first project list parts and stock ordered .
It seems a lot of older machines are short for the average guy. People must have been shorter back then. I had to put risers under mine. You need a small jib crane behind the monarch for chuck changes. Your videos are great!
Hey Adam,
Nice looking feet! Great job as always. Seemed like the interrupted cut was no problem whatsoever.
I would definitely love to try a lathe as big as your monarch...
Phil
AWESOME'NES in ACTION !! good vid brother !!
Hi Adam,
The Victor will wear his Sunday shoes all week long now, you'll have to get it a Sunday suit to match...lol
Reminds me when first time machining some hardenable stuff, hesitating with the insert dragging on the surface, and the piece started getting hard on me, that was hell.
Cheers,
Pierre
When you install those risers, it would be good to set them on a piece of roofing felt to isolate them from the moisture in the concrete floor.
"Worlds fastest 4 jaw setter upper!!!" That's what your T shirt should say! Lol
Hey there's a video idea for you, Tom, Keith R., Keith F., and Mr Pete. Have a 4 jaw chuck competition. Although I think you have that one in the bag!
As always, great video.
Although that would be fun, I doubt the Others would want to make videos just on 4 jaw indicating speed. It's a good feeling knowing that I'm persistent at it, but it's not a race or a competition with the others.
I mostly like showing the guys who aren't used to them that all it takes is some practice to get good at it. It's hard to beat the holding power of a 4 jaw.
Thanks for the comments!
Adam
great video adam some of them chips were stringy b*****d's as john would say cant wait for part two
Thanks for taking the time to show us the different inserts.
We think that we will be able to follow you with the 300 style inserts, I.e TNMG 33x
It does not seems to make a big difference between the CNMG 431 and the Iscar 350. The nose radius as I understand it, gives a better finish if it's small (0-1) than a 2-3-4 radius, Is that the case here. ?
This is the kind of explanation that is well suited for us, amateur.
Nice risers Adam!
I was thinking of casting Aluminum risers for my Hamilton 14' lathe, but I might go this way instead! Right now it is on 3 1/2" wood blocks! Whatever works at the time!
Thanks!
Jeff
I am tall so I have most of my stuff up as well. My lazy and cheap method was to just get those precast thick solid concrete slabs from lowes that are like $2ea. It works better than wood because humidty and weather doesn't make your lathe move from the wood expanding and contracting. Of course the amount you raise it is limited by the size of the blocks but it might work for you.
It's a good use of scrap material, and I have lots of that at work.
Those steel blocks are going to be real nice. I look forward to seeing how the tapers turn out using both feeds at the same time.
I am with Ray, those are going to be nice feet.
Randy
cool stuff
I thought the exact thing just before you said it "Don't Wanna' Cooperate". Those darn Rouge Chips!!
That material seems to be really rugged.
Hello,,intresting videos,,like to watch them,
I really enjoy the insert testing.
I like the music change and vid
Can almost relate to Rumpelstiltskin: Only you've spun Straw (color) into Indigo! Gawelee, I'm so creative! Or was that a Pavlovian conditioned response,,, (not)... It get hard to find new complements. All y'all guys videos are turning out so good! Pretty darn rugged insert Adam! That was quite the interrupted cut... As always thank you these videos make my day... :o]
O,
Thanks O!!
Adam I think you need a trav-a-dial I just put one on my two lathes and they work great it not a DRO but they can be rebuilt at Hager in texes
Hey Adam, I love your videos. I noticed on the facing cuts that the stringy chips were only on the outer diameter, and as the cutter moved inward they became much nicer. Seems like the higher SFM at the begining of the cut caused the stringiness, so a slightly lower RPM might have made nicer chips. What do you think? I also noticed that the second insert made stringy chips a little further into the cut, so I guess chip-wise the first insert performed just a little bit better. Thanks again for the great videos!
Hi Adam You do great work I like the feet you are making for your Lathe just out of curiosity what is the stock you are using for the feet is it Stainless? I'm think it should be more on the stainless side of things from a rust stand point - sitting on concrete . Not sure if you have those problems in Florida or but we do up in Minnesota - change of seasons. I need to make a bunch for my 16 x 54 American Tool Works lathe 4 on the tailstock end & 8 under the headstock. Thanks
Great example of how the center of a piece of stock is of a different texture/hardness than the outer portion. Do 'stringy' chips mean softer composition?
Adam nice job. How does the chrome plate affect machining of that material?
One last thing...full flood coolant or none at all with carbide. Nothing in between, one or the other. Thermal shock can break those buggers quick smart!
Looking good so far. Are you dishing the tops to allow the existing lathe feet to sit in or threaded holes??
Remind me to send you some of those 432 I picked up on Ebay...... They are for big roughing cuts more than my machine is really capable of.
Colin
Hey Colin, yes I will dimple the tops for the screws and you'll see that in the next episode.
I always welcome new cutting tools!
Thanks buddy.
Adam
Quick Draw McGraw is in the house tonight!
Are all hyd cyl's made from hard steel?
When you used a little cutting oil on it seemed to help eliminate the stringy chips. Was this just me or just the postion of the tool on the work?
Adam,
I am noticing a lot of similarities between your Monarch and the Hendey I use at work. It can use cross feed simultaneously. Does your spindle have an L1 taper?
looking forward to part two.
-Joe
Joe, the monarch has the D1-6 camlock spindle, same as the Victor.
I was reading that on non hardened metal your chips should be yellow and blue means too much heat. Can you include in a video what you think of the meaning behind chip colors?
Please explain how you stopped the "push off", I get that on my lathe and it is very bothersome. End facing doesn't come out square, it comes out as a really shallow bevel that is easy to see....
Hey A, have you had any luck with chip breakers for aluminum (6061)? I have a small lathe, and turn more aluminum than anything else and I get the worst bird's nests.
Great video, thanks for posting!
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Hey Adam,
Sweet feet you got there. Will we get to see you put them on the victor?
All the best,
Tom
Thank Tom. I did get video of moving and leveling the lathe, and I may put it in this weeks SNS. Haven't decided yet.
Thanks for stopping by!
Adam
Looks like it stops making long chips once you get to about half diameter, think it is just a coincidence or would it have made nice chip all the way if you had used a slower speed?
Part of the problem is that I had too much surface speed on the larger diameter, but also the angle of the insert played a part too. If I would have had a tools positioned like I normally do for facing it would have broken the chip.
Have you ever been whipped with swarf?
I dare say if one of those long bits clicked a hold of that chuck it would do you some damage!
I've been slapped a few times in the past by chips, but nothing that caused damage thankfully.
Nice job, I thought you might have been running a tad too slow for carbide, probably accounts for the long swarf that’s giving you a shitty looking surface finish. Just a thought. Run your speed up incrementally until the chip breaker starts doing its gob from the get go. Not criticising your video, it’s a beaut and I’m subscribing. Cheers.
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А что если такая длинная стружка по рожи хлестанет?
surface speed was too high, the chips started as strings and once you got to the center they started chipping. Lower the RPM and it should throw chips at the larger OD.
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Yet another cool TH-cam machining channel I wasn't aware of. I'll go check it out man!
I could do with feet like that under my bed...