Love the new options for that camper! Nice to see Lance recognizing that the same ol' cookie-cutter design needs an edit! This is great! We want that kind of comfort instead of relying on the dinette! Excellent!
I am absolutely in love with this baby Brad, regarding the DC/gas fridge, do you remember few years back where some rv's ended up on fire just from that purpose as they ruled it out as faulty hook ups, I think but was blamed on the gas aspect of the unit, so I tend to think safety wise I much prefer electric but to each there own, and being single I could see myself living in this pretty much full time so sending a big shoutout from Arkansas and keep up your amazing videos man !!!
“Do a little off camera extermination…I’ll be back soon, buddy.” 🤣 Killing me, Brad! 💁🏻♀️ Appreciate the extended time spent on the fridge, and, of course, showing us that beautiful key rack. The standard 1172 is a beast, but this one is amazing! I love the theater seating on it! Now, if I only had a “fat butt” to carry it. Great job with the video, and I hope you make 30K + subscribers before November. 😊
It's great to have the new layout option. I prefer the original layout as I like the outside storage in the old dinette, but both are good. I prefer the 13 volt electric fridge. I install a DC to DC converter to keep the Lifepo4 Lithium batteries charged, plus I carry 400 watts on solar that is ground mounted when dry camping. When I am remote for 6 months it is a PIA to haul the extra propane, etc. I have been a solar guy for 35 years though.
I’m stuck between the layouts, I think they both have their pros for sure! Thank you for taking the time to explain your set up on how you keep your fridge going as well!
I am with you Brad. 2-Way Propane/AC is the way to go. Don't need to worry about solar, expensive upgraded battery banks...whether or not you are going to get enough sun that day, can't park in the shade.. if your solar is rooftop mounted ..etc etc. Propane will last ages and only sips the slightest bit of juice for the control panel. I don't get the love affair with 12v these days!
@@RVCAMPINMAN I don’t either, it’s just a new fad for people to follow that haven’t used them imo. Just like the incredible amounts of solar, batteries, inverters, etc people started raving about a couple years ago. Starting to see more and more people this year hop off the train and going back to generators. If something works, great! But I’m not giving up the gas/ac fridges and generator anytime soon.
Excellent video as always Brad. No doubt there will be plenty of folks that will appreciate the new design. However, I have a 1172 we bought in 2021 and we love the larger dinette as we entertain guests quite frequently.
@@davidschuler5063 no doubt, Lance was one offers the new layout for more of a “couples retreat” while the standard layout is more family friendly with more sleeping
Like the new layout Brad. Showed my wife she liked it too. Like the theatre seating. I find sitting at those dinettes not that comfortable after awhile. Not enough though to trade my 2022 1172 yet. 👍🇨🇦
Don't have a 12v fridge, but they are getting more popular and more efficient. I *believe* you just need extra solar to make it worth it. I did some crude math using some online calculators... a random Furrion 8 cu ft fridge says it consumes 1.08kWh per day. Which converts to 90ah/day. I think most RV batteries are like what 100ah? So you would essentially be dedicating an entire battery to running the fridge for one day. So you need about one 200w solar panel to charge one 100ah battery in a day, assuming it isn't being drawn from. So essentially just reserve one battery and one 200w solar panel for JUST your 12v fridge in your calculations and you *should* be good. BTW I have no idea what I'm talking about and only spent like 30 seconds googling this :D. But also, the Cirrus 920 is probably their lineups' equivalent for the Lance 1172, and it now comes with 930w of solar & 810ah of lithium batteries optional and comes standard with a 12v 8cu ft fridge & electric cooktop. The Arctic Fox 811 also has a 12v 8cu ft Furrion fridge as a standard option, and I believe theirs comes with about 800w of solar. So take all that with a grain of salt. Looks like you just want about double the normal solar when running a 12v fridge. But back to my original point of: you essentially just need enough solar to cover the needs of the 12v and I'm guessing it's almost preferable as you theoretically won't run out, like you eventually will with propane. Propane is still top dog and hella efficient. But solar and batteries are catching up. Really excited for us to get a new camper and go off grid, if you can't tell lol. If anyone has some actual real world experience or actual scientific insight, please correct me.
@@7inchexhaust I appreciate your well thought out comment and taking the time to share! Here’s some personal experience on my end - both fridges I’ve had when running on 12v (one a Norcold 3 way and the other a Truma ac/dc) when running on 12v would suck the batteries dry within 36 hours, the Norcold quicker. My set up with the Norcold was two 100ah lithiums and 200watts of solar. Highly annoying when you need juice to run the jacks up to back the truck underneath lol my second was two 100ah lithiums and 380watts of solar. Even though it made it longer, still died in a timeframe of 36 hours. A recent 1172 I had with the new standard 12v only option died within a couple days during PDI when I did not have it plugged into ac. 3 separate experiences will have me dodging 12v fridges from here on out. I’m good with a 3 way and running on dc on trips while plugged into the truck charging, but not solely 12v. Lance is working on a similar solar, lithium, inverter package, but I won’t be ordering for any stock units, only custom orders for customers. Takes up too much valuable storage space, too expensive, adds weight, never get 100% full exposure on solar, etc. seems like a fire hazard to me as well lol give me the trusted ole generator. They’re tried and proven for half a century or more now, and insanely efficient and quieter now as well.
Like it! Prefer the original layout but that’s just me. We have a 2022 F350 but I wouldn’t put this on my truck, too close to payload for my comfort. Great video thanks for sharing!
@@DreamingOutloudRVing we had one we hauled around everywhere (with a 21’ Ranger Bassboat) in a 2017 F-350 dually Platinum FX4 with the 6.7 diesel. Payload was somewhere between 5.6-5.8klbs if I remember correctly. We upgraded the sway bar and put the airlift bags on and the truck acted like it didn’t notice the load lol still half the weight of the axle ratings. If you’re concerned about payload, the F350 or a 3500 are the only trucks you’re going to put it in. Once you step up to the 450 like we have now you lose payload since they don’t rate them any higher to keep them in a residential licensing category. Being that the truck weighs more, it took our same optioned 450 to 4,600lbs which is BS because we don’t have any suspension support and can do the same thing lol funny how they come up with payloads. We go by axle ratings
So the 12v compressor fridges only draw 70-100 watts an hour. A single 12v 100a/h lithium battery has 1000-1100 watts. So 300 watts of solar and 2 batteries can run fridge indefinitely. And they don’t burn down your camper when a dirt dauber builds a nest in the vents.
Both fridges I’ve had when running on 12v have died within a day and half, both sets ups with two 100ah lithium batteries, first set up with 200watts of solar, second set up with 380watts of solar. Thing is, you’re hardly ever getting full direct exposure from solar. The new 12v only fridges they’re putting in the 975, 1062, & 1172 standard still died on me during PDI with two 100ah lithiums and 200watts solar. Too much of a hassle to deal with for me when I want my batteries to have juice to run my jacks up and down and run my slide in and out. I’ve never had an issue with a camper burning down due to a fridge (or anything for that matter lol)
In addition to not using much power, they don't need vents to the outside of the camper and they have more room inside for beer and they cool about 2x as fast.
@@itsbrad That actually sounds about right. 70 watt draw should last about 30ish hours if you are not re-charging. But even 200 watt’s of solar would extend that by 20hours, assuming you park where you can get some sun. Mine runs 24/7, no A/C, in the texas summer, in deep freeze mode on 380w solar and 2 batteries. It’s a chest type cooler/freezer and I think it averages about 56w/h.
Thanks for the breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How can I transfer them to Binance?
BRAD-THIS IS ALAN KELLY-NC BRED AND BORN-I JUST TALKED YOU AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO ORDERING A LANCE 1172 -NEW MODEL- THROUGH YOU AS SOON AS MY JUST ORDERED 2025 F450 IS DELIVERED. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND GREAT INFO. TALK TO YOU SOON.
@@Veegercorp apparently I didn’t have it pressed in all the way, when I turned the camera off for a sec I pressed harder and it come in faster lol still new to me, still learning 🤣
Well personally i like the old layoit better. I don't think that dinky little dinette table would be large enough to hold my lunch, let alone my dinner. Definitely no room for a second. Not to mention the older dinette holds 2 more people. I know I'm the minority but i eat 3 or 4 times a day. I need to be comfortable doing so and have plenty of space.
I hate this new option. You lose so much for an awkward chair to sit in. No more outside storage on the slide. Much loss of those massive drawers for the new little ones on the second slide. Loss of the huge under seat storage under the jackknife couch. Things I did notice was they seemed to go back on the hands to the 2023 ones.
Don't like it. Plus not practical. I have a NORTHSTAR 8.5 ARROW. JUST GREAT FOR 2 ADULTS AND 2 GRANDCHILDREN. WITH AN ECOFLOW 2.0 , MORE POWER THAN NEEDED.
I have a 1993 Lance truck camper. If I'm being honest......both floor plans on the 1172 are shitty. There isn't any real lounging space in them. The seating position to stare at the tv is in a dumb spot. Anybody that walks back and forth to the bed or the bath would walk right in front of the tv. And the kitchen is a joke. Zero countertop space. Almost 5,000 pounds dry and you need to add your own usable countertop space. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 The 1062 is better for me. The Host campers at least give you an actual "tv lounging area". People will say....."it's a truck camper, you should be outside doing things". Well, for $70,000+......I better be able to do everything inside that thing comfortably. Crappy tv area. Crappy kitchen. Nice bathroom. Not worth the money to me. Great videos as usual though. 🤙🤙
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Love the new options for that camper! Nice to see Lance recognizing that the same ol' cookie-cutter design needs an edit! This is great! We want that kind of comfort instead of relying on the dinette! Excellent!
lol..thank you for the demonstration on the key rack!!!!!!!...you never disappoint Brad...thank you from San Diego!!
Great looking camper and like the lay out ! I bet most users are a couple/guys hunting fishing and the dinning will work perfect !
I love the new layout much better than the last one
😊 Brad, love the new layout. The new version/ layout is what I would definitely buy. Sweet.
I like the new setup. I just wish I had a truck big enough for the camper.
I like them both. The new model is really cool!
I am absolutely in love with this baby Brad, regarding the DC/gas fridge, do you remember few years back where some rv's ended up on fire just from that purpose as they ruled it out as faulty hook ups, I think but was blamed on the gas aspect of the unit, so I tend to think safety wise I much prefer electric but to each there own, and being single I could see myself living in this pretty much full time so sending a big shoutout from Arkansas and keep up your amazing videos man !!!
It looks great.
IT'S BRAD!!!!!
Knows his stuff !
“Do a little off camera extermination…I’ll be back soon, buddy.” 🤣 Killing me, Brad! 💁🏻♀️ Appreciate the extended time spent on the fridge, and, of course, showing us that beautiful key rack. The standard 1172 is a beast, but this one is amazing! I love the theater seating on it! Now, if I only had a “fat butt” to carry it. Great job with the video, and I hope you make 30K + subscribers before November. 😊
❤️❤️❤️❤️ new option
It's great to have the new layout option. I prefer the original layout as I like the outside storage in the old dinette, but both are good. I prefer the 13 volt electric fridge. I install a DC to DC converter to keep the Lifepo4 Lithium batteries charged, plus I carry 400 watts on solar that is ground mounted when dry camping. When I am remote for 6 months it is a PIA to haul the extra propane, etc. I have been a solar guy for 35 years though.
I’m stuck between the layouts, I think they both have their pros for sure! Thank you for taking the time to explain your set up on how you keep your fridge going as well!
I am with you Brad. 2-Way Propane/AC is the way to go. Don't need to worry about solar, expensive upgraded battery banks...whether or not you are going to get enough sun that day, can't park in the shade.. if your solar is rooftop mounted ..etc etc. Propane will last ages and only sips the slightest bit of juice for the control panel. I don't get the love affair with 12v these days!
@@RVCAMPINMAN I don’t either, it’s just a new fad for people to follow that haven’t used them imo. Just like the incredible amounts of solar, batteries, inverters, etc people started raving about a couple years ago. Starting to see more and more people this year hop off the train and going back to generators. If something works, great! But I’m not giving up the gas/ac fridges and generator anytime soon.
If you get the compressor type dc fridge it's great, very efficient. Using dc on an absorption type fridge will kill your battery in less than a day.
@@BrettKittle gas absorption is what works for me. Very little DC draw. Saves my DC for everything else.
Nice camper
All that is missing with the new layout is a cooler between the seats (as you said) and a larger tv.
Excellent video as always Brad. No doubt there will be plenty of folks that will appreciate the new design. However, I have a 1172 we bought in 2021 and we love the larger dinette as we entertain guests quite frequently.
@@davidschuler5063 no doubt, Lance was one offers the new layout for more of a “couples retreat” while the standard layout is more family friendly with more sleeping
Great layout.
Like the new layout Brad. Showed my wife she liked it too. Like the theatre seating. I find sitting at those dinettes not that comfortable after awhile. Not enough though to trade my 2022 1172 yet. 👍🇨🇦
Don't have a 12v fridge, but they are getting more popular and more efficient. I *believe* you just need extra solar to make it worth it. I did some crude math using some online calculators... a random Furrion 8 cu ft fridge says it consumes 1.08kWh per day. Which converts to 90ah/day. I think most RV batteries are like what 100ah? So you would essentially be dedicating an entire battery to running the fridge for one day. So you need about one 200w solar panel to charge one 100ah battery in a day, assuming it isn't being drawn from. So essentially just reserve one battery and one 200w solar panel for JUST your 12v fridge in your calculations and you *should* be good. BTW I have no idea what I'm talking about and only spent like 30 seconds googling this :D. But also, the Cirrus 920 is probably their lineups' equivalent for the Lance 1172, and it now comes with 930w of solar & 810ah of lithium batteries optional and comes standard with a 12v 8cu ft fridge & electric cooktop. The Arctic Fox 811 also has a 12v 8cu ft Furrion fridge as a standard option, and I believe theirs comes with about 800w of solar. So take all that with a grain of salt. Looks like you just want about double the normal solar when running a 12v fridge. But back to my original point of: you essentially just need enough solar to cover the needs of the 12v and I'm guessing it's almost preferable as you theoretically won't run out, like you eventually will with propane. Propane is still top dog and hella efficient. But solar and batteries are catching up. Really excited for us to get a new camper and go off grid, if you can't tell lol. If anyone has some actual real world experience or actual scientific insight, please correct me.
@@7inchexhaust I appreciate your well thought out comment and taking the time to share!
Here’s some personal experience on my end - both fridges I’ve had when running on 12v (one a Norcold 3 way and the other a Truma ac/dc) when running on 12v would suck the batteries dry within 36 hours, the Norcold quicker. My set up with the Norcold was two 100ah lithiums and 200watts of solar. Highly annoying when you need juice to run the jacks up to back the truck underneath lol my second was two 100ah lithiums and 380watts of solar. Even though it made it longer, still died in a timeframe of 36 hours.
A recent 1172 I had with the new standard 12v only option died within a couple days during PDI when I did not have it plugged into ac. 3 separate experiences will have me dodging 12v fridges from here on out. I’m good with a 3 way and running on dc on trips while plugged into the truck charging, but not solely 12v.
Lance is working on a similar solar, lithium, inverter package, but I won’t be ordering for any stock units, only custom orders for customers. Takes up too much valuable storage space, too expensive, adds weight, never get 100% full exposure on solar, etc. seems like a fire hazard to me as well lol give me the trusted ole generator. They’re tried and proven for half a century or more now, and insanely efficient and quieter now as well.
@@itsbrad thanks for the real world insight! Good to know Lance is working on new optional setups.
Like it! Prefer the original layout but that’s just me. We have a 2022 F350 but I wouldn’t put this on my truck, too close to payload for my comfort. Great video thanks for sharing!
@@DreamingOutloudRVing we had one we hauled around everywhere (with a 21’ Ranger Bassboat) in a 2017 F-350 dually Platinum FX4 with the 6.7 diesel. Payload was somewhere between 5.6-5.8klbs if I remember correctly. We upgraded the sway bar and put the airlift bags on and the truck acted like it didn’t notice the load lol still half the weight of the axle ratings. If you’re concerned about payload, the F350 or a 3500 are the only trucks you’re going to put it in. Once you step up to the 450 like we have now you lose payload since they don’t rate them any higher to keep them in a residential licensing category. Being that the truck weighs more, it took our same optioned 450 to 4,600lbs which is BS because we don’t have any suspension support and can do the same thing lol funny how they come up with payloads. We go by axle ratings
What are the makes and models of the two refrigerators offered in the 2025 Lance 1172? THANKS!!
So the 12v compressor fridges only draw 70-100 watts an hour. A single 12v 100a/h lithium battery has 1000-1100 watts. So 300 watts of solar and 2 batteries can run fridge indefinitely. And they don’t burn down your camper when a dirt dauber builds a nest in the vents.
Both fridges I’ve had when running on 12v have died within a day and half, both sets ups with two 100ah lithium batteries, first set up with 200watts of solar, second set up with 380watts of solar. Thing is, you’re hardly ever getting full direct exposure from solar. The new 12v only fridges they’re putting in the 975, 1062, & 1172 standard still died on me during PDI with two 100ah lithiums and 200watts solar. Too much of a hassle to deal with for me when I want my batteries to have juice to run my jacks up and down and run my slide in and out.
I’ve never had an issue with a camper burning down due to a fridge (or anything for that matter lol)
@@itsbrad Were they 12v compressors? It's a totally different tech. For sure that happens with the 3way's. Those are a complete PoS for 12v.
In addition to not using much power, they don't need vents to the outside of the camper and they have more room inside for beer and they cool about 2x as fast.
@@itsbrad That actually sounds about right. 70 watt draw should last about 30ish hours if you are not re-charging. But even 200 watt’s of solar would extend that by 20hours, assuming you park where you can get some sun. Mine runs 24/7, no A/C, in the texas summer, in deep freeze mode on 380w solar and 2 batteries. It’s a chest type cooler/freezer and I think it averages about 56w/h.
Thanks for the breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How can I transfer them to Binance?
I would rather have the dinette in the original location and replace the couch with the theatre seats.
Do you take trade-in, currently have 2019 Keystone Cougar 367 FLS 5th wheel? I am liking this camper.
We do not unfortunately, we more so specialize in Truck Campers
Like the layout. Looked like the couch was awfully slow😂
@@Mark-sb4zy found out I didn’t have the button pressed in all the way lol
Did the hurricane cause any damage at your place of business? Hope everything is OK there!!!
Can you modify a single wheel 450 or 4500 to haul this camper?
I’m not the guy to ask, I sell campers
BRAD-THIS IS ALAN KELLY-NC BRED AND BORN-I JUST TALKED YOU AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO ORDERING A LANCE 1172 -NEW MODEL- THROUGH YOU AS SOON AS MY JUST ORDERED 2025 F450 IS DELIVERED. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND GREAT INFO. TALK TO YOU SOON.
Pleasure speaking with you today Alan! Can’t wait to get that 1172 ordered up for you!
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Maybe the electric sofa works a bit faster when the camper is plugged in to shore power? That seemed painfully slow.
@@Veegercorp apparently I didn’t have it pressed in all the way, when I turned the camera off for a sec I pressed harder and it come in faster lol still new to me, still learning 🤣
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Probably need a 450 truck 12 volt refrigerator that I have had battery’s always goes dead
Same! Never had an experience where they didn’t draw them dead within 36 hours
Well personally i like the old layoit better. I don't think that dinky little dinette table would be large enough to hold my lunch, let alone my dinner. Definitely no room for a second. Not to mention the older dinette holds 2 more people.
I know I'm the minority but i eat 3 or 4 times a day. I need to be comfortable doing so and have plenty of space.
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I hate this new option. You lose so much for an awkward chair to sit in.
No more outside storage on the slide.
Much loss of those massive drawers for the new little ones on the second slide.
Loss of the huge under seat storage under the jackknife couch.
Things I did notice was they seemed to go back on the hands to the 2023 ones.
SHUT! UP! Dang it. We’ve got a 2021 1172 and really wish it had recliners instead of the dinette. That ought to sell really well.
Don't like it. Plus not practical. I have a NORTHSTAR 8.5 ARROW. JUST GREAT FOR 2 ADULTS AND 2 GRANDCHILDREN. WITH AN ECOFLOW 2.0 , MORE POWER THAN NEEDED.
Sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself more than you are me lol
I have a 1993 Lance truck camper. If I'm being honest......both floor plans on the 1172 are shitty. There isn't any real lounging space in them. The seating position to stare at the tv is in a dumb spot. Anybody that walks back and forth to the bed or the bath would walk right in front of the tv. And the kitchen is a joke. Zero countertop space. Almost 5,000 pounds dry and you need to add your own usable countertop space. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 The 1062 is better for me. The Host campers at least give you an actual "tv lounging area". People will say....."it's a truck camper, you should be outside doing things". Well, for $70,000+......I better be able to do everything inside that thing comfortably. Crappy tv area. Crappy kitchen. Nice bathroom. Not worth the money to me. Great videos as usual though. 🤙🤙