A lot of these layoffs are due to hyper valuation and poor hiring choices by these big companies based on the growth projection(which wasn’t real) and this correction is not the end. I would take this or any other “TH-camrs” advice with a grain of salt, it really matters how you sell your skill set when it comes to landing your first role or even 10th role, I would not worry about learning to code(always be strong with fundamentals), you would be surprised how many incompetent people work as SWE in the valley with pure luck , some of them openly outsource their work to third world countries, so don’t worry about AI, learn to code and keep your skill set updated and you will be fine
We’ll probably get to a world where AI will be able to create software upon request and be able to auto modify its own software to adapt to the users needs and functionality
@@michaelovadiyah659 AI will not only impact the tech industry but also affect many other fields, potentially resulting in a significant increase in the unemployment rate, reaching billions.
@@danielsavage5357AI will not make people poor; however, in some tech industries, such as the one I once worked for, where car engines were assembled, human workers were replaced with robots capable of faster production.
While AI, including models like ChatGPT, has the potential to impact various industries, including web development, it is unlikely to completely replace human web developers in the foreseeable future. AI tools can certainly assist and enhance the work of web developers by automating certain repetitive tasks, generating code snippets, and providing solutions to common problems. This can free up developers to focus on more complex and creative aspects of their work.
Depends at what level AI develops. How easy will it become? If this time next year we end up with AI that can make exactly what you want with just your voice, then there's no money in it anymore, the easier something is to do, the less money you make. I litterally managed to make a working web scraper in 1 day, with almost no code knowledge, and that's with crappy GPT4.... OpenAI said the stuff they are releasing next year will make GPT4 look like baby toys.
@@animeswitch If that's the case, then AI will not only take over the tech industry but also replace many other jobs, such as Uber driver, air hostess, bartender, waiter, teacher, nurse, etc which will create millions of unemployment rate. Game over for the whole word . LOL
As someone with two years of IT support experience and a two-year degree in software development, in my opinion, tech all around is in a weird state. Graduated May 2023 and still yet to land even an internship role for software development, so with him saying 1-2 years, he's not wrong. I must add that going to college, they didn't teach us about git or github, nor did they say build personal projects to help land a role. After many videos, i now have to sit back and regroup and figure out what kind of projects to build to showcase my skills.
Yes I experienced the same thing in my college. I landed an unpaid internship that I took part in from July to February 2024, I now left to focus more on job hunting as I need income. It's crazy to me all the things I saw and learned at an internship for Development. The college system is failing it's coding students. We never were encouraged to build a presence on GitHub and contribute daily. Never learned about language stacks which will be a must know, and many other things they never even mentioned.
I like to think of it as a shift in how we code. Instead of being the writer, director, and the producer, I now get to have a writer (AI) doing a lot of the work for me, while I can direct all the big picture moving parts.
In 2017 I got a job within 1 month. The more experienced I get the harder it seems to get a job. In 2019 a contract job ended and it took me from sept. 2019 to nov. 2021 to get a new job. I interviewed 48 times to finally do the job that I was trying to basically get those 47 other times (React). Only to hear my manager say "its so hard to find developers, and you guys are the best of the best". Lol. what? that just says to me the hiring process is broken.
that's crazy, do you have bachelor's degree in 2019-2021 ? in my country your last sentence is kinda true since most people are rejected due to educational degree
Really appreciate how blunt you are about the road to learning to code. I’ve been in project management for years and decided recently that I want to make the jump to web development. I know it’s going to be a long road, that jobs won’t come easy, but the long term benefits you laid out are what I’m looking forward to. Also looking forward to your site going live!
Web developer it’s only one part of the industry, we have more choices, Mobile Developer (iOS, Android), Windows Applications, Mac Applications, robotic… name it. 😎.
Ive been learning how to code for the past year and half and I was not feeling too confident about getting a job, but I really appreciate your transparency on the state of the job market and your willingness remain cautiously optimistic really help me alot. Also really appreciate the solutions you suggested to keep going! great video man thank you,
@@connorskudlarek8598same well 1.4 years python & sql, im keeping it basic, get a remote job, and keep on learning in the mean time. Already got a website portfolio and resume, but nowhere near confident to apply for jobs, just wanted to be ready, 3 months ill start applying for a database developer role.
You studies for a year and a half before writing this - that shows a level of commitment many, frankly, don't (and perhaps that's because the subject just isn't interesting enough for them). Would you be against sharing how your job search has been over the past year?
@ honestly my passion faded about 6 months ago but my skills are still sharp. I decided I needed proper schooling and I’m going to college now for computer science degree
Great Advice, must be adaptable and persistent. Programming is evolving. In the midst of the A.I. revolution, being a beginner can have it's advantages. For example, At a google devfest, I overheard a senior dev worry about not being able to properly train junior devs because of the skill gap between both parties. Where junior devs are being taught the new trends hence A.I. Hearing that made me realize theirs levels to learning and it's okay to be a beginner . Whether 3 months or 3 years it will be worth it because it's honest hard work that I am investing in myself. I know getting the first gig is gonna be sweet. I do feel it's a gold rush for A.I. and it's better to sell the picks and shovels or what not while digging for gold. Anyhow, thanks for the motivation Chris. -beatsRhymesCodeLife
Programmers aren’t going anywhere . Companies will ALWAYS need somebody to maintain software, develop AI & Robots. Not to Mention VR , AR & XR space. We have a whole new generation of technology ahead of us. The opportunities are unlimited, just make sure your skills are properly aligned with the future.
Just remember that you are just a cog in a hyper capitalistic machine in American society, and if the company is going to furlough or terminate a few employees to keep their profit (such as possibly using AI), then they would. If you are making $80K but you live in an area that is high cost of living, then you are nearly underpaid. If you are making over $100K in a high cost of living, then that is the bare minimum. Being a software engineer is not all roses like what you see in these "day in the life of a software engineer". There will be high amounts of stress, exploitation, over 40-hour work weeks with calls after your 9-5 job, long commutes from stressed out drivers, and unrealistic expectations from the higher ups that you need to meet their demands (unless you want to be possibly fired). You need to be realistic and realize that being a software engineer is like any other job in America such as a health care worker, an engineer, a technician, etc. If you get laid off from a company and can't find a job due to the economy or other laid-off programmers also looking for work, remember not to be afraid to apply for unemployment and be open to other part-time jobs until you get another software opportunity which could take months. With the oversaturation of software developers, rising cost of living (i.e. inflation), company lay-offs, and the almost impossibility of owning a house or raising your own family, at the end of the day to always never forget your close friends and families because they will be there for you. Just wanted to give a different perspective on a micro-level and not a high level bird's eye view on what it is like to be a software engineer
After completing associate school, I landed a 3-month paid internship in Canada. To my surprise, within just a month of wrapping up the internship, I had three job offers on the table, all offering above-market-average salaries for an entry-level full-stack position. I started my new job in early February 2023! Not that bad, right? 😄🇨🇦💼
What’s crazy is that it’s only developers who are even thinking about the possibility of AI taking over their jobs. Of course tech companies where the leadership know and lead what’s going on will be streamlined but the average companies where people barely know how to reset their password makes me confident that AI or not I’m good 😂
the question is , if you are born in the 1st world , why the hell would you get yourself in this lifeless field ? why choose this sad life !?? i am a web dev , and i only am in this field to get out of the 3rd world !!! if there was another way i would do it but sadly , there's not ! only IT is the way ! if i get paperwork allowing me to live in the 1st world without the risk of expultion to the 3rd world , i will any thing but coding ! anything !!! , selling hot dogs is better , working at mc donalds is better because it's less stressful !! i would focus on working to open a little coffe shop or grocery store and put in work to make it better , instead of slaving away for 48 hours weeks !!!!!!!!!!!
Learning MERN stack. Been a nurse for 12 years, but 36 now, trying to learn MERN stack through UT Austin. I’m having a lot of doubt and insecurity about my skill set.
I also work in healthcare and want out of it. I'm just not passionate about it anymore. I have been working in the OR for 8 years and am burned out. I can't see myself doing it the rest of my life. I have learned a lot of HTML, CSS, and JS in less than a year but I wonder if it's worth it. It is a skill nonetheless...
hey guys. im from healthcare as well. I think Data Science is a better choice for us, because we can niche into health DS. I'm learning mainly AI and web dev (as a side)
What is it that you ultimately hope to be doing with web development? Also, have you learned any other stacks/frameworks before or is this your first one?
@@azzamismail41 data analytics maybe. Data Science isn't something you are likely to get a job in via self-taught. Or at least it would take years. Especially if you're not from an engineering background already.
People hate on PHP but forget and overlook one simple fact, it's the language that made every big tech company successful and it's created every tech billionaire, it's literally the language for becoming a tech billionare, there's obviously other factors but php is the common denominator for tech billionaires.
Minorities and women have an advantage because of affirmative action. I am part of the hiring process and since I have been on the team (3 years), we interviewed every single minority and woman that applied. We hired some of them too although they weren't the most qualified.
If you decide to get into HVAC trade, considering to become a Building automation system tech. Unless you want to do residential. I would like to recommend not to go to school Get a HVAC apprenticeship and see how you like it or not.
@@regan035 No problem Research find a HVAC union where you live. HVAC unions hire apprentices with the greatest benefits. If you become a journeyman after apprenticeship, the pay starts at $40 per hour or more HVAC union or Electrician union Either one you like
Thank you for sharing the reality of current market for Junior. I always thought it could take 2 years within learning to find a job. Currently I have a mentor once a week and practice 1 hour per day. As you mention is not a long time for the result plus it's a career learning :) All the best to all juniors here !
1-2 years is realistic. I was a UX designer and got a job after 6 months, was laid off and it took me a year and a half to land a job. Wasn't even a UX role. But the company saw I knew design and now I'm a graphic designer for them and looking to add projects to keep it moving to eventually get a UX role. Feel like anything in tech right now is super hard because all companies want right now is AI and are probably over hiring for it much like during COVID everyone wanted devs and UX designer. Not sure where things are going to go but I just know you're right, keep at it. Even if you learn to code in 6 months then look for a job, you'll keep evolving your skill set that by the time you land a Role, you'll be so much better than if you landed it in a short time. When you're hungry you want to be fed. You'll keep working so so hard that I'm sure it'll be better than a job with your growth. Was that for me at least
Instead of learning how to code and dream of working in FANG, why not learn how to code and try to make a product that you think will solve some or someone's problems or make daily work flow faster. When you're young, time is your asset, get your hands dirty.
I literally just got an associate's degree in web development. I got it for free which is a plus but I feel the market is just so saturated now that it was a waste of time. Should I keep at it and try to get a software development job or switch to a different IT field? I was thinking AWS or Cybersecurity just nothing with too much math because I suck at math lol. I also would rather not go back to school and would rather just study for a certification instead.
I also just finished an IT associates, I’m also having trouble not feeling like it was a waste of time. Two years ago when I started the degree it was a completely different landscape, now everything entry level is oversaturated. There are hundreds of applicants for every opening and you are competing with people with bachelors, masters, several years of experience, etc. Considering just sucking it up and sticking with my automotive tech work…
@@AlexhPDX Yeah it's really a pain, I also feel underconfident in my skills and often psych myself out because I feel I won't be good enough for a job even if I do get one. So that adds another layer of having more to learn and by the time I do learn more, that market will be completely oversaturated and I will have wasted even more time, or at least that's what I am afraid of. There is also a lack of information about front-end software developers/web developers. I feel like there is more info on the engineering side of things, it's like whenever I look for a job and type in developer, engineer is all that comes up.
Def needed to hear this as I'm getting into Code , thanks Chris and keep up the good work and words of wisdom. Wishing you good fortune brotha Cheers from Bay Area,CA !
Why do we all pretend that all of programming is comprised of frontend development? What about full stack developers? What about DevOps engineers? Server admins, security consultants, Cloud engineers? How is AI relevant for someone designing proprietary software for industry use? Or for a Virtualization engineer?
Thanks for this man,, just finished my certificate in Software Engineering, looking for a job right now as I build some passion projects, I'm essentially python developer,
Becoming a developer isn't worth the salary when you get stressed, burnt out, and are on call rotations. Couldn't pay me 1 million a year to be on call....
dont think knowing coding is a handicap, its gonna be more useful than ever cuz average peoples wont understand how it actually works, coding isnt just about landing a job, but its going to be a life skill
Hearing people talk about how ai will change everything makes me think of when people said web3 and the blockchain would change everything. I'm this time is different....
im a professional chef in london (originally from the philippines )but with 20 years experience but now im trying to learn and change career and to be a software developer , not only im interested in web development but also in other aspects of software developement and try to learn many programming languages,AI is not the enemy or will take our jobs but it will help us to be better developer, now im going to do a bootcamp next year but i will not be waiting until they find me a job after bootcamp but do some projects and try to find entry level junior developer jobs even if im not successful but still learn hands on experience by doing projects.hoping next year will be a good year for technology and hoping to start a new career in tech
well im 1 year and 3 months in, python & sql, im keeping it basic, get a remote job doing db management, and keep on learning in the mean time. Already got a website portfolio and resume, but nowhere near confident to apply for jobs, just wanted to be ready, 3 months ill start applying for a database developer role. Also going to university to get a degree in cs and business management, im 40 years old, but its only a 3 year degree. My university dont do ai degrees.
Well, if you stay stucked in the tiring JS web development topic, of course you are going to be replaced.. make an effort to learn something that make you truly unique, but overall, THINK real solutions to real problems.
It seems that recruiter doesn’t watch the portfolio o you’re site….. if don’t see a degreee or experience they reject it immediately. It’s sad because maybe the portfolio is an astounding one .
Hi, I graduated from CS, and I am building projects for my portfolio to start applying for jobs as a junior web developer. But after I've heard about Devin AI, I am feeling lost and depressed. I don't know what to do. Please give me any advice. Thank you in advance
No, likely not. It will make you knowledgeable about subjects of web development, but not experienced (and that is what companies want). In my company, I work with self-taught as well as employees from a masters education background, and what sets them apart is their experience. Their prior education has some impact, but not as much as you would expect.
Maybe tech isn’t for you. And I mean that in a nice way bud. It’s hard and depending on the company and team can be very stressful. Although one way around this is to continue improving and learning :).
Tech is not the holy grail .... I pity people that are leaving stable career to enter a bubble .... The intent of Learning to code should be to be able to build your own apps ... Stop trying to kiss companies asses ... Learning to code shouldn't stop you from being an engineer, doctor, lawyer and so on ... I think it's time people wake up and stop falling for all this false hope
The person who is going to beat you is the person who knows how to code, and at the same time understands how to operate a lathe. Someone who can take the schematic from the screen and into the physical world by machining. The people you have to worry about are the electricians who learn how to code. These are the people getting all the jobs. The time of easy work is over. When tech companies hired people just so other companies wouldn’t hire them and have them. Also, improve your physical appearance. It sends a cognitive message to the person interviewing you. If you look like you sit at a computer screen all day and have a flabby body, not good.
Stop discouraging people to get into coding. I was told this same thing 5years ago when WordPress came out newly. Everyone said front end developers will be out of jobs. Fast forward to 2023 they're still getting jobs, next 5years, they'll still be relevant
@@treasurestrove170 damn. Good point. I could have just lied to not discourage people. But I see where you’re coming from. I have to be as honest as possible. I want people to know how hard it will be. Sorry if you feel discouraged.
on the topic of college degrees, obviously each tier of degree is better, but how would you go about it if you went to college in the current climate, would you go straight for a masters, or would you get an Associates, apply for jobs, work towards bachelor's while hopefully having an entry level tech job, obtain bachelors, apply for better position/company, work towards masters?
Never, ever, ever get a graduate degree in engineering unless you have a good reason. The vast majority of roles won't pay you more for one. Vast majority don't see it as a big benefit. Vast majority of roles don't need one. Only AI engineers seem to really need more than a B.S., but that extra 2-3 years could probably be better spent just working on AI rather than taking grad school.
having your own projects also gives you good practice and allows you to find out where you are deficient. i think it would be an interesting world if AI could replace all developers. it's actually a good thing. a technological advancement. but i don't think it's going to be that easy with the current approach to AI of using Artificial Neural Networks, which has plenty of problems
We shouldn't single out devs, a lot of fields are facing this threat, writers, artists, even some accountants, etc... quitting coding, abandoning an opportunity to learn something useful is not an option. I think we just have to find a way to co-exist with it, because if we will abandon every field that is at a "future threat" right now, there will be millions jobless...
Tell me about it. I was a helpdesk tech for over 14 years. I started very young with MS- DOS 5.0! for fun learning and helping others . My first job was in 1998! I have been laid off for over a year. I am not even able to get work at the local fast food places. I was the one that supported the family and now we are living off my mom's retirement. I have reached out to friends, co-workers and temp work with absolute no luck. I really don't understand it at all. I am not a lazy person and people that had worked with said I was very nice. I have the latest experience so why am I here crying all day?
Devs are the biggest obstacle to other devs. We love to put each other down and make each other feel inferior, showing people how they can improve is one thing, but treating them as sub human because they don't understand or don't do things exactly the same way you do is something different. Or even worse, gatekeeping, you're not allowed to touch MY code. Acting like a toddler that doesn't want to share their toys over software that doesn't even belong to you 🤣🤣🤣 I love coding but working with devs for the last 10 years has worn me down.
Hmm it also depends if you’d like AI. But it if I was in my early 20s id go back to college and get a masters in ML. But again I also have dyslexia so it wouldn’t workout for me lol.
@@RealChrisSean thank you for the insight, i was conflicted about it, as of next year I'll be choosing a specialty to complete my CS degree and now that will be in AI for sure ❤️
Dont regret doing youtube. Yeah no shit when you said yourself that you make $20k to $30k a month from TH-cam alone. Hey everyone quit the tech industry and just become a youtuber you make more money on that anyway lol.
Now things seen in black mirror doesn't seem that far to come with developers and AI enhancing technology. I would say we are not even that far from a world like Black Mirror anymore
No need to even sent your cv on company recruitment portal. Recruiters are all recruiting on Facebook platforms even LinkedIn that use to be common is being abandoned. 2024 may seem even brutal finding a job than 2023 was 😮
quick question; when you say "build things in public", can you elaborate what that means? my first thought is going to Starbucks to work on a project 😅
@@ronaldfacun6636 look, we r at early phase of AI devs, and it already able to write some much of the code for us. as time progress, it's just gonna be a few senior developers left standing to give it architectural instruction, like what type of cloud is best for this project ,to seek a balance between price, uptime, min latency etc... i think going the data analyst then transition to AI engineer ll be the best idea. anyhow it's so tough to get a developer job in this market, u should be having an easier job like, IT, or office assistant, or receptionist while learning the new tech. otherwise u really ll break mentally and economically
hey chris,i am focused on learning AI and data science and javascript but i don't know how to start,so if its possible i would like you to be my tuitor
Yes, you say the reality. AI is now the fastest growing technology. Therefore, since we cannot change what is happening, it is the best to learn how to use it for the end goal. As you said, I am a junior developer and started my first semester in computer science. Sure enough, I will plan learning AI. Thanks ❤❤❤
I was learning to code year and half ago and when pandemic hit I head opportunity to learn a trade pipe fitter shit AI and robots can't do now I work for biggest car manufacturer job is upper awesome great people fun and it pays really good took me 6 months could not be happier learn a trade so you wont br replaced in 2 years if you get job
We need this kind of honesty in the community man. Every single student or anyone aspiring to do digital work of any regard needs to LEARN AI RIGHT NOW. Seriously NOT AN OPTION. Better sooner than later. It's a tool that's going to make you more productive, period.
It's more that juniors have it easier now bc they can use Ai, and produce stuff that seniors do... So all the seniors that aren't really innovative and experienced are obsolete... Which then again is not a good perspective for juniors bc they might never reach the senior level...
Sorry I didn't get past the intro. It made me feel the video will be just spreading negativity and in light of being of the intended audiance, last thing I need is negativity to affect my mentality
5:55 I get it but at this point, isn't it better to try to make money build Saas products..? Within 2 years and 5 or 6 differents services tried, seems more encouraging. Let's not talk about that the fact you have coded real products will always give you an advantage to get headhunted
@@jayonix did the Odin project, went through a bootcamp, got internship experience, doing a contract position right now. I have experience but it's like Chris mentions, "you need to go above and beyond". You got to do more and more just to get your foot in the door.
@@pjsingh569 whaaaat? bruh i don't want to come across as a condescending mf but you must be exaggerating right??? like how... the demand for Junior devs arguably peaked last year, 2022. there's no way you can't breakthrough during that time.. what happened bruh... its been 4 years yet still you didn't get over the fkin door? your story is an anecdotal inspiration for persevering, at the same time, it's despairing as well... assuming you did not exaggerate. Good luck, bruh.
Yeah I'm not buying that either. Nor am I buying the path to $200K for most people even with hard work. Seems the money in tech these days is teaching rather than doing.
You're only taking about BIG tech companies!! It's sad that video like this does not portray the reality -_- ! Stop expecting applying for FANG companies ! Search for a job in small - mid size company. 😂
Thanks for this video! I came across it at the right time, I am switching from IT Support to software engineering and I was searching for the most realistic expectations and I stumbled on this. This video set an honest expectation for what it will take to land a job and I'm ready to make the sacrifice. I would appreciate if you could mentor me on this journey and your response as well. 🙏
"I got a job in 3 months" And thats why you are here... Took me 2 years to get a job has a developer, self taught, udemy/google/youtube Learning to code and develop while doing a normal job with no guidance takes years and I was a lucky one
A lot of these layoffs are due to hyper valuation and poor hiring choices by these big companies based on the growth projection(which wasn’t real) and this correction is not the end. I would take this or any other “TH-camrs” advice with a grain of salt, it really matters how you sell your skill set when it comes to landing your first role or even 10th role, I would not worry about learning to code(always be strong with fundamentals), you would be surprised how many incompetent people work as SWE in the valley with pure luck , some of them openly outsource their work to third world countries, so don’t worry about AI, learn to code and keep your skill set updated and you will be fine
coding is here to stay ai cant think of all user use cases in the real world stop worrying those big techs are just trying to save money.
We’ll probably get to a world where AI will be able to create software upon request and be able to auto modify its own software to adapt to the users needs and functionality
@@michaelovadiyah659 AI will not only impact the tech industry but also affect many other fields, potentially resulting in a significant increase in the unemployment rate, reaching billions.
AI will also create more jobs. It’s up to us to make sure we don’t fall behind.
@@danielsavage5357AI will not make people poor; however, in some tech industries, such as the one I once worked for, where car engines were assembled, human workers were replaced with robots capable of faster production.
@@RealChrisSean But will the rate of jobs being created overtake the rate of jobs being lost/automated? Next year is going to be very... interesting.
While AI, including models like ChatGPT, has the potential to impact various industries, including web development, it is unlikely to completely replace human web developers in the foreseeable future. AI tools can certainly assist and enhance the work of web developers by automating certain repetitive tasks, generating code snippets, and providing solutions to common problems. This can free up developers to focus on more complex and creative aspects of their work.
ChatGPT response for sure
Depends at what level AI develops. How easy will it become? If this time next year we end up with AI that can make exactly what you want with just your voice, then there's no money in it anymore, the easier something is to do, the less money you make. I litterally managed to make a working web scraper in 1 day, with almost no code knowledge, and that's with crappy GPT4.... OpenAI said the stuff they are releasing next year will make GPT4 look like baby toys.
@@marko5734 lol
@@animeswitch If that's the case, then AI will not only take over the tech industry but also replace many other jobs, such as Uber driver, air hostess, bartender, waiter, teacher, nurse, etc which will create millions of unemployment rate. Game over for the whole word . LOL
its terrifying because its extremely possible.@@danielsavage5357
As someone with two years of IT support experience and a two-year degree in software development, in my opinion, tech all around is in a weird state. Graduated May 2023 and still yet to land even an internship role for software development, so with him saying 1-2 years, he's not wrong. I must add that going to college, they didn't teach us about git or github, nor did they say build personal projects to help land a role. After many videos, i now have to sit back and regroup and figure out what kind of projects to build to showcase my skills.
Yes I experienced the same thing in my college. I landed an unpaid internship that I took part in from July to February 2024, I now left to focus more on job hunting as I need income.
It's crazy to me all the things I saw and learned at an internship for Development. The college system is failing it's coding students. We never were encouraged to build a presence on GitHub and contribute daily. Never learned about language stacks which will be a must know, and many other things they never even mentioned.
What did u study in college? Computer science?
@@hatchibyebye Software Development
I like to think of it as a shift in how we code. Instead of being the writer, director, and the producer, I now get to have a writer (AI) doing a lot of the work for me, while I can direct all the big picture moving parts.
In 2017 I got a job within 1 month. The more experienced I get the harder it seems to get a job. In 2019 a contract job ended and it took me from sept. 2019 to nov. 2021 to get a new job. I interviewed 48 times to finally do the job that I was trying to basically get those 47 other times (React). Only to hear my manager say "its so hard to find developers, and you guys are the best of the best". Lol. what? that just says to me the hiring process is broken.
that's crazy, do you have bachelor's degree in 2019-2021 ? in my country your last sentence is kinda true since most people are rejected due to educational degree
Really appreciate how blunt you are about the road to learning to code. I’ve been in project management for years and decided recently that I want to make the jump to web development. I know it’s going to be a long road, that jobs won’t come easy, but the long term benefits you laid out are what I’m looking forward to. Also looking forward to your site going live!
Web developer it’s only one part of the industry, we have more choices, Mobile Developer (iOS, Android), Windows Applications, Mac Applications, robotic… name it. 😎.
I don't know how anyone lives for 1 or 2 years without a job.
Saving, living below your means and having additional sources of income
Ive been learning how to code for the past year and half and I was not feeling too confident about getting a job, but I really appreciate your transparency on the state of the job market and your willingness remain cautiously optimistic really help me alot.
Also really appreciate the solutions you suggested to keep going!
great video man thank you,
1.5 year gang. Let's goooo.
@@connorskudlarek8598same well 1.4 years python & sql, im keeping it basic, get a remote job, and keep on learning in the mean time. Already got a website portfolio and resume, but nowhere near confident to apply for jobs, just wanted to be ready, 3 months ill start applying for a database developer role.
You studies for a year and a half before writing this - that shows a level of commitment many, frankly, don't (and perhaps that's because the subject just isn't interesting enough for them). Would you be against sharing how your job search has been over the past year?
@ honestly my passion faded about 6 months ago but my skills are still sharp. I decided I needed proper schooling and I’m going to college now for computer science degree
Great Advice, must be adaptable and persistent. Programming is evolving. In the midst of the A.I. revolution, being a beginner can have it's advantages. For example, At a google devfest, I overheard a senior dev worry about not being able to properly train junior devs because of the skill gap between both parties. Where junior devs are being taught the new trends hence A.I. Hearing that made me realize theirs levels to learning and it's okay to be a beginner . Whether 3 months or 3 years it will be worth it because it's honest hard work that I am investing in myself. I know getting the first gig is gonna be sweet. I do feel it's a gold rush for A.I. and it's better to sell the picks and shovels or what not while digging for gold. Anyhow, thanks for the motivation Chris.
-beatsRhymesCodeLife
Do you think it’ll still take 1-2 years to get a job even with a computer science degree?
When they invented the printing press , the pen didn't go obsolete .
Programmers aren’t going anywhere . Companies will ALWAYS need somebody to maintain software, develop AI & Robots. Not to Mention VR , AR & XR space. We have a whole new generation of technology ahead of us. The opportunities are unlimited, just make sure your skills are properly aligned with the future.
Companies will always need seniors, NOT juniors
@@MarceloRodrigues-tx6nmbut you need juniors in order to have seniors ,so juniors will always going to be there
Just remember that you are just a cog in a hyper capitalistic machine in American society, and if the company is going to furlough or terminate a few employees to keep their profit (such as possibly using AI), then they would. If you are making $80K but you live in an area that is high cost of living, then you are nearly underpaid. If you are making over $100K in a high cost of living, then that is the bare minimum. Being a software engineer is not all roses like what you see in these "day in the life of a software engineer". There will be high amounts of stress, exploitation, over 40-hour work weeks with calls after your 9-5 job, long commutes from stressed out drivers, and unrealistic expectations from the higher ups that you need to meet their demands (unless you want to be possibly fired). You need to be realistic and realize that being a software engineer is like any other job in America such as a health care worker, an engineer, a technician, etc. If you get laid off from a company and can't find a job due to the economy or other laid-off programmers also looking for work, remember not to be afraid to apply for unemployment and be open to other part-time jobs until you get another software opportunity which could take months. With the oversaturation of software developers, rising cost of living (i.e. inflation), company lay-offs, and the almost impossibility of owning a house or raising your own family, at the end of the day to always never forget your close friends and families because they will be there for you. Just wanted to give a different perspective on a micro-level and not a high level bird's eye view on what it is like to be a software engineer
After completing associate school, I landed a 3-month paid internship in Canada. To my surprise, within just a month of wrapping up the internship, I had three job offers on the table, all offering above-market-average salaries for an entry-level full-stack position. I started my new job in early February 2023! Not that bad, right? 😄🇨🇦💼
What’s crazy is that it’s only developers who are even thinking about the possibility of AI taking over their jobs. Of course tech companies where the leadership know and lead what’s going on will be streamlined but the average companies where people barely know how to reset their password makes me confident that AI or not I’m good 😂
the question is , if you are born in the 1st world , why the hell would you get yourself in this lifeless field ? why choose this sad life !??
i am a web dev , and i only am in this field to get out of the 3rd world !!! if there was another way i would do it but sadly , there's not ! only IT is the way !
if i get paperwork allowing me to live in the 1st world without the risk of expultion to the 3rd world , i will any thing but coding ! anything !!! , selling hot dogs is better , working at mc donalds is better because it's less stressful !! i would focus on working to open a little coffe shop or grocery store and put in work to make it better , instead of slaving away for 48 hours weeks !!!!!!!!!!!
Learning MERN stack. Been a nurse for 12 years, but 36 now, trying to learn MERN stack through UT Austin. I’m having a lot of doubt and insecurity about my skill set.
I also work in healthcare and want out of it. I'm just not passionate about it anymore. I have been working in the OR for 8 years and am burned out. I can't see myself doing it the rest of my life. I have learned a lot of HTML, CSS, and JS in less than a year but I wonder if it's worth it. It is a skill nonetheless...
hey guys. im from healthcare as well. I think Data Science is a better choice for us, because we can niche into health DS. I'm learning mainly AI and web dev (as a side)
same I learned MERN stack and still now job, its insane.
What is it that you ultimately hope to be doing with web development? Also, have you learned any other stacks/frameworks before or is this your first one?
@@azzamismail41 data analytics maybe. Data Science isn't something you are likely to get a job in via self-taught. Or at least it would take years. Especially if you're not from an engineering background already.
Not all people earn 100k. A lot of people earn 50- 30k and they are completely happy as there is no grind like in 150k to 250k
As a self taught developer, trying to navigate this space for the last 2 years, this video really helped me out. Thank you.
People hate on PHP but forget and overlook one simple fact, it's the language that made every big tech company successful and it's created every tech billionaire, it's literally the language for becoming a tech billionare, there's obviously other factors but php is the common denominator for tech billionaires.
Finally, someone who understands PHP! Couldn't have said it better.
can you explain why?
How exactly can one start learning and incorporating Ai in our journey.
I am a software engineering student
Minorities and women have an advantage because of affirmative action. I am part of the hiring process and since I have been on the team (3 years), we interviewed every single minority and woman that applied. We hired some of them too although they weren't the most qualified.
Just identify as one. We are in crazy times where you can do it and they can't say a damn thing.
Nice to get some truth
This sounds like BS, I’m definitely a minority and having the same struggles as everyone else.
@@albinosh4dow apply for jobs with government, or gov contractor, or look for companies that advertise they are B corp certified.
The big bro I never had but I always needed! Thank you Chris
Thank you so much I decide facing the reality stop learning code and find a trading school to be a electrician or hvac tech
If you decide to get into HVAC trade, considering to become a Building automation system tech. Unless you want to do residential.
I would like to recommend not to go to school
Get a HVAC apprenticeship and see how you like it or not.
Apprenticeship> HVAC tech > Building Automation Systems Technician or chiller tech
Thank you for this information. I didn't know this career path but will definitly do further research@@3cats932
@@regan035
No problem
Research
find a HVAC union where you live. HVAC unions hire apprentices with the greatest benefits. If you become a journeyman after apprenticeship, the pay starts at $40 per hour or more
HVAC union or Electrician union
Either one you like
Thank you for sharing the reality of current market for Junior. I always thought it could take 2 years within learning to find a job. Currently I have a mentor once a week and practice 1 hour per day. As you mention is not a long time for the result plus it's a career learning :) All the best to all juniors here !
1-2 years is realistic. I was a UX designer and got a job after 6 months, was laid off and it took me a year and a half to land a job. Wasn't even a UX role. But the company saw I knew design and now I'm a graphic designer for them and looking to add projects to keep it moving to eventually get a UX role. Feel like anything in tech right now is super hard because all companies want right now is AI and are probably over hiring for it much like during COVID everyone wanted devs and UX designer. Not sure where things are going to go but I just know you're right, keep at it. Even if you learn to code in 6 months then look for a job, you'll keep evolving your skill set that by the time you land a Role, you'll be so much better than if you landed it in a short time. When you're hungry you want to be fed. You'll keep working so so hard that I'm sure it'll be better than a job with your growth. Was that for me at least
Instead of learning how to code and dream of working in FANG, why not learn how to code and try to make a product that you think will solve some or someone's problems or make daily work flow faster. When you're young, time is your asset, get your hands dirty.
Because that product already exists. If it didn't you'd probably be building it yourself.
@@dsteppenwolfWhen Google stepped in the search engine game, they weren't the nig boys. It was Yahoo's dominance back then...and a few more.
I literally just got an associate's degree in web development. I got it for free which is a plus but I feel the market is just so saturated now that it was a waste of time. Should I keep at it and try to get a software development job or switch to a different IT field? I was thinking AWS or Cybersecurity just nothing with too much math because I suck at math lol. I also would rather not go back to school and would rather just study for a certification instead.
I also just finished an IT associates, I’m also having trouble not feeling like it was a waste of time. Two years ago when I started the degree it was a completely different landscape, now everything entry level is oversaturated. There are hundreds of applicants for every opening and you are competing with people with bachelors, masters, several years of experience, etc. Considering just sucking it up and sticking with my automotive tech work…
@@AlexhPDX Yeah it's really a pain, I also feel underconfident in my skills and often psych myself out because I feel I won't be good enough for a job even if I do get one. So that adds another layer of having more to learn and by the time I do learn more, that market will be completely oversaturated and I will have wasted even more time, or at least that's what I am afraid of. There is also a lack of information about front-end software developers/web developers. I feel like there is more info on the engineering side of things, it's like whenever I look for a job and type in developer, engineer is all that comes up.
lol me too but I paid for mine. Ugh.
@@Greenuryoh wow we are literally in the same boat. Word for word
Think about getting into network or Cyber security
AI can help your job easier but won't replace you if you do that.
Chris you're so inspirational, so happy that you're putting out content
Def needed to hear this as I'm getting into Code , thanks Chris and keep up the good work and words of wisdom. Wishing you good fortune brotha Cheers from Bay Area,CA !
Glad to see you're taking care of your health!!!
🙏🙏
Why do we all pretend that all of programming is comprised of frontend development? What about full stack developers? What about DevOps engineers? Server admins, security consultants, Cloud engineers? How is AI relevant for someone designing proprietary software for industry use? Or for a Virtualization engineer?
Thanks for this man,, just finished my certificate in Software Engineering, looking for a job right now as I build some passion projects,
I'm essentially python developer,
Becoming a developer isn't worth the salary when you get stressed, burnt out, and are on call rotations. Couldn't pay me 1 million a year to be on call....
dont think knowing coding is a handicap, its gonna be more useful than ever cuz average peoples wont understand how it actually works, coding isnt just about landing a job, but its going to be a life skill
Hearing people talk about how ai will change everything makes me think of when people said web3 and the blockchain would change everything. I'm this time is different....
im a professional chef in london (originally from the philippines )but with 20 years experience but now im trying to learn and change career and to be a software developer , not only im interested in web development but also in other aspects of software developement and try to learn many programming languages,AI is not the enemy or will take our jobs but it will help us to be better developer, now im going to do a bootcamp next year but i will not be waiting until they
find me a job after bootcamp but do some projects and try to find entry level junior developer jobs even if im not successful but still learn hands on experience by doing projects.hoping next year will be a good year for technology and hoping to start a new career in tech
I landed my job in 2 months of learning data analytics. I did not even learn Python. I got the job only with Excel, MySQL and Power BI this year.
Nice!! Mind sharing how that pays? This would help for future vids :)
@@RealChrisSean I stay here in India. This profile pays twice than what an average junior software job at service companies pay here.
@@sr-xd8jb congrats on this!! 🤯
How did you learn?
@@ezbg self study
well im 1 year and 3 months in, python & sql, im keeping it basic, get a remote job doing db management, and keep on learning in the mean time. Already got a website portfolio and resume, but nowhere near confident to apply for jobs, just wanted to be ready, 3 months ill start applying for a database developer role. Also going to university to get a degree in cs and business management, im 40 years old, but its only a 3 year degree. My university dont do ai degrees.
AI has been in most products well before chatGPT was a thing. It was just less visible
Well, if you stay stucked in the tiring JS web development topic, of course you are going to be replaced.. make an effort to learn something that make you truly unique, but overall, THINK real solutions to real problems.
If AI is taking over the coding world as far as jobs go, then the field I’m in now is certainly getting replaced by AI. Guess I’ll just be unemployed
It seems that recruiter doesn’t watch the portfolio o you’re site…..
if don’t see a degreee or experience they reject it immediately.
It’s sad because maybe the portfolio is an astounding one .
Hi, I graduated from CS, and I am building projects for my portfolio to start applying for jobs as a junior web developer. But after I've heard about Devin AI, I am feeling lost and depressed. I don't know what to do. Please give me any advice. Thank you in advance
Would it help if I have a CS engineering degree and a Master's on web development focused on Typescript, React and AWS deployment?
No, likely not. It will make you knowledgeable about subjects of web development, but not experienced (and that is what companies want). In my company, I work with self-taught as well as employees from a masters education background, and what sets them apart is their experience. Their prior education has some impact, but not as much as you would expect.
I am glad youtube recommended me this video, btw I was wondering are you guys looking for a short or long-form video editor?
Who wants to have to stand out ALL THE TIME? I just want a good job and I can do the job. Seriously.
Maybe tech isn’t for you. And I mean that in a nice way bud. It’s hard and depending on the company and team can be very stressful.
Although one way around this is to continue improving and learning :).
I understand. 🙏🏻
Get into trades
Electrician or HVAC tech
Believe me AI won't replace any trade jobs
Tech is not the holy grail .... I pity people that are leaving stable career to enter a bubble .... The intent of Learning to code should be to be able to build your own apps ... Stop trying to kiss companies asses ... Learning to code shouldn't stop you from being an engineer, doctor, lawyer and so on ... I think it's time people wake up and stop falling for all this false hope
The person who is going to beat you is the person who knows how to code, and at the same time understands how to operate a lathe. Someone who can take the schematic from the screen and into the physical world by machining. The people you have to worry about are the electricians who learn how to code. These are the people getting all the jobs. The time of easy work is over. When tech companies hired people just so other companies wouldn’t hire them and have them. Also, improve your physical appearance. It sends a cognitive message to the person interviewing you. If you look like you sit at a computer screen all day and have a flabby body, not good.
Stop discouraging people to get into coding. I was told this same thing 5years ago when WordPress came out newly. Everyone said front end developers will be out of jobs. Fast forward to 2023 they're still getting jobs, next 5years, they'll still be relevant
How am I discouraging people?
@@RealChrisSeanI mean you did respond “idk” to the question : Is it worth coding. Thats not reassuring at all bro
@@treasurestrove170 damn. Good point. I could have just lied to not discourage people. But I see where you’re coming from. I have to be as honest as possible. I want people to know how hard it will be. Sorry if you feel discouraged.
on the topic of college degrees, obviously each tier of degree is better, but how would you go about it if you went to college in the current climate, would you go straight for a masters, or would you get an Associates, apply for jobs, work towards bachelor's while hopefully having an entry level tech job, obtain bachelors, apply for better position/company, work towards masters?
Never, ever, ever get a graduate degree in engineering unless you have a good reason.
The vast majority of roles won't pay you more for one. Vast majority don't see it as a big benefit. Vast majority of roles don't need one.
Only AI engineers seem to really need more than a B.S., but that extra 2-3 years could probably be better spent just working on AI rather than taking grad school.
Great video. The moment you stop learning, you become invaluable.
When is NEVER LEARN AGAIN website going to be usable that's having the Html, CSS and JavaScript tutorials?
Next month
Hello Sir, Good Informative video
why can't you start a your own company, what stopping you?
Influencers made a bubble arouns tech. Even my grandma is learning python come on
And?
Isn't it weird how this happens every single time any new toys come up in tech?
Remember augmented reality?
Serverless compute?
having your own projects also gives you good practice and allows you to find out where you are deficient. i think it would be an interesting world if AI could replace all developers. it's actually a good thing. a technological advancement. but i don't think it's going to be that easy with the current approach to AI of using Artificial Neural Networks, which has plenty of problems
The music selection on this video is sick with it 😎
Tech is very stresseful to work in.
Hey man you scared me
Thanks
Yes he did 😢
Do you think that the market is eventually going to be better next year?
u ve to check if the federal bank start lending money or not
We shouldn't single out devs, a lot of fields are facing this threat, writers, artists, even some accountants, etc... quitting coding, abandoning an opportunity to learn something useful is not an option. I think we just have to find a way to co-exist with it, because if we will abandon every field that is at a "future threat" right now, there will be millions jobless...
Tell me about it. I was a helpdesk tech for over 14 years. I started very young with MS- DOS 5.0! for fun learning and helping others . My first job was in 1998! I have been laid off for over a year. I am not even able to get work at the local fast food places. I was the one that supported the family and now we are living off my mom's retirement. I have reached out to friends, co-workers and temp work with absolute no luck. I really don't understand it at all. I am not a lazy person and people that had worked with said I was very nice. I have the latest experience so why am I here crying all day?
Devs are the biggest obstacle to other devs. We love to put each other down and make each other feel inferior, showing people how they can improve is one thing, but treating them as sub human because they don't understand or don't do things exactly the same way you do is something different.
Or even worse, gatekeeping, you're not allowed to touch MY code. Acting like a toddler that doesn't want to share their toys over software that doesn't even belong to you 🤣🤣🤣
I love coding but working with devs for the last 10 years has worn me down.
I love you man, subscribe added!
Please explain why do you recommended getting an AI degree in college
It’s the present and future
@@RealChrisSean so you mean that getting a college degree in AI is a better approach than being self taught in the same field?
Hmm it also depends if you’d like AI. But it if I was in my early 20s id go back to college and get a masters in ML. But again I also have dyslexia so it wouldn’t workout for me lol.
@@RealChrisSean
thank you for the insight,
i was conflicted about it, as of next year I'll be choosing a specialty to complete my CS degree and now that will be in AI for sure ❤️
Dont regret doing youtube. Yeah no shit when you said yourself that you make $20k to $30k a month from TH-cam alone. Hey everyone quit the tech industry and just become a youtuber you make more money on that anyway lol.
In my opinion, AI helps developers solve problems, but at the same time, it might lead some to become reliant and less inclined to think creatively.
so true!
Refreshing level of honesty
3:35 And here is the whole purpose of the video - something to sell.
Now things seen in black mirror doesn't seem that far to come with developers and AI enhancing technology.
I would say we are not even that far from a world like Black Mirror anymore
No need to even sent your
cv on company recruitment portal. Recruiters are all recruiting on Facebook platforms even LinkedIn that use to be common is being abandoned. 2024 may seem even brutal finding a job than 2023 was 😮
quick question; when you say "build things in public", can you elaborate what that means? my first thought is going to Starbucks to work on a project 😅
It would be nice if other devs can teach a course on your platform 🤔🤔🤔💰💰💰💰
Learning Full stack Web Developer is Still worth it?
no bro go learn data analyst n AI
@@jake9854 Why is not worth it?
@@ronaldfacun6636 look, we r at early phase of AI devs, and it already able to write some much of the code for us. as time progress, it's just gonna be a few senior developers left standing to give it architectural instruction, like what type of cloud is best for this project ,to seek a balance between price, uptime, min latency etc... i think going the data analyst then transition to AI engineer ll be the best idea. anyhow it's so tough to get a developer job in this market, u should be having an easier job like, IT, or office assistant, or receptionist while learning the new tech. otherwise u really ll break mentally and economically
there are still going to be software developers who will make alot of money!, it was a human that made chatGPT, washing machine, and other ai!
Codecademy or ZtM (Zero to Mastery)?...HELP!!?
Do freecodecamp it’s free
Chris you’re so inspirational❤️
hey chris,i am focused on learning AI and data science and javascript but i don't know how to start,so if its possible i would like you to be my tuitor
Chris, you look great. Keep it up brodie💯💯
Ty!
Yes, you say the reality. AI is now the fastest growing technology. Therefore, since we cannot change what is happening, it is the best to learn how to use it for the end goal. As you said, I am a junior developer and started my first semester in computer science. Sure enough, I will plan learning AI.
Thanks ❤❤❤
jQuery not bad, I started by looking for react jobs, did multiple interviews, couldn't get anything. Did one jQuery interview and got the job.
I was learning to code year and half ago and when pandemic hit I head opportunity to learn a trade pipe fitter shit AI and robots can't do now I work for biggest car manufacturer job is upper awesome great people fun and it pays really good took me 6 months could not be happier learn a trade so you wont br replaced in 2 years if you get job
We need this kind of honesty in the community man. Every single student or anyone aspiring to do digital work of any regard needs to LEARN AI RIGHT NOW. Seriously NOT AN OPTION. Better sooner than later. It's a tool that's going to make you more productive, period.
"I thought these layoffs would eventually end."
Why? This is how capitalism works. I hope you're willing to build something better.
It's more that juniors have it easier now bc they can use Ai, and produce stuff that seniors do... So all the seniors that aren't really innovative and experienced are obsolete... Which then again is not a good perspective for juniors bc they might never reach the senior level...
That's the issue the more easier it becomes the more saturated and hence more work needed to reach senior level.
Sorry I didn't get past the intro. It made me feel the video will be just spreading negativity and in light of being of the intended audiance, last thing I need is negativity to affect my mentality
All good bud.
Thanks, this is very helpful ❤
5:55 I get it but at this point, isn't it better to try to make money build Saas products..? Within 2 years and 5 or 6 differents services tried, seems more encouraging. Let's not talk about that the fact you have coded real products will always give you an advantage to get headhunted
Its been 4 years and I'm still going and trying to get that job 😴
4 years?!
youre not learning fast enough if this is true
@@jayonix did the Odin project, went through a bootcamp, got internship experience, doing a contract position right now. I have experience but it's like Chris mentions, "you need to go above and beyond". You got to do more and more just to get your foot in the door.
@@pjsingh569 whaaaat? bruh i don't want to come across as a condescending mf but you must be exaggerating right??? like how... the demand for Junior devs arguably peaked last year, 2022. there's no way you can't breakthrough during that time.. what happened bruh... its been 4 years yet still you didn't get over the fkin door? your story is an anecdotal inspiration for persevering, at the same time, it's despairing as well... assuming you did not exaggerate. Good luck, bruh.
@@rulk3604keep in mind he might not be living in same country as u
“One of the hardest things I would ever do” 😂😂 😂 😂😂
Ok
God this video gives me gasoline 🙇🏻
the music is too loud I watched the video twice to understand everything love to watch you, sir
Sorry :(
aint no way this youtube channel generates 20-30k a month 🤣
Bro bluffing fs
You don't know he was making 10k a few years ago. It's the tech companies with their ad money he promotes.
@@keithcarrillo8238 sure, lol.
Yeah I'm not buying that either. Nor am I buying the path to $200K for most people even with hard work. Seems the money in tech these days is teaching rather than doing.
No worries bud. I understand why it would be hard to believe.
You're only taking about BIG tech companies!!
It's sad that video like this does not portray the reality -_- ! Stop expecting applying for FANG companies ! Search for a job in small - mid size company. 😂
I’ve only worked for one big company. Every other company was a small business or start up.
JavaScript has not been going down because of python is because of typescript
Definitely because of typescript as well
Thanks for this video! I came across it at the right time, I am switching from IT Support to software engineering and I was searching for the most realistic expectations and I stumbled on this. This video set an honest expectation for what it will take to land a job and I'm ready to make the sacrifice. I would appreciate if you could mentor me on this journey and your response as well. 🙏
AI will replace the developers who do basic jobs
"I got a job in 3 months"
And thats why you are here...
Took me 2 years to get a job has a developer, self taught, udemy/google/youtube
Learning to code and develop while doing a normal job with no guidance takes years and I was a lucky one
They can't lay everyone off without people who earn money there's no consumer the economy will crash
If you are consistently working over 40 hours a week, you are at the wrong job.