Is It Art? - A Look at Contemporary Art with Jeff Koons (1993)
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- A vacuum cleaner. A urinal. Three basketballs floating in water? In 1993, Morley Safer took a critical look at the contemporary art world, where household items like these are sold as high-priced art. In this much talked about piece, Safer skewered the artists, dealers and critics of the 90s with gusto.
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There there were a few light bulbs hanging from the ceiling and a mattress talked in a corner which was his bed. He then turned on another switch and behold before me for several Hoover vacuums enclosed in plastic see through displays and Jeff probably said this is an example of some of my artwork. I said Jeff amazing because I do need a vacuum cleaner for my apartment and I think that everything is going to be closed so can I buy one of yours. He smiled and said I would love to give you one but these are much more expensive than you would pay for in a store. I asked him how much? He smiled and said this one is $7,000 and the one next to it is $8,500 and the third one is
He told me he had so many ideas of what he would be creating in the future and that he would be leaving the commodities world as soon as he would have success with his creations. When I left the loft I was sold, I knew that Jeff was passionate about his work and that it was just a question of when he would be successful because his talent and his voice and the words behind them belonged to a true artist and the next morning I rushed to the hardware store and bought a Hoover vacuum but it was not in case in plastic it was given to me in a box which one I brought it back to the apartment I gave to my cleaning person and she was able to do the work. When Jeff left his position I missed his demeanor and
the inspiration that he espoused with his gentle but inspirational voice and when I left his loft that night I thanked him and said to myself I think I might have been one of the first people who got to see his creations in his studio loft and I knew that with the talents he just played at work every day that they could and would result in him achieving his goals of being recognized for his creations. I remember sitting in the balcony at 54 and next to me was Andy Warhol who would sit and observe sometimes of a long periods and nobody bothered him but everybody knew that he was a very successful or genius. He sadly died from a misdiagnosed virus in his heart in San Francisco and it wasn't that much later that Jeff Koons made a major mark in the art world. He married the first woman elected to the Italian parliament, they had a kid and a very stormy marriage. However, Jeff would overcome it and he became the darling of the art world and his creations which in his words were symbols that were part of our everyday lives and encasing them was one way to display and share their purpose with whoever viewed them. I know that there are many that question his greatness but that did never stop Jeff from continuing to create and become acknowledged as one of the great artists of our time. I admire Jeff and proudly remember when he gave me a special viewing and it's something that I will never forget and I wish Jeff continue his pathway to greatness!
LMFAO... "They look like urinals but they really aren't."... "I know, because there's no plumbing attached to them.".. GOLD.
Tour Make my day wise guy!
I find contemporary art fascinating, but this is a fairly damning and convincing take. Maybe it is all about selling to rich suckers
Meanwhile, artists sell intricate, skillful, meaningful fine art which shows mastery of skill and massive effort for $15 on DeviantArt.
Perhaps if people would start buying what they really love instead of what some "intellectual" tells them they are supposed to like it would change and artists that spend a lifetime trying to learn and create beauty could once again expect to be compensated.
Masters skill for just $15; how would they can. My pieces worth U$700 and so on...
medviation art isn’t about the effort, it’s the about idea.
@@Hilariousity101 it's a combination. The idea alone isn't enough. There must be beauty, message, originality, composition, skills.
@@zarathustrap2562there are no rules. It doesn't actually "have" to have any of those qualities imo
6:16 I've never seen a man tuck his tie in his pants in my entire life
That is a thing though. I have seen it on a multiple times in lifetime.
Maybe he was trying his hand at modern art.
vacuum cleaner made for picking up money. while they spoke in "art speak" this reporter spoke in "haterade"
As a contemporary art student I am so grateful for videos like this. Art has become something that hates itself and art schools promote this.
As a contemporary art student you should be concerned about the audiences increasingly disrespecting what you and your colleagues create. As a contemporary art student you should be thinking about how the system manages to distort and discredit the reception of contemporary art and poetry, and try to be more exacting about all these issues. At least, more so than the rustic interviewer conducting this clip.
$99910 Letter of authenticity $80 art work. Now that takes con artist to new levels.
to say a blank (or whitely painted) canvas is the essence of a painting is like saying an empty bowl is the essence of food......
uhm...that's exactly it.
@Oleg Go.
Which is precisely the problem. This shit is as useless as tits on a bull. It's starvation for the mind and soul, yet automatons eat it up as though twas edible.
The value of Jeff Koons "art" will not disappear.His "art" will still be financially valuable as long as his name is famous.
Seems that all this "modern" art is about "making a statement." Best they just write a philosophical essay or short story. Art is, and has been traditionally, far more than that.
Damn well said.
The basketball guy is full of it!
I work so hard learning classical art techniques and structure just to have tools like this run the industry...it is something about Basquiat I like tho. I think its because he really had passion behind his work and wasn't just trying to fuck with people.
@Kid
Yes I agree, his art is at least something. It looks like the doodles of a mentally deficient or ill asylum patient. While it's nothing I'd ever tack onto the wall, it is interesting and evokes thoughts and vibes
Fascinating. Koons has always been a character.
what you say about your art is important, it can determine if it sells or sits on the shelf
He talks about the Koons basketballs piece, says it sold for $150K as if it was a rip-off. A quick search shows Christie's offering a version, with one floating ball, with a $15M estimate. Draw your own conclusions from that.
I guess is true that wealthy types tend to have more money than sense.
I worked with Jeff koons when he was a commodities broker in the world trade center. He was a phenomenal broker who's elegant words were warm and sincere and
Who's talent was unquestionably the best that I had ever heard. I remember he had one client that he had an amazing relationship with, a gentleman who was elderly but as much a friend of Jeff's as a client. Sometimes the conversation would be about shoveling snow and Jeff sincerely spoke to his client to be careful and not to over exert himself and then told him that he thought that cotton would be a good acquisition because of indications in the market that it was about to have a significant upturn. Floyd, the client bought the position and every day Jeff would speak with him and tell him exactly what was happening and
This channel is dope. And I really appreciate the Beckett fever :) Thanks and greetings!
Manufacturing Intellect This is so precious. You are good people.
lots of great work by amazing artists.
Art is whatever an artist makes. The real question is, is it bad art or good art?
He didnt make it though
Someone is salty
I see 27 experts of arts didn't like this video
Why buy a fake urinal instead of a real one?
AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Koons
Makes sense; I can only guess at what's involved in art creation, but art appreciation is about play and conspicuous consumption, and Jeff Koons's work embodies that.
Honestly, when I see most modern art I feel insulted... "BuT tHaT's ThE pOiNt Of ArT; tO eVoKe An EmOtIoN. To MoVe YoU!" It's shit and I'm not playing along.
you are just being ignorant and bold haha
This is the most American video on TH-cam.
Nearly died laughing my ass off..!!!
May 19, 2017 ·Jean-Michel Basquiat painting Sells for $110 Million, Becoming the Most Expensive Work by an American Artist.
art critic: these artist struggle they suffer
murphy brown: with all do respect so is someone passing a kidney stone.
the art of the deal episode
Art speak is a Art unto itself and it sells !
6:48, "the artists has reduced painting to its simplest point, he's a minimal artist" ya, reduced painting by PAINTING NOTHING, real creative, how incredibly gullible and manipulated are these people that swallow this trite? then the usual pretentious, callous statement is always " most people will not understand this" as if that makes her someone special and above everyone else. There's nothing to understand lady, that's why most people are correct in their assessment that they dont understand it, and if all art is purely 'subjective' then the person who thinks its a piece of dog shit is just as correct as the person who thinks it is the greatest piece of art ever made, they are both correct. THAT is the beauty of no objective standards in art and THAT is how one can use the 'pull the wool over the eyes, BS tactics' like the vacuum guy. Insanity.
Koones needs to stop, he’s a fraud.
Like everywhere there is 90% of crap , 9% of interesting things , 0.9% of excellence and 0.1% of genius stuff.
But Jeff told me one day that in spite of his success his passion was art any invited me back to his law to show me his creations. I told him that I was moving into my new apartment in Manhattan and that I had a cleaning person coming the next day and that I needed to get her supplies in order for her to do a work which included a Hoover vacuum.
We went up to Jeff's loft which was all the way over on the west side in the industrial building with an industrial elevator and went up to Jeff's apartment. He turned on the lights,
The entropy of existential property gives us semblance of roots to which only the beginning can fore tell. TheN we evolve into a paragram of colors that define the reduction to a minimalist of observation thru a blind persons view.......damm this sativa is good
I dislike most of these works especially the empty canvas but I very much enjoy the work of Basquiat.
Koons is a con.
Everyone can have an art trophy.
These aren't not cases of "the emperor's clothes." The collectors investors who bought this stuff will later sell this stuff when the price goes up to make money on their investments.
IF YOU have to explain your ART its not ART. anyone agrees? take a song for example. you hear it you feel it you like you saved it to your playlist you remeber it, you see a good painitng you like good. you see basketball put it a cage and someone comes and tells youits a reflection of the birth state. i think its bullshit! millons ofpeople scammed to believe that this is good art.
I don't care what anyone says: I have ALWAYS loved wild abstract avant garde art!
That includes music, too!
Nevertheless, I discipline myself to put a tight limit on ALL forms of my entertainment consumption.
My life is devoted to MY creativity, MY labor of love: proving math theorems.
Totally insane. Perhaps we should all be glad we aren't rich because maybe all that money leads to becoming insane. Sorry - call it like it is.
I'm wondering if Jeff Koons got the idea of the fish tank from Damien Hirst
Shooping ?!! Hire craftsmen ?!!!
Being an artist myself, THIS IS AN INSULT !! There, I said it anyway !!!
There is nothing to understand !!!
It’s the ideas that sell not the artwork, why is everyone so clueless
@@reuben8912
Clueless? NO, its not clueless to expect and demand objective standards of quality!
BythepeopleForthepeople Bro, Art is not about how many hours the maker put into a piece or whether they contributed to designing it, it’s all about the ideas they came up with. They can make multiple ambitious huge pieces because they have help making them. Remember it’s the IDEA that sells and makes a successful artist a successful artist.
@@reuben8912 bullshit. mkt sells. if you have to explain the piece its not art. its just trash
@@BythepeopleForthepeople203it definitely is clueless to demand anything from art. Craft on the other hand is of course different
I usually don't support videos posted to criticize Contemporary Art as a whole. However, I am not a fan of Jeff Koons.
aint a critic is real . i stick with music n film
I’ll pass. Gonna stick to the renaissance dudes, Da Vinci and Michelangelo.
Best way of money laundering ever invented.
Interesting piece. I will say that Koons is and was always an artist first. He studied art in college, studied with Ed Paschke, moved to NYC in his 20s and tried to get his first works off the ground. He did do commodities for a short time to fund his art projects. But Morley was rephrasing the narrative with that limited description of his past.
Dr. Seuss covered this story. It's called The Sneetches. #starsuponthars
This is why Banksy hates the establishment.
Y’all are mad af .
Art is evidence of sanity
7:45 "A London critic is appalled" What else is new?
Is "critic" a formal job title? Is there a formal process to gain qualification to get others to call you a "critic"? What art has this critic produced?
I see great positives in Marxism & Communism. But, to all those who complain about how rich idiots spend their money, spending millions of dollars on a square with random paint thrown at it,
go complain about & blame the religious cult of free market anarchy.
Frankly, there are MUCH WORSE things that rich idiots spend money on:
e.g. FUR COATS that TORTURE & MURDER innocent animals needlessly.
I am a singer and all my music albums are imaginary
Who came here after the banana on the wall?
Yes, my cat can duplicate Basquiat exactly.
We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of dreams
thats art
Relax folks,think of Picasso and his bicycle seat bulls head.
Terrible artists. Legendary con-men
Who is this about Jeff Koons and contemporary art or was it about Marcel Duchamp
The puppy made of flowers is actually beautiful, but everything else is... no. Just no.
Love it! Great art and ideals. Amazing!!
6:21 LOL
Anybody seems to undestand why that kind of modern art is bad. It's bad because it sais the same thing over and over again. It's not that it sais nothing. A blanck canvas is questioning our value system and asking: why do you like that and not this? It's saying that our taste doesnt mean anything greater, that there is no common sense and that whatever we do is worthless because it's attached with mortality. The problem with that is that it has been said so many times it's not at all groundbreaking, and francly it wasn't even profound at the time but that doesnt mean it's not art, it means it's bad art because it did have a meaning, an overtly simplistic and beaten up meaning, but meaning. The price goes separate, why would you care if someone pays a lot of money for a vaccum cleaner? why do you care? Oh poor lil rich guy payed more money than I do for the same thing! It's not like they force you buy it.
And honestly the same happens with millions of paintings of landscapes. You tell me what meaning you see in a sunset! It depends on who are you are asking some might even say it has non. Does that mean it has no meaning at all casue some people say it doesn't? Or are landscapes good because there is technique involved? The technique doesn't make it profound or meaningful. Is selling not clearly deep art morally wrong? Who are you to say so? Does the technique make it beautiful? Is a perfect hand-drawn circle beautiful? it requires technique.
this guys reeks of disingenuousness, like he's setting up the journo to dunk on him. like most of this stuff it's likely a combination of money laundering/intelligence funding/genuine awkward people with lots of money trying to fit in. the whole 'what is art/is this art' question is cliche and lame at this point, best to simply ignore these artists like many NFT purveyors.
Jeff Koons art is a lot farts. Contempory art is disgusting.
Oh boy, let’s open a program about art by talking about money .
Collective insanity
Bullshittt!!! Absolute bullshitt!!! That’s what that is bullshitt!!!
Hardly a intellectually rigorous piece Safer. "Untitled" (Portrait of Ross in L.A.) by Félix González-Torres is a beautiful and moving piece. It commemorates the death of Mr. Gonzalez-Torres's partner, Ross, from AIDS. As each viewer takes a piece of candy they are asked to reflect on the value of Ross's life & their complacency in the AIDS crisis. It's really a moving piece. This absolutely should not be in the same category as Koons's bullshitted hype man faked kitsch. Even though it is all modern art, a viewer is capable of thinking, absorbing and deciding what is good outside of the hype. Don't let Koons poison your brain!
The Puppy Made of Flowers is Cute but the Language of Modern Art is Confusing and Inaccessible. I mean who doesn't like Puppies and Flowers.
This film crew hated contemporary arts far before making this... Such a bad documentary, very obvious that they don't really listen.. i don't like most contemporary art, but I'm at least open for it
That reporter is always wrong about things he is part of an old dying mindset...all that art was amazing and koonz is a genius...and when I saw that basquiat I was in tears...these artists are genuine...and people see that...they are not trying to reproduce dead art...they want to keep art alive...that's why people hate it...its like the younger generations and how they are hated by the old...for being rebelious... but the old has to die for the new to live...this old reporter is part of an old dying mindset... he was wrong about art and also music...dont be like this man...his mindset is stuck in the past...everyone that wants to live, lives now and not in the past...
Can anyone tell me the name of the british critic at 7:43? Brian...? Please!!
Brian Sewall
2:22
hahahaha jajjaajajaj lol horizontal painting , no sorry a vertical painting. I can t believe all these people show up to these events while there is a world with poverty and hunger , they can at least make some good art! concpetual art doesnt have to be bad like a banana glued to the wall!
money laundering
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There's nothing "banal" about puppies
I Love modern art but to hear that he commissions craftsmen to create his pieces is fucking stupid, art should be by the artist or at least transformed by the artist. By claiming that he made art by taking it from another craftsman is like wives calling a handmaids baby theirs in the Handmaids tale, fucking ridiculous.
So you wouldnt consider michelangelos paintings as art? because he had assistants too. I wouldnt limitate art to the personal skill of the artist or the effort it took to get it done.
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R all these ppl in the comment n the host rele that dumb? R ppl seriously struggling to understand what ABSTRACT means? Do ppl rele not understand how value is precieved?? A value of an object does NOT derive from its utility nor complexity nor innovation. A value of an object is derived from its collective precieved value that a group of people is willing to put on it. If I throw up on a piece of paper and put that paper in a museum, I am making a statement that I dare to be different. If others want to join in on the statement they too put their money on it. The thing then gets value. Its that simple u don't need 2 hour documentary to explain how art works jeeeeez
RAT, of course, being a terribly clever & inventive rearrangement of ART
Yeah,you could do "better than that," but could you make your "art" famous?
The graffiti stuff actually does not look tat bad, in my opinion. Not all of it, at least. The figure at 9:42 in the background, for example. The rest seems like bad art to me.
Is a good and fabulous statement what is art what is be reach what is good person want is good country what is a mean of the word. Just need to try your brain . Perhaps will be grab the reason to have question
Let me save you 12 minutes. It's only art if Fortune 500 companies compete to buy it for millions of dollars. Everything else overpriced bathroom tissue.
If you were able to show a Vermeer to a bunch of cavemen, they would probably laugh at it, stone it, pee on it, or perhaps eat it (and then beat you up). But they would definitely not "understand" it. They wouldn't have to, also, because it would be way ahead of their actual cultural/intellectual reach. Same happens to this: the reporter, who seems to be highly defensive and somehow petulant, is just not initiated in the language of contemporary art. No one is guilty about that: not him, not the artists, not the art system. Although perhaps a higher emphasis on art education is needed in the world, yes.
It’s art but is it worth that much? I think not!
Sounds like people are bored with their time and money...
this is or pure stupiedity or mony loendering
koons = con-artist
Modern and contemporary art sucks!
LMAAO i can draw better eggs than that 😆😆
lol
hahahaaaa
good luck
what i see makes me want to vomit
Quite tired of this "art"...
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Koons is a con.