90-ACRE HOMESTEAD TOUR in Upstate New York - Ep. 005

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  • Okay, okay. Enough talking about our dream property! Let's get some boots on the ground and see some of the new homestead and share some of the greater vision of what we're looking to do here.
    Now, we admit, it may not be the MOST inspirational tour, as we filmed this in late fall (Oct 2020) soon after we got here and all the leaves are off the trees, but we think it gives you a sense of the bones of this place. Especially now that the snow is here and has NOT melted. Can't wait to see this shared dream come together!
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  • @FlockFingerLakes
    @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    We filmed this back in October 2020, soon after we got onto the land. Though we really didn't feel like filming that day because we had quite a bit of work to do and wanted to take advantage of the relatively "good" weather-in hindsight, we're so glad we did because soon after-it snowed. And then it snowed some more. And then it snowed again. And again. And again. And as I write this, it's still snowing. We almost forget what this place looks like. And we're so eager for a thaw so that we can experience another season. Spring! Imagine!

    • @jessicasmith9117
      @jessicasmith9117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Many years back I lived in upstate New York for a little while. I recall the first winter was a bigger adjustment then I thought would be, as I came from a place having snowy winters. The first winter in up state I got snowed in hard. I recall times I had to shovel to get out of the front door area🌬. It’s grows on you! As I appreciated spring in a new way after such harsh winters. By the way I can envision how you see the flock place from our description. It will be a beautiful wonder, as nature and meadows surround for years to come! ✨💛🌲🌻🌳🌸🌾🌺🍀

    • @AileenTownsend
      @AileenTownsend 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's breathtaking! That photo of the asters with the golden landscape in the backdrop... 😲 also, your pond is begging to be painted by someone!!

    • @summerrayneoakes
      @summerrayneoakes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AileenTownsend one of our earlier partners, Sam, is trained as a painter, and though he decided Flock wasn't for him at this time, we do hope he'll bless us by coming to the land soon and doing a lovely painting of the place through his eyes :)

  • @Jessieirvine
    @Jessieirvine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I love seeing Sander interacting while you film! And he asks so many questions that I find I would have asked myself! While you're walking us through, Ill be thinking something which he ends up asking you! It works out so nicely! Loved this tour! Bless those little birds using plant tags to build their nests 💜 so sweet!

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, I personally like when he breaks the third wall and asks the questions. Nice of you to say. And I KNOW...I love that the birds are using what they are finding in the landscape. One creature's trash is another creature's treasure I suppose. - SRO

  • @jaketheperson8495
    @jaketheperson8495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I love how you think about the pollution, the invasive species and how the animals will react to it! I wish I can visit youuuu!😄

    • @summerrayneoakes
      @summerrayneoakes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hopefully as we carry out the vision some more here, there will be more ways for folks to interact, participate, and enjoy here.

  • @carolfisch9750
    @carolfisch9750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Double fence layers work like a charm. Deer do not like to jump into enclosed spaces where they feel trapped. Because of this, a double fence can be an effective tool to prevent deer damage in the garden. Surround the exterior of your yard or garden with a four- to five-foot tall picket fence, then erect a second fence of the same height about five feet inside of the first one. The inner fence layer can be made of boxwire, chicken wire, wire lines, or another less expensive material, if you want to save some money. Deer have lousy depth perception and won’t try to jump over both fences at once.

  • @karensicard7304
    @karensicard7304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I don’t know you guys personally, but I am so proud of your attitude towards your piece of heaven. We really need to stop planting invasive plants and plant native ones that support the native wildlife around you.

  • @sophie1301
    @sophie1301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Goats will eat nearly anything. You can absolutely hire goats to clear brush and bramble. If you want to clean up undergrowth and turn up soil in the process (say for planting a vegetable garden) get pigs. They do a fabulous job.

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's actually so shocking, but as I was asking around, goats and sheep are all "hired out" for SUCH a long time. There are many solar farms out here, and I guess sheep (more than goats) are used to mow the lawns there and have long-term contracts. Might have to get some of our munchers for the property. I had goats growing up when I was a kid, and may be something to revisit! - SRO

    • @drekfletch
      @drekfletch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you’ve not come across it yet, a good search term is “early successional habitat.” Several northeast universities came together around ‘00 and created a pdf “Managing Grasslands, Shrublands, and Young Forest Habitats for Wildlife: A Guide for the Northeast.”
      It talks benefits and methods for mimicking recovery from natural disaster like forest fire or landslide. Things that used to happen naturally but are suppressed by modern living.

    • @ruthtretter2628
      @ruthtretter2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roots and refuge has goats! You might check our her channel if you decide to go that way.

    • @Neilhuny
      @Neilhuny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arrgh, man; so jealous of this conversation! Goats will undoubtedly do the job for you. Pigs are magnificent animals! Extremely intelligent and can readily be trained to come when called, sit, lie down and a few other things ... I was working on "roll over" but they chose to make a good pillow to lie against and watch the clouds float by - but they are the world's best escape artists! They dig *extremely* well so get under fences, gates and hedges, and are very powerful - their necks are phenomenally muscular, and could easily toss most humans aside if they chose to! Fence them in well and show them some love and they will repay it a thousand-fold... Be warned, you will probably choose not to eat pork, if you are an omnivore, if you keep some pigs as a "hobby" animal that you get to know.

  • @Dixiwonderlandyoutube
    @Dixiwonderlandyoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Such a peaceful place. Imagen sitting in a boat out on the lake just listening to nature and enjoying the moment. You guys have a lot of work in front of you but this might be the best thing you guys have ever invested in. I´m so happy for you guys. That place is heaven on earth! ❤️

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We feel the same. It's an investment in each other and the place and the greater community. A lifetime project for sure...And then some...

  • @sophie1301
    @sophie1301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Rose bushes produce rose hips! You can make tea, oil, rose water. So many uses for rose hips!

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Totally. If you don't want to remove the invasive multiflora rose, then make use of it, but there's just SO much of it in the landscape, I'd rather just attempt to remove it. It's guaranteed to come back no matter how much you try.

  • @PamsPrettyPlants
    @PamsPrettyPlants 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I swear the gardener that owned my place before imported EVERY invasive plant available in the 70s. 😂

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I bet they did! I think it was "in vogue" back in the day. Like fashion, plants go in and out of style.

    • @PamsPrettyPlants
      @PamsPrettyPlants 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      *laughs from porcelain berry vine hell*

    • @bryanhumphreys940
      @bryanhumphreys940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FlockFingerLakes Silver poplar. grrrrrrr. My dad fights a constant battle against the shoots from the big tree that got too big for its own good.

  • @PamsPrettyPlants
    @PamsPrettyPlants 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    “Think this is enough space for one chicken?” Lmao

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      We joke that if Kippee was still around, we'd be in the chicken coop and she'd get the main communal house. She was THAT kind of chicken.

    • @p4ul1010
      @p4ul1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FlockFingerLakes LMAO yeah she really do looked like that, we miss her a lot ;-;

  • @suburbanhomestead
    @suburbanhomestead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Have you seen the national botanical garden exterior native plants garden in DC? I think they did a phenomenal job using only plants native to America

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We'd love to go see it. Never had the opportunity! Thanks for the tip Siloe!

  • @SeaTurtle515
    @SeaTurtle515 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m involved in a 2500 acre land preserve here in California. Our main goal is native habitat restoration. When we remove trees and shrubs, due to disease or the plant being a non native, invasive species, we always leave the trunks and stumps to decompose back into the earth and to provide habitat for species that only nest in dead woods. 🌿

  • @okonamaroko9419
    @okonamaroko9419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I dream of a Howl's Moving Castle type meadow... with a sea of spring flowers.

    • @TrietHuynhMinh
      @TrietHuynhMinh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I share your dream, where the flowers are endless and the wind rides on wave and wave of meadowy billowing dandelion...

  • @jerrysgarden6579
    @jerrysgarden6579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow so much beautiful land. I love your vision and plans. Very exiting to observe your journey... can’t wait for more videos. Your Flock is beautiful and peaceful.

  • @p4ul1010
    @p4ul1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love this tour of the lawn and around the structures! I really hope you guys do tours in every season so we can see how the landscape changes and updates what you guys decide to do over time ✨

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd love to do that because we will then be able to see how it changes over time. Thanks Jean! - SRO

  • @garynickel648
    @garynickel648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PLEASE allow me to make a few more comments : you are on the rite track as far as using sheep or goats to help manage the water shed ( meadow) IF the biomass is 60% forbs, 40% grass use goats, if 40 % forbs, 60% grass use sheep. If 50% of each use goats. Sheep are grazes, goats are browsers, that is to say, as a correlation to plants it is like growing your blueberries in alkali soils, they we live BUT you are not going to be satisfied with the results. Also to gain satisfactory results, please employ MOB GRAZING, that is to say lots of animals on a SMALL area. Allow the goats to eat 2/3rds of the biomass LEAVE 1/3 THIS MEANS MOVING THE GOATS EVERY 2 DAYS. Yes you will have a goat herder and 3 border collie dogs there, till they move across the 8 acre meadow. And yes, to pay for the service they provide. Also they will have lite weight net fencing they will use to contain the animals on each plot.
    ALSO speaking about goats, they will provide the same service on the rose and honey they ABSOLUTELY love these plants, the shepherd can erect a fence around a small area of honey suckle or rose the GOATS, will strip leaves AND SMALL BRANCHES, allowing you to come in right behind them and uproot the honey suckle or rose, making it SAFER for eyes and skin. They can move firm plot to plot, muck faster than, humans can, and as I say easier and safer for y'all. Expect, 2 years to erratic the rise. And another thing I would like to make you aware of, GROWING PLANTS IN NATURE AND WITH NATURE, IS N O T, LIKE GROWING IN POTS...
    IN NATURE AND WITH NATURE YOU
    DO NOT GROW GROW PLANTS.....
    YOU GROW SOIL BIOLOGY, LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, YOU GRIW SOIL BIOLOGY. HEALTH SOIL BIOLOGY IS THE ROOT OF HAPPY PLANTS, no pun intended. Well just maybe... Using the goats to assist in controlling the honey and rose also supply nutritional foods for the microbes, in the manure. Thank for your time.

  • @alejxndrojavier
    @alejxndrojavier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely start creating a permaculture food forest!

  • @ravenwildspirit
    @ravenwildspirit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Teasel has great healing properties. What a lifelong project. Summer Rayne...your ability to know all these plant species amazes me. I can barely remember common names. Such an exciting vision for you all. Our earth needs more stewards like you all. Blessings 🎆

  • @jessicasmith9117
    @jessicasmith9117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel you on the low level meadow in place of lawns. I’m against the regular lawns. For people whom like green and low level lawn looking areas consider clover and google benefits as it has many. You don’t need to cut many types as they stay low (or cut 2x yr) and if you have a dog when they pee it doesn’t create yellow spots. Very pollinator friendly! 🐝 Love the land you all have! 🍀
    Okay back to the videos as I have a few Flocks to catch up on. 💚

  • @plantaddict4951
    @plantaddict4951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the native meadow concept that you have come up with is genius. One suggestion that I have for you guys is to plant up the pond area with some native plants, such as creeping iris and water lilies. There are also some very beautiful wetland grasses and flowers that you could plant along the edge of the pond. In addition, I think it would be interesting if you channeled the rainwater from the top of your roof into a rain garden.
    On a side note, I think there are a number of ways you could approach preparing the meadow for planting. One of the methods I've seen my local Arboretum and Botanical Garden use was a controlled burn method. They mowed the perimeter of where they were burning so that the fire would not spread and let the meadow burn to the ground. This not only replenished the soil with nutrients from the ash of the fire but also made it easier for native plants they introduced to get established.

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really like your suggestion for a controlled burn. That might be one of the more effective strategies, especially seeing that goats and sheep are all rented out here on solar farms, so it'll be hard to get them out this way. Plus it's not the best forage at the moment, so the farmer would need to supplement their diet. Thanks for the suggestion. And yes, we're going to be landscaping around the 4 different ponds (over time) and we have a (now) long list of plants, but will likely get shorter over time as we get more discriminatory. We'd like to do slightly different plantings in each one. And maybe even do some lilies and lotuses in some.

  • @JoannaLouise200
    @JoannaLouise200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have chosen a fabulous and beautiful landscape there. In England, we would call your ponds 'lakes'! It is so cheering that you are going to reintroduce native species more in keeping with the area. With the gravelly meadow, it looks like that would be the most labour intensive to rectify as, apart from invasive species, the surface terrain is so uneven. I wonder what the natural curve of that land would be? It may also be useful to get a geophys survey to establish exactly where all the drainage channels are and what else sits below the surface. Personally, I would strip it back section by section into manageable chunks, get the gravel removed, and start a replant 🌿🌱🌸

  • @Jackson-nw5fi
    @Jackson-nw5fi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A small Forsythia hedge would look nice. Also I would plant a few echinacea and some native milkweed for butterfly! The place looks amazing

  • @paysontom1
    @paysontom1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess we all have a different mental picture of a "Komestead". For me it is herb and vegetable gardens, greenhouses, hay for a cow or two, definitely chickens and maybe some goats for cheese, syrup making from tapping Maples, Blueberries, Blackberries, grapes, a wood lot, etc. I guess a Self Reliant form of homestead. Are these some of the things you will pursue as well? I must say I am surprised that a Horticulturalist would have planted so many invasive species. You do have your work cut out for you there for sure. It is a beautiful piece of land and I look forward to seeing you guys transform it.

  • @sallyhenry1716
    @sallyhenry1716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LIVING THE DREAM! This is so exciting, congrats to you guys!

  • @HisameArtwork
    @HisameArtwork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:20 oh my gosh, floc means female pubic hair in my language and it's so hard not to think of that whenever I see FLOCK big on screen. XD I'm sorry, it's just funny how words mean different things in different languages. Fortunately there are only 20 mil native speakers here in east Europe. So, I doubt many ppl will have my problem watching your vids. Otherwise good fortunes for your farm projects

  • @nazaazmi1413
    @nazaazmi1413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys got so much knowledge on the ecosystem & plant. Love to learn during watching the video. 👍👍👍

  • @cefcat5733
    @cefcat5733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh you have a bit of heaven there. There's a lot to learn even about a fish pond and conservation I see peonies in different colors wherever you want and meadow flowers on a meadow which big and little bees and butterfys love. Does someone have beekeeper knowledge? Any room for an apple orchard? If that doesn't get a forest deer to fly! What was there a long long time ago? Who used it as their home or hunting grounds then? Do migratory birds use the pond? Will you build a fenced in area to protect the chickens from predatory birds but still allow them to be 'free?' Do any paths exist from the 1850s? Just curious about the historical info.

  • @cherylanderson3340
    @cherylanderson3340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing those holes in some of the trees, I wonder if they were made by Asian Long-Horned Beetles.
    National Invasive Species Information Center
    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

  • @seedrootsprouts2290
    @seedrootsprouts2290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Summer and Sander....this was so inspiring and boy do I have more than a green thumb. I'm completely green with envy, lol. Enjoy your paradise, I have faith you will steward it well.

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much. We're excited to share our experiences and learnings as we grow. Hopefully before too long, we'll be able to open it up to the greater community as well.

  • @JJ_439
    @JJ_439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if controlled burn-offs would work for your meadow to prevent it turning into forest? Fire was used extensively for land management by Indigenous peoples in Australia and I've heard it was used in the South West of the USA as well, but maybe this was also practiced in your area? The book 'Fire Country' by Victor Steffensen discusses this practice from an Australian perspective... Even if it doesn't work for your property it might still be interesting to learn about! :)

  • @MyCleanLeaves
    @MyCleanLeaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your excitement showing us all around is so sweet and I can’t wait to see what it all looks like in spring!! Chickens & wifi! 😂

  • @grannygarden5887
    @grannygarden5887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fix the drainage on that meadow plot that is a good thing to start with . It’s somewhat started ,so fix it start container gardening, make money invest into it and keep making more improvements , hire people to help as your garden center makes u money. Add adventures into that forest. Like botanical walks , hikes etc. conservation center, a botanical garden. With 90 acres you could do all of this but first you must make that land work for you and those tile drainage is a good place to start. Propagate and sell those BARBERRYS. They are so expensive to purchase . You have good bones here for sure. I believe you will make it happen congrats to you. Hard work is good for your soul! I always say “gardening is my prozac “ many blessings ! By the way chickens are awesome PS a bird sanctuary would be amazing!

  • @tannenbaumgirl3100
    @tannenbaumgirl3100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Green Ninebark is native....the purple is cultivated. You would be crazy to use that space for chickens. A coop is so easy to build....why waste this clean space for chickens....it would serve good as a future studio.

  • @bryankopesky8228
    @bryankopesky8228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You said you all are up for the challenge to take on this property -- I'm 60 and would take it on because of my passion for beauty, restoration and good old fashioned work. I see that in the three of you! We've been on our 7 acre farm in Wisconsin for nearly 14 years and have plenty to do but I wont regret going on this journey with my high-school sweetheart and, now, our 5 granddaughters. Can't wait to build our geothermal greenhouse and would guess you will build one too. Best wishes on your journey!

  • @cynthiavanteylingen7922
    @cynthiavanteylingen7922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sander to do list remove honeysuckle and roses. Repair dear fencing. Clearing snow. Renovating office into chicken bed and breakfast. Removing ill trees. Etc etc etc...

  • @cherylanderson3340
    @cherylanderson3340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope you keep the lawn. Your friends could enjoy it, nap on blankets, look at the stars at night,& friends who come to visit for house parties could set up tents on the lawn! It might not be the type of grass like they have on golf courses requiring intensive feeding programs & the use of toxic chemicals & daily maintenance.
    The previous owner might've had the smarts to use a more manageable grass species.

  • @silasd7348
    @silasd7348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many great plans. I'm genuinely excited for you and also learning alot from this.
    I'm pretty proud of myself for recognizing that red dogwood, I work in the Horticulture department at my local zoo and and I know exactly what you mean when you're talking about non native "exotic" plants. In the landscape we work with theres such a variety, its beautiful but a lot of it isnt native.
    Also besides Chickens, are there any other animals you plan to raise? Just be careful because chickens will really tear up an area 😅. You probably know that though.

  • @lotus....
    @lotus.... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Birds and other animals eat the rose hips plus you can make tea. They are a good source if vitamin C.

  • @poodledaddles1091
    @poodledaddles1091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a thought on your meadow, perhaps a nearby neighbor would cut and bale it for free for the hay, or in your economy perhaps half the hay, this works in NE Missouri. Even if the quality looks poor, it will still have value, but give the hay away if you must just to get it mowed, until you figure out how to pay for all the services you are going to want to do.

  • @joannetanner7282
    @joannetanner7282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think you should reconsider your indoor chicken coop. It was a joke , right? Lol
    River Birch may do quite nicely on your land

  • @barbll000
    @barbll000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have honeysuckle on my property which I try to control with regular pruning. I'm certain it's a bird poop gift as well as some other perennials which showed up that I didn't plant. I do know that cardinals love to eat the honeysuckle berries. I can't recall seeing it active with bees when in bloom so it must not appeal to them.

  • @trudybaskett4142
    @trudybaskett4142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about Rewilding . Knapp ,West Sussex, England would be an inspiration for you.

  • @KimberlyDurrMusic
    @KimberlyDurrMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🌓 Wow, this was so refreshing and I love how we are all learning together, I love that this decision was made for you and your families, it seemed that it takes a certain thing or a series of things for people to make changes that will not only benefit themselves but also the people they love, the environment, the community, the world. And it takes mature individuals to come together and say, let’s make a difference, a bigger difference to impact a place with meaningful and purposeful creativity. Whatever that may be for each individual. It seems for so many creative juices begin to be a necessity of what to do and how to make it work, because we can see, the world has turned upside down but, within the all of that, people took chances on journeys that would probably would never step to the unknown and for many, beautiful situations birth because of the pandemic and it has made all of us look at life completely different, but in a good way, and we hope in a more respectful way. Not to take for granted even the small things and appreciate every little thing so much more. I appreciate this moment, and I thank you all. I get so encouraged and motivated when I see your videos. Question: Are you getting a P.O. Box? I would love to send some things to you all. Well just let me know what you think. Blessings to you and your families. Oh by the way, I think your chicken by far is the most bougie chicken with its own apartment, I have ever seen, Lol🤣🤣 hilarious 🤣🤣

  • @cynthiavanteylingen7922
    @cynthiavanteylingen7922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bed and breakfast for chickens it has electricity and wifi. So chicken friendly. Hahahhahaha 11 lol.

  • @ciaobella8963
    @ciaobella8963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The area with the pond looks like an interrupted wetland, which is interesting for the altitude and climate. Did the previous owner buy the property with this area as a wetland and then tried to dry it up by funneling the water from it?

  • @TheIridescentcloud
    @TheIridescentcloud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your plan for the lawn for it to become a more biodiverse space! I don't know if this concept is something you do in the US, but in Germany there are many traditional orchards grow few old or regional varieties of fruit trees scattered on a low nutrient meadow (which is a process, as you need to remove the mown biomass each time). They are mown 2-3 times a year so it's a very low maintanace but high diversity ecosystem that you can even get some food from. One of my favorite concepts :)

  • @nikao2732
    @nikao2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don´t know how there goes (I´m from central europe).. but it will be nice put a few bee hives maybe

  • @cody7403
    @cody7403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An idea for the meadow could be a controlled burn. It can help put nutrients back in the soil. They do the a lot here in the midwest

  • @ThePattiw
    @ThePattiw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The deer probably want access to the water. With the fences repaired how will they get to a water source?

  • @krewetkaaaa
    @krewetkaaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the rose Bush does not make rosehips?... which birds really like

  • @igneousidol
    @igneousidol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    beautiful land, I live in the Finger Lakes almost every view is beautiful (I only love it three seasons and wish I could get away in the winter) ...personally, I would get volunteers to dig up the black plastic drains at least the bits above ground it might fill up with silt anyway since I don't see a filter sock around it...you can have the mower set higher so it does not hit any that is only at the surface...I would plant wildflowers underneath low growing fruit or nut trees and bushes...also chickens like to have other chickens around and I would not house them in that room, you might not have the same resale value after the chicken poo eats through the floor and pecks the walls, you could build a simple lean-to coop for them with the outside wall as one of their walls

  • @kentuckyroads6053
    @kentuckyroads6053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m so happy for you and your friends! It’s a wonderful find and investment. Just beautiful, and a dream come true. Best wishes in your new venture!

  • @martinanemcokova917
    @martinanemcokova917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am in the planting phase on my property and I took the approach to only plant native species with exceptions for species edible for humans and/or are nitrogen fixers (like Japanese silverberry and the Kamchatkan honeysuckle). We have native Rosa canina here and I know how difficult it is to get rid of it if it grows to a certain size. I love your videos.

  • @ShyDog827
    @ShyDog827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love hearing all your thoughts of taking care and improving that property . Can’t wait to see it all thriving under your stewardship 🌿

  • @anastasiawak894
    @anastasiawak894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so awesome. What a journey. Been watching you a long time and so proud of you! You guys can start those volunteer working vacations that a lot of non profits set up. I know I would drive up from VA to help The Flock!

  • @plantgurugangsta7299
    @plantgurugangsta7299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow did the prior owner (horticulturist) plant and maintain that whole forest?? I wonder how much of it he personally planted! Very cool! Can't wait to see what y'all do! 🌿❤🐛🦋

  • @botanyboy5454
    @botanyboy5454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So interesting. Have you found any maples for tapping ?

  • @raselbx
    @raselbx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So beautiful...I would have endless projects working with all this space and lose myself in all of the nature this property has to offer. So, so "fresh." Really happy for you; I can see how fulfilled you are feeling by the way you present your property with Sander. You're "The Bomb!"

  • @jessicam5090
    @jessicam5090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PLEASE plant milkweed for the monarchs!

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We may not have to because I was noticing quite a bit of milkweed up this way. It's more "in fashion" here thankfully to leave it. Though I think I'd like to get more A. incarnata and some other wet-loving species that we haven't seen yet here that we think would do well.

    • @fjm232300
      @fjm232300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for that Jess! And help the bees too!

  • @pinkyjay1881
    @pinkyjay1881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks beautiful! I can see the excitement in you both! It’s like an artist with a canvas, so much fun! Congratulations!

  • @annettej.gilmore8154
    @annettej.gilmore8154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a vision. Love it.Thanks so much for telling us all your beautiful ideas. Can't wait to see it all come together in time. :))

  • @brianandtamiolson2330
    @brianandtamiolson2330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m looking forward to the development of this property and to see your visions all come together. What a huge undertaking you have got yourself into however, I know the vision will become a reality. Can’t wait for chickens.

  • @kalesiawright-voulgarellis7272
    @kalesiawright-voulgarellis7272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can't wait to see what you guys do with this property! So exciting!

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Us too. Now it's just about organizing our ideas and seeing what we can do over time.

    • @kalesiawright-voulgarellis7272
      @kalesiawright-voulgarellis7272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FlockFingerLakes I'm confident it will be great!

  • @danajanis5750
    @danajanis5750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely beautiful ....congratulations so happy for you all and excited to see the new chicken :)

  • @triplethreatmatt
    @triplethreatmatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might i recommend that if you have some marginal rocky crop land (the type that junipers and some early successionals grow in), lilacs do very well in this environment. At least they do here in South eastern Ontario. In the spring the flowers are incredible, and they don't require much beyond the occasional pruning. Just a thought for you, but I'm confident you've got everything covered. I'm so excited for all of you! With respect to your tile drainage field, I know there are a few geoscientists and environmental students at Cornell that are working on solutions to this legacy infrastructure.

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a wonderful suggestion. Lilacs are on the top of my list! I had 5 of them growing outside my bedroom window when I was a young girl, and during the warm months, the breeze would blow the smell of lilacs in. When we moved off that property, the first thing I asked my mother was if we could take the lilacs. And there is plenty of places here with the tile drainage to do rock plantings / alpine plantings and some marginals.

  • @susansvidsm8495
    @susansvidsm8495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so happy you decided to take us on your journey. You certainly are an inspiration to all and are incredibly knowledgeable. I look forward to all the videos that are yet to come!🌈Best wishes on your journey and thank you for giving back to Mother Earth!😊

  • @maureenmalchan7510
    @maureenmalchan7510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad you filmed the before so when the after comes you will see all the effort made and feel even more satisfaction.its going to be many projects but one project at a time and looking at priorities will get you there.I am looking forward to the journey with you.so let's begin!

  • @ruthtretter2628
    @ruthtretter2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It might be fun to leave out some motion triggered cameras to capture wildlife

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We definitely want to get around to it. At night, we see fox, coyote, deer, and skunk so far.

  • @dosydee3259
    @dosydee3259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful property and a lot of work! congratulations... it is beautiful! And i must say that it is better to let plants grow before taking them out too quickly! Many many birds need bushes like rosa multiflora and other wild roses, berberis vulgaris and the „wild“ homeysuckle to build their nest inbetween their twigs and to have their fruit in winter; greetings from Austria!

  • @jenniferbriski567
    @jenniferbriski567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The area you want for low meadow (maybe creeping thyme, wormwood, white flowering clover, etc.) looks to also be where your septic might be located from the white cap - don't drive any heavy machinery or vehicles over that area if that is the case, it could damage the septic.

  • @TaraNicole113322
    @TaraNicole113322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful property.. you guys def have some work ahead. I’m currently looking for a place in Ithaca as well..Hopefully by this spring or early summer. I am down to help you guys! Do you know the name of the nursery that was there previously? Hey.. how about lavender and nasturtiums? Great for pollinators and maybe will do well w that gravelly terrain. I had never seen a hummingbird in my yard til last year when I had nasturtiums! So pretty, edible, and is packed w vitamins. Summer.. I just read they are beneficial to chickens!

  • @lizshoemaker8713
    @lizshoemaker8713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course I’m not well versed in this and I’m sure so many precautions need to be taken, but perhaps some sort of controlled burn can clear the future meadow? Just an idea that popped into my head, I’ve seen it done and I know it’s effective but.. ya know.. it’s fire.

  • @cherylanderson3340
    @cherylanderson3340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My thoughts, FWIW: It's easy to build a movable chicken coop. Plenty of TH-cam homesteaders build them in a few hours. They don't require heated housing, just protection from predators.
    I've seen several who build what they call Chick-Shaws, I think coined by Justin Rhodes, or maybe a Polyface Farm concept. Either way, it's a simple carpentry project.
    They're built on wheels, have nesting areas, easily accessible egg laying boxes, fresh water, & like a rickshaw, there are 2 side boards which attach to a bar so a person can step in, grab the bar, easily lift the thing up & roll it to wherever you like. Some use lightweight electric fences to protect the chickens. You just turn the solar powered fence off, lift the stakes, gather the fence & relocate it. Roll the Hen house into position within the newly fenced in area, leave them fresh water daily, give them organic feed & let them forage on the wild stuff you want to cultivate for a meadow.
    A group of maybe a dozen chickens & roosters, & maybe a couple guard geese will just about remove everything in a few days, then you roll them to the next area. In a month's time they could clear enough area to plant your veggies, & leave the soil fertilized. You'll also have a dozen or more eggs per day.
    You can roll it around to different areas every few days so the chickens can eat the vegetation, scratch for insects & leave their droppings behind - which are way too messy for that nice office! They do fine in the sun & fresh air. At night they go in to sleep & you latch their door until morning.

    • @evelynbetz8138
      @evelynbetz8138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love the moveable chicken coop idea. Their urine and feces will destroy the office....it would be a shame.

    • @cherylanderson3340
      @cherylanderson3340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evelynbetz8138 Maybe, by now they've come to know that it's easier to build a coop & enclosure than to rip out & replace a floor in the office a few times a year.
      If they're moved regularly, it's better for them than to be standing in months of manure & bedding. When moved around they get fresh greens & can forage for bugs while they fertilize new areas lightly

  • @ruthtretter2628
    @ruthtretter2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful! Have you considered blending your interest in natural fibers and perhaps raising a few alpaca? I am a nurse studying RV dwelling American nomads. We would love to see the finger lakes but notice there isn't much public land out there. One option for opening to the public would be to sign up with Harvest Hosts or RV Boondockers welcome. Congratulations on your new paradise.

  • @rociocenteno7169
    @rociocenteno7169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a big project 😎😎 and I’m the same about lawn I like something more productive and not just for the look 😅💚👍🌷

  • @onestrangeanimal3212
    @onestrangeanimal3212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderful place to live! That lake and the forest, wow!

  • @donnaconyers5189
    @donnaconyers5189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing your wonderful property. I just wanted to mention that many of the cultivated barberry are not invasive. They are also great for birds, have wonderful medicinal properties and the berries are actually edible. The bees and other pollinators flock to the tiny flowers in the spring. I have a hedge of this and it is so alive all year long with birds and insects. It also keeps the deer out who come to nibble at it a bit and then move on. I feel for your issues with the multi flora roses. I will caution you with all the 'cutting' of them. It makes them grow more. They really need to be dug out completely with an excavator and burned to really get ahead of them. However, after doing this on my own property they were less and now my sheep eat them as any new sprouts come up so they don't take hold. Good luck and congratulations on your new journey.

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much Donna. And yes, it's a good point, there are some new cultivars of barberry that are bred to be non-invasive, but unfortunately it appears as if the varieties we found so far will need some removal. Though he may have had some newer cultivars that we haven't found yet that are less aggressive. And we started to dig out the roots of the multiflora rose, burn them, and documenting them on a map to keep on top of them. Fingers crossed for us that we can stay on top of them. We may need to borrow your hungry sheep :)

    • @evelynbetz8138
      @evelynbetz8138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even 'sterile' bred Berberis set the occasional seed that is viable. Best to plant native alternatives.

  • @CarlosReyes-sx6ep
    @CarlosReyes-sx6ep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the tour, it’s such a beauty place. The chicken is going to have a mansion AND WiFi haha 😂 I like the interaction between the both of you, and I can totally envision all the changes that guy guys want to make. I will definitely be following you guys on this journey.

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So glad you can see the vision taking shape!

  • @Dekstr_Dekstr
    @Dekstr_Dekstr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing & so exciting can’t wait to see your vision develop, how wonderful ❤️❤️❤️

  • @tanyal7122
    @tanyal7122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    all the beautiful birds you were feeding. Gorgeous!!!! My husband laughs at how excited I get from the birds in my tree, he doesn't get nearly as excited. Super amazing property and great video Summer and Sander!!!

    • @FlockFingerLakes
      @FlockFingerLakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just saw a brown creeper and nearly squealed in delight. So I'm with you!

  • @seeemilyplay6809
    @seeemilyplay6809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a wonderful opportunity! You should check out the Five Rivers Environmental Education Center in Delmar NY which is a great example of land planned for conservation and enriching programming for the community.

  • @glendacox6540
    @glendacox6540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, we’ve long ago minimized lawn area. And we certainly don’t treat or in any way prop it up. Our neighbors hate us. Lol

    • @seedrootsprouts2290
      @seedrootsprouts2290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here. I started designing a more manicured, politically correct garden. Then I went dow the rabbit hole of native species and started designing a wild life garden that will take about half of the lawn in the front and a third of the lawn in the back. The neighbors can learn to deal and will probably begin to enjoy the wildlife sightings and sounds.

    • @glendacox6540
      @glendacox6540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seedrootsprouts2290 yes, while our “ sanctuary “ is hard for most to appreciate, it is quite beautiful. Our yard has been a certified backyard habitat for the last 18 years. We have a pond for the wild critters, a habitat for our foundling domestic rabbits that people drop off at the shelter. Today we have planted over 35 trees. As an old hippie, I care very little what “ The neighbors think“. Sounds like you went down the good kind of rabbit hole.👍🏻✌🏻😍

  • @christianolson2749
    @christianolson2749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely stunning. But, I disagree with leaving non-native plants in place. Natives only should be on a property this beautiful. Play with natives only, rip out all non-natives, including trees; then, get those vegetables in the ground and start farming. If you bring in chickens, etc., then that's okay for organic farming.

  • @garynickel648
    @garynickel648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well it's me again, could not go to sleep, thinking about the small grove of trees you are plotting to murder. Let's just say maybe 300 trees, now if you had 300 brothers and sisters, just because they are a bit sick and ugly, WOULD YOU MURDER THEM?
    And if a few are already dead, here in Western Oklahoma, trees are few and far between, even a dead tree is better than no tree at all. Here birds of prey roost and nest in dead trees. Also from what I can observe in the area, that small Grove of trees, has NO understory vegatation, just grass. No wonder they are not as healthy as the wild forest, go figure. You are wanting to plant some under story trees, so why not the dogwoods and rhododendron ( not sure I got the correct spelling on this word). I dropped out of school mid-way thru 5th grade, and my best subjects were recess and lunch. If you should happen to have a heart and try to save the grove, after planting the under story plants, go to the wild forest about the same elevation, push away some of the leaf, to get to the leaf mold and soil area, gently gather a 5 gallon bucket, from a few locations, bring it to the sick grove, put a hand full at several places till you have empty the bucket, be sure it is covered from direct sunlight, at these locations, water it in if no rain in two days, about a quart per location.
    HAVE a nice day. And I'm happy for y'all.

  • @sidney4329
    @sidney4329 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there also some Juniperus virginiana, the erroneously named Eastern Red Cedar? What do you think of those?

  • @valerierichards6648
    @valerierichards6648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like you have your work cut out for you! Looking forward to watching the transformation unfold.

  • @jasonhatfield4747
    @jasonhatfield4747 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree with getting rid of the turf grass. I'm in the process of getting rid of a large (~1/2 acre) lawn in front of our house and replacing it with prairie plants. It's a 1+ year commitment to prepping the ground before seeding and then it's another 2-3 years for the plants to establish themselves from seeds. Definitely worth it though, especially for feeding the local pollinators and birds, as well as habitat for mammals.

  • @michaelewing1978
    @michaelewing1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just saw this video. We are thinking about moving from Texas and building on 15 raw acres in upstate New York.

  • @romanstefaniv8535
    @romanstefaniv8535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recommend to get more information about Sepp Holzer, he doing awesome permaculture designs. From all of permaculture experts he is my favorite. I hope you can get some good ideas from him. Good luck

  • @heycruelworld
    @heycruelworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aw loved the footage of the bird coming out of the tree Saunders...Coming together slow but full of potential the lands in good hands. Thanks for your time and for sharing

  • @emkn1479
    @emkn1479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just heard a Joe Gardener podcast with Acadia Tucker who seems to have had a somewhat similar experience with regenerating a landscape. Maybe she could be a good resource…?

  • @gailshapiro3673
    @gailshapiro3673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sure wish you all luck with your land, lives and dreams! Keep on keeping on. Just taking care of all the invasives you have there will keep you busy. Every seed of those Barberries are potential new invasive plants as they drop to the ground! And every seed of the honeysuckle the same and that Miscanthus must be taken out by the roots with a tractor! and oh those invasive multiflora roses, I'm doing the same on my 1 acre of property and making my native habitat. It is consuming in a good way as your project will certainly be!

  • @robertpetkus948
    @robertpetkus948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really glad I stumbled across this channel. You are executing a dream of mine. Kudos and thank you for sharing. Is the homestead more a weekend place or are you all living there full time? How many houses do you plan on erecting on the property? Thank you and have a wonderful day!

  • @Jonah100
    @Jonah100 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have wonderful birds. I was wondering if you have house cat(s) and if so do they present a problem for the birds?

  • @hivicar
    @hivicar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about an acre or two of the taller native grasses (Switchgrass, Indiangrass, Bluestems) under 8 hours of sun!

  • @HippocratesGarden
    @HippocratesGarden 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely get some ruminates on that meadow land. If nothing else, let them manage the "mowing" while you focus on the stuff closer to the house. In the meantime they will also be improving the soil (make sure you're at least familiar with rotational grazing / mob grazing rather than just turning them loose on the whole thing at once. Look up Joel Salatin in Virginia for example). While it may take a bit of learning and daily work to move the sheep etc, [maybe make that part of the agreement of someone using the land, they can use it, but they have to do the daily moving as well]. Let the animals be co-laborers. Not to mention, a ruminate grazing does much more than mowing. The tearing, pulling, oral enzymes not to mention excretions are much more than a simple mower does. And, if you follow the ruminate with fowl about 3 days later (depending on the ruminate), the fowl can help control flies via eating grubs, they spread any "patties" around doing yet more work for you, and depositing their own special offerings on the land.

  • @YunaOnHome
    @YunaOnHome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn’t the deer trim the meadows for you? Maybe block them from the forested areas but allow them to do their ecological job? Oh and chicken will love them caterpillars you have a problem with come to think of it.

  • @co5miccharli356
    @co5miccharli356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can dig.. maybe for a weekend, I'll get all green and dirty this spring into summer sometime. I'm sure you aren't denying volunteering even for a little stint? Maybe some education for trade?

  • @michable100
    @michable100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Leave some of the trees laying down when you cut them. They are invaluable habitat for 100's of beetle, gnat and fly species!

  • @oliverblackhall
    @oliverblackhall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooh a lovely fruit and veg patch lovely. If it where up to me I'd have it all planted up haha.