Hi Ken, Nice video. One of the things that I have been considering in the room that I am adding lights to, is leaving enough room between the fixture and wall to not have to deal with the glare. I wonder how that might change lumen readings as well. I hadn’t thought about that until I saw your video. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your informative video! Great information. I have a new construction house with already installed retrofit LED recessed light similar to your light # 1 going into a can. I bought replacement lights that are sagging. Thinking about putting in those wafer lights instead. Can a wafer light go into a can?
Recently put in Halo 6” canless ultra thin. Did not like the glare off the edge. Changed to Halo 6” direct mount baffle trim and …. Lot less edge glare and looks classier. Easy switch between the two, using the hand tighten connector.
Testing was great, provided good information. Unfortunately, I'm looking for kitchen lighting and was hoping to see how the lighting hit on a countertop. I had also been leaning towards 4" for a more modern look. Maybe I'm wrong on that, not sure.
I think you should pick either 4" or 6" and just provide more lights to prevent shadow lines and you will not have to run them 100 full bright to prevent blinding. choose the light with different light colors and dimmable and you will be good.
I think my laundry room could use that 8" and the 6" would work better in numbers for my kitchen and front room. Nice review of these models. Do the backs of these have to be open air? Ie. You can't cover them with the insulation. I have a single story and the roof and trusses are the ceiling above the main living space. I'm concerned about heat loss. I'd image so, just figured I'd ask. I didnt know about that IC rating until this video. First time home owner and I'm gonna need to replace fluorescent ballast's in the near future. I keep joking that the lighting here reminds me of a Bingo hall.
It’s tough discerning quality of led fixtures. I’ve noticed also that some flickered on video taken in slow motion on the IPhone. That can reveal a potential issue for folks who suffer from migraines or need to do a lot of reading when lit by a flickering led. No one wants eye fatigue. I found Kichler brand has no flicker on slow motion video. I’ve tried the one shown here with the baffle and it had perceptible flicker. Thanks for testing these lights. 👍🏻
Heads up on recording any LED device: 1) All LED devices supplied with AC power flicker at a frequency not discernable to the human eye. 2) Be it old CRT displays, CRT television sets, or LEDs soldered to a circuit board, flicker becomes more evident on video recordings when the camera's recording frame rate (such as 24 frames per second) is not synchronized with (or, generally speaking, evenly divisible by) the device's flicker rate, which is usually the same as the AC power frequency (60 Hz in USA, 50Hz overseas). Trivia: for those of us who used CRT computer monitors (think in days of IBM 286 XT Personal Computers, etc.), we would have to increase the monitor's refresh frequency to avoid eye strain and headaches.
What's your take on those MUCH cheaper eBay wafer recess lights? Conduct a test with those. All the cheap brands against each other and where they may be prone to fail
I will see what I can do. I totally hear you because they put in at such a low price, you want to move forward with them. I will try them on my next project. On a worst case scenario, I loss a couple hundred bucks.
@@KenTraining I will share with you that there's a specific cheap eBay sold wafer lights I purchased (6 pcs) that ALL went to crap, i.e. flickering, strobing or entirely not working. I opened them up and saw that they're all using super cheap capacitors that have all failed.
Hi Ken,
Amazing video. Thanks for your effort in putting this together! This takes the guess work out of purchasing these different products!
Great research, was really helpful.
I am in the process of installing recess lights, I am in research phase.
I have found that the WAGO wire connectors are superior to wire nuts, in many ways.
Hi Ken, Nice video. One of the things that I have been considering in the room that I am adding lights to, is leaving enough room between the fixture and wall to not have to deal with the glare. I wonder how that might change lumen readings as well. I hadn’t thought about that until I saw your video. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your informative video! Great information. I have a new construction house with already installed retrofit LED recessed light similar to your light # 1 going into a can. I bought replacement lights that are sagging. Thinking about putting in those wafer lights instead. Can a wafer light go into a can?
they have LED lights that are can installation model.
Amazing video and excellent details
Thank you so much, awesome video
6"-8" Look like 1970's. I only install 4" for myself! Retired Sparky!
Recently put in Halo 6” canless ultra thin. Did not like the glare off the edge.
Changed to Halo 6” direct mount baffle trim and ….
Lot less edge glare and looks classier. Easy switch between the two, using the hand tighten connector.
Testing was great, provided good information. Unfortunately, I'm looking for kitchen lighting and was hoping to see how the lighting hit on a countertop. I had also been leaning towards 4" for a more modern look. Maybe I'm wrong on that, not sure.
I think you should pick either 4" or 6" and just provide more lights to prevent shadow lines and you will not have to run them 100 full bright to prevent blinding. choose the light with different light colors and dimmable and you will be good.
That’s some jacked up drywall!😂
How did you power the switch, please? I want to test some out before I install them.
very simple, I used an extension cord and cut off one end and hard wired to switch and lights.
I think my laundry room could use that 8" and the 6" would work better in numbers for my kitchen and front room.
Nice review of these models.
Do the backs of these have to be open air? Ie. You can't cover them with the insulation. I have a single story and the roof and trusses are the ceiling above the main living space. I'm concerned about heat loss. I'd image so, just figured I'd ask.
I didnt know about that IC rating until this video. First time home owner and I'm gonna need to replace fluorescent ballast's in the near future. I keep joking that the lighting here reminds me of a Bingo hall.
as long as your installed product say "IC rated", you can have insulation in direct contact and still meet code.
It’s tough discerning quality of led fixtures. I’ve noticed also that some flickered on video taken in slow motion on the IPhone. That can reveal a potential issue for folks who suffer from migraines or need to do a lot of reading when lit by a flickering led. No one wants eye fatigue. I found Kichler brand has no flicker on slow motion video. I’ve tried the one shown here with the baffle and it had perceptible flicker. Thanks for testing these lights. 👍🏻
Heads up on recording any LED device:
1) All LED devices supplied with AC power flicker at a frequency not discernable to the human eye.
2) Be it old CRT displays, CRT television sets, or LEDs soldered to a circuit board, flicker becomes more evident on video recordings when the camera's recording frame rate (such as 24 frames per second) is not synchronized with (or, generally speaking, evenly divisible by) the device's flicker rate, which is usually the same as the AC power frequency (60 Hz in USA, 50Hz overseas).
Trivia: for those of us who used CRT computer monitors (think in days of IBM 286 XT Personal Computers, etc.), we would have to increase the monitor's refresh frequency to avoid eye strain and headaches.
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What's your take on those MUCH cheaper eBay wafer recess lights? Conduct a test with those. All the cheap brands against each other and where they may be prone to fail
I will see what I can do. I totally hear you because they put in at such a low price, you want to move forward with them. I will try them on my next project. On a worst case scenario, I loss a couple hundred bucks.
@@KenTraining I will share with you that there's a specific cheap eBay sold wafer lights I purchased (6 pcs) that ALL went to crap, i.e. flickering, strobing or entirely not working. I opened them up and saw that they're all using super cheap capacitors that have all failed.
@@KefirTView you get what you pay for...
Your first mistake is that those are not recessed lights but flush mount lights.
Garbage test