@@Jayhawk9it's live *for the most part*. just go to 1:04 and you will see. even without that, vince can obviously not hit those notes - not in 2005, and definitely not in 2024 lol.
Honestly, for me, Motley Crue died in 2014 when they announced "The Final Tour". I knew it was bullshit right away. And they made such a big stink about it, to the point where they are eating crow. The last tour I saw was the Carnival Of Sins tour, and I knew that they would never be able to top that tour. I mean everything they put into the show was epic, Vince actually sounded great, better than he did on the New Tattoo tour. There's no way in hell that I would waste my money on anything new that they do. I'm not gonna buy a ticket to one of their fake ass shows. I'm not interested in buying singles, I've always been a albums guy. RIP: Motley Crue, you sold out to corporate greed long ago.
The entire vocals are pre recorded! It’s how dogs of war would sound vocally if they did not run Vince’s vocals though auto tune & other computer programs! Hell, I would not be at all surprised if the vocals on dogs of war are not 100% AI!
It’s pre recorded! Vince is not doing any of it live! When you go back & watch video of him before the stadium tour, he sounded like he had food in his mouth singing! Stadium tour to now he is actually putting understandable words to the songs!
You are 100% correct. Vince has made it clear that he doesn't wanna be there, and that he does it for the money. You can tell from interviews that Motley is just a paycheck to him, and hence the memory lapse.
@@Jayhawk9 part of it is live part of it is not live if you pay attention he will see where he stops singing, but you can still hear his voice and you can tell that part is pre-recorded
Dr Feelgood Album era was the last bit of Great Crue. The process of breaking up, getting back together, best of albums and honestly albums that just never rang like their first five, was the beginning of the end. It's sad to see the drive for $$$ to keep the machine running even with obvious performance flaws.
i dont agree, they do add reverb and delays to their mics, he hit it at 1:03 but when he takes his lips away and you can still hear him, its's just a little reverb action, i don't know? I keep watching it and it seems live, that is for sure not the audio from the album, maybe i don't want to believe it
This band literally has a second life to just print money in 2024 if Vince just hunkered down and tried to get better. So many bands from the 80s and 90s and just thriving now with a new fanbase. Otherwise, they will never be on the international radar. They seem content to just roll on as-is.
Didn't these has beens gouge people about ten years ago for tickets to their "final" shows? And didn't they sign a document stating that they wouldn't reunite? Go away already. You haven't souded good since 1990 and Vince hasn't been able to sing a full line, live, since 1985.
its funny how people think its lip synced....um a delay has a predelay that goes 6 sec (or whatever they set it at) to sense the note and create a delay to tail the word out. He only stops singing as the word keeps going to fill out the sound and weak ends he has to words right now. He sounds a lot better than previous vids we all have seen. Going back to old songs is good he is more controlled.
@@Minor_Thinghe’s needing to read the lyrics off the teleprompter constantly. Kinda concerning being he’s been singing these songs since the early 80s.
It’s weird to me that a singer can lose vocal ability and timing simultaneously, you’re right though, seems like they’re calling it in…definitely not bringing it anymore.
I say this in all seriousness. It almost seems like Vince had a small stroke or something since 2019ish. He just doesn't seem all there mentally since they started touring again in 2021. His singing was never amazing, but he just does really weird things with his vocal phrasing that I haven't heard in the past. I can't put my finger on how to explain it. Also, he does zero crowd interaction at all. Which is what made Crue shows fun, even in 2014-2018 when he was still clearly phoning it in. Idk.
To set it straight. Vince isn't faking. It's not recorded vocals but enhancement. All of his cracks in some parts are real, he's not lip synching but there is an enhancement to his vocals in certain parts especially the high notes
It's absolutely pre-recorded vocals. Not sure what your definition of " Enhancement " is, but all the bands are doing it now. Even the Eagles have been caught recently.
I never liked seeing motley Crue live with only one guitar player since I saw them open up for Ozzy on the shout at the Devil tour. They sound so empty playing live. Probably because Nikki Sixx was never playing the bass and it was just McMarse and Tommy Lee playing. I understand he didn’t know how to play bass until recently .. but if it is pre-recorded why would they put shitty vocals. I know what you’re talking about 1:04… that is just a long delay effect. Not lip-synching…. I’m learning every single song off the first two albums. After that I don’t really care for the other stuff. What’s up with John 5’s Joe Biden hair?
when Vince does bad you hate when he does good you hate I believe Vince is doing way better I mean he lost a lot of weight and I bet some of you will hate on him for that to
Vinnie read 3 quarters of the lyrics from the teleprompt at the side down near his feet for what he did sing ! watch em !! people are paying for this dude, thats it repo his ranch!! ... ON WITH THE PRACTISE lol ohhhhh baaaaaaaaaabbbbbyyyyyyyy my top band is embarrissing now
Definitely getting help on the hooks but who gaf he’s older and abused his voice if he needs a little help so be it some bands play completely recorded music and vocals long live Motley!
That was awesome. Thanks for sharing it. John 5 teased the opening lick at the stadium show I saw, I was so hoping they'd play it. Definitely next time. Crue forever. I'm sick of the hate of losers who troll the comments section of stuff they don't even like. What a sad and pathetic existence you must be experiencing. How ungrateful and entitled to project on to guys like this that lived through hell to entertain us and make the world a little brighter for us all. All you're doing is displaying your jealousy and self-loathing for all to see. Your smallness. There's one pre-recorded vocal part to maintain the integrity of the song. Vince is old. I'm getting there and can relate to some of the difficulties he's working through. I'd need a damn auto-cue to remember all the lyrics too. Because I lived and continue to live. And spent many a year living life in the crazy fast lane. Only one who has lived it would understand. You pay the toll-man for it. As Vince has. But he's an absolute legend. And I will love the Crue forever.
Oh, boy... time to school the know-nothings again. Vince isn't lip-synching. The last line in the chorus has a delay tail on it, and it's a trick everyone from Axl, Bach, and other Rock singers use to make the vocals sound bigger. If Vince was lip-synching, he wouldn't be looking at the teleprompter every two seconds, and singing flat. Could the musicians or musically-inclined people here back me up, please? I wish people would stop talking sh*t about stuff they have no clue about.
@@Rjensen2 I've been a musician thirty fives years now, and do music production. How about you? What instrument do you play other than talking out of your ass?
i hear his real voice and backing vocal track, this is better than him just fucking failing at the notes. and other than one part with the bassist, they seem to be playing their instruments. so improvement is here.
Hell, he actually sang most of it. He just couldn’t hit the high note at the end of the chorus. That’s where they flew in that vocal track. Yea it kinda sucks but it’s not that fucking bad. I have more issue with the fact that Vince looks like a zombie deer in the headlights on lithium.
Not only is he lip syncing (badly), he also has to look down at the stage to read the words to the song so he knows what to pretend to sing. This is really pathetic.
I get it john5 was a fan of motley crue. Many people are. But man he is lowering his skills to be their guitarist. He was so much talent and could be in much better bands. Im glad i saw him earlier this year in Lititz, pa. I feel like if vince geacefully bowed out and they got a fresh, young singer, theyd be alot better live and be more motivated
To be fair, as an audio engineer, what you are hearing is delay, its commonly used along with reverb on live vocals. Its not a track (who would make tracks that out of key anyway?).
Good way to ruin my favorit song WTF was this i actually thought Vince could do this song good even now because it isn’t the hardest song to sing but guess i had wrong
I don't know about you guys but I didn't see any lip syncing I heard Vince like he always sings he has never been a good live singer how many people have seen them like 35 40 times like I have. He does what he does and we sing along with the rest
Nikki sixx needs to come to his senses... I'm not talking about Vinny either. John 5 is an amazing guitar player but he is not the sound of motley crue. Mars era of motley should have been the only and ended with him in it
My, my, my, my, my, my
This part is pre-recorded
true.... I saw that too :DDD
It’s live
@@Jayhawk9it's live *for the most part*. just go to 1:04 and you will see. even without that, vince can obviously not hit those notes - not in 2005, and definitely not in 2024 lol.
It sounds like shit either way
@@Jayhawk9 silly fanboy
1:03 watch!!!!!! not on the mike. Soooooooo Sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was down the street watching Godsmack light up Atlantic city on the same night. Sully can sing
Godsmack has this band beat in so many ways
@flights47 absolutely.
1:05😂 Vince Vanilli
Honestly, for me, Motley Crue died in 2014 when they announced "The Final Tour". I knew it was bullshit right away. And they made such a big stink about it, to the point where they are eating crow. The last tour I saw was the Carnival Of Sins tour, and I knew that they would never be able to top that tour. I mean everything they put into the show was epic, Vince actually sounded great, better than he did on the New Tattoo tour. There's no way in hell that I would waste my money on anything new that they do. I'm not gonna buy a ticket to one of their fake ass shows. I'm not interested in buying singles, I've always been a albums guy. RIP: Motley Crue, you sold out to corporate greed long ago.
💯
same here....I only saw them on the 2005 reunion... great show...especially Mick shredding
They were don’t after shout according to my purchases …
This is cringey AF, people paying to see this train wreck amazes me
Sorry you're so miserable!! Try going to the gym or reducing sugar in your diet. It can go a long way. Mayhe even wait until 12 or 1 for any caffeine.
@@AbrahamLeanin Nahhhh man, this is bad.
@@lrh411I agree I was a huge fan of MC . I work Bridgestone area and help set up and I can’t stand them anymore they suck bad
You think this is bad? This is gold compared to how Don Dokken sounds right now.
Stop with your over the top outrage. 🙄
I'm definitely not complaining about the piped in lead vocals on the chorus, just hope it doesn't lead to embarrassing Milli Vanilli mishaps.
I don't even think that they give a shit if they have a Milli Vanilli moment. They are a complete joke now.
@@raymondelaw they don't and neither do their fanboys
The entire vocals are pre recorded! It’s how dogs of war would sound vocally if they did not run Vince’s vocals though auto tune & other computer programs! Hell, I would not be at all surprised if the vocals on dogs of war are not 100% AI!
On a positive note, John 5 is an excellent guitarist and was faithful to Mick's rendition of this awesome song!
Wow, The My O' My line is definitely backing track and sounds to be the original. Posers.
It’s pre recorded! Vince is not doing any of it live! When you go back & watch video of him before the stadium tour, he sounded like he had food in his mouth singing! Stadium tour to now he is actually putting understandable words to the songs!
"we haven't played that since 81, 82," Vince, you played it on the Carnival of Sins Dvd...
You are 100% correct. Vince has made it clear that he doesn't wanna be there, and that he does it for the money. You can tell from interviews that Motley is just a paycheck to him, and hence the memory lapse.
I don't think it's possible for someone to hate something more than I hate Motley Crue.
lol ,I hate them more ,😅😅😅
Then stay away. Far away. Don’t go away mad just go away. Geeks
face it ,they suck 😅😅😅@@Jayhawk9
You can polish a turd only so much and you can’t kick a dead dog back to life…can’t believe people pay for this crap!
If you hate them so much then why did you click on a video of them? Just to share your hate?
Totally recorded vocals. Not even hiding it.
Vince is singing that live. Everyone is live. Vince sounds better here than he has in a very long time. Crossing my fingers it stays this way
@@Jayhawk9 part of it is live part of it is not live if you pay attention he will see where he stops singing, but you can still hear his voice and you can tell that part is pre-recorded
@VincentEllis-John8-12and missing words…lol
I’m the first to be astonished at how bad Vince is…but this is not singing to a track…
@@Jayhawk9 Not even close, 1:06 is a prime example
@@kristianjohnson8787 1:05. It's a track
Dr Feelgood Album era was the last bit of Great Crue. The process of breaking up, getting back together, best of albums and honestly albums that just never rang like their first five, was the beginning of the end. It's sad to see the drive for $$$ to keep the machine running even with obvious performance flaws.
Motley Crue is a fantastic band.They are a very criminally underrated group 🎉🎉
i dont agree, they do add reverb and delays to their mics, he hit it at 1:03 but when he takes his lips away and you can still hear him, its's just a little reverb action, i don't know? I keep watching it and it seems live, that is for sure not the audio from the album, maybe i don't want to believe it
Pre-recorded vocals prior to the concerts to make it sound more believable and current.
This band literally has a second life to just print money in 2024 if Vince just hunkered down and tried to get better. So many bands from the 80s and 90s and just thriving now with a new fanbase. Otherwise, they will never be on the international radar. They seem content to just roll on as-is.
They're a piece of shit anyway because of what they did to pick mars... They don't have any souls
Didn't these has beens gouge people about ten years ago for tickets to their "final" shows? And didn't they sign a document stating that they wouldn't reunite? Go away already. You haven't souded good since 1990 and Vince hasn't been able to sing a full line, live, since 1985.
Thanks Jim! Need more haha
You know it’s bad when fans are wishing for the backing tracks and pre recorded vocals back.. time to hang it up boys, it’s done.
Vince probably COULD still sing most of the mc songs IF: 1. He gets a vocal coach. 2. He gets healthy. 3. He gives a fuck.
No Mick Mars no Crue Period .Nothing against John 5 !
Sure, but it doesn’t matter really when Vince is singing like this. It’s over either way..
@@bjrnsjohnsen1278 John 5 guitar tone sound doesn't suit.
That was the best cassette tape I ever heard!
its funny how people think its lip synced....um a delay has a predelay that goes 6 sec (or whatever they set it at) to sense the note and create a delay to tail the word out. He only stops singing as the word keeps going to fill out the sound and weak ends he has to words right now. He sounds a lot better than previous vids we all have seen. Going back to old songs is good he is more controlled.
Quick Doc! Activate the flux capacitor with your cheesey pre recorded licks and take us back to 1981! It's...not... working!!!
Well well looks very much like recorded vocals at 1:06 into the video. Wonder what else in the show is fake
What else is fake?
Just the fans.😢
Oh man. Wishing it could be like that again. Modern technology is great but Vince looks sad, everyone knows that you gotta go on with show.
Not sure it was fake vocals. Vince sounded just like a 60year should. These guys age too you know.
1:03 FAKE!!!!!
Definitely mixing in fake vocals.
The chorus My My My is a track Vince is lip syncing to.... it 100% obvious.
Have you hear Mick Jagger, Sammy Hagar, Steven Tyler etc?
My My My part is a track Vince is lip syncing over
Wow vocal tracks and ZFG. Incredible
Fav song!
what was the complete setlist
“Not since 81?”….They have been playing this song almost every tour since 2004!
No they haven't what are you talking about lol it was played until like 2005 and then dropped
@@paulsojajr9294 I saw it live in 2012 and 2014 on "the final tour"
Only 3 times.
2004 - 2005
2012 in Vegas for the acoustic set.
2014 - 2015 until the setlist change.
Agree 👍 acute statement @@RockNDrums650
No tf they haven’t 😂😂😂
I don't know why, but it seems to me like Vince is looking so bored and tired recently. Am I only one who thinks that?
But on the other hand his shape is getting still better and better.
@@Minor_Thinghe’s needing to read the lyrics off the teleprompter constantly. Kinda concerning being he’s been singing these songs since the early 80s.
It’s weird to me that a singer can lose vocal ability and timing simultaneously, you’re right though, seems like they’re calling it in…definitely not bringing it anymore.
He's been an alcoholic drug addict for more than 40 years. his brain and body have checked out.
Bored AF he looked. His mouth stopped around 1:03 but the vocal continued. Just stop gouging people
1:05 Wow...just...wow...Paul Stanley is a better lip syncer...
I actually thought that was an echo fade
I say this in all seriousness. It almost seems like Vince had a small stroke or something since 2019ish. He just doesn't seem all there mentally since they started touring again in 2021. His singing was never amazing, but he just does really weird things with his vocal phrasing that I haven't heard in the past. I can't put my finger on how to explain it.
Also, he does zero crowd interaction at all. Which is what made Crue shows fun, even in 2014-2018 when he was still clearly phoning it in. Idk.
Drummer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers looks like Will Ferrell ... and now the guitar player for Motley Crüe looks like Will Ferrell lol
he looks like NIKKI!
To set it straight. Vince isn't faking. It's not recorded vocals but enhancement. All of his cracks in some parts are real, he's not lip synching but there is an enhancement to his vocals in certain parts especially the high notes
😂😂😂
I say the same also
It's absolutely pre-recorded vocals. Not sure what your definition of " Enhancement " is, but all the bands are doing it now. Even the Eagles have been caught recently.
And you’re not an idiot, you’re just enhanced dumb 😂
I never liked seeing motley Crue live with only one guitar player since I saw them open up for Ozzy on the shout at the Devil tour. They sound so empty playing live. Probably because Nikki Sixx was never playing the bass and it was just McMarse and Tommy Lee playing. I understand he didn’t know how to play bass until recently .. but if it is pre-recorded why would they put shitty vocals. I know what you’re talking about 1:04… that is just a long delay effect. Not lip-synching…. I’m learning every single song off the first two albums. After that I don’t really care for the other stuff. What’s up with John 5’s Joe Biden hair?
when Vince does bad you hate when he does good you hate I believe Vince is doing way better I mean he lost a lot of weight and I bet some of you will hate on him for that to
Vince does look and sound much better than he did on the Stadium Tour!
Lifeless performance. John 5 needs to apologize to Rob Zombie and beg for forgiveness and ask to come back.
he’s making 10 x the money no way he’s leaving nikki won’t let him lol
Rob Zombie is a drummer away from having his original line-up together.
Trying to figure out why vince is so out of time with the rest? Perhaps the backing track in his ears was off
The backing track is so good it even sucks like Vince 😂
Vince can't stay in time with the band to save his life. This sucks.
Has to be the money, that's The only reason why John 5 would even be seen with these ROCK STARS LMFAO!! UNREAL
Lol.,still lip syncing
dear god its so bad, and it almost seems they don't care if anyone sees its fake. nikki is barely playing.
Why would John 5 do this to himself?
Probably a paycheck with lots of zeroes in it.
I can't figure out why people still go to see them there's a sucker born every minute.
Most of those vox are pre recorded and live protooled
Not the same with our
MICK MARS
If they remove the vocals...bass....and drums this would have been AWESOME!
When did Jack Russell come aboard?
Lol if he was lip synching would he use a better sounding tape?
Vinnie read 3 quarters of the lyrics from the teleprompt at the side down near his feet for what he did sing ! watch em !! people are paying for this dude, thats it repo his ranch!! ... ON WITH THE PRACTISE lol ohhhhh baaaaaaaaaabbbbbyyyyyyyy my top band is embarrissing now
Practice
Practice...lol
Wow its so obvious he was lip synching at times
Definitely getting help on the hooks but who gaf he’s older and abused his voice if he needs a little help so be it some bands play completely recorded music and vocals long live Motley!
Damn they don't even try to hide the fake vocals ..
still cheezy after all these years.
That was awesome. Thanks for sharing it. John 5 teased the opening lick at the stadium show I saw, I was so hoping they'd play it. Definitely next time.
Crue forever. I'm sick of the hate of losers who troll the comments section of stuff they don't even like. What a sad and pathetic existence you must be experiencing.
How ungrateful and entitled to project on to guys like this that lived through hell to entertain us and make the world a little brighter for us all. All you're doing is displaying your jealousy and self-loathing for all to see. Your smallness.
There's one pre-recorded vocal part to maintain the integrity of the song.
Vince is old. I'm getting there and can relate to some of the difficulties he's working through. I'd need a damn auto-cue to remember all the lyrics too. Because I lived and continue to live. And spent many a year living life in the crazy fast lane. Only one who has lived it would understand. You pay the toll-man for it. As Vince has. But he's an absolute legend. And I will love the Crue forever.
he keeps looking at the words too
Saw Vince pull away from the mic, and there was still singing, wtf? Give it up dude 😅
Memörex Crüe
Oh, boy... time to school the know-nothings again. Vince isn't lip-synching. The last line in the chorus has a delay tail on it, and it's a trick everyone from Axl, Bach, and other Rock singers use to make the vocals sound bigger. If Vince was lip-synching, he wouldn't be looking at the teleprompter every two seconds, and singing flat. Could the musicians or musically-inclined people here back me up, please? I wish people would stop talking sh*t about stuff they have no clue about.
I'll also add that when Nikki has one arm raised and you still hear the bass playing, you don't need to touch the fretboard to play open notes.
No proper musician is going to back you up because you don't know what you are talking about.
@@Rjensen2 I've been a musician thirty fives years now, and do music production. How about you? What instrument do you play other than talking out of your ass?
i hear his real voice and backing vocal track, this is better than him just fucking failing at the notes. and other than one part with the bassist, they seem to be playing their instruments. so improvement is here.
Why does Vince sound like he's constantly rushing to get through the song...and he's so out of key
I went about a minute into it because I love the song. I then said that Vince is ruining the song.
Hell, he actually sang most of it. He just couldn’t hit the high note at the end of the chorus. That’s where they flew in that vocal track. Yea it kinda sucks but it’s not that fucking bad. I have more issue with the fact that Vince looks like a zombie deer in the headlights on lithium.
I’ve seen Motley Crue first time in 85 and 1 million times since then I’m pretty sure he’s lip-synching this song
"1st time live since 2014" is total bullshit. I saw them in Atlanta on 06/16/2022 @Truist Park
They played it 17 times in 2015. Not first time since 2014.
I loved this song on COS tour, but this version, lip sank ot live, was terrible! The band sounded rushed and vocals were just yuck!
people pay for this ?
The best part of this band is gone...Mick Mars
Not only is he lip syncing (badly), he also has to look down at the stage to read the words to the song so he knows what to pretend to sing. This is really pathetic.
Beyond me, I guess little cash make you do a lot of stupid shit!!! 😂😂😂
Not fake, but backing for vocals for extra support… That said, not a big fan of its use.(understand the reality, older bands and all.)
Wow lip syncing the My My My chorus.... These guys are taking fans for suckers.
Lol right at the 1:05 mark
Man, this really blows.
I get it john5 was a fan of motley crue. Many people are. But man he is lowering his skills to be their guitarist. He was so much talent and could be in much better bands. Im glad i saw him earlier this year in Lititz, pa. I feel like if vince geacefully bowed out and they got a fresh, young singer, theyd be alot better live and be more motivated
He won’t be with Crue long term, and it’ll look good on his resume to have been Crue’s lead. Crue is a brand.
He's making bank for an easy gig
Motley Crue doesn't deserve John5
Not a bad show
John 5 does not belong in Motley!
To be fair, as an audio engineer, what you are hearing is delay, its commonly used along with reverb on live vocals. Its not a track (who would make tracks that out of key anyway?).
Good way to ruin my favorit song WTF was this i actually thought Vince could do this song good even now because it isn’t the hardest song to sing but guess i had wrong
Can you sing it like the record probley not
There are cover bands better than they are
I don't know about you guys but I didn't see any lip syncing I heard Vince like he always sings he has never been a good live singer how many people have seen them like 35 40 times like I have. He does what he does and we sing along with the rest
Literal definition of posers.
Vince sounds alot better, AOLT
Nikki Stinxx looks like Sonic the Hedgehog.
John 5 wearing a hairnet!!!
Time to re-retire. Back on tour and still not playing live. Frauds
Clearly lip-syncing and yet still out of key
John5 =Will Farrow in Zoolander
Nikki sixx needs to come to his senses... I'm not talking about Vinny either. John 5 is an amazing guitar player but he is not the sound of motley crue. Mars era of motley should have been the only and ended with him in it
Jesus....
Vince rules! It's just an echo effect of the chorus vocals.
motley spew sucks 😅😅clown show now ,dont go away mad, just go away 😅😅please 😅😅
About some, ANY, stage presence?
I really wish John 5 had stayed with Zombie. ughh
Hahha
Neiley Vanilli
posers...