The cursed thiefs in the Ringed City have similar crystals coming out of them. So I believe it's more likely that Midir's crystals are of similar nature. "He once railed against the dark, but was by dark afflicted. Now here, returned, he remaineth. To watch over the sleeping Princess, true to the old accord. ...And yet, I would have thee put the dragon to rest. Afore the dark consumeth him, and his vows are forgot." Quote from Shira. This makes it clear to me that Midir got cursed (hence the crystals) but is still fighting for his duty. But it won't take too long before he gets consumed completely so he needs to be defeated before that happens.
I don't think Shira is an experiment of Seath, and might just be someone he raised from birth. My guess is that Seath adopted Shira and raised her, therefore giving Shira her title as "daugher of the Duke", but in the sense that she was adopted. I don't think it's uncommon for children who are adopted to call their adopted parents their actual parents, rather than something like a step-parent. I myself am adopted and I call my adopted father my father, mainly because I didn't have anyone else. So basically, my theory is that Seath raised Shira as an adopted daughter, and she was eventually sent to the Ringed City to serve as a knight of Filianore. Also, you did miss a second Duke in the series: the Duke of Tseldora, the one who was super obsessed with spiders. However, like you said, it's pretty likely that Shira is the daughter of Seath and not the Tseldora Duke. Great video though, can't wait to see what else you have in store!
The Ashen Hollow Midir was probably a fun time experiment for Seath. I think Seath implanted those Crystals into Midir in order to eat away at his will and thus make him substantially easier to domesticate for the gods. Shira was his "friend" for the purpose of conditioning Midir to serve the gods. (See crystal staff description)
so if she was adopted, then how come shira is the descendent of the gods. safe to assume they she was maybe created from the Lord soul that gwyn gave to seath, or could it be the dark soul was used to create shira and the Lord soul of seath. with that in mind maybe she is some kind of cross bread who could only speak to midir and including the old gods as well. so in conclusion Midir and shira are artificial beings in the ringed city. both were made to serve and protect however they all have fallen by the darkness and madness due to the ever ending age of fire.
Dukes dear freya the spider has a piece of or found the remains of seeths soul There is also the duke of tseldora. So dukes are a title used in the world of dark souls... Ignoring the game because you want do is still wrong
Mac & Cheese Curse crystals are yellowish. Magic crystals are straight blue hues, but dark crystals are purples. Midir's scales are interwoven with dark crystals, from what I've seen.
@@TheKing-qz9wd and seath's crystals are BLUE/WHITE, so seath DOES NOT make midir, plus, what reasons would seath have for keeping ONE egg of his enimes alive, when 1.) Everlastings, as far as we know, DON'T reproduce because they didn't need to, but their distant non everlasting dragons(like seath but with scales) do need to bread, so midir wouldn't be a everlasting, thus NOT linking him to seath. 2.) The curse crystals don't always have a yellow tint, they sometimes have a purple tint, but most of the time areas where your curse, it's sunset/sunrise which gives a yellow glow/tint, or you could just be embered. 3.) It says RAISED by the GODS, not seath, where would seath get his hands on a not crushed egg, when kalameet was said to be the LAST everlasting dragon, it MEANS it. Sinh is a descendent, like the gapping, so midir is like wise the same, and seath so far has only used HUMAN subjects and HIS blood for his experiments, no other dragons involved. I would say aldria, but he didn't exist yet.
I saw Shira as being the daughter of the First Duke who came before Seethe, the one who previously lorded over the Archives in Anor Londo. I also see Shira’s royal blood/kinship to the gods as being the proof that when Seethe was awarded dukedom, he was also granted a child of royal blood, and was thus gifted Priscilla who unfortunately bore the mirale/curse that was the Life hunt scythe. That’s my interpretation of the lore though.
I do think we should analysis Shira before digging into her lineage. First, she's a figure of faith, even at the end of the world, all her gods are no more, the only living things are you, Gael, her and that dual greatsword fucker, she's still able to cast miracle, strong in faith to her gods, the source of her faith is not mere adoration but loyalty to her family, hence she is truly someone hail from Gwen's family. Second, she must be either immortal or much younger than other members of her family so she can live to the end of the world, considering her attire and armory, it's not difficult to figure out her past identity as a silver knightess, the existence of Ledo proves silver knights are personels with character and that dual greatsword a-hole proves they can live that long, but he was hollowed, Shira, on the other hand, remain humanly appearance, so she must be immortal, like the ancient dragons. Now, let's dive into the idea of her lineage, in eastern cultures like China and Japan, a lord may gift his men with names and titles, in exchange of their service, then, these men would be considered and even refered as "family members" of that lord, not by blood and their sole purpose were to serve the house they sworn to. By that account, Seath is indeed a family member of Gwen, hence those who can claim their link to Seath, is a member of the royal family, but they serve their family instead of actual participating their family practice, for instance, as a handmaiden or a page boy. Back to Shira, she's immortal, she's a "family member" of royal family but she serves another real member of that family, so she must have hailed from one of Gwen's allies, most likely the one who with the ability of immortality, Seath the duke, but does that make her a daughter of Seath? No, if she is literally Seath daughter, that implies Seath has a gender, which is something we never heard of, also, considering your creation as your offspring is not an alien concept for many asian cultures like, once again, Japan.
When you say those are the only dark crystals in the city my mind goes to the curse enemies in the city itself. And when they finally curse you, you die and become crystallized.
So, Midir and Shira are made by Seath. That is why they are a friends. And that is why Shira is called daughter of the duke and descendant of the gods and Midir has crystal on his body and we can get old moonlight sorcery from his soul 😯
Great vidoe! And now the only thing I disagree wtih. I personally belive that midir is not a experiment of seath, this is because they have little connection to each other except the moonlight sword. But you might be thinking what about the crystals that also connect them? If you look at the description of the dark gem it says that they are formed of disembodied humanity, and these are what are found in the abyssal swamp and on midir. Good vidoe though!
What is interesting is that assuming the egg Filianore holds is the egg from whence Dark Eater Midir hatched from, the broken egg is colored black from the inside. The fact the Midir can actually eat the Dark and in extension, the energy of the abyss without dying or worse sooner should show the relationship that ancient dragons had before the rise of the gods and men. This theory is more inspired from a creationist picture reminiscent of the Ash Tree: Yggdrasil. It is like a map of the world of Dark Souls, and at the very bottom is the churning abyss. The Abyss from the depiction creates fire to burn down the arch trees where the dragons lived in. The dragons' trees weren't just homes, but also a means to drain the accumulated darkness inside of themselves, thus avoiding corruption. The stone scales they had made them immortal for the purpose of remaining alive to continue the cycle of purification of the dark. This darkness purging also strengthened the trees, which in turn strengthen their hold over the abyss. Midir's body and anatomy being a direct descendant to ancient, stone-scaled dragons gave him the means to continue that cycle, but without the arch trees around to aid in flushing out that excess darkness, Midir eventually succumbed. If that picture I saw is to be true, then this whole series is based on the Abyss' long-term plan to eliminate both its prison and prison keepers to be free. But in the end, the abyss itself is a "shadow" of its former glory through creating the First Flame, and thus souls. We're all losers, we just didn't know it until it was too late. And to give credit where credit is due, here is the link to that same picture I was inspired by: imgur.com/Kc4ZH4t
Markis2bi4 Ok, where did you get the idea about the Arch trees? I joined the show with some knowledge of the first game and I'm playing 3 right now so what did I miss that you know?
The opening to DS1 shows plenty of light and dark in its world prior to the First Flame. It just wasn't made into distinct powers yet. From DS2, there is this info on dragons and the Abyss: Dragon Scale "Touching an ancient dragon scale gives one a glimpse into the abyss. Believers in the dragon will rise above this petty corporeal existence." In DS2 and 3, there are references to the Abyss being connected with the afterlife and giving rise to ghosts. In 1, there is also the abundance of ghosts in New Londo, a city that had fallen to the Abyss's power.
Maybe the crystals are more a sign of long time of tainting from the abyss. I’ve always been more under the impression that the ringed city was slipping into the abyss. Especially since the crystals color is more of the deep purple instead of the pale blues and white that came with seath.
I always thought the crystals on Midir was from the abyss. The enemies in the ringed city that curse you just from standing next to you are also full of those crystals
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Midir is tasked with eating darkness. Crystal, as we have seen, is a manifestation of curse and darkness (just look at the swamp and the curse boys running around with crystals on their back) so I think you're wrong with your deduction of linking Midir to Seath because it seems like the crystals are similar to the curse boys and thus a manifestation of darkness.
It certainly could be, but the problem I see with that is that the crystals of curse are the same as the Dark Gem. Crystals and gems are different from one another. That and its born of disembodied humanity, which makes sense for humans, but not for dragons.
Arguably the gems are gemstones infused with their surroundings, so the dark gem we find in TRC is a gemstone infused with dark. Thus, the connection with the Primordial Crystal is with gems, and not the crystals we see throughout. Also, Midir's rocky skin looks highly similar to the skin of the cursing minions. Cursing has a weird specific metaphysical/symbolic meaning; a the manifestation of Curse on Midir may have been to blind him instead of making him stone/crystal the way Cursing affects undead by turning them into stone/crystal. I think this is significant since DS1 turns you to stone and Dragons are already partially stone.
@@TheAshenHollow well, you would be right, but you got to remember, like seath, midir was gifted a soul, which CAN be corrupted with dark, and midir doesn't have the everlasting scales to protect him. Also, look at gapping, he is a twisted dragon due to hunger, and the everlasting didn't need to eat, so if anything, it makes sense for midir to be affected.
I do think Shira & Midir do reflect a lot of from Seath & Gwyn in DS1. Seath was loyal to Gwyn and lived in seclusion close to the royal family. I definitely think Shira & Midir were meant to parallel Seath & Gwyn from DS1.
Yes. That lore was probably used to set up the character of Midir to make him feel more connected to the world of Dark Souls when we see him in the Ring City dlc
Seath is not the only Duke we know of in Dark Souls. There's also the duke of Tseldora, you know, the one The Duke's Dear Freja is named after. The guy whose hollowed corpse still wanders the halls just to the right of Freja's boss room. The one that people suspect might be Aldia. Who was really into Dragons. Who was royalty. Just putting it out there.
@@Battleguild without any outside help, so midir has no soul to be consumed by the abyss, but can't use his beam & humanity swarm, which comes from the abyss, and seath can't use those crystals, OR his sorcery which comes from souls, so midir, would win, not only because he can fly better, but he is alot more unpredictable than seath, and much more primal beserker powers than seath, but seath does have alot more intelligence, not ment in the sorcery way, and could easily think up a plan to trick and defeat midir. The real question is, who would win in THIS fight: kalameet vs. Sinh.
I deeply enjoy your thoughts and ideas. You have such a creative way of putting everything together, sadly all this lore means nothing now that it's clear that From never cared as much as we did. That being said, I think Shira is another creation of Seath. She fits the bill, white hair, association with dragons, incredible power despite her size.
How do all undead learn of estus? Did they read about it in life? Is some mysterious entity handing them out as an undead is newly affeceted by the curse?
Maybe Pricilla is the Firstborn’s daughter. She considered an abomination to the gods but I highly doubt they would kill their own kin. After all the Firstborn was still alive.
So. If I take all the info presented in this video then the only logical answer is that Shira is Velka. Just kidding. Love all your time and effort you put into these videos and eagerly await the next one. Keep up the great work!
I think people try too hard to make DS1 lore fit into DS3 lore Miyazaki didn’t original intend for there to be a Dark Souls 2, remember that he refused to direct it. That means he wasn’t writing for sequels when he wrote DS1. He left us plenty of hints that the way we did things in DS1 is not how they happened as far as DS3 is concerned, so we should probably only assume DS1 lore is still canon if it is confirmed in DS3
So I'm kinda curious is ludleth of Courtland the chosen undead? Because wouldn't the chosen undead be a cinderlord and he was sent to the asylum as an exile I think
So I know the Duke of Tseldora has already been mentioned, but I think I should also remind you that Tseldora is, itself, situated within the remains of the crystal caverns beneath Seath's archives, albeit nearly completely mined away. I wouldn't count out the idea that the duke in question is, in fact, the Duke of Tseldora (who himself may be the spiritual reincarnation of Seath anyway.)
@@TheAshenHollow but then, why do you end up fighting her? Ypur not lost to the abyss, and why does she have lighting arrow miracle? She was planning to kill him from the start I tell you!!!!
@@wingedflyingforce5139 Super super late reply but it's probably a safe bet that she went insane and/or hollow, like many if not most of the enemies you end up fighting
@@wingedflyingforce5139 she fights you because you awakened Filianore. And she has lighting arrows because it's a miracle that women would use in ancient times
one thing I thought you would bring up, is the possibility of Midir meeting Seath as a young dragon. As you get the old moonlight spell from his soul. this would only strengthen your argument.
But that doesn't make full sense, you get the moonlight sword it's self from ocerious who, although obsessed with seath, never met him, and seath had the sword, so....
@@wingedflyingforce5139 The Moonlight Great sword in Dark Souls 3 could just be a recreation of the one in Dark Souls 1 since King Ocerious was Seath's #1 fan but never got to meet him
Midir is also blind and has 4 wings, both traits share with Seathe. I will point out the Crystals on Seathe and in the Crystal Cave are not dark. I do agree with you that the crystals are likely the same as from the land surrounding the Archives and the Crystals on Midir's body are likely inherited from his father - very interesting btw I hadn't even considered Shira and Midir being sexcessful sexpiriments of Seathe. However, these crystals appear obviously tainted by the Dark. I'd like to point out to what happens to a character in DS3 when cursed... shit-ton of dark crystals... and instant death. The nature of the crystals on Midir may very well be different, but he is descended from archdragons so will likely not die from these cursed crystals. Either way, another delightful video, thank you very much.
It makes her a casual estus chugging bitch. Haha, nah but it's possible she's undead, or it could just be a healing mechanic. It's hard to tell sometimes. =/
But the mad king is dead and REALLY small, plus, fillinore is a GOD, and "gods" don't have the dark in them, which the mad king DID. also, the mad king is on shira's mace.
I actually think the crystals on Midir are in fact due to his corruption to the dark. They look exactly like the Dark Gems used to infuse weapons.
Midir is not the only being covered in dark crystals. The curse-pygmies are also covered in those....
The cursed thiefs in the Ringed City have similar crystals coming out of them. So I believe it's more likely that Midir's crystals are of similar nature.
"He once railed against the dark, but was by dark afflicted. Now here, returned, he remaineth.
To watch over the sleeping Princess, true to the old accord.
...And yet, I would have thee put the dragon to rest.
Afore the dark consumeth him, and his vows are forgot."
Quote from Shira. This makes it clear to me that Midir got cursed (hence the crystals) but is still fighting for his duty. But it won't take too long before he gets consumed completely so he needs to be defeated before that happens.
And both the crystals on the hollow thieves & Seath's crystal breath cause curse to build up.
If he’s cursed are you telling me he only has half his health !?
I don't agree with most of your theory but the fact that the egg is midir's is a really good point that makes a lot of sense
I don't think Shira is an experiment of Seath, and might just be someone he raised from birth. My guess is that Seath adopted Shira and raised her, therefore giving Shira her title as "daugher of the Duke", but in the sense that she was adopted. I don't think it's uncommon for children who are adopted to call their adopted parents their actual parents, rather than something like a step-parent. I myself am adopted and I call my adopted father my father, mainly because I didn't have anyone else. So basically, my theory is that Seath raised Shira as an adopted daughter, and she was eventually sent to the Ringed City to serve as a knight of Filianore.
Also, you did miss a second Duke in the series: the Duke of Tseldora, the one who was super obsessed with spiders. However, like you said, it's pretty likely that Shira is the daughter of Seath and not the Tseldora Duke.
Great video though, can't wait to see what else you have in store!
That's certainly a possibility as well! =)
The Ashen Hollow Midir was probably a fun time experiment for Seath.
I think Seath implanted those Crystals into Midir in order to eat away at his will and thus make him substantially easier to domesticate for the gods.
Shira was his "friend" for the purpose of conditioning Midir to serve the gods.
(See crystal staff description)
so if she was adopted, then how come shira is the descendent of the gods. safe to assume they she was maybe created from the Lord soul that gwyn gave to seath, or could it be the dark soul was used to create shira and the Lord soul of seath. with that in mind maybe she is some kind of cross bread who could only speak to midir and including the old gods as well.
so in conclusion Midir and shira are artificial beings in the ringed city. both were made to serve and protect however they all have fallen by the darkness and madness due to the ever ending age of fire.
"The only duke we hear about in dark souls is seath, right?" **cough*Dark Souls 2*cough**
no such thing
The fuck is a Dark Souls 2?
I think he means Bloodborne
It´s the first souls game i played and my hearth breaks a little bit everytime it´s ignored XD. You broke my hearth Ashen!!! Shame
Dukes dear freya the spider has a piece of or found the remains of seeths soul
There is also the duke of tseldora.
So dukes are a title used in the world of dark souls...
Ignoring the game because you want do is still wrong
Crystals mean two things:
Something is cursing you or something is got relation to something about sorcery.
The idea that Shira and Midir are technically brother and sister is an adorable thought.
AINT EVEN GOT LEGSSSS.
ain't EVEN got LEGS
Isn't the crystals in the ringed city the ones of curse, because when you get cursed, your body get covered in those same crystals
Mac & Cheese
Curse crystals are yellowish. Magic crystals are straight blue hues, but dark crystals are purples.
Midir's scales are interwoven with dark crystals, from what I've seen.
@@TheKing-qz9wd and seath's crystals are BLUE/WHITE, so seath DOES NOT make midir, plus, what reasons would seath have for keeping ONE egg of his enimes alive, when
1.) Everlastings, as far as we know, DON'T reproduce because they didn't need to, but their distant non everlasting dragons(like seath but with scales) do need to bread, so midir wouldn't be a everlasting, thus NOT linking him to seath.
2.) The curse crystals don't always have a yellow tint, they sometimes have a purple tint, but most of the time areas where your curse, it's sunset/sunrise which gives a yellow glow/tint, or you could just be embered.
3.) It says RAISED by the GODS, not seath, where would seath get his hands on a not crushed egg, when kalameet was said to be the LAST everlasting dragon, it MEANS it. Sinh is a descendent, like the gapping, so midir is like wise the same, and seath so far has only used HUMAN subjects and HIS blood for his experiments, no other dragons involved. I would say aldria, but he didn't exist yet.
I saw Shira as being the daughter of the First Duke who came before Seethe, the one who previously lorded over the Archives in Anor Londo. I also see Shira’s royal blood/kinship to the gods as being the proof that when Seethe was awarded dukedom, he was also granted a child of royal blood, and was thus gifted Priscilla who unfortunately bore the mirale/curse that was the Life hunt scythe. That’s my interpretation of the lore though.
How's it feel, Seath
Alseid Amazing
Bitch aint got legss
To be a bitch
I do think we should analysis Shira before digging into her lineage.
First, she's a figure of faith, even at the end of the world, all her gods are no more, the only living things are you, Gael, her and that dual greatsword fucker, she's still able to cast miracle, strong in faith to her gods, the source of her faith is not mere adoration but loyalty to her family, hence she is truly someone hail from Gwen's family.
Second, she must be either immortal or much younger than other members of her family so she can live to the end of the world, considering her attire and armory, it's not difficult to figure out her past identity as a silver knightess, the existence of Ledo proves silver knights are personels with character and that dual greatsword a-hole proves they can live that long, but he was hollowed, Shira, on the other hand, remain humanly appearance, so she must be immortal, like the ancient dragons.
Now, let's dive into the idea of her lineage, in eastern cultures like China and Japan, a lord may gift his men with names and titles, in exchange of their service, then, these men would be considered and even refered as "family members" of that lord, not by blood and their sole purpose were to serve the house they sworn to. By that account, Seath is indeed a family member of Gwen, hence those who can claim their link to Seath, is a member of the royal family, but they serve their family instead of actual participating their family practice, for instance, as a handmaiden or a page boy.
Back to Shira, she's immortal, she's a "family member" of royal family but she serves another real member of that family, so she must have hailed from one of Gwen's allies, most likely the one who with the ability of immortality, Seath the duke, but does that make her a daughter of Seath? No, if she is literally Seath daughter, that implies Seath has a gender, which is something we never heard of, also, considering your creation as your offspring is not an alien concept for many asian cultures like, once again, Japan.
When you say those are the only dark crystals in the city my mind goes to the curse enemies in the city itself. And when they finally curse you, you die and become crystallized.
So, Midir and Shira are made by Seath. That is why they are a friends. And that is why Shira is called daughter of the duke and descendant of the gods and Midir has crystal on his body and we can get old moonlight sorcery from his soul 😯
Midir, the dragon Artorias. Cool video!
Great vidoe! And now the only thing I disagree wtih.
I personally belive that midir is not a experiment of seath, this is because they have little connection to each other except the moonlight sword. But you might be thinking what about the crystals that also connect them?
If you look at the description of the dark gem it says that they are formed of disembodied humanity, and these are what are found in the abyssal swamp and on midir.
Good vidoe though!
What is interesting is that assuming the egg Filianore holds is the egg from whence Dark Eater Midir hatched from, the broken egg is colored black from the inside. The fact the Midir can actually eat the Dark and in extension, the energy of the abyss without dying or worse sooner should show the relationship that ancient dragons had before the rise of the gods and men.
This theory is more inspired from a creationist picture reminiscent of the Ash Tree: Yggdrasil. It is like a map of the world of Dark Souls, and at the very bottom is the churning abyss. The Abyss from the depiction creates fire to burn down the arch trees where the dragons lived in. The dragons' trees weren't just homes, but also a means to drain the accumulated darkness inside of themselves, thus avoiding corruption. The stone scales they had made them immortal for the purpose of remaining alive to continue the cycle of purification of the dark. This darkness purging also strengthened the trees, which in turn strengthen their hold over the abyss.
Midir's body and anatomy being a direct descendant to ancient, stone-scaled dragons gave him the means to continue that cycle, but without the arch trees around to aid in flushing out that excess darkness, Midir eventually succumbed. If that picture I saw is to be true, then this whole series is based on the Abyss' long-term plan to eliminate both its prison and prison keepers to be free. But in the end, the abyss itself is a "shadow" of its former glory through creating the First Flame, and thus souls. We're all losers, we just didn't know it until it was too late.
And to give credit where credit is due, here is the link to that same picture I was inspired by:
imgur.com/Kc4ZH4t
Markis2bi4
Ok, where did you get the idea about the Arch trees? I joined the show with some knowledge of the first game and I'm playing 3 right now so what did I miss that you know?
That's pretty spicy! I like that shit! =)
Except the ancient dragons would have no need to fight the dark as there was no dark in their time
The opening to DS1 shows plenty of light and dark in its world prior to the First Flame. It just wasn't made into distinct powers yet. From DS2, there is this info on dragons and the Abyss: Dragon Scale "Touching an ancient dragon scale
gives one a glimpse into the abyss. Believers in the dragon will rise above this petty corporeal existence."
In DS2 and 3, there are references to the Abyss being connected with the afterlife and giving rise to ghosts. In 1, there is also the abundance of ghosts in New Londo, a city that had fallen to the Abyss's power.
Maybe the crystals are more a sign of long time of tainting from the abyss. I’ve always been more under the impression that the ringed city was slipping into the abyss. Especially since the crystals color is more of the deep purple instead of the pale blues and white that came with seath.
She uses an estus flask when you fight her, which led me to believe that she's human (and undead when you find her after the skip forward)
I always thought the crystals on Midir was from the abyss. The enemies in the ringed city that curse you just from standing next to you are also full of those crystals
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Midir is tasked with eating darkness. Crystal, as we have seen, is a manifestation of curse and darkness (just look at the swamp and the curse boys running around with crystals on their back) so I think you're wrong with your deduction of linking Midir to Seath because it seems like the crystals are similar to the curse boys and thus a manifestation of darkness.
It certainly could be, but the problem I see with that is that the crystals of curse are the same as the Dark Gem. Crystals and gems are different from one another. That and its born of disembodied humanity, which makes sense for humans, but not for dragons.
Arguably the gems are gemstones infused with their surroundings, so the dark gem we find in TRC is a gemstone infused with dark. Thus, the connection with the Primordial Crystal is with gems, and not the crystals we see throughout. Also, Midir's rocky skin looks highly similar to the skin of the cursing minions. Cursing has a weird specific metaphysical/symbolic meaning; a the manifestation of Curse on Midir may have been to blind him instead of making him stone/crystal the way Cursing affects undead by turning them into stone/crystal. I think this is significant since DS1 turns you to stone and Dragons are already partially stone.
still in the Duke's archives you can see undead hollows affected with crystals, perhaps this "curse boys" are something similar
@@TheAshenHollow well, you would be right, but you got to remember, like seath, midir was gifted a soul, which CAN be corrupted with dark, and midir doesn't have the everlasting scales to protect him. Also, look at gapping, he is a twisted dragon due to hunger, and the everlasting didn't need to eat, so if anything, it makes sense for midir to be affected.
I do think Shira & Midir do reflect a lot of from Seath & Gwyn in DS1. Seath was loyal to Gwyn and lived in seclusion close to the royal family. I definitely think Shira & Midir were meant to parallel Seath & Gwyn from DS1.
"There's definitely some fuckery going on here"
Dark Souls in a nutshell
Please do a whole video on midir, you and fungo are my favorites. Although smoughtown is pretty dope too.
I think the item description for Old Moonlight could be a reference to another of From Software's games
Those dark purple crystals are on the enemies that curse you in the ringed city too
Was Mdir the abyss dragon those vikings were fighting?
I think Midir is the baby dragon in ash lake in ds 1
Yes. That lore was probably used to set up the character of Midir to make him feel more connected to the world of Dark Souls when we see him in the Ring City dlc
AIN'T EVEN GOT LEGS
The Plague of Gripes shoutout xD
Is dark souls series, there is a second Duke. The Duke's Dear Freya, though I'm not sure we know who the Duke is
Dont even need it.
Drbrielis Amazing, Amaaaazing
How's it feel seath?
To be a bitch
What about the duke's dear freja?
Seath is not the only Duke we know of in Dark Souls. There's also the duke of Tseldora, you know, the one The Duke's Dear Freja is named after. The guy whose hollowed corpse still wanders the halls just to the right of Freja's boss room.
The one that people suspect might be Aldia. Who was really into Dragons. Who was royalty.
Just putting it out there.
Seath vs Midir
Midir, since he is resistant to magic
would be interesting to see
Seath is normally weak without primordial crystal. Midir could have One-Shot him with his Godzilla laser.
Seath wins through attrition if primordial crystal isn't broken.
@@Battleguild without any outside help, so midir has no soul to be consumed by the abyss, but can't use his beam & humanity swarm, which comes from the abyss, and seath can't use those crystals, OR his sorcery which comes from souls, so midir, would win, not only because he can fly better, but he is alot more unpredictable than seath, and much more primal beserker powers than seath, but seath does have alot more intelligence, not ment in the sorcery way, and could easily think up a plan to trick and defeat midir. The real question is, who would win in THIS fight: kalameet vs. Sinh.
I'm just wondering how midir can even fly with those big holes in his wings
There not that big, plus the real question is how SEATH can fly with those small @$$ butterfly wings, on a LARGE, FAT, legless b*tch of a body.
what do you think about the little creatures that shoot little lighting spears that sprout dark crystals from their back?
Those are Midir's poops.
The Ashen Hollow this is cannon
@@stinkmonger no it's not, if anything, they gave midir the crystal disease.
I deeply enjoy your thoughts and ideas. You have such a creative way of putting everything together, sadly all this lore means nothing now that it's clear that From never cared as much as we did.
That being said, I think Shira is another creation of Seath. She fits the bill, white hair, association with dragons, incredible power despite her size.
I don't understand? A ashen hollow lore video with no mention of Velka? What is this heresy?
what about duke's dear freja? which duke is that
How do all undead learn of estus? Did they read about it in life? Is some mysterious entity handing them out as an undead is newly affeceted by the curse?
Maybe Pricilla is the Firstborn’s daughter. She considered an abomination to the gods but I highly doubt they would kill their own kin. After all the Firstborn was still alive.
So. If I take all the info presented in this video then the only logical answer is that Shira is Velka.
Just kidding. Love all your time and effort you put into these videos and eagerly await the next one. Keep up the great work!
When Seath did a touchdown,he was in pain becuase he is all fucked up.
I think people try too hard to make DS1 lore fit into DS3 lore
Miyazaki didn’t original intend for there to be a Dark Souls 2, remember that he refused to direct it. That means he wasn’t writing for sequels when he wrote DS1. He left us plenty of hints that the way we did things in DS1 is not how they happened as far as DS3 is concerned, so we should probably only assume DS1 lore is still canon if it is confirmed in DS3
So I'm kinda curious is ludleth of Courtland the chosen undead? Because wouldn't the chosen undead be a cinderlord and he was sent to the asylum as an exile I think
So I know the Duke of Tseldora has already been mentioned, but I think I should also remind you that Tseldora is, itself, situated within the remains of the crystal caverns beneath Seath's archives, albeit nearly completely mined away. I wouldn't count out the idea that the duke in question is, in fact, the Duke of Tseldora (who himself may be the spiritual reincarnation of Seath anyway.)
she's the final enemy in the game, so in a way she's the true final boss of the entire series
There are dark cristals on the back of the cused ennemies in the ringed city.
She has the blood of the furtive pygmy, the traditional gods we know of cannot withstand the dark.
that'd be sick. dark dragon breath.
But that IS what midir's lazer beam is, it's a version of soul stream, used like the demon prince's lazer, and with the side affect of crystals.
Did you just consider that in a kingdom of gods, there might be more than one duke in existence?
Ass Butt but the crown mentions man eating shells which are found right before seath. So I think the düke they are talking about is definetly seath.
I wondered about the Old Moonlight spell.
Well if she’s a descendant of gods she could easily be a bastard of Lloyd, Fina, Caitha, or any other god and was just taken by Seath to be raised.
when the bud looks like midir
Could Yorshka be a Product of Seath combining with the lord soul making Yorshka child of Gwyn and Seath
If SHira and Midr were friends why can you summon her to fight Midir never understood that
For the same reason she sends you to kill him. He's fallen corrupt to the Dark and she doesn't want to see him in any more agony!
@@TheAshenHollow but then, why do you end up fighting her? Ypur not lost to the abyss, and why does she have lighting arrow miracle? She was planning to kill him from the start I tell you!!!!
@@wingedflyingforce5139 Super super late reply but it's probably a safe bet that she went insane and/or hollow, like many if not most of the enemies you end up fighting
@@wingedflyingforce5139 she fights you because you awakened Filianore. And she has lighting arrows because it's a miracle that women would use in ancient times
Why does Dark Souls 3 have so many friends killing each other??????
one thing I thought you would bring up, is the possibility of Midir meeting Seath as a young dragon. As you get the old moonlight spell from his soul. this would only strengthen your argument.
But that doesn't make full sense, you get the moonlight sword it's self from ocerious who, although obsessed with seath, never met him, and seath had the sword, so....
@@wingedflyingforce5139 The Moonlight Great sword in Dark Souls 3 could just be a recreation of the one in Dark Souls 1 since King Ocerious was Seath's #1 fan but never got to meet him
how's it feeeeel seath?
R De to be a bitch...
Midir is also blind and has 4 wings, both traits share with Seathe. I will point out the Crystals on Seathe and in the Crystal Cave are not dark. I do agree with you that the crystals are likely the same as from the land surrounding the Archives and the Crystals on Midir's body are likely inherited from his father - very interesting btw I hadn't even considered Shira and Midir being sexcessful sexpiriments of Seathe. However, these crystals appear obviously tainted by the Dark. I'd like to point out to what happens to a character in DS3 when cursed... shit-ton of dark crystals... and instant death. The nature of the crystals on Midir may very well be different, but he is descended from archdragons so will likely not die from these cursed crystals. Either way, another delightful video, thank you very much.
There is also the Duke of Tseldora.
What's the item inside Shira's room and how do I get it?
You can get inside her room by killing her in the chapel to the right of the giant desert, which causes the door to open leading to her armor set.
+Just a guy
What Neo said! And it's her armor! =)
She came from The Shannara Chronicles
Details like this is why 'Souls Like' isn't a real thing to me, as only the SoulsBorne series never seizes to amaze me with it's lore and depth.
There is another duke. Duke Tseldora. I'm sure it means nothing though
Shira chugs estus when you fight her so that makes her an undead... right?
It makes her a casual estus chugging bitch. Haha, nah but it's possible she's undead, or it could just be a healing mechanic. It's hard to tell sometimes. =/
@@TheAshenHollow Tis the struggle of balancing the lore/story with the game-play
a duke was also seduced by freja the spider in dark souls 2 and you cut him down
Maybe Shira is the dovakiin of the Dark Souls universe.
I don't think so, as dragons DON'T have souls. So... dragon blooded like bretons more likely?
She might just be adopted by Seath
Great video good job and even without velka xd
There is also duke tseldora, but i think we dont speak dark souls 2 around here
Duke from dukes dear freja
"Fabulous bitch Seath!!!"
Inspired
HAIL GWYNEVIER QUEEN OF SUN LIGHT!!!!
You just reminded me why I don't play dark souls 3 anymore, ng+4 midir, please kill me :D
Casul (Real men play NG+7)
Stil know nothing XD
First and woohoo midir!
Shira is of Gywn's bloodline, Fillinore is the daughter of the Mad King not Gywn. Duke is a just a Title.
But the mad king is dead and REALLY small, plus, fillinore is a GOD, and "gods" don't have the dark in them, which the mad king DID. also, the mad king is on shira's mace.
Hey Jake can you make a white "racist" joke on your next video so I can come here and whine about it?