My year long battle of fighting for Shanks innocence and claiming that that was his evil twin in chapter 907 has finally come to fruition. I can retire now because of my stocks just hit the moon.😂
Remember all those memes about how little time screen Shanks gets? Jokes on us, some of those rare scenes we got of him... it wasn't even actually him.
Ohara was destroyed in order to eliminate the books. Egghead was destroyed in order to eliminate Dr. Vegapunk. Now the books and Vegapunk, both of them are in Elbaph. What is the future of Elbaph???
Giants are about the dumbest mfers on the globe. "Fighting" is toxic, so they're teaching their newer generations to not become warriors, but they brought over books from Ohara that would cause the World Government to literally commit genocide to bury... Yeah, Elbaph about to get nuked and Luffy is gonna let it happen again like he did with OG Vegapunk.
Also Luffy saw Jinbei do it right before they raided Onigashima, and he was sitting across from Bege during Whole Cake Island so he's had a few yakusa flavored interactions recently
@@ReiseLukasYou got it right. He’s mimicking Jinbei’s speech during his arrival at Onigashima. The characters used in Japanese for Luffy’s lines are used when Oda wants to show a character doesn’t know what he’s talking about, indicating he’s mimicking Jinbei, and even says lines very similar to Jinbei’s speech that wouldn’t make sense in the context of the current scene because they made way more sense when Jinbei said it
I thought Luffy's formality was inspired by Jinbe joining the crew in Wano? Both of the scenes and poses are very similar, and I could totally see Luffy copying that pose to express similar gratitude.
When whitebeard told shanks that seeing his face makes his scar ache, perhaps he was actually referring to shanks twin, which would make this a way earlier setup than we thought.
@@Shiva_God_of_D ever since we learned about Shanks be linked to the celestial dragons, I looked back at chapter 907 and realize how suspicious that character was to cover his identification (scar on the left eye, missing left arm, shitty pirate outfit). And in the God Valley flashback Garling spoke to somebody off panel and referred them as children, meaning more than one child. That’s when I believed that shanks more than likely had a twin brother that was at chapter 907.
Hello funny internet man, I read a thread someone made about how Shanks and his twin brother could be mirroring Hati and Sköll from Norse mythology!! Hati (shanks) chases the moon (Blackbeard) and Sköll (shank’s brother) chases the Sun (Luffy). Ragnarok signifies when they are both caught!!!
What if shank's brother chained up Loki for thinking he was the real Nika, so the Sun god he was chasing? Only afterwards he knew about Luffy and told the Gorosei and they acted on Wano via CP0 and directly on Egghead... It's starting to make sense...
I'm starting to feel that Loki has the real Gum Gum fruit that everyone thought was the real Nika. The legend tells that his body had the exact property of rubber so they couldn't know better...And maybe the Gum Gum was dreamt from a wish of hiding Nika...
@@DANCERcowyet what are the odds that's the first thing he brought up if that was why he did it? He hasn't had contact with the outside in nearly a decade, there's no way he would have known about him and shanks having a connection.
I don't know, shanks became an emperor 6 years ago, and Loki has been imprisoned 6 years ago, unless it was shonks/thanks/planks/shenks/shunks who imprisoned him, and then the world got tricked into thinking it was shanks
One more interesting part you forgot to mention was how the book(s) in that library are gigantic now, maybe it's a hint that giants were also once ordinary humans after all.
@@ddenozor Yes, but if there is a mechanism which can make books larger then there must be one which has made humans giant as well. we already know there were failed experiments on it through ceasar, perhaps this was actually achieved in the ancient kingdom which made humans larger and similar technology is now being used on the books.
@@Aether_GMI don’t think those are the same people. I find pervert gags AND the community’s hyperattention to the bodies of female characters both extremely cringe.
I'm convinced King Harold's "last request" was another Oden situation where things aren't as they seem. I'm convinced the wish to make the Elbaf giants "peaceful" is to actually make them more "docile" so that they won't be ready to fight when Ragnarok comes, and they can be wiped out.
I think the reason Loki hates kindness is because when he first met Lola & gave her the flower, she probably said "that's very kind of you" so after Lola broke his heart, he now despises kindness.
Okay, wild theory, Loki’s offer to destroy any one pirate crew in exchange for freedom was foreshadowing a future team up of Loki and frank, frank will free Loki, and in exchange frank will ask for Loki to defeat the straw hat crew
i think loki might have some sort of odin knowledge/future telling fruit. And he’s not lying about becoming the sun god because he will be transformed by luffy/bonny at some point. His eyes are covered, odin sacrifices an eye for knowledge. Shit, however unlikely, dude could be the eyepatch pirate
nah it's all balanced as always...with Oda there's just extremes and no middle ground. In the same chapter he introduced Ripley, he also introduced Ange...for every Nami there's a pre-DF Alvida out there
I think Bad Shanks was the one who actually killed former King Harald, and not only framed Loki, but did something to him to make him talk as if he was truly bloodthirsty, and when the Good Shanks rolled up he helped in apprehending Loki. This also in turn can explain why Loki has such a massive distaste for Shanks. If you notice the back ground where the Bad Shanks teleported to you can clearly see it's the throne room, and it has a massive slash mark on the throne, caused by who ever killed King Harald, and this Bad Shanks managed to not only teleport to Elbaf, but exactly in front of the throne. We also know for sure Elders can travel between places 1 Elder is, or HAVE been such is the case with Mars since he was able to travel back to Mary Geoise after being sent off flying.
@@sarafontanini7051 The right side of the face is shown but Shank's characteristic scar is on the left side. So until we see the full face of this person ± his arms, we can't say with any certainty who it is
1:25 He was formal on a few occasions; right after Vivi taught him to be humble, in order to save Nami on Drum Island, and after he was captured by Hancock's subjects for saving his own hide.
Here’s the thing about the clone. It’s not Stella it’s the Vega punk that left Ohara This would mean it’s not connected to punk records , doesn’t have the years of knowledge that Stella gained since then, and more importantly is a really good literary device as somebody who would ask questions to Lilith that Luffy would never care to ask After all Lilith knows much more than this clone and this clone is going to wanna be caught up (Edit: felt a weird need to take off the apostrophe not sure why….)
But it was never stated or implied that this clone can’t connect to Punk Records or that it’s knowledge is 20 years behind. Also, it’s very unlikely that Vegapunk the perfectionist would have made an exact clone that didn’t have all the same abilities as himself if not more. Or at least update it over the years with recent info.
If this clone only has knowledge up to O'hara that could be pretty interesting. I can't remember but did he even know Kizaru then? Quite the mind f for Kizaru if they ever meet!
@@mmem4264 I wanna say yes. He met Kizaru while they built egghead. I wanna say it was being built during this time. But I’m unsure if we ever got real proof of where on the timeline him meeting dragon was.
@@SensiBurning90 if the clone was part of punk records wouldn’t York then know about it? Also the idea was the Stella’s connection to PR was the apple on his head while the rest were robots. He wanted to keep that vp 100% secret from the goverment why would he risk connecting or updating it and being caught? It’ll be interesting to find out either way.
@@reedk2402 I feel like York should know about the clone. Vegapunk didn’t have any reason to keep information from them until just before the attack on Egghead. Unless something else made him hide it. I agree that it should be kept secret. I just can’t imagine Vegapunk not adding his own knowledge to the clone so it’s up to date.
When I first saw that Elbaf was having a cultural shift away from it's martial history my first thought was 'The World Government is trying to remove the fangs from Elbaf to conquer the giants', I think this will end with Usopp inspiring the next generation of Giants into finding a middle ground.
Another magic thing I wonder how is the giantification of all the books. How does it work? It reminded me of some theorie that the reason you shouldn't stay on Elbaph is that you will become bigger. But I don't like that. Also getting bigger is one thing but what about the books getting smaller outside the library?
Luffys speech to Saul also reminds me of Jinbeis return in Wano. He does the same pose and even uses the term "fledgling". Seems like some of Jinbeis mannerisms are already rubbing off on our rubber man.
Twist: King Harald wanted the new giants to despise war because he knew that a war was coming and he wanted to weaken his own forces for the world government. Loki found out about this and offed him
To me that explanation is not possible because at the end of the day, One Piece is a way for Oda to convey peace and tolerance messages. So i'm convinced that Oda's final idea will be for the Giants to really turn into a peaceful people and stop the war cycle. At the same time i really think that Loki is kinder than we think, so i don't see yet how everything will make sense.
Interesting, I'd like to see this happen. This reminds me of the Whole Cake Island arc. When Totto Land was first introduced, at first, I thought maybe Big Mom does have a soft spot for her Kingdom. Until the hunger pangs, Big Mom's personality showed, Pound reveals the darker side of Totto Land, and people mean nothing to Big Mom unless she gets what she wants.
It already happened when the smiling, rose-glasses-wearing Doflamingo came and usurped dressrossa by posing as the hero over the royal family. Flipping this so the smiling, bandaged-eyes Loki getting incriminated by the world government would make sense. It also tracks that despite the smiles and vacation fit, Mingo was all serious business while Loki is nice under all the violent talk.
@@bigbadcalamity721 Yeah i have to admit i don't see any reason either, all the king did was making the giants weaker so that would be a good thing for the gov
One thing people always overlooked was why the govt wanted vegapunk to work on clones. Plenty of other scientists could make clones . But only vp could figure out how to remove their will. Personally i think the govt have always wanted to make clones of powerful people . And that way they could control them by raising them from a young age and indoctrnate them but when that didnt work it caused problems for the govt . Shanks is an example of one that got away from them and developed his own way from his own experiences And like splitting an atom . When you remove a will from a person you get the mother flame . Insane anounts of energy . This is why vegapunk had a mother flame . It was created from kumas will And this my friends is what joyboy disagreed with the ancient kingdom over . To have this nuclear energy which is the motherflame you basically have to sacrifice people , giving up their dreams and futures which have UNLIMITED potential Also im very convinced imu has the bodies of the 19 orginal kings/queens and thats how he can give powers to other people . By using their blood line elements and still having access to the 18 kings bodies . Its why hes obseesed with lily and vivi . Its the one body he does not have .
They starting new agendas saying he’s stealing feats from his brother like his brother fought kaido not him and his brother had a rivalry with Mihawk not him
I can probably say I was one of the very few who didn’t believe he was a rat, after some context of knowing that he is likely linked to the celestial dragons
@@odysseusdadon1234they are dumb tbh. As if people can’t recognise Shanks with one arm, scars and also aura. Downplaying Shanks when Oda himself said that Shanks learnt Divine Departure at age of 10 by himself, not even the Roger’s pirates crew able to do it even the legendary Rayleigh.
Theory -- What if Frank/Pranks is actually a Garling clone? It would make sense as to why Oda shoehorned in the Stella clone to help stir the reader's minds of "oh yeah, he can do that." Garling could have asked Vegapunk to clone him or artificially produce him a new son since Shanks--the heir to the Garling name and the successor of the bloodline--went missing at God Valley.
The reference to Loki's kindness made me think that Loki's ideology might be "Crush your enemy before they can hurt your friends". Maybe that is his way to protect his people and it would fit a character that grew up under Elbaph's old teachings. It could also explain why Harald and him clashed in the end.
What if King Harold was actually working with the WG to weaken Elbaf and Loki found out about that corruption which is why he killed his father? Perhaps Loki will be freed and will actually be the first to fight Frank and lose terribly to showcase Frank's power so that Luffy can save the country. My only problem with this idea is that it might be difficult to get a satisfying end with consolidating the new giant philosophy and the old ways. But Oda could definitely do it by, for example, having Hajrudin and Loki be the symbols for each of those philosophies and with them coming together to fight that external threat they might find a compromise between old and new ways.
What if those two Holy Knight's are sent to Elbaf because someone snitched on the Ohara books being there? That storyline could potentially lead to them trying to destroy Elbaf and maybe in the process Loki could ask Luffy to free him so that he can protect his island as he is the heir to the throne and with that we could see Luffy and Loki teaming up as the "Godly Duo", also something I want to add is that womanly figure we see with Shanks' twin seems a little nervous or kinda disturbed about perhaps their mission while Shanks' twin is locked in. I'm talking about her eyes btw, if it wasn't clear.
@@xstunners188 Maybe but to me how her eyebrow looks indicates more nervousness than serious locked in mode. On a second thought after checking it for the 4th time maybe not nervousness but there is definitely some emotion behind those eyes that is not locked in serious mode.
Something interesting is that when Ripley was talking about King Harald's values of trade instead of warfare, it sounds almost identical to what the giant elders thought Mother Carmel's values were in Big Mom's flashback. I wonder if it was just him being inspred by her, or if one of her homies was still around, pulling the strings.
It could be that it's like a Minato from Naruto situation, where there's some kind of talisman in place but hidden. I wouldn't be surprised if Shanks or his twin brother either rolled up alone or impersonated him with a decent disguise and set some kind of teleportation thing then just left.
Saturn landed form the ship on the actual Egg-head island via a circle on his own. Maybe for shorter distances, they can teleport themselves. Or it could not be precise without one of them already present at the location that can summon.
A jaw dropping chapter, either Shanks has an identical twin or a double ganger but I knew something was up when Shanks gotta straight up (no questions asked) meeting with the gorosei
When I first saw the pentagrams at Egghead I immediately thought that was imu's power after all imu has a devil tail and pentagrams are associated with dark magic and the occult
Would Bonnie be able to order Kuma to take out the memories she had taken in vegapunks lab? He could gain those memories back and possibly get some of his humanity back.
My theory is it’s not shanks’s brother but instead some sort of puppet clone of shanks created by imu to replace shanks after roger found him on god valley.
The Egghead handling of death makes sense. Vegapunk thought a lot about the concept of death. Of course Vegapunk would find multiple ways to survive his own death. Though that doesn’t mean he will be exactly the same.
I don't agree with this narrative that it wasn't already obvious that vegapunk was going to come back due to clones or replaceable body parts. In 1075(towards the beginning of egghead) Atlas even says that she can change her face and body however she wants as Robin looks at lab grown organs and chopper freaks out because he thought they were dismembered bits of Vegapunk. You silly TH-cam man with your funny words. I completely agree that Oda does cheat deaths way too much of course.
I swear there is a small blurb somewhere, at sometime, that said something like this: during God Valley, Garland took one kid with him and put the other kid in a chest (that chest ended up with Roger).
Now it feels like loki's deal was foreshadowing not for luffy to free him, but for frank and/or his associates to, and then offer to eliminate the straw hats for them
All Vegapunk does is put his “soul“ into another clone. The same thing he already did with the other 6 clones. I think Oda made it very clear that „“death“ means something totally different for Vegapunk. Clones, souls, Punk Records, all the dialogue that hinted at it (especially Mars asking himself what death even means to VP looking at his huge brain). So this is not a fake-out death situation at all. This is a matter of reading comprehension.
> This is a matter of reading compression. No, it's not. No one's arguing it's inconsistent, or it doesn't make sense. People argue that oda writes characters to have a moment of sacrifice or a death scene have charecters in the story acknowledge and then proceeds to reveal to the audience that they've been alive all along and negate the impact the sacrifice has on people. Let me ask you why did Stella even mention if you see this I'm probably dead was during his speech when he knew he could have been revived with his spare clone in elbaf? Was he just beening manipulative jerk in this speech?
@@MrXQAZPLMXYou are acting like when recorded the speech he knew that Luffy and his crew will save him. If it wasn't for the straw hats Egghead was destroyed anyway. Now, you will say I am defending Oda 😂😂
12:58 despite how impactful they were, the gorosei getting sort of defeated to me lessened them for me. Im actually more afraid of this shanks bro holy knight and garling than the gorosei
Well they were only "defeated" by ancient Haki and timeout. So they are still a threat. The combined power of luffy and giants couldn't do shit againts them
Oda didn't show the scar side. I figure it is Figarland Garling's circle and it has a specter of shanks in it. We don't see him talking to Frank directly.
If shanks is a twin that might actually help explain why he was found by Roger. I could totally see the celestial dragons and/or Garling himself just being like “Two of them? I don’t need two, dispose of one!” Then they just put a baby in a box and left it.
We thought it was strange to see Shanks, of all people, talking to the Gorosei back in 2018. The Reverie was new, the “empty throne” and Imu were newly introduced, and, most important, Sanji was back on board the Sunny as master chef (right where he belongs). So now, over six years later, having it confirmed it was NOT Shanks but a Figurland lookalike in that chamber?! Mind blowing. Makes me wonder what this holy knight and his lady friend have in store for Elbaph.
Is it actually confirmed though? What proves that this isn't regular Shanks? And why are people saying it's also this Garland guy? Sorry if I missed something.
Bro, a shoan manga where people come back to life or not really die is such a standard trope I don't know what to tell you. It's still a kid a heart manga story.
What if the previous kings goal to pacify the nation was actually a world government plot to destroy the fighting ability of the nation so they can finally conquer it. We know the world government hasn't been able to get the land of the giants under foot due to their amazing fighting ability and strength.
Liam it would be great if you put a time stamp on the video for the MAJOR part of the chapter sometimes i just want to get to know what the thumbnail means and is indicating before hearing the chapter recap for example put a time stamp to when you start talking about the new shanks
My favorite idea for a further twist: This Shanks twin also has a claw scar over his other eye. But he got this scar on purpose to be able to frame Shanks for whatever the Gods Knights want, as well as serving as an excellent bonus for espionage into any country allied with Shanks
1:40 The introduction comes from Jinbe who introduced himself while joining the crew before the raid! it is one to one but luffy is speaking in hiragani and not in kanji like jinbe because he is trying his best to imitate jinbe
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I’m calling it now, shanks original name and his brother’s name is Romulus and Remus
I nvr thought of VegaPunk as "dead" cuz he himself said he doesn't even know how death would work for someone like him.
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Just call him gildarts
It's so fitting
Evil Shanks be like "my leg!"
More like "my right arm!"
BALD! BALD!!!
@@pokeguru23Omg I love this reference
Wouldn't evil Shanks have like 3 or 4 arms?
Blue hair Shanks
"Sir, a second Shanks has landed on Elbaf!"
"Turn on the news! Doesn't matter what channel."
My year long battle of fighting for Shanks innocence and claiming that that was his evil twin in chapter 907 has finally come to fruition. I can retire now because of my stocks just hit the moon.😂
@@codeonexz3813el hermano
Moon stocks fr fr
Nah a 2nd SHANKS HAS HIT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER!
Remember all those memes about how little time screen Shanks gets?
Jokes on us, some of those rare scenes we got of him... it wasn't even actually him.
lol
I still wanted him to be blonde, like Garling ended up.
@@ΓιωργοςΦραγκιαδακης-μ1ζ wait have we seen the official coloring of young garling?
@djlr96 Only Old one when he executed the Donquihote Celestial.
this makes everything so much better LMAO
Luffy learned from Jinbei. Doing the same pose he did when reintroduced in Wano.
Yup, makes much more sense than the alternatives provided, as well, seeing as how Jinbe already has that vibe
Luffy learned everything about manners, remember vivi also taught Luffy to bow for begging of permission.
@doublequack true, and thank god he puts it to good use
Ohara was destroyed in order to eliminate the books.
Egghead was destroyed in order to eliminate Dr. Vegapunk.
Now the books and Vegapunk, both of them are in Elbaph. What is the future of Elbaph???
Imu; *Holds eraser threateningly over map*
@@sarafontanini7051ngl you’re most likely right, but I feel like luffy would stop it somehow
Giants are about the dumbest mfers on the globe. "Fighting" is toxic, so they're teaching their newer generations to not become warriors, but they brought over books from Ohara that would cause the World Government to literally commit genocide to bury... Yeah, Elbaph about to get nuked and Luffy is gonna let it happen again like he did with OG Vegapunk.
i think Luffy’s yakuza language comes from his time with Hyogoro as he was THE Yakuza Boss
Also Luffy saw Jinbei do it right before they raided Onigashima, and he was sitting across from Bege during Whole Cake Island so he's had a few yakusa flavored interactions recently
@@ReiseLukasYou got it right. He’s mimicking Jinbei’s speech during his arrival at Onigashima. The characters used in Japanese for Luffy’s lines are used when Oda wants to show a character doesn’t know what he’s talking about, indicating he’s mimicking Jinbei, and even says lines very similar to Jinbei’s speech that wouldn’t make sense in the context of the current scene because they made way more sense when Jinbei said it
Shanks' twin's name had better be Shaw. When the 2 meet, we'll then have Shaw-Shank Redemption.
Shaw-Shanks Redemption.
I fw it lowkey
What if it's shiv? 🤣
Oda has said he likes Morgan Freeman so what if this is his plan lmao
@haingyuen4707: or we should name him Skunk, because he is the smelly evil twin
Petition to refer to this new Shanks as Shonks until we learn his real name.
Clearly it should be shivs
Its Dhanks
its danks
Chonks
Wanks
I thought Luffy's formality was inspired by Jinbe joining the crew in Wano? Both of the scenes and poses are very similar, and I could totally see Luffy copying that pose to express similar gratitude.
When whitebeard told shanks that seeing his face makes his scar ache,
perhaps he was actually referring to shanks twin, which would make this a way earlier setup than we thought.
Shanks beating rat allegations before gta 6😂😂
i been calling Shanks a snitch for years now
I came here to say this lol. Shanks is no longer shanks d rat. Now it's frank d rat. Shanks brother😂
@@JakeBewley-v9s I used to call him red haired snitch haha
@@Shiva_God_of_D ever since we learned about Shanks be linked to the celestial dragons, I looked back at chapter 907 and realize how suspicious that character was to cover his identification (scar on the left eye, missing left arm, shitty pirate outfit). And in the God Valley flashback Garling spoke to somebody off panel and referred them as children, meaning more than one child. That’s when I believed that shanks more than likely had a twin brother that was at chapter 907.
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Hello funny internet man, I read a thread someone made about how Shanks and his twin brother could be mirroring Hati and Sköll from Norse mythology!! Hati (shanks) chases the moon (Blackbeard) and Sköll (shank’s brother) chases the Sun (Luffy). Ragnarok signifies when they are both caught!!!
Omg I gotta look this up
omfg
What if shank's brother chained up Loki for thinking he was the real Nika, so the Sun god he was chasing? Only afterwards he knew about Luffy and told the Gorosei and they acted on Wano via CP0 and directly on Egghead... It's starting to make sense...
I'm starting to feel that Loki has the real Gum Gum fruit that everyone thought was the real Nika. The legend tells that his body had the exact property of rubber so they couldn't know better...And maybe the Gum Gum was dreamt from a wish of hiding Nika...
But Shank’s Brother would had been pretty bad at chasing Luffy so far.
If Loki turns out to be a good guy, it's possible that the "Shanks" he knows is the twin and hence why he trash talked him
His trash talking was just to get a rise out of Luffy and see what pushes his buttons. Nothing more
@@DANCERcowyet what are the odds that's the first thing he brought up if that was why he did it? He hasn't had contact with the outside in nearly a decade, there's no way he would have known about him and shanks having a connection.
I don't know, shanks became an emperor 6 years ago, and Loki has been imprisoned 6 years ago, unless it was shonks/thanks/planks/shenks/shunks who imprisoned him, and then the world got tricked into thinking it was shanks
@@DANCERcow165 people disagree with your comment
@@DANCERcowLoki didn’t even know that luffy was close to shanks
One more interesting part you forgot to mention was how the book(s) in that library are gigantic now, maybe it's a hint that giants were also once ordinary humans after all.
but Saul says that 'any book you bring here gets gigantified'. No other objects, just books.
@@ddenozor Yes, but if there is a mechanism which can make books larger then there must be one which has made humans giant as well. we already know there were failed experiments on it through ceasar, perhaps this was actually achieved in the ancient kingdom which made humans larger and similar technology is now being used on the books.
That's what I thought too!
Luffy sees other shanks
Luffy ".... Hey you're not shanks... Just who are you?" that's how I feel this meeting of twin shanks would happen.
I got the sudden urge to study biology on Elbaph....for no reason whatsoever
I see 2 big reasons
@@bluntslt8023I see 5
OP community: we can't stand it when Sanji like woman.
*New female revealed*
OP community: we like woman
@@Aether_GMI don’t think those are the same people. I find pervert gags AND the community’s hyperattention to the bodies of female characters both extremely cringe.
@@bluntslt8023 indeed
Having a character yell out "Imma destroy the world!" and have him turn out to be a pretty ok dude, is the most Oda style misdirect ever.
Shit don't we all 😂
@@justgamingbro1305 wdym?
@@Lightout50 from the shows I watch it's usually a character who says they'll do alot of bad but really be a softy
well apart from the whole...murder deal
@@sarafontanini7051 unless it's like Harold was actually a bad guy
I couldn’t believe it, but Stabs is finally here!
Stabs is a beautiful name😂😂😂
I dont think I ever laughed out loud when i read a TH-cam comment before, you caught me off guard there good job!
BUT HERE COMES SKANKS
Stabs? Context please
@@awaiszaffar8892to "shank" someone is American prison slang for stabbing, and since this is Shanks twin what better name than Stabs?
I really hope "THE POWER OF TWWWWOOO AARRRRMMS!" becomes a certified One Piece meme
I would like to know about this meme
Its a DBZA meme @@blackspider3133
Dbz Abridged Cell says that when doung the Final Kamehameha with Gohan
@@self-proclaimedanimator Good catch!
I'm convinced King Harold's "last request" was another Oden situation where things aren't as they seem. I'm convinced the wish to make the Elbaf giants "peaceful" is to actually make them more "docile" so that they won't be ready to fight when Ragnarok comes, and they can be wiped out.
Shanks twin brother Stabs has arrived🔥🔥
You mean Shonks
Lol, loved that
I like Stabs
@@etiosaoviawe8306 Oh I just realized why it's stabs. That's awesome
Its shivs
"I have no enemies"
~Some pacifist dude from Iceland
Vinland Saga is peak
@jakenbakin9086 my favorite
I think the reason Loki hates kindness is because when he first met Lola & gave her the flower, she probably said "that's very kind of you" so after Lola broke his heart, he now despises kindness.
that sounds so fucjing petty but i lowkey believe it Loki seens like the kind of guy yo go "well i wont do X anymore then!" and throw a fit
I feel like the "Shanks" summoning is overshadowing the Loki conversation
Okay, wild theory, Loki’s offer to destroy any one pirate crew in exchange for freedom was foreshadowing a future team up of Loki and frank, frank will free Loki, and in exchange frank will ask for Loki to defeat the straw hat crew
I think the Pirate fake Shanks wanted to talk about with Elders is Loki, Fake Shanks wanted to make Loki king of Elbaph.
i think loki might have some sort of odin knowledge/future telling fruit. And he’s not lying about becoming the sun god because he will be transformed by luffy/bonny at some point. His eyes are covered, odin sacrifices an eye for knowledge. Shit, however unlikely, dude could be the eyepatch pirate
Jimbei is never beating the delivery man allegations with this chapter.
Ships helmsman/amazon delivery driver
you think thats bad, but he just ruined kizaru's mission and did what luffy/bonney asked sanji to do and couldnt.
I have to be honest, i’m starting to believe that Oda may genuinely have a thing for giantesses
nah it's all balanced as always...with Oda there's just extremes and no middle ground.
In the same chapter he introduced Ripley, he also introduced Ange...for every Nami there's a pre-DF Alvida out there
Who doesn't
No kink shaming.
Idk, there are so many potential Oda kinks in One Piece. Furries, muscles, inflation, BDSM, the list goes on. It could be all of them or none of them.
@@ZwhatshQ He's simply open minded 😌
Garling brought his KIDS with him to a genocide tournament.
I respect that parenting 😎
@travisgames6608 wallahi
Gotta start them young
Not entirely out of left field given holy knights are also Celestials
@@ManyTanks1 idgaf what side of the field it came from. Its outta pocket.
I think Bad Shanks was the one who actually killed former King Harald, and not only framed Loki, but did something to him to make him talk as if he was truly bloodthirsty, and when the Good Shanks rolled up he helped in apprehending Loki. This also in turn can explain why Loki has such a massive distaste for Shanks.
If you notice the back ground where the Bad Shanks teleported to you can clearly see it's the throne room, and it has a massive slash mark on the throne, caused by who ever killed King Harald, and this Bad Shanks managed to not only teleport to Elbaf, but exactly in front of the throne. We also know for sure Elders can travel between places 1 Elder is, or HAVE been such is the case with Mars since he was able to travel back to Mary Geoise after being sent off flying.
what i dont understand is why cant it be shanks himself ? what confirms that this is a different person if we cant see the other side of the face
Same, I think people are assuming because of the magic circle stuff. But I still don’t think that confirms anything.
well aparently we're seeing the side of the face that should have a scar lack said scar, so that's one reason
@@sarafontanini7051 The right side of the face is shown but Shank's characteristic scar is on the left side. So until we see the full face of this person ± his arms, we can't say with any certainty who it is
@@sarafontanini7051 but this isnt the scar side we are seeing
ONG
Sir, a second Shanks has hit the manga.
😂
Funny how both of them combined have less screen time then foxy
Is that a nine eleven reference?
@@ujene904yup 😂
Luffys pose while thanking Saul reminded me of Jimbei when he met the crew again in Wano.
I spotted that as well.
Immediately thought that too.
Nah, PLANKS
1:25 He was formal on a few occasions; right after Vivi taught him to be humble, in order to save Nami on Drum Island, and after he was captured by Hancock's subjects for saving his own hide.
Ah yes, Shanks' evil twin brother called Stabs.
This feels like an amazing callback from Oda's earliest prototypes of shanks being the leader of the knights.
Here’s the thing about the clone. It’s not Stella it’s the Vega punk that left Ohara
This would mean it’s not connected to punk records , doesn’t have the years of knowledge that Stella gained since then, and more importantly is a really good literary device as somebody who would ask questions to Lilith that Luffy would never care to ask
After all Lilith knows much more than this clone and this clone is going to wanna be caught up
(Edit: felt a weird need to take off the apostrophe not sure why….)
But it was never stated or implied that this clone can’t connect to Punk Records or that it’s knowledge is 20 years behind. Also, it’s very unlikely that Vegapunk the perfectionist would have made an exact clone that didn’t have all the same abilities as himself if not more. Or at least update it over the years with recent info.
If this clone only has knowledge up to O'hara that could be pretty interesting. I can't remember but did he even know Kizaru then? Quite the mind f for Kizaru if they ever meet!
@@mmem4264 I wanna say yes. He met Kizaru while they built egghead. I wanna say it was being built during this time. But I’m unsure if we ever got real proof of where on the timeline him meeting dragon was.
@@SensiBurning90 if the clone was part of punk records wouldn’t York then know about it? Also the idea was the Stella’s connection to PR was the apple on his head while the rest were robots.
He wanted to keep that vp 100% secret from the goverment why would he risk connecting or updating it and being caught?
It’ll be interesting to find out either way.
@@reedk2402 I feel like York should know about the clone. Vegapunk didn’t have any reason to keep information from them until just before the attack on Egghead. Unless something else made him hide it.
I agree that it should be kept secret. I just can’t imagine Vegapunk not adding his own knowledge to the clone so it’s up to date.
how dare the algorithm hide this from me for 48 seconds
For me it was 3 mins 😤
5 min for me
48 mins for me 😂
Absurd!
Disgusting aldo rythm
When I first saw that Elbaf was having a cultural shift away from it's martial history my first thought was 'The World Government is trying to remove the fangs from Elbaf to conquer the giants', I think this will end with Usopp inspiring the next generation of Giants into finding a middle ground.
That would be hype for Usopp!
The moment I read that, there was no ruler I thought "KING USSOP"
This is such a nice piece of perspective! Love this!
@@BiPolarUrsus YOOOOOO but what ifffff!?!?
and he STILL needs his army of 8000 folowers!
God Ussop does it again
Another magic thing I wonder how is the giantification of all the books. How does it work?
It reminded me of some theorie that the reason you shouldn't stay on Elbaph is that you will become bigger. But I don't like that. Also getting bigger is one thing but what about the books getting smaller outside the library?
Owl magic
Luffys speech to Saul also reminds me of Jinbeis return in Wano. He does the same pose and even uses the term "fledgling". Seems like some of Jinbeis mannerisms are already rubbing off on our rubber man.
This is getting out of hand... Now there are two of them!
The memes this week alone made this chapter an 11/10 for me
@@bradabdulI need to find me some! 🤧
Twist: King Harald wanted the new giants to despise war because he knew that a war was coming and he wanted to weaken his own forces for the world government. Loki found out about this and offed him
I was thinking the same.
To me that explanation is not possible because at the end of the day, One Piece is a way for Oda to convey peace and tolerance messages. So i'm convinced that Oda's final idea will be for the Giants to really turn into a peaceful people and stop the war cycle. At the same time i really think that Loki is kinder than we think, so i don't see yet how everything will make sense.
@@yt-Darms peace can still happen with said explanation tho.
Interesting, I'd like to see this happen. This reminds me of the Whole Cake Island arc. When Totto Land was first introduced, at first, I thought maybe Big Mom does have a soft spot for her Kingdom. Until the hunger pangs, Big Mom's personality showed, Pound reveals the darker side of Totto Land, and people mean nothing to Big Mom unless she gets what she wants.
One of the craziest theories might've ended being true. Now all it's needed is imu being revealed to be luffy's mom to top this one lol
Or for Imu to actually be another Shanks sitting on Blackbeard lol
Nah Luffy's mom has to be crocodile
@@mmem4264 Imu is secretly arlong who is the third amazon lily queen and is also Shanks on Blackbeard's shoulders
Or a little girl.
Nah its Croc
Luffy done as Jimbe did, he even did the same pose as Jimbe's. I think he was mimicking him, because Jimbe is older and wiser.
Oda truly ended the year with a doozy
For all we know, the "Shanks" that Loki hates is actually Frank and he's the one who really killed the king.
Wow that's a great theory
It already happened when the smiling, rose-glasses-wearing Doflamingo came and usurped dressrossa by posing as the hero over the royal family. Flipping this so the smiling, bandaged-eyes Loki getting incriminated by the world government would make sense. It also tracks that despite the smiles and vacation fit, Mingo was all serious business while Loki is nice under all the violent talk.
Nonsense. For what reason he had to kill the king? And then give Loki the legendary devil fruit? Doesn’t make sense at all.
@@bigbadcalamity721 Yeah i have to admit i don't see any reason either, all the king did was making the giants weaker so that would be a good thing for the gov
@@bigbadcalamity721 that's what flashbacks and explanations are for :) Let's wait and see.
One thing people always overlooked was why the govt wanted vegapunk to work on clones.
Plenty of other scientists could make clones . But only vp could figure out how to remove their will.
Personally i think the govt have always wanted to make clones of powerful people . And that way they could control them by raising them from a young age and indoctrnate them but when that didnt work it caused problems for the govt . Shanks is an example of one that got away from them and developed his own way from his own experiences
And like splitting an atom . When you remove a will from a person you get the mother flame . Insane anounts of energy . This is why vegapunk had a mother flame . It was created from kumas will
And this my friends is what joyboy disagreed with the ancient kingdom over .
To have this nuclear energy which is the motherflame you basically have to sacrifice people , giving up their dreams and futures which have UNLIMITED potential
Also im very convinced imu has the bodies of the 19 orginal kings/queens and thats how he can give powers to other people . By using their blood line elements and still having access to the 18 kings bodies . Its why hes obseesed with lily and vivi . Its the one body he does not have .
Hi Oda
The One Piece community owes Shanks an apology for calling him a rat 😂
They can both be rats.
They starting new agendas saying he’s stealing feats from his brother like his brother fought kaido not him and his brother had a rivalry with Mihawk not him
I can probably say I was one of the very few who didn’t believe he was a rat, after some context of knowing that he is likely linked to the celestial dragons
My thought exactly@grammeland1
@@odysseusdadon1234they are dumb tbh. As if people can’t recognise Shanks with one arm, scars and also aura.
Downplaying Shanks when Oda himself said that Shanks learnt Divine Departure at age of 10 by himself, not even the Roger’s pirates crew able to do it even the legendary Rayleigh.
Well…there goes my “Luffy will engage Shanks in a Davy Back fight for the final poneglyph” theory.
what if "
fake" shanks was the one who fought loki
Theory -- What if Frank/Pranks is actually a Garling clone? It would make sense as to why Oda shoehorned in the Stella clone to help stir the reader's minds of "oh yeah, he can do that." Garling could have asked Vegapunk to clone him or artificially produce him a new son since Shanks--the heir to the Garling name and the successor of the bloodline--went missing at God Valley.
ooh that'd be interesting.
His real son goes Poof, and then asks/orders Vegapunk to make a clone. Would be one hell of a twist.
Wild prediction : His name will be THANKS
I prefer what another comment said.
His name is Figureland D. Shonks
@ that is good as well 🙂
Nah, PLANKS
what about Spanks
@@blackoutamvs6550 gods don't have the D in their names bruh
The reference to Loki's kindness made me think that Loki's ideology might be "Crush your enemy before they can hurt your friends".
Maybe that is his way to protect his people and it would fit a character that grew up under Elbaph's old teachings. It could also explain why Harald and him clashed in the end.
Citing a certain musical "Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves"
@freakda96 Less go! Epic takover!
I thought it was "Hear the lamentations of their women"
What if King Harold was actually working with the WG to weaken Elbaf and Loki found out about that corruption which is why he killed his father? Perhaps Loki will be freed and will actually be the first to fight Frank and lose terribly to showcase Frank's power so that Luffy can save the country.
My only problem with this idea is that it might be difficult to get a satisfying end with consolidating the new giant philosophy and the old ways. But Oda could definitely do it by, for example, having Hajrudin and Loki be the symbols for each of those philosophies and with them coming together to fight that external threat they might find a compromise between old and new ways.
13:39 It’s Figarland Stabs
What if those two Holy Knight's are sent to Elbaf because someone snitched on the Ohara books being there? That storyline could potentially lead to them trying to destroy Elbaf and maybe in the process Loki could ask Luffy to free him so that he can protect his island as he is the heir to the throne and with that we could see Luffy and Loki teaming up as the "Godly Duo", also something I want to add is that womanly figure we see with Shanks' twin seems a little nervous or kinda disturbed about perhaps their mission while Shanks' twin is locked in. I'm talking about her eyes btw, if it wasn't clear.
'seems a little a nervous' my ass, she looks more locked in.
@@xstunners188 Maybe but to me how her eyebrow looks indicates more nervousness than serious locked in mode. On a second thought after checking it for the 4th time maybe not nervousness but there is definitely some emotion behind those eyes that is not locked in serious mode.
I can already see Luffy running at "shanks" to greet him and this new Shanks just slashes him
nah luffy intuition is always on point. He'll figure it out.
Unless he somehow has identical haki as Shanks, I don't think Luffy is going to mistake him at all
Lugfy's gonna have a whole uncanny valley ass moment with Frank
@@xstunners188Are you serious did you forget whole cake island?
@@MrDfish515 Isn't haki the materialization of someone's will, I kind of doubt it would be identical
Chapter 1134 is cool but whats even cooler is that I happened to run into another person who watches GrandLineReview during my trip to Charlotte, NC!
I'm honoured that two people watch this channel!
Ruffy's opening panel shows he knows the etiquette of warrios who cherish honor. I wonder if that "noone" that taught him was chained to a giant tree.
Something interesting is that when Ripley was talking about King Harald's values of trade instead of warfare, it sounds almost identical to what the giant elders thought Mother Carmel's values were in Big Mom's flashback.
I wonder if it was just him being inspred by her, or if one of her homies was still around, pulling the strings.
I wonder how they were able to get to Elbaph without someone summoning them. Saturn had to summon the other elders.
It could be that it's like a Minato from Naruto situation, where there's some kind of talisman in place but hidden. I wouldn't be surprised if Shanks or his twin brother either rolled up alone or impersonated him with a decent disguise and set some kind of teleportation thing then just left.
Saturn landed form the ship on the actual Egg-head island via a circle on his own. Maybe for shorter distances, they can teleport themselves. Or it could not be precise without one of them already present at the location that can summon.
@@Deode-d4hyeah, maybe. I don’t think one of them showed up first since they were both in the center of the circle so a talisman seems very possible.
Shanks was there not too long ago and thus summoned El Hermano and some girl
Someone is there who summoned them, or fulfilled the conditions, probably the person talking to loki.
This is some real "red haired rat" shenanigans
Nobody asked about your bloodline
@@PassionateBloodlustwhat?
1:51 pls don’t let this phrase ever escape this video. I’ll pay you whatever money I need to.😂😅
😂😂😂😂
At this point, Crocomom seeming more possible every day
Hot take ..thats why shanks sacrificed his arm so luffy would know the difference...
A jaw dropping chapter, either Shanks has an identical twin or a double ganger but I knew something was up when Shanks gotta straight up (no questions asked) meeting with the gorosei
Doppelgänger* lol
@wheeler202202 My mistake, being a borderlands fan and should have known
Evil Shanks shanked all over the tower
When I first saw the pentagrams at Egghead I immediately thought that was imu's power after all imu has a devil tail and pentagrams are associated with dark magic and the occult
I think it could just be that imu has such an insane control of conquerers haki that he can summon and basically do magic
@beefiestsurprise269 imu is either going to be a she or an it. No way that imu is going to be just "a guy" lol
@@tcbbctagain572 I mean we really don't have much to go off of, I'm just making a guess.
Would Bonnie be able to order Kuma to take out the memories she had taken in vegapunks lab? He could gain those memories back and possibly get some of his humanity back.
My theory is it’s not shanks’s brother but instead some sort of puppet clone of shanks created by imu to replace shanks after roger found him on god valley.
"Let's call him Frank"
If this ends up not being his name: can we keep using it anyways? It's just too damn perfect XD
I think that Luffy speaking "formally" is him imitating Jinbei when he appeared in wano
11:32 its stabs til oda says otherwise
Im willing to put a few bucks down that we're going to see a younger vegapunk stella come out of that cloning machine looking excatly like Eustass Kid
The Egghead handling of death makes sense. Vegapunk thought a lot about the concept of death. Of course Vegapunk would find multiple ways to survive his own death. Though that doesn’t mean he will be exactly the same.
I don't agree with this narrative that it wasn't already obvious that vegapunk was going to come back due to clones or replaceable body parts.
In 1075(towards the beginning of egghead) Atlas even says that she can change her face and body however she wants as Robin looks at lab grown organs and chopper freaks out because he thought they were dismembered bits of Vegapunk.
You silly TH-cam man with your funny words.
I completely agree that Oda does cheat deaths way too much of course.
Oh my god. This reminds me of the ghola clones in Dune 😂
It just never once felt like a true death to me
Everyone lives but Ace. Crazy
Not only do we get Stabs but Shiv too, hot sister theory confirmed
"The power of two arms"
Is that a TFS reference?
Luffy gunna have to get up, plant those feet, and eat that horse
@bradabdul Luffy: I'm the hype!
@Tkokat 😂😂😂
I swear there is a small blurb somewhere, at sometime, that said something like this: during God Valley, Garland took one kid with him and put the other kid in a chest (that chest ended up with Roger).
Now it feels like loki's deal was foreshadowing not for luffy to free him, but for frank and/or his associates to, and then offer to eliminate the straw hats for them
All Vegapunk does is put his “soul“ into another clone. The same thing he already did with the other 6 clones. I think Oda made it very clear that „“death“ means something totally different for Vegapunk. Clones, souls, Punk Records, all the dialogue that hinted at it (especially Mars asking himself what death even means to VP looking at his huge brain). So this is not a fake-out death situation at all. This is a matter of reading comprehension.
> This is a matter of reading compression.
No, it's not. No one's arguing it's inconsistent, or it doesn't make sense. People argue that oda writes characters to have a moment of sacrifice or a death scene have charecters in the story acknowledge and then proceeds to reveal to the audience that they've been alive all along and negate the impact the sacrifice has on people. Let me ask you why did Stella even mention if you see this I'm probably dead was during his speech when he knew he could have been revived with his spare clone in elbaf? Was he just beening manipulative jerk in this speech?
@@MrXQAZPLMXYou are acting like when recorded the speech he knew that Luffy and his crew will save him. If it wasn't for the straw hats Egghead was destroyed anyway. Now, you will say I am defending Oda 😂😂
12:58 despite how impactful they were, the gorosei getting sort of defeated to me lessened them for me. Im actually more afraid of this shanks bro holy knight and garling than the gorosei
Running away from them isn't really defeating them though, is it? Just one of them had to pay because he fucked up with that robot, lol.
Well they were only "defeated" by ancient Haki and timeout. So they are still a threat. The combined power of luffy and giants couldn't do shit againts them
Oda didn't show the scar side. I figure it is Figarland Garling's circle and it has a specter of shanks in it. We don't see him talking to Frank directly.
1:03 I say he got it from Jinbei when he made the same gesture before the Onigashima Raid.
If shanks is a twin that might actually help explain why he was found by Roger. I could totally see the celestial dragons and/or Garling himself just being like “Two of them? I don’t need two, dispose of one!” Then they just put a baby in a box and left it.
If Gerd and Ripley are any indication, I expect to meet 6 or several more buxom trampolines
I kinda want one giantess to have a crush on Usopp from his notoriety from Dressrosa. It’s a stretch I know
We thought it was strange to see Shanks, of all people, talking to the Gorosei back in 2018. The Reverie was new, the “empty throne” and Imu were newly introduced, and, most important, Sanji was back on board the Sunny as master chef (right where he belongs). So now, over six years later, having it confirmed it was NOT Shanks but a Figurland lookalike in that chamber?! Mind blowing. Makes me wonder what this holy knight and his lady friend have in store for Elbaph.
Is it actually confirmed though? What proves that this isn't regular Shanks?
And why are people saying it's also this Garland guy? Sorry if I missed something.
@@derkevevinsame I don’t why everyone’s skipping to concluding that it isnt shanks
@Kelz248 they are cowards and wouldn't want their bias to be ruined
Luffy was touched by Wano/Japanese culture which is why he talks to Saul like a Yakuza!
Bro, a shoan manga where people come back to life or not really die is such a standard trope I don't know what to tell you. It's still a kid a heart manga story.
I think Saul’s words could also be interpreted as him having met one of the former emperors before so he knows how strong someone of that level is
If Evil Shanks had Two arms and Stronge or Stronger than Good Shanks. Then I need (Mihawk vs Evil Shanks)
Imagine if zoro fights evil shanks twin
13:13 "the power of 2 arms" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What if the previous kings goal to pacify the nation was actually a world government plot to destroy the fighting ability of the nation so they can finally conquer it. We know the world government hasn't been able to get the land of the giants under foot due to their amazing fighting ability and strength.
Liam it would be great if you put a time stamp on the video for the MAJOR part of the chapter sometimes i just want to get to know what the thumbnail means and is indicating before hearing the chapter recap for example put a time stamp to when you start talking about the new shanks
My favorite idea for a further twist: This Shanks twin also has a claw scar over his other eye. But he got this scar on purpose to be able to frame Shanks for whatever the Gods Knights want, as well as serving as an excellent bonus for espionage into any country allied with Shanks
1:40 The introduction comes from Jinbe who introduced himself while joining the crew before the raid! it is one to one but luffy is speaking in hiragani and not in kanji like jinbe because he is trying his best to imitate jinbe
Ah yes Shanks and his evil twin brother Stabs
6:10 "Coomer"
💀😂
I cackled about that more than once already, just because the name sounds practically the same.
Am i the only one who is started to think that shanks isn’t even his real name to begin with and that we know absolutely nothing about this character?