Seems a useful chrono good honest review as always. I use the small FX chrono as I can shoot over the top of it down range to calculate BC of pellets. That said using this on the muzzle with FX downrange would halve the shots needed.
The beauty of 3D printing is how versatile it is to changing design features....effectively a very quick way of rapid prototyping & getting things made quickly to prove concepts, etc
Absolutely - also the complexity of design would mean 3 different molds & a process to join the pieces... at $10k each mold... the cost is silly & would make the product cost HUGE. And yes, many, many errors have been made throughout development & adjusted :)
Definately needs a couple of years refinement before it gets my vote. All the parts are priced separately, would be better as a comprehensive kit. Reminds me of the old Combro Chrony which was cheaper and neater, Sorry but not impressed.
Thanks for the feedback. The only options are the USB cables - which many have, so charging for something you (probably?) have is unnecessary, and the variable or custom adapters. Adding these adapters in when they're not needed would drive up the price unnecessarily, and the vast majority of air guns are 1/2 UNF, which are included for free.
Wouldn't be confident using it on a springer & definitely be wary on a break barrel. Would be a lot better with aluminum barrel mount adaptors with a screw going through a nut set into the plastic body to a threaded hole in the aluminium adaptors. Making the adaptors out of Aluminium would not be as expensive as making the full body out of aluminium.
Not bad thinking! we had to design a lot for this exact use case & it took some work and was solved a few different ways. We've had many customers that are using Magnum springers & break barrels without issue to the unit for a long time now (there was 1 problem with an adapter due to a bad batch of materials, they got a bunch of replacement adapters at no cost). The only issue we had was the USB cable coming loose when >20ft/lb pistons, so there's a retention tab added on the standard unit (not the mini) you can use a zip tie the cable to. V2 has a different design approach for this issue. Also the adapters are deliberately plastic for a few critical reasons. Part of our QC testing is to load the adapters at the fixing hole perpendicular to the thread, they typically exceed 90lb force & max out the test rig. After all that, I claim its durable - if it breaks/fails during normal use, let me know & i'll make it right.
Battery option coming on v2 unit - but it'll be "significantly" heavier. We did it without battery to make it as light as possible - for target pistols specifically. Our v2 unit is ~60grams, with an aluminium cover ~80 grams! (side note - Shipping lithium batteries & the different laws around them are horrific, as well as insurance)
it is 100% useable and works very well, the 3dprinted stuff is a matter of personal preference i think, the power supply again depends on what your doing 😀
The taking off of the silencer which can cause the need for rezero is a no from me, I also like to take my chrony (fx) in the field with me sometimes, i would definitely lose some of those bits plus wires and power bank which would be an added cost for me adds to that, would have to be very cheap to consider it as a first purchase into the chrony world so to speak especially over the crombo at £50,00 which has no need for wires battery, apps pocket full of bits. Wish the product all the best but i cant see it catching on in all fairness especially when your prone to displacing bits like me and also the charging of power banks adds to the list of prep i dont want
There are variable adapters that go over a silencer - it never needs to be removed or re-zero'd. App? There are no apps used at all. What bits - there is only 1 piece as the adapter would be screwed to the Chrony. Combro - did you carry spare button cells? what about the rubber bands & alignment tool? 3 pieces... Battery - You've got your phone on you, if Android you use your phone for the battery, some iPhones do this as well - some dont, but as they move to USB-C it should be fine.
to be fair not to bad at all for the money. and considering it’s new on the block i suspect there will be updates in the future. pretty handy for a range crono for sure saves a lot of faf
yes - this is a very early v1 unit, huge amounts of software updates have already been done (on our web page). & we're about to release a very different looking v2 unit.
Too much fuss and messing about with wires phones battery packs needing a phone to connect to see results etc etc.... I'll stick to me £20 chinese ebay one, no messing about and as accurate as anything else.
Valid feedback. If I add a screen - cost goes up, battery - insane shipping issues & laws around these, cost goes up (battery option in development with a partner though). Also more durable without these. It is a trade-off & we went a different path.
In reply to your reply, having no screen and the faff of wires etc. If the price was lower many more would put up with the faff. At this price many won't. FX pocket will still be go to quality of heap ebay
@@doomfathertm8771 They're a very different product. A NateChrony is a calibrated device with a significant feature set, the $40 is not. They're not competitors - the same as the NateChrony isnt a competitor to radar units for certain applications.
@@doomfathertm8771 No - its a different product. The NateChrony is a calibrated device with many features. If you dont want the support, accuracy, reliability - then purchase the cheapest product without the features you dont need, a valid choice.
If you have a 1/2 UNF barrel & a USB cable, then there's no bits to buy. Additional adapters are a very small fraction of sales, i can count on 1 hand the USB cables that i've sold in 1 year. The stripped down package seems to be right for the market.
If it doesnt last a good 5 years then reach out & ill make it right. its simple & robust in the design, the electronics are protectively coated, not battery or screen to fail either. hold me to this.
@@eoinwestman6222 Yes absolutely - there's no Apps at all, it uses a web browser. So *any* device with a web browser (& Javascript) will work fine - tested & works on old & new iPhones. Read the FAQ on my web page, Apple does their own thing with standards - so it *might* not be able to be powered from the phone, unlike an android.
@@sub12airgunners nathan has emailed now to sort out so hopefully it was just a dodgy one. it was an early one so guess the new v2s are improved cant be any more dodgy than the fx since they changed the app
V2 is a physical change only - performance & features will be identical. Any software updates will be backwards compatible too. If we make it to the BSS next year, bring it along - we'll sort you out.
Appreciate the feedback on appearance, the v2 should fix a lot of the visuals. Complicated - understand, its the trade-off - strip down what we sell you, as you supply screen, battery etc. & you save a lot. It "looks" complicated as he's got 4 separate adapters shown, for different rifles - You only ever need 1 adapter.
Seems a useful chrono good honest review as always. I use the small FX chrono as I can shoot over the top of it down range to calculate BC of pellets. That said using this on the muzzle with FX downrange would halve the shots needed.
it's a great little bit of kit 😀
The beauty of 3D printing is how versatile it is to changing design features....effectively a very quick way of rapid prototyping & getting things made quickly to prove concepts, etc
Absolutely - also the complexity of design would mean 3 different molds & a process to join the pieces... at $10k each mold... the cost is silly & would make the product cost HUGE.
And yes, many, many errors have been made throughout development & adjusted :)
Definately needs a couple of years refinement before it gets my vote. All the parts are priced separately, would be better as a comprehensive kit. Reminds me of the old Combro Chrony which was cheaper and neater, Sorry but not impressed.
Thanks for the feedback. The only options are the USB cables - which many have, so charging for something you (probably?) have is unnecessary, and the variable or custom adapters. Adding these adapters in when they're not needed would drive up the price unnecessarily, and the vast majority of air guns are 1/2 UNF, which are included for free.
I’m with you on 3D printed stuff.
The 3dprinted stuff is great for keeping the cost down so i understand why its used 😁
Wouldn't be confident using it on a springer & definitely be wary on a break barrel. Would be a lot better with aluminum barrel mount adaptors with a screw going through a nut set into the plastic body to a threaded hole in the aluminium adaptors. Making the adaptors out of Aluminium would not be as expensive as making the full body out of aluminium.
Not bad thinking! we had to design a lot for this exact use case & it took some work and was solved a few different ways. We've had many customers that are using Magnum springers & break barrels without issue to the unit for a long time now (there was 1 problem with an adapter due to a bad batch of materials, they got a bunch of replacement adapters at no cost). The only issue we had was the USB cable coming loose when >20ft/lb pistons, so there's a retention tab added on the standard unit (not the mini) you can use a zip tie the cable to. V2 has a different design approach for this issue. Also the adapters are deliberately plastic for a few critical reasons.
Part of our QC testing is to load the adapters at the fixing hole perpendicular to the thread, they typically exceed 90lb force & max out the test rig.
After all that, I claim its durable - if it breaks/fails during normal use, let me know & i'll make it right.
Looks super cheap, but I would take functionality and accuracy over that 🙂
it is supper accurate mate and it is very easy to use 😁
Light and portable option, would be useful on pistols as well if it had an onboard battery. Certainly worth looking into.
Battery option coming on v2 unit - but it'll be "significantly" heavier. We did it without battery to make it as light as possible - for target pistols specifically. Our v2 unit is ~60grams, with an aluminium cover ~80 grams!
(side note - Shipping lithium batteries & the different laws around them are horrific, as well as insurance)
it does work very well, for tuning it's great because you can be in the garage and just keep shooting we just plugged in a tablet 😀
honest review . are you going to do anything with the kalibr snipe in the future
it does look interesting so we would like to but the list is still long at the moment 😀
Looks quite nice BUT it must have a battery onboard and plastic doesn't turn me on either. 3D printing seems ok but a better material should be used.
it is 100% useable and works very well, the 3dprinted stuff is a matter of personal preference i think, the power supply again depends on what your doing 😀
The taking off of the silencer which can cause the need for rezero is a no from me, I also like to take my chrony (fx) in the field with me sometimes, i would definitely lose some of those bits plus wires and power bank which would be an added cost for me adds to that, would have to be very cheap to consider it as a first purchase into the chrony world so to speak especially over the crombo at £50,00 which has no need for wires battery, apps pocket full of bits. Wish the product all the best but i cant see it catching on in all fairness especially when your prone to displacing bits like me and also the charging of power banks adds to the list of prep i dont want
There are variable adapters that go over a silencer - it never needs to be removed or re-zero'd. App? There are no apps used at all. What bits - there is only 1 piece as the adapter would be screwed to the Chrony. Combro - did you carry spare button cells? what about the rubber bands & alignment tool? 3 pieces... Battery - You've got your phone on you, if Android you use your phone for the battery, some iPhones do this as well - some dont, but as they move to USB-C it should be fine.
to be fair not to bad at all for the money. and considering it’s new on the block i suspect there will be updates in the future. pretty handy for a range crono for sure saves a lot of faf
yes - this is a very early v1 unit, huge amounts of software updates have already been done (on our web page). & we're about to release a very different looking v2 unit.
that's it mate it's got the start of a really good thing and it's great for indoor use 😁
Too much fuss and messing about with wires phones battery packs needing a phone to connect to see results etc etc.... I'll stick to me £20 chinese ebay one, no messing about and as accurate as anything else.
Valid feedback. If I add a screen - cost goes up, battery - insane shipping issues & laws around these, cost goes up (battery option in development with a partner though). Also more durable without these. It is a trade-off & we went a different path.
In reply to your reply, having no screen and the faff of wires etc. If the price was lower many more would put up with the faff. At this price many won't. FX pocket will still be go to quality of heap ebay
@@NateChrony. In other words, there's no way to compete with the Chinese ebay ones.
@@doomfathertm8771 They're a very different product. A NateChrony is a calibrated device with a significant feature set, the $40 is not. They're not competitors - the same as the NateChrony isnt a competitor to radar units for certain applications.
@@doomfathertm8771 No - its a different product. The NateChrony is a calibrated device with many features. If you dont want the support, accuracy, reliability - then purchase the cheapest product without the features you dont need, a valid choice.
£82 then you have to buy all the bits, I'll stick with my old combro lol
If you have a 1/2 UNF barrel & a USB cable, then there's no bits to buy. Additional adapters are a very small fraction of sales, i can count on 1 hand the USB cables that i've sold in 1 year. The stripped down package seems to be right for the market.
I've been thinking about 1,so thanks for the review..it will be interesting to see how they hold up over time
If it doesnt last a good 5 years then reach out & ill make it right. its simple & robust in the design, the electronics are protectively coated, not battery or screen to fail either. hold me to this.
@@NateChrony. that's great 👍
@@NateChrony.does it work with iPhone software or is it just for android. Looks good
@@eoinwestman6222 Yes absolutely - there's no Apps at all, it uses a web browser. So *any* device with a web browser (& Javascript) will work fine - tested & works on old & new iPhones. Read the FAQ on my web page, Apple does their own thing with standards - so it *might* not be able to be powered from the phone, unlike an android.
@@eoinwestman6222 Yes it does - there's no apps to install, any device with a web browser will work perfectly fine.
i got one from from the shooting show and had nothing but problems with sensor faulting no matter how many times i clean it
You haven't emailed or reached out to me to get this sorted? Send me an email & i'll get it sorted.
@@NateChrony. i did a little while after the show when i was getting wierd readings it doesnt matter now i will get an lmbr when i can
we haven't had ours that long but we have really used it a lot with no issues, but i will keep my eye out for any problems
@@sub12airgunners nathan has emailed now to sort out so hopefully it was just a dodgy one. it was an early one so guess the new v2s are improved cant be any more dodgy than the fx since they changed the app
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thank you for watching
Just ordered one and its on its way, and a new one is out just my luck lol,
V2 is a physical change only - performance & features will be identical. Any software updates will be backwards compatible too.
If we make it to the BSS next year, bring it along - we'll sort you out.
@@NateChrony. Thanks Nate, the one comming will be fine, thanks for the offer!!
Bit of a technophob , but I like it.
thanks for watching, it's a really good bit of kit for the money imo 😀
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thanks for watching 😀
nice one 😀😀
thank you for watching 😀
Nice!👍🏻
thanks for watching
En cuartos ya
Looks cheap and tacky and just to complicated compared to others on the market
Appreciate the feedback on appearance, the v2 should fix a lot of the visuals.
Complicated - understand, its the trade-off - strip down what we sell you, as you supply screen, battery etc. & you save a lot. It "looks" complicated as he's got 4 separate adapters shown, for different rifles - You only ever need 1 adapter.