I was trying to decide which of these two scanners to buy when I came upon your review through a Google search. You did an excellent job of providing a concise analysis of the most important factors to consider in comparing these two units, and in that respect, I found your review MUCH more helpful than any online print review that I've read. So I thank you very much for your effort, and based on your findings, I'm going with the Epson.
As also noted below, the end slide of this video says 'Commissioned by Epson America, Inc"! Hard to know how different the comparison would be if it was truely independent.
Though it was "Commisioned by Espon, I found the review to be informative. Epson has definitely perfected time travel: this dude and his sweater were taken from the early 80s.
Hi There, I'm struggling to find drivers that work for the CanScan 9000F for a MacOs High Sierra. can someone please help? i'm currently using MpX navigator and the images come out very muddy, nothing like how yours come out.
So I did a test with both scanners using Vuescan. Vuescan makes the scanners work much better than the original software. The Canon 9000F MKII kicks the ass of the V600 by far. Really.
+McNamara Report Visibly more detail from the Canon 9000F MKII and clearly less fringing around the edges. But there appear to be more important issues. Vuescan or Silverlight give the scanners more possibilities to perform well. Tweaking the software will give much better results. Any professional in the scanning business should know this. By the way: what's up with that 'commissioned by Epson' at the end, sir?
+McNamara Report It sounds like he works for Vuescan because he used two sentences to express his opinion that it's better than the crappy (common accepted notion) original software? Uh... sure thing, pal.
Whatever, people. All I know is that I did some serious scanning with both scanners using appropriate software and multiple exposures among other tweaks and the Epson got send back for obvious reasons. Your apparent lack of knowledge of Vuescan and Silverlight and making a big deal out of it seems to be the main issue here. Have a great day.
I am actually looking and trying to figure out whether or not to send back the Epson I bought because I keep getting registry errors in windows 10 and while it "does* work with Vuescan demo, I do hate having to pay for additional software just to use my product. Perhaps Vuescan is so much better SW that it works ..........My ancient Canoscan 4200F worked for 10 years and through 4 different operating systems though. My Fujitsu Scan Snap for documents has zero problems with XP, 7, Vista, and 10. Go figure.
i', looking at both scanners, and leaning towards the Canon, i'd like to see both tests done again, but using Hamrick's VUEScan software for both to see the differences ONLY due to the hardware....
I like the warmer/golden tone of the Canon in the boat/water/bridge scene, sharper scan. The digital ice and slightly higher shadow detail of the Epson is nice, I have an Epson 2450, I've adjusted the height of the film carriers to get sharper scans. Would like a Microtek Artixscan M2.
After watching this video I was frustrated to realize that it may have had a bias. Well for those of you that are left confused between choosing between these two scanners, rest assured, I went out and bought both of them. Within 30 minutes of comparing both of them back and forth using different photo prints from different eras the epson v600 far out-performed the canon 9000f . Especially when it came down to color accuracy. Sharpness was about th same but I felt no guilt returning th canon.
This is one of the better product reviews I have seen in quite a while. I am in the market for a scanner (print and slides) for use with my Mac. Has anything come out since this review? If not, I believe the Epson is the one to go with. Thanks for posting this review.
Another thing, comparing two scans of the same picture is not helpful unless we have another reference. How the print looked photographed with a digital camera or a smart phone would have been useful at determining which scanner best replicated what was on the print, rather than trying to guess which scan is closer to how the scene looked at the time.
I did not base my color accuracy measurements and analysis on the actual prints shown in the videos as examples. Rather, I compared the scanned results from a 180-patch ColorChecker test target with the actual colors in the test target read by a Spectrophotometer. This gave me an average Delta E difference of all patches. The Epson had superior accuracy, but based on your last comment you might not be seeing the improved colors if your monitor is not calibrated or is turned to its "warm" view setting. There is no way to accurately compare images shot with a digital camera or cell phone to scanned images using TH-cam or any website, since all are limited to displaying sRGB images and therefore AdobeRGB images from the scanner (or digital camera) will always look flat and washed out compared to the cell phone sRGB images. But AdobeRGB is a much wider color space, and therefore allows for better print results and display on wide gamut TVs and calibrated computer monitors.
Thank for you for an excellent review, and an excellent and fast video which gets right to the point! Great video and great review. Just what I was looking for!
But to be fair, I never compared film negatives because that was not my target requirement although after seeing the results from different prints I was very disappointed with the canon 9000f, especially since I'm a Canon "fan" and expected better.
Totally biased video. I have read a ton of different reviews of both these scanners. This video is obviously selective in its facts. From all the reviews I have found the following ( true or not): these things are worth considering 1. The scratch reduction is more aggressive on the Epson leading to softer pictures or details going missing like shirt buttons. 2. Canon is faster 3. Canon customer support is much better 4. Third party software like silverfast work better with the Canon. 5. Canon is better at separating images when scanning strips of negatives. 6. Results from both are very similar I am choosing between the Epson V550 (which is the same as the V600 without photoshop elements) and the Canon since I already own Photoshop CS5. I'm ordering the Canon.
Sadly. I like to imagine where scanners would be now if these companies and kept improving them. You could probably buy an Epson v850 for around a hundred bucks now if they had kept making new and better scanners. Now your best bet for photo/film scanning is a professional digital camera and a light box.
As someone who bought the v600 based on this review and works with a v800, I have to say I am very disappointed and frustrated with both. I do not find them to accurately capture colors on either prints or positive slides. By this I mean capturing the color as is, epson either scans it with a weird red tint or the "color restoration" button fixes it too aggressively for how the scanner thinks the colors should look, not how the film or print actually showed them. As someone who wants to get accurate colors when scanning, it is very time consumer to adjust each one just so what I see on screen matches what I see with my eyes. Seriously considering buying the canon and selling my epson.
Have you calibrated your monitor? And are you familiar with the color management controls on your computer? As for color restoration, it's a quick and dirty solution that can save massive amounts of manual retouching time. But it's not perfect.
@@mcnamarareport I did go to the windows color calibration settings on both monitors I work with. I dont know if this counts as a professional calibration but yeah I did my best to make it accurate. I've heard that vuescan and epson 2 software update only available on Mac improves performance. Because the built in software feels about 10 years dated, especially when you think about how advanced smarphone camera software has gotten.
Reviews I have read on the web favor the Canon over the Epson which show you must always look any review with a wary eye. This review was too quick and subjective to be of any use. One last thing, if you really care about maximum quality don't use dust removal software. Even the best leave evidence of their removal behind and tend to reduce resolution.. It is better to carefully clean each negative or slide and remove any dust left behind manually.
Hmmmm Epson paid for it, but does that mean the results are not true. Epson DID clearly label the fact that they paid for it.... I guess it's a 5 minute commercial.
Great video...did Epson really pay for that? LOL...like it matters though, the proof is in the product, it's output, and of course the consumer's likes/dislikes.
If this video didn't have a modern scanner in it, id think it was shot in the 1980's.
*****
amen
must be that sweater and desk lamp! LOL!
hahaha so true
***BEWARE***
The end slide of this video says 'Commissioned by Epson America, Inc". Very biased video.
I totally missed this. Thank you.
I was trying to decide which of these two scanners to buy when I came upon your review through a Google search. You did an excellent job of providing a concise analysis of the most important factors to consider in comparing these two units, and in that respect, I found your review MUCH more helpful than any online print review that I've read. So I thank you very much for your effort, and based on your findings, I'm going with the Epson.
As also noted below, the end slide of this video says 'Commissioned by Epson America, Inc"! Hard to know how different the comparison would be if it was truely independent.
hi , i dont seem to have a 9600 dpi option , 4800 seems to be the limit. how do i fix this?
how will V600 compare with newer 9000F Mark II? from what i gather, the MII has got newer optics and software improvements.
At the end of the video it says, "Commissioned by Epson America"
hey what do you think about epson v600 and canoscan 9000f MARK II not the first one
is the 9000f mk ii's image quality gonna kick v600's?
Though it was "Commisioned by Espon, I found the review to be informative. Epson has definitely perfected time travel: this dude and his sweater were taken from the early 80s.
He learned from the best: 1985 Bill Gates.
Hi There, I'm struggling to find drivers that work for the CanScan 9000F for a MacOs High Sierra. can someone please help? i'm currently using MpX navigator and the images come out very muddy, nothing like how yours come out.
I use Vuescan with Windows 7 64bit. It's compatible with MacOs too. Forget OEM software when it comes to scanning photos.
Independent testing: Commissioned by Epson.
Thanks for wasting my time.
I just started the video, thank you for saving my time
I'm curious, you're going plan to make video about CanoScan 9000f Mark II?
So I did a test with both scanners using Vuescan.
Vuescan makes the scanners work much better than the original software.
The Canon 9000F MKII kicks the ass of the V600 by far.
Really.
+Mattnh Sounds like you work for Vuescan. And kicking ass isn't a rating based on fact, it's an opinion. Any specifics you'd like to share?
+McNamara Report Visibly more detail from the Canon 9000F MKII and clearly less fringing around the edges.
But there appear to be more important issues.
Vuescan or Silverlight give the scanners more possibilities to perform well. Tweaking the software will give much better results. Any professional in the scanning business should know this.
By the way: what's up with that 'commissioned by Epson' at the end, sir?
+McNamara Report
It sounds like he works for Vuescan because he used two sentences to express his opinion that it's better than the crappy (common accepted notion) original software?
Uh... sure thing, pal.
Whatever, people.
All I know is that I did some serious scanning with both scanners using appropriate software and multiple exposures among other tweaks and the Epson got send back for obvious reasons.
Your apparent lack of knowledge of Vuescan and Silverlight and making a big deal out of it seems to be the main issue here.
Have a great day.
I am actually looking and trying to figure out whether or not to send back the Epson I bought because I keep getting registry errors in windows 10 and while it "does* work with Vuescan demo, I do hate having to pay for additional software just to use my product. Perhaps Vuescan is so much better SW that it works ..........My ancient Canoscan 4200F worked for 10 years and through 4 different operating systems though. My Fujitsu Scan Snap for documents has zero problems with XP, 7, Vista, and 10. Go figure.
thanks for taking the time to review these scanners! very very helpful!
i', looking at both scanners, and leaning towards the Canon, i'd like to see both tests done again, but using Hamrick's VUEScan software for both to see the differences ONLY due to the hardware....
I like the warmer/golden tone of the Canon in the boat/water/bridge scene, sharper scan. The digital ice and slightly higher shadow detail of the Epson is nice, I have an Epson 2450, I've adjusted the height of the film carriers to get sharper scans. Would like a Microtek Artixscan M2.
do these scan 120 film negatives too?
yes
After watching this video I was frustrated to realize that it may have had a bias. Well for those of you that are left confused between choosing between these two scanners, rest assured, I went out and bought both of them. Within 30 minutes of comparing both of them back and forth using different photo prints from different eras the epson v600 far out-performed the canon 9000f . Especially when it came down to color accuracy. Sharpness was about th same but I felt no guilt returning th canon.
And what about the CanoScan 9000f MARK II vs Epson Perfection V600, anybody tested/compared them?
From what I've seen, multiple reviews, Canon changed the bundled software. Otherwise, same hardware rebadged with MK II.
So did Epson really commission this video?
The summation seems fair.
This is what reviews should be like and was exactly what I was looking to compare! :)
COMMISSIONED BY EPSON, guys...
This is one of the better product reviews I have seen in quite a while. I am in the market for a scanner (print and slides) for use with my Mac. Has anything come out since this review? If not, I believe the Epson is the one to go with. Thanks for posting this review.
great review right on the money: resolution, dynamic range etc. thanks
the argyle and old style video tricked me in the beginning...... ended up being an amazing review! thanks!
Another thing, comparing two scans of the same picture is not helpful unless we have another reference.
How the print looked photographed with a digital camera or a smart phone would have been useful at determining which scanner best replicated what was on the print, rather than trying to guess which scan is closer to how the scene looked at the time.
I did not base my color accuracy measurements and analysis on the actual prints shown in the videos as examples. Rather, I compared the scanned results from a 180-patch ColorChecker test target with the actual colors in the test target read by a Spectrophotometer. This gave me an average Delta E difference of all patches. The Epson had superior accuracy, but based on your last comment you might not be seeing the improved colors if your monitor is not calibrated or is turned to its "warm" view setting. There is no way to accurately compare images shot with a digital camera or cell phone to scanned images using TH-cam or any website, since all are limited to displaying sRGB images and therefore AdobeRGB images from the scanner (or digital camera) will always look flat and washed out compared to the cell phone sRGB images. But AdobeRGB is a much wider color space, and therefore allows for better print results and display on wide gamut TVs and calibrated computer monitors.
Good tips there. Guess epson the best right??
Thanks for this comparison. I was confused on which to buy. The epson was the winner though it cost more than the canon.
Thank you SO much, I've been looking at the Epson and your review made the decision to purchase one easy. Thanks for the great comparison.
Thank for you for an excellent review, and an excellent and fast video which gets right to the point! Great video and great review. Just what I was looking for!
But to be fair, I never compared film negatives because that was not my target requirement although after seeing the results from different prints I was very disappointed with the canon 9000f, especially since I'm a Canon "fan" and expected better.
Totally biased video.
I have read a ton of different reviews of both these scanners. This video is obviously selective in its facts.
From all the reviews I have found the following ( true or not): these things are worth considering
1. The scratch reduction is more aggressive on the Epson leading to softer pictures or details going missing like shirt buttons.
2. Canon is faster
3. Canon customer support is much better
4. Third party software like silverfast work better with the Canon.
5. Canon is better at separating images when scanning strips of negatives.
6. Results from both are very similar
I am choosing between the Epson V550 (which is the same as the V600 without photoshop elements) and the Canon since I already own Photoshop CS5.
I'm ordering the Canon.
Though it seems a biased review, the images seems to be better with the epson scanner
I amazed that they've been making these scanners, apparently unchanged, for at least six years. I guess the market for scanners isn't growing.
Sadly. I like to imagine where scanners would be now if these companies and kept improving them. You could probably buy an Epson v850 for around a hundred bucks now if they had kept making new and better scanners. Now your best bet for photo/film scanning is a professional digital camera and a light box.
Thanks for making my scanner choice that much simpler.
Your channel is really awesome !!
Woaw this is like from the 1980s, the look, music and the way the guy looks and talks
As someone who bought the v600 based on this review and works with a v800, I have to say I am very disappointed and frustrated with both.
I do not find them to accurately capture colors on either prints or positive slides. By this I mean capturing the color as is, epson either scans it with a weird red tint or the "color restoration" button fixes it too aggressively for how the scanner thinks the colors should look, not how the film or print actually showed them.
As someone who wants to get accurate colors when scanning, it is very time consumer to adjust each one just so what I see on screen matches what I see with my eyes.
Seriously considering buying the canon and selling my epson.
Have you calibrated your monitor? And are you familiar with the color management controls on your computer? As for color restoration, it's a quick and dirty solution that can save massive amounts of manual retouching time. But it's not perfect.
@@mcnamarareport I did go to the windows color calibration settings on both monitors I work with. I dont know if this counts as a professional calibration but yeah I did my best to make it accurate.
I've heard that vuescan and epson 2 software update only available on Mac improves performance. Because the built in software feels about 10 years dated, especially when you think about how advanced smarphone camera software has gotten.
Wow thanks a lot for the excellent review it was just what i was looking for and it help me a lot
Thanks, that was a great help!
Thank you, very concise and informative.
Great overview. Thank you!
Soon after I bought my Perfection U636, Epson abandoned driver support. Because of that, I avoid all Epson products.
Reviews I have read on the web favor the Canon over the Epson which show you must always look any review with a wary eye. This review was too quick and subjective to be of any use. One last thing, if you really care about maximum quality don't use dust removal software. Even the best leave evidence of their removal behind and tend to reduce resolution.. It is better to carefully clean each negative or slide and remove any dust left behind manually.
When Canon beats Epson he says 'they are both great' Deffo paid for by Epson
great job and well explained! thumbs up
good comparison work
I only wish i saw this before i bought the canon!
Terrific review. Truly fantastic. Just wish i had seen it before making the purchase hehehe.
Done on behalf of Epson when they are paying the bill its going to win make up your own mind I have Canon and it great.....
Many thanks! Mate.
Thank you for this complete test.
But be aware that not all watchers are US natives : you speak very very fast !!!
Great advise thanks!
Gracias por el vídeo objetivo, encargado por Epson. Voy a comprar Canon, por tramposos.Las cámaras son Canon ... no puede ir mal.
Great, thanks!
Thanks!
"commissioned by Epson America" really?
Hmmmm Epson paid for it, but does that mean the results are not true. Epson DID clearly label the fact that they paid for it.... I guess it's a 5 minute commercial.
Great Vid...!
Epson PAID for this video!!!
@jkagoso Don't have any regrets,I have both.Canon is it.
теперь все ясно, выбор сделан правильный!
Made in 2011?? Looks like 1996 with a tad of 1984! 🙄 Commissioned by Epson, 😫 Wow this is sad.
5:12 commissioned by epson america, that explains everything :/
clearly this person is discussing print speed over scan speed, rookie mistake
Great video...did Epson really pay for that? LOL...like it matters though, the proof is in the product, it's output, and of course the consumer's likes/dislikes.
Perfection 600 it is :)
thanks!!! helpful.
Thank you so much for this video. Now i know should i buy :) thanks!
FCKN THANK YOU!
biased video Beware
Lol.. Sponsored by Epson... Credibility Level = zero
this is sooo paid off....and dated lol