My 5 minute painful microsoft paint drawing hopefully helps people understand this 🤣🤣🤣 even if you gap your laner 3-0. Another trolling lane thats 0-8 completely invalidates your lead
@Rewleague why the name change? On topic with that comment though, yup you can gap your lane lose then get told your trash because you couldn't care the 0/8 it's insane
Yeah, this is not even debatable. Everyone sat in the loading screen before and wondered why a team of plats is playing against a mix of silvers and golds or something similar to this. Or why a full team of on-role is matched against a team with 3 autofills. Sometimes its rigged in your favour and sometimes its rigged for the other teams favour.. and sometimes you actually get a fair game, those exist too but its crazy how much time is just wasted on autowins or autlosses.. its just not fun.
@@scotlandsbest6039 its not about being stuck it just wastes your time, it doesn't keep you stuck. If someones stuck thats their fault either cause skill issue or cause not enough games played.
1. Adding emerald 2. Removing every form of actual communication in this game, say 2 words you get chat restricted. 3. Doubling down on every bad design in the game, by following it up with an even worse design. These are the 3 things that i think ruined the game
Why is adding emerald a bad thing lmao. People keep coping that the game and everything is against them. D4 hardstucks are losing their minds because they can't flex their "high elo" diamond accounts anymore. If you're not GM+ why do u even care about ranked rank, it's literally pointless that's why it's called low elo, it's playing for fun. The real problems are them releasing overstat reworked champs and refuse to nerf them for some reason and them not giving bigger punishments for afking. Not because Billy Boy can't climb out of emerald (which is his peak rank since if you're a better player you JUST climb out of it)
@@mark5338 it is bad, cause they didnt add it properly, so now everything from gold 1 to diamond 4 are stuffed into the same elo, and you have to get lucky to get the diamond players and not the gold ones in your team, i've got out of emerald but emerald 4-3 is by far the hardest and most infuriating elo i have ever played in
yea but people just dont get it. I can only find real humans in this channels comment section. Every dipshit redditor will just tell you that you suck cause you cant carry a troll. XDDDDDD
@@sanzyboy3952:). Idk how i ONLY find real humans with functioning brain under this channel, but i guess, we can gather together here, and lets hope we can make some impact on riot.
@@Elimbi1 Something along the lines of riot giving you enough wins and enough loses to maximise the number of games you actually engage in the game. By this logic, they think that if you get to your desired rank too easily, you might stop playing ranked altogether, but if you actually lose some, you'll want to grind that rank that you might "eventually" claim at the end of the season.
@@xyoh123 honestly I had a string of games where at least of my teammates end the game with 0/8 1/7 that kind of stuff but it could just be luck of fortune
@@Elimbi1 I never believed in the rigged matchmaking as in winner or loser queue. Nevertheless when you're blue side you have the advantage of the map so to balance this, red side will have higher elo players. But in really it only affects GM+/Challenger players since the gap can be count in hundreds of lp, you can look at every high elo players side winrate (they always have more games on red side and a great winrate) by yourself on leagueofgraph for exemple.
Another issue is that riot has no interest in banning smurfs since it artificially increases the „new“ player count which is important for investors and smurfs tend to buys skins therefore making profit for riot.
Smurfs are not a player issue. Smurfs are an issue of the higher up matchmaking taking 30-90mins to find a game. Sure some will still have smurfs. But it sure as hell won't be this many.
@@avinashshaheed9597 yh, but if all of them go into lower queues to smurf doesn't that leave even less people in those higher queues? Like if all high elo players smurf queue times should go up even higher in theier actual elo
@AndrewPacketikov Tell that to the smurf, they themselves can't handle the loss, which is why they smurf. Do you expect new player to react positive with the smurf?
@@AndrewPacketikov That's just not how it works, this isn't COD where u might get few kills here and there vs better players, this is league of legends, if someone is 10x your peak, you will lose miserably and u won't even know why u lost... You can play out the same game 100 times in a row, u never win. It is just too complex of a game for you to learn anything while getting curb stomped from minute 1.
Idk why they can’t just do what Valve does with DotA 2. Link a phone number to the account, the account must have 100 games played, and have a positive conduct summary
Because riot, and everyone who’s paying attention, knows that riot is so terrible at security that having any real identity connected to the account is a legit safety concern and means much more serious lawsuits.
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla not to mention the fact that they played chicken with hackers and got their entire source code leaked. Am I supposed to pretend they won’t do the same with any identifiable information I give them?
Pretty sure that riot is using some sort of irl id card system in Asian countries. So it is possible but might be an issue with data security or however its called.
The list of things that eventually made me quit: 1) Riot Vanguard (the list of things I hate about it would be probably be too long to fit in a YT comment) 2) Removal of useful pings (remember "just type karthus ult"?) 3) DPS going from Damage Per Second to Damage Per Screenshot (fights lasting more than 10s is apparently bad for tiktok viewers retention) 4) €500 Ahri skin Those are just some of the most ludicrous examples that I came up with in the moment, I'm sure there are a lot more that I'm forgetting
@@jackweatherhead8171 They never meant much to me. One should play ranked with the mindset to improve, the only thing that matters is the journey and the knowledge that you have gained through it
Can't wait for season 15 where you can buy an item that just instantly executes the enemy, might as well cut all the fluff if everyone becomes a one shot bot at one item anyways
Lee sin is an assassin now. But he still tanks and has low CDs. And he isn't even the worst offender. He's still presented as one of the most balanced and fair champs around and that being true IS a big L for league. If Lee sin is a balance standpoint the game is, and it really is, completelly off.
The sad part is the fact you don’t even enjoy a win anymore. As a jungle main it’s definitely become the most toxic it’s ever been for us lot - the honour system they made is legit anti jungler since you always get flamed or reported regardless of how well you play. I do also believe there is a loser queue of sorts where after a certain amount of wins you get paired with people either with abysmal win rates or terrible honour ratings to balance out their bizarre match making method. It’s insane how those games you just get the worst experience ever with the worst humans ever lol
pretty much every modern game has that matchmaking system its complete cancer, notice how u never go win lose win lose its always streaks and 70% of games feel uncontrollable
Yes! My match history now for the last 40-50 games looks like this: 5 straight wins,4 straight losses, 5 straight wins,4-5 straight losses and so on. The system is made to maximize the amount of games you play so they can have player retention but it's working against them. Like it works maybe for the first 100-150 games since you think you can extend the winstreak but if you just look at your match history its a clear pattern. Disgusting.
Losers Q does exist, but there's a trick to it, you can quickly deflate your elo if you have a negative winrate role (don't do Supp, you'll easily get carried, pick mid) where a single lost is a massive strike to your mmr.
I won 17 games in a row from unranked to gold, 17 wins then 1 loss then 2 wins…. Then every single game since then (9 games) I’ve had the absolute scum of the earth chinese named players on my team that literally just run it down. I had a Chinese named adc be 0-9-0 at 12 minutes…. He died almost 1 time a minute for the first 12 minutes of the game.
@@nyrxownsand the thing is nowadays the difference between silver and diamond doesn’t exist . Already in season 9 i was feeling something was not tight playing in diamond wasn’t the same as before but nowadays it’s literally losing to riot matchmaking especially if u have an old account like mine with 11 years . Surely the avg player got better i did get better too and there’s no way i’m worst than 5 years ago in terms of skills champion pool and knowledge
Im in mid to high Diamond right now and it feels like 20% of games are in my control. I’m an ADC main and I’m getting auto filled to jg and top a lot. Sometimes I’ll play with Masters players, sometimes there’s a lvl 30 plat account with 100% win rate on the enemy team who is either a GM + Smurf or a scripter. 80% of games are just pure randomness where I have no control over the outcome of the game. On my main account I almost never have over 10 deaths as ADC, I don’t understand how I’m matched with people who die non stop constantly in high diamond games. These people should know how to play safe after going 0/1 in lane
i swear its just perma autofills u now, im mid player but the last couple weeks i get autofilled nearly every 2nd game atleast and i used to always get mid 90% of the time
@@joeschipper6465 i didnt want to play on my main and on my second account is dia and i get as sup perma autofilled or when im not than i get random that dont know how to play with waves. You lose lane because your adc dont know when to push and when not. You cant roam, because your jg and mid dont wanna play with you just a clown show. but thats lol nowerdays just retards everywhere and you cant right in chat, because you get chatrestriced after 3 sentence. just gg and its for me a 50 form a 100 in this split
I uninstalled today after two games with afks. The first one an emergency, then jung went afk when we were ahead. second someone went afk after their lane had 3 deaths. we had two drakes and all voidlings.
So basically you have to play 500 games where presumably %35-45 (depending on your true rank) of them will be miserable because of factors outside of your control. That is insane, why even play the game at that point.
@@GoznerPeter Theirs plenty of tonal language in their that heavily implies i did not? Idk if u just read it to fast or not very thruoughly but no i didnt.
ranked is miserable not because its rigged (always has been for a long time) but because you no longer have any satisfaction for playing correctly when you see that you play a bad champion that you always played and liked playing vs someone playing urf in classic or because you cant enjoy laning when junglers are perma ganking, etc etc , what i mean is that the pace of the game is so fast now that its a clown fest not worth to climb
funny that u say the game is very fast paced bc i feel the opposite, the broken state of tp in solo lanes and the nerfs to snowballing over the years has rewarded scaling so much more than playing in the edge which for me would be much more fun
True, you have to put so much effort into playing some champions just because of them being older champions where as the newer or just easier can use a 4th of the effort and and 4x the results, for instance Garen and Akshan are perfect examples of this. Garen just presse's his 3 buttons and you die instantly, Akshan just E's the mid wall and 3 shots u.
Rigged ranked and bad champions in 2024 sounds like a lot of cope. There are some champs on the weaker side but no champ at all is just straight up weak and keeping u hardstuck if you're a better player.
@@Oozy007 I mean an opinion and a fact are two different things. . The game is OBJECTIVELY FASTER. Period. Average game time has gone down by like 50% since league started. Damage creep is at a nearly all time high, people die within milliseconds of a fed character showing up on their screen. Basically every champion added within the past few years has some form of dash. And Lee Sin mains in literal bronze are pulling off insecs... . The game is objectively faster. Your point on "scaling vs snowballing" sounds extremely misguided. Perhaps you do not know how to exert your leads properly when you snowball? I'm not sure, but what you are talking about is not an actual problem in the game.
"if you keep improving and playing with consistency you'lll climb" Riot needs to understand that most people don't wanna play hundreds of low quality games in each of their 3 season splits.....
I came across someone in my ranked game that has more than 360 ranked games clocked 1 month into the split now lol. EDIT: 379 ranked games as of this post
I basically never play ranked anymore. Just normals and arams for me. Removing the bs ranked pressure and just focusing on having fun playing the game.
This comment will get lost amongst the others but I wanted to just mention something that might get forgotten. "Why are you forced to play through a load of gold players" in regards to that Gwen smurfing. Riot's system does actually have MMR detection for first time Ranked (no prior season) accounts but it uses your normal MMR. The assumption being a new player will have played a bunch of normal games on the xp grind from level 1 to level 30. This system is actually fine imo and gets hate because of a different issue and not fault of it's own. If that Gwen player had actually played the 100 normal games grinding that account up to level 30 to play ranked, then the system would definitely have placed them in a much higher bracket. But we all know what really happened. That Gwen player did not level that account. You know it, I know it, everyone knows that account was levelled by a bot or someone else and then the Gwen player bought the account. This gives that account the mmr of whoever previously owned it. The thing about LoL's mmr is that it is quite "sticky". It likes to stay around the same point and not be too impacted by sudden shifts, you see this often when you "reset" every split and still play at against and with the same players or how players who actually make and level their own accounts often get the same rating as their main nearly instantly. But the problem with this is that if someone else levels the account, the system wants to believe the player who levelled it is whatever mmr they were and their insane sudden shift in champion, playstyle and win ratio is luck. It can take a while for these bought accounts mmr to fix itself even when the new owner of the account is completely 1v9ing.
I can vouch for that. I lvled up account not so long ago playing drafts the entire time. I ended up in plat/emerald elo. But there is downside to that. Quickplay/Normal Draft supposed to be a place where you can queue up and play whatever you want. You want to learn new champ/role? That's should be the place for it. But it isn't, people will tryhard, pull off their highers mastery champions because now not only they can boost their ego, they have also a reason to do that, especially on the fresh account. So now instead of Bronze having ruined ranked games, lvl 10 players have their games ruined. It shouldn't be like this, no new player should have his game ruined by ego driven morons regardless if they are playing normal draft or ranked in bronze (let's be honest Quick Play is just cancer center).
@@Rewleague that would require them to HIRE people. To you know, do a job. Riot can't do that. That would mean... PAYING people. Nononono it has to be automated or there is no solution. Remember: Riot is trying to set this game up to practically run itself (even if it's terrible) so that they can spend nothing and make millions. They do not care about the quality of matches (any elo) because they don't make money off of that. It is really that simple. Don't forget: Tencent. Chinese corporations have nothing but poor reputation for quality control no matter what industry. Because quality control costs money. So they just don't do it. If league players want a major league reform, start praying for China to send boats at Taiwan. I'd bet a kidney we will see WW3 before we see Tencent give Riot the funding they would actually need to make a major reform.
Sounds like the problem lies in the "sticky" MMR then. If an account suddenly started to win 20+ games in a row, it should be skipping divisions instead of being capped at +30 lp per game, regardless of how low it started imo. The faster a smurf climbs, the less games they'll ruin before getting to their rank. But riot doesn't want people to climb fast. They want people to commit to extended playtimes so it looks better.
80% of my games, it's one of the following; 0-10 botlane at 15 0-6 Midlaner at 15 0-4 Jungle with zero objs at 20 I don't care how good I play I can't stop a 10-0 Kat, 8-0 Jinx, etc. Just old, no emotions it's just old.
I am in bronze. And one thing you didn't mention... what about the afk? I lost 4 games because of that. It is true you lose half of LP but I want free LP, too.
Yeah it’s frustrating… I’m still iron because I had a few Afks yesterday and I just started rank and it was horrible. I’m Silver in flex but solo is the worst crowd…
Can check league of graphs lower ranks have more afk %. Gotta say I dont see many afk like the other guy said maybe 1/20 it’s the 0-10 botlane flaming is my main issue
@@bobobubu7850 Losing half LP is still too much. If you have an afk'er, then it's just not a fair match-up. And afk'ers aren't other player's problems anyways. They leave games and afk cause they think its a sure loss and don't want to waste time. Or are just fed up and walk away. Both are Riot's problem and lead right back to balancing issues. None of that should *ever* be placed on the other players in the match. In any way.
that moment when the wholesome chungus tank wipe your hp bar by half while your champ barely scratches their shield really tell something about the current balancing of that game. I played league because it was skill expressive. now there's so much damage in the game that your skill can no longer carry you, people are all meta slaves.
This while tanks still getting melted in seconds, why the fuck everything need to have so much DMG, as a tank enjoyer I'm fine with having an hard Laning phase and good team fight potential, but WHY I NEED TO DO SO MUCH DMG AND BEING ABLE TO ASSASSIN ADC (Mundo reach 350 ad with titanic and overlord, insane + u have titanic proc and aa reset) I want to be durable, being able to start and engage with cc and being followed, and protect my team not being an assassin with sion in the bush with 250ad (thanks overlord)
@dariocrescinithorbjornsen7795 because the average league player is complained about tanks being boring so they buffed thier damage Now tanks become OP how to fix it lower thier damage and increase thier disruption potential in team fight nope just make everything else deal damage FFS a talon has no business 1 shoting ornn
It would be fine if they forced 1 smurf on each side to negate the other. The problem is one team is full of actual low elo players and the other is filled with 70%+ wr players.
I do smurf sometimes and I also agree with u. From my expirience its very unbalanced matchmaking tho. I usually sit at a 80-90%WR when tryharding on my OTP in about 25-50 games on a fresh lvl 30. And most (if not) every single game, espacially in the first 1-20 games, I get 4 hardstucks in my Team who belong to the elo in the MMR Iam in and the enemy team has atleast 1 DUO smurfers and its so disgusting to deal with. Espacially if they are jgl/mid or bot/supp. Im mid btw. But I dont wanna imagine how insane it is if youre a hardstuck with a full hardstuck team vs a full smurf team I also saw that sometimes and thats truly sad and truly a matchmaking failure by this disgusting company
LIST OF THINGS THAT SHOULD BE REMOVED IN THE GAME : 1. VANGUARD 2. EMERALD TIER 3. TRUE SKILL SYSTEM (RESPONSIBLE FOR MATCH MAKING) 4. NEW CHAMPS ( IT DOESNT HELP THE GAME) 5. DOGSHIT BALANCING TEAM
@@gas7904 not for OG league players . We went from healthy metas with a lot of viable champions to season 5 tanks meta , class rework meta , censer meta etc etc so many garbage changes that were hated by the old and first league community . For me peak league is season 3 , 4 and 9 and i’ve being playing since season 2
Thank you, this is exactly what “losers queue” is referring to btw it’s that the ranked matchmaking has decided which team is going to win. Whether it be engagement matchmaking or the system “testing” your skill at your rank. There is no excuse. Every game should be as balanced as possible. No matter what it should attempt to create a 50/50 game. But it’s so obvious that the matchmaking does the exact opposite. It is designed to predetermine how often you should win and lose. Yes you can push your own rank up or down with skill, but every game in isolation is determined what the outcome should be.
I have a big issue with everyone wanting to FF over the smallest inconvenience. I love kayle, play way too much of her mid. Its hard to win before 20 minutes on her so i focus on the farming and getting level 6. The issue is that my top laner just dove a renekton at 50% hp and lost followed by my rengar ganking a vex and spam pinging the level 3 kayle to help him when hes way too deep. The average IQ of league players have plummeted. I stopped playing ranked recently because it just feels frustrating to be low impact if i pick someone i enjoy, or struggle with a high impact pick because i dont play them that much and dont find their mechancis fun. League just doesnt feel like its in a good state at the moment.
I think a lesser mentioned issue is the players being part of the problem. A lot of players just play how they want with no consideration for the strengths and weaknesses of other champs. Does the game just have too much content that people just resign themself to playing casually?
Games are decided way too quickly now yes. Mostly because people threw tantrums over the games lasting on average 30 minutes. Now it either lasts 15 minutes, or 45 minutes. What an improvement!
i think IQ is an issue as well. pretty sure it's the millions of migrants the west recieves a year, that *will* have an effect on games with high player counts
What's really crazy to me is that Riot really seems to expect enough players to play 500 Ranked games in a season to attain their "True Rank". I feel like I played a lot of League this past year and I didn't even play 400 *Normal* games. Maybe adding on other gamemodes like Arena or ARAM and occasional Ranked games I might have done 500 total games in an entire year. Even at 3 games a day every day that's an insane ask. It would take almost 7 months to reach 500 games. And getting trolls and smurfs and AFKs even just one in ten games would be enough to discourage most players.
Oh yeah that reminds me of that one comment I saw telling someone "I bet you didn't even play 400 TFT matches this split which is not much" You instantly know who still goes to school and who not
Blind Pick being removed is also a huge reason why i quit... Because Quickplay sucksss... You are literally going in 50/50 whether or not you're getting the role you asked for... even then if you get it you still have to be concerned whether or not your team is even decent
@@poom323 Plus the queue times are awfully long when its not even worth it sometimes cause your team is straight up garbo and running it down while the enemy has a grandmaster and a challenger
league changed for me when they got rid of the tribunal. i straight up miss pulling that up and going through my queue and reading their chats and whatnot. but for real though, once they got rid of the really fun gamemodes (legend of the poro king, doombots, TWISTED TREELINE) i kinda just....dont 'really' enjoy playing. it all seems like a chore. everything has to be so serious (arena "ladder") and im just here to be stupid and do stupid things.
It never prompted me an install did it install by itself? I haven't touched valorant since the vanguard wants me to give it root access. Is it given automatically on league client?
I leveled an account on EUNE to play with my friends, entered my first placement game in Solo queue and got an Alistar mid who was Iron 4 with 0 LP. Next game, I got a Draven smurf who abused bot lane and was 10/0 in the first 12 min. This is all in placements. Next few games went similarly, I ended up winning 2/5 and got placed in Bronze 4. Because of smurfs and trolls on my team. Needless to say, I won't be playing solo q anymore as it literally isn't about skill, but rather luck. The smurfs could've been on my team, but I pulled the short end of the stick. Flex should be the only queue to exist, and even then there should be restrictions. Like at least 50k points on a champ before you can play it in ranked or something.
It's been so bad that I paid for coaching as an adc main because I can't carry gold games anymore. It's more like, the team won't let me. Without me even saying what I thought my rank was, my coach literally said that I play like an emerald player. Funny thing is, I was consistently an emerald adc and now I can't even carry gold games. The quality is so insanely low that it's like I'm bashing my head into the wall everytime I queue. Now I'm getting +15 - 33lp in gold. You have to be so much better than the enemy that it's insane. I mean, my goal is to reach masters one day, but it feels like I have to play like a masters player right now to consistently win games in GOLD. I think league of legends is an amazing game, but no-one values the competitive experience of ranked anymore and it's becoming miserable. Even 2 splits ago it was so much better.
I wouldnt even bother with a coach atm. Games a mess, Adc is so OP like you say if you team allows you to carry but they just dont. Steal farm, dont peel and fight without you very frustrating. You mmr is dead dead 🤣🤣 sorry
I'm getting coached by an NA challenger and he is quite literally teaching me to play as if I was a smurf beacuse unfortunately just playing correctly isn't good enough
Skill floor is improving much faster than skill ceiling. New players won't stay for ranked because everyone is too good and older good players simply leaving at a slower rate because the game is boring or meta or rigged.
@@pickles4907 I was basically told the same. You can play towards fundamentals all you want, but if your team just constantly ints, the fundamentals aren't enough to carry the game
I think the mmr system is just fucked and should be removed altogether. Put players of a similar rank together and it'll work out far better than putting a 100% win rate draven smurf vs an emerald 49% wr caitlyn. That's just miserable
This is the moment when a simple system works better than a fancy one with a bunch of features. If a person has this rank, it means he deserves to have it, that’s the end. When the system tries to find the “real” rank, the end result is that someone is sitting on gold 3 with +10 / -30 elo and 70% win rate and diamond 2 with +30 / -10 and 30% win rate. The developers thought they were smarterx than us, but in the end they forgot to take off their pants before shitting in the toilet
This is what I’ve been saying for every single game out there. Just put people within the same rank together. Eventually the better players will climb and the weakerr players either stay where they are or fall. Why am I going up against a default draven level 32 account with a 2000% WR
The smurfs are an rng element also. Do you get the tryhard going for 90% climb, or do you get the limit tester who does well, but throws on repeat to try 1v5, or the egoer who loses on purpose because they think you dont deserve to win and they have already proven themselves on main
By the way all of the modern issues with the ranked ladder stem from the removal of smurf queue and that time they "increased" lp gains. I was thinking about making a video on this but im afraid it would fall of deaf ears. Any time you talk about smurf q you get ppl who think they were in smurf queue when they were silver 3 with 60% win rate. It was actually a pretty nuanced system that worked insanely well for controlling game quality but they most likely removed it due to longer queue times.
@Rewleague false positives were so insanely rare. The lol community on reddit has just done nothing beside make the game worse complaining abt things that are actually good.
Lots of the current trolls are elo inflated scripters who had to stop scripting. Their ego cant handle that theyre actuslly bad. Would you rather keep having scripters, or deal with short term ladder chaos?
@brandonstone2754 no idea what this has to do with my comment? But that's litterally not even true. Ban waves happen and probably 95% or more of the accounts that used to script are banned even without vanguard. So wtf are you talking abt?
S13 had more player growth on EUW than S14. S13 was the worst season out of them all so far (most stale season, nothing except jg got changed). So players are quitting for various reasons, but tbh it's the unbelievable amount of griefers and soft trolls that don't get punished. APC support farming mid waves and split pushing, jungler never rotating to any objective and afk full clearing all game. And the worst of all is griefing players that hold you hostage, cause the want you to afk for lp mitigation. Absolutely disgusting.
This is the worst ranked experience ive ever had this season, it really feels like the majority of games are decided in matchmaking its terrible. I think maybe 1 in 20 games is a balanced matchup its so disgusting
Drafts are ok. Rankings are just sick. Interestingly, in Drafts the matches are more normal and the team can play something and help, while in Ranked... you are alone!
Ranked is just a mess. Like why is it even LEGAL to have 2-3 autofilled teammates against full main role team. Why negative WR lobbies exist? Its so obvious when the game tries to get you to 50% wr when you are in a winning streak and suddenly you have to play with 3 teammates that´ve lost last 6-8 games in a row. Flaming of course is punished but soft inting keeps being a thing. Meta champs are stronger than ever. WAAAYYY too much mobility. MAGE items being so fucking cheap and stat overloaded as per usual. CC out of control. Elo inflated players playing in lobbies that are 2x their rank. Wtf is this?
it's honestly how disgusting and inflated the ladder is, the amount of shit players that still somehow climb and inflate themselves because they can just "spam meta champs and climb" is so high, for me personally the biggest issues has to be elo inflation (at least for highelo) and the fact that griefers/inters just never get punished no matter what and also because the game's state took an insane turn for the worst over the last few seasons (s11-12 for me were the last "decent" seasons we had). I've also seen an insane amount of ppl that get "losers queue" and they seem to just not be able to get out of it or whatever else and they end up deciding to quit ranked all together. No idea what people in lower elos will say or what their reasoning might be as to quitting league or ranked or whatever it is, but it's probably smurfs for them which I can understand, playing vs people who are much higher rank than u can be frustrating.
the real problem is that you either smurf or you dont climb, getting out of silver or gold is impossible due to iron players that should have never left the vs Ai games clogging up the matchmaking while new accounts get boosted up to diamond and emerald
@@TheNyancat07 not really, yeah new accounts can get u higher but if ur a silver player you will still be in silver or max gold, new accounts start in silver and unless they have a good normal mmr they won't start in anything higher than gold 3 (which is the current maximum for new fresh accounts with good normal mmr) otherwise you'll end up back in silver. Riot already tried fixing those dame new accounts so instead of playing in emerald or play in ur very first game even as a new player, u now play in silver or gold
@@Nihildaddy66 yeah but lately accounts that were in plat or emerald dropped 5 to 6 leagues due to inting or trolling, there are videos around about it, so players just resort to the easy way, im not condoning it, its just a fact. its way easier to farm anew lvl 30 acc than to climb back from those ranks nowadays
@@TheNyancat07 yeah I do that myself, I'll give u an example. My main was 650 lp grandmaster last season 50 lp off challenger and now that same account is stuck in diamond. And when I start a new account I easily get it to master+ but once it reaches that same mmr and I get the same old shitty players it's the same old story. I'm pretty sure riot just want u to have 50% winrate at most on ur account and that's it.
Honestly, all they need to do to curbe smurfing is introduce bonus lp for winstreaks. They have these insane winrates, so they obviously streak often this would force players to their real elo faster, and shouldn't effect normal people much at all.
@miaoulove1479 who cares about elo boost. People pay to get to ranks they arent suppose to be in, ruin maybe 10 games total, and they tank to the rank they belong in, ruining their lp gains forever.
I agree that placement is all kinds of hell right now. I've been fighting for my life in Bronze 1 for that sweet 27 LP. I know I'm not the best, but I think the system believes I should be around Silver 3, since that's the majority of matchups I get. Oddly, though, that usually includes those in silver who are Plat and Gold peakers on their climb up. After running into them, I currently sit around a 48% wr. In my last 10 ranked matches I went 5-5, 3 of those losses at the hands of climbing plat peakers. The hope is still alive, though, as I've mentally refined my champ pool and playstyle for the future.
It does feel like the game is at it's lowest atm. To me personally, the balancing is insanely shit tier atm, modern champions (nearly all of them from the past 5 years) feel insanely disgusting to go up against (Aurora is gonna be no different). It's been a hot minute since Riot cared about giving a single fuck in regards to respecting their playerbase. Literally the single only good thing that has come out of League in these past years was Arena, SR feels miserable to play.
I stayed in bronze for 4 months thanks to endless trolls and leavers, won all my placement matches but my account is old. Suddenly went from bronze 5 to plat1 within 2 weeks. I must have had an immeasurable increase of skill all of a sudden.
The problem is queuing up with random people to play competitively. This formula just ends up as a disaster no matter the elo and game. As long as this option exists and people opt into it, they will end up having a terrible time. There is too much variance/inconsistency in a game where you people with random people. This is the heart of the problem and haven't seen anyone mention this. Overall, the game at it's core is a great, but I avoid modes where you queue up with random people. I'd much rather play solo, 1v1, or with a pre-made group, knowing that I'll enjoy the game with friends and play cooperatively. I guess it depends on how tolerant people are when they face these variances/inconsistencies.
man ive literally chatted with my team about enemy comp before (in teamchat) in the beginning of the game and got muted for the match cause apparently something i wrote was wrongspeak.. there was no flaming or anything we were just talking about lineup and riot comes and griefs me so that i cant communicate with my team anymore. No wonder nobody types anymore.
@@mrmangbro6842 lmao yeahh i remember, i wrote "sry im retarded" once after a missplay... never to be seen again in the chat after that cause i got system muted😂
Vanguard literally bricked my PC. Twice. I had the same artefacts on my screen as if GPU chip burned. All due to the fact that I use Dr.Web antivirus which is not compatible with Vanguard. Aaaaand 500$ Ahri skin, I thought for a long time that it was like some kind of joke, but turned out to be true. I peaked Diamond 3 as Sett main and a period between Emerald and Diamond was absolutely worst gaming experience I've had in years. Thinking about selling my account. I just play Dota 2 from time to time to feed my urges to play moba which it kinda does (unfortunately there is no Sett in Dota or anything similar) and doesnt make me addicted.
The game is SHIT from any perspective. Client doesn't work properly, game doesn't work properly, solo/duo ranked just doesn't work, balance is nonexistent, new champions are shit, new skins are shit, a lot of bugs are here for years unfixed. And they dont do anything - because, mostly, a lot of people still log in on daily basis. Everyone is just so addicted that there is no reason to do anything.
i reached my peak last split at emerald 2 after playing ranked for last 2-3 years and i’ve always been competitive but i’ve only done my placements this split ended at plat 1 at end of split and i can’t even be bothered to play ranked this season because i’m an ornn otp and it feels like even if i go 5/0/0 in lane before lane ends i have 0 impact in the result because the other team gets one fed carry and i might as well not play the game
With all due respect, why would you expect a different outcome? I love playing tanjs but the reality is that a tank should not be able to 1v9, even if it's a fed toplaner. Unless you are the only giga fed one in a game, tanks are not designed as 1v9 carries... An Ornn sure is good to play as a coordinated team that knows each other, but to gain enough lp to climb in soloq? You are making your life harder, and the truth is, that if you are waiting to be able to stomp every game as a tank top main, you are never going to come back to the game unless they fck up bad on a patch and you can play until it's reverted
"If you play enough, you'll be the rank you deserve." No. Riot uses engagement match making. So you win, play another. Win, play another. Lose, play another. Lose, stop playing for 2 days to avoid the game thinking you'll play more when you lose. You've, at best, broken even in LP. Unless you get at least 3 wins before a 2 lose streak and stop for the day, you can't climb.
Splution to trolls and griefers? Remove that fucking surrender button. The first month will be ass as people throw their tantrums, but game quality in total will improve. That surrender button is the most DERANGED feature Riot ever added.
I was in favour of 15 mins ff as something like 90% of games that were were 4-1 to ff ended in a loss but I’ll admit i think its a mistake. 20 minute ff minimum again pls
that way people can hostage you for even longer wasting your time. Remove FF and you'll see a lot more people opening lanes for the enemy to end faster (if they don't feel like making it even worse by extending the game on purpose). Don't underestimate how malicious people can be, they would enjoy torturing you even more if you can't get out.
Ludicrous savior mentality cope. Stop being a terrorist all because youre up 1k over your lane but your team is 10k behind. There's literally nothing wrong with letting people give up. I'm not sure why you think being held hostage by default will make people do anything but troll and int more
I'm sorry but no I'm cheater, and never scripted or what the hell ever, but my computer is new, like bought it 6 months ago, it's nothing too special, but it's a gaming computer. And now that vanguard is a thing, my computer actually freezes sometimes. Like everything on screen freezes for 3-15 seconds then I get to see what's actually happening afterwards. Can't click anything can't use abilities nothing, and this has NEVER happened in the past. It's absolutely crazy. No my memory is not almost full, and no, I have no virus on my computer, I have an anti virus scan. I've had ping issues in the past where it jumps up and it's hard to understand what's actually happening but actual computer freezes? Never in the history of 10 years of playing on different computers and shit has it froze my computer for a little bit. But it happens now, and it really makes me not want to play the game. It would be different if my computer was old, I could kinda understand, but for it to be new and this happening? What the hell is vanguard actually doing with my computer to have such an impact that it freezes my computer? It's unreal man.
Additionally mentioning the evil decision of making an Ahri skin 500 dollars, as an Ahri OTP I see why people quit League, especially if you have every skin except the 500 dollars skin because imagine someone spending 500 dollars for one change or pixels. And they absolutely dumped Fakers prestige by that decision. Leagues downfall is guaranteed and deserved. You can also expect Valorant to go down like that as well. When players only blame each other instead of the ones implementing these decisions it’s no wonder they continue with that. Either boycott or get milked over time. They don’t care about you as a player they never did. Hope this rings bells. Don’t consume their products if they treat you like that. Narcissists behave like that, if they don’t get called out or stopped they just continue. Boycott or get milked and don’t complain. They continuously will lie in your face and will manipulate the situation so over time you will forget about what they did. Just don’t let them do that with you and boycott this trash ceo‘s together
Omg yes dude...I get so sad when people constantly bring up the Fiddle rework as a gold standard. Like...sure it's thematically great, but they REALLY changed what made the old one funny to play. 1million mastery on him pre rework by the way :(
I must say, as a jungler in plat/emerald. One of the most frustrating things is when i weak side a laner, he get’s ganked, and flames. Or when i try to communicate that we can fight for drake. I see mid and supp rotating for the enemy. And i’m stuck 1v3, then later getting blamed for not getting objectives. A lot of league players have genuinely forgotten that league is a TEAM game. Yes, one play might make you win or turn the game around. But if you don’t play as a team, you will lose most games unless your opponents actively do the same.
The issue summarized: The relationships which most often end up impacting the result of a given match are very sharp. Games aren’t decided by small gaps in skill, they’re decided by whatever lane had the most decisive winner and loser, so it’s difficult to climb rank if you’re just consistently outclassing your opponent in small ways. Going up 20 CS or leaving lane 1-0/2-0 doesn’t really mean much if there’s someone in the game that is 5-0 or worse.
Leaving another comment xD The problem with banning smurfing is that Riot has to decide what smurfing is. To some players, Smurfing is simply ANY player who plays on another account. To other players it is only players who play on another account that is lower than their main. To other players it is playing on an account that is lower that is the same role / champion as your main etc. We often hear of people wanting to practice new champions or a new role but they get too punished doing it on their main. For those players to practice they have 2 options, 1 play normal games which are almost always horrible quality, they just are. They always have been and always will be I think. Or 2, make a 2nd account that can be used for practicing without hurting their main. In theory, making the 2nd account here wouldn't be that much of a problem because it's only 1 account and if they are actually playing a 2nd role or a 2nd champion, they will not be at the same level of their main anyway. A new account would give them the chance to find a comfortable level that matches what they are in this role. In theory as long as they never play their main champion or main role, this could / would / should / not be acceptable depending on your own thoughts. For me, I personally have 3 accounts that are between mid platinum and low gold. On each account I play almost exclusively (auto fill is dumb) one role and so the differences between the accounts represent the differences between my individual skill on the 3 different roles. Someone playing at Gold 4 level in a Platinum 1 game would be reported, but that is the reality if I wanted to swap to jungle from top. My goal would be for all of my accounts to be equal in rating but hey it takes time to learn new champions and it takes time to learn new roles so for now I'll have to settle for my jungle and support gameplay being worse than my top lane.
Well , you're an exception but you can't expect everyone to be a "nice smurf" IMO, the fix is extremely simple. It's already in RIOT's T&S that each player is expected to be playing on a single account. It's just the fact that RIOT doesn't punish anyone abusing this. On contrary, it's encouraged. If riot wants to fix this, they will do it quite easily. Give an ultimatum to anyone that, from the date of "X" , everyone using multiple accounts will get banned on EVERY account. This fixes the issue. A more elegant solution though would be I.D. / bank account account link (at least for ranked games). Ofc, you can borrow your mom's card and I.D but I'm pretty sure 98% would be eradicated with this simple change
@Rewleague a little meandering but hardly anything obtrusive. Unless these are tightly scripted, it seems inevitable that it'll trail to different places. The game is massive with lots of problems, one could make a weekly series addressing them all ahaha
Have to agree with how disgusting that example of a game you showed was. I was/am 70% win rate plat 1 and was excited to push through Emerald but I lose 2-3 matches in a row to a smurfing jungle with me playing as adc, it just took me aback - ...but especially my team mates reaction to it was even worse to see as they just completely gave up even though I'm far ahead in bot. Something about the games suddenly stopped my determination to climb higher even though I get hyped to sometimes - the stress trying to carry against almost always at least one smurf in enemy team with hopeless teammates is so mentally taxing.
I’m a singed main. One time I was playing against a Smurf riven in ranked in gold and I won’t lie, I got absolutely dumped. I think what’s worse is bad games happen, we’ve all fed a game or two unintentionally. I get flamed, say nothing in chat, and riot penalizes my perfect honor 5 and restricts my account for two weeks. I made a rebuttal saying it wasn’t intentional and they said “Nah, we looked into your game and based on the reports, there is no wrong doing on our end.” It’s like what the hell? I quit league after that and never looked back. I shouldn’t be penalized for one bad game.
The only games I lose are against 60%+ wr smurfs, and even when I lose those games I’m still mvp. I miss older games where match making was based on nothing but your visual rank, kda and all other stats didn’t mean anything at all, and it made people care about the win so much more.
But basing it only on visual rank would make the smurfing problem so much worse, a bronze 4 players that always 0/5 and is awfull at the game could be paired against a bronze 4 smurf that has 90% winrate and hard carries every game
Ive been trying to get validation so im glad for this video... ive played through 12 seasons of people saying the game is shit now and that its dying but never felt that until now. Idk if its elo inflation or what, but every single game in emerald has one player BLATANTLY entirely outclassed by their opponent. Like, low diamond vs silver level outclass. The games solely decided on which team has the poor silver player getting clapped. Ive been lucky and usually that guy is on the other team...but its just not fun. At all.
What is quiting ranked going to do for you apart from ur normal or arena games being even more unbalanced in terms of skill difference. Ranked is ranked for a reason, it matches you with players similar with your skill. While yes sometimes 1 or 2 players are way better than the rest it evens out over 50+ games and at the end of the day it's still better matchmaking than any alternative.
@@mark5338 Normal will be much more balanced and overall enjoyable due to less trolls/crybabies griefers etc. Also smurfs aren't reeally a thing in norms. The game shouldn't match you in 5 stacks maybe an occasional 4 stack but even than it will actively match the enemy the same. People don't care as much in norms but thats a double-edged sword because players play better when under no stress of losing gamer points, but the inverse can also happen.
LMAO i got to Gold and I'm like why does feel unfulfilling like just to go through Gold feels like it'll be a hassle....not interested not sure when ill play ranked again for this season.
@@Rewleague like the game is such a good game hence why it's mostly on top of twitch viewership apart from just chatting like as you said the system in place, the smurfs the actual bad players, toxic players like might as well go walk on hot pavement for 20mins lol
Performance based matchmaking is the solution. We used to have this back in 2008 in DotA 1. You would be matched with other players based on your daily performance. Nobody queued for ranking up, everybody played to play a good game and it was pretty balanced. Anybody could perform incredible sometimes and get matched with very good players.
I remember the game during beta testing. It was the most fun experience I’ve ever had playing a video game. No one cared that we didn’t have a ranking ladder. Or that there was only like 35 champions. The game was just fun to play. We would que up over and over for 8 hours a night using Skype for callouts. Jungle wasn’t a roll and no items had unique effects. It was beautiful!
People say this literally every season and the game never dies. It’s all in your heads. Your mindset is stopping your success not the game. Instead of being mad when you lose just focus on improving. Take a loss as an opportunity to learn from mistakes. It’s the only way. I’ve been playing this game for 8 years and only ever reached plat. Last split I decided to really focus on improving and only worrying about what’s in my control. I finished that split emerald 1. This split I just hit diamond 3. Funny how going from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset gets you results. The only reason league is perceived as so toxic is because it has the most whiny player base that refuses to take any responsibility for the impact they have in all their games. Everyone just loves to blame their teammates. Yes there are unwinnable games. Just remember that even if you are a challenger level player you will still lose games in emerald. You should not expect that you can win every game. What you shoot for is a 55-60% win rate by taking consistent plays and saying no to plays that you know don’t work. You don’t hyper focus on the unwinnable games and let them destroy your mental. Just point out mistakes you made and move onto the next one. That’s all you can do and until you accept that you’re never going to make progress.
I think you’ve gotten a lot of these calculations wrong. If you spend any time looking at smurfs with insane winrates, you’ll find they play champions like Gwen, Tryndamere, Jax, Rengar or solo carry Champions that are feast or famine. They start hard dropping in winrate when they reach higher elo. If you play champions like Taliyah, Ornn, Udyr etc, they’re considered weakside stabilisers and even if you play them well in low elo, you’re going to find it hard to climb with above 60% winrate as they’re team reliant. Where they really shine is in high elo where you essentially maintain that same winrate by playing consistently with small wins in lane and good teamfights. Midbeast doesn’t generally play hard carry champions, you can also look at Makkro, where he maintained 55-63% winrate in his Korea climb to challenger on Ornn. Really big misconception many people have on winrates.
True but midbeast in gold and plat should be stomping on taliyah. Agreed an ornn is going to be lower than a gwen though theres definitely a reason boosters all play the same champs
i think the issue is that the system takes way too long to pick up if a player is smurfing or not, a human can pick that up right away using stuff like porofessor, however the system still needs hundreds of games for some reason, in my opinion the system shouldnt just determine skill based on win or loss, performance also plays a significant role. this is how the system should work: determine a players skill level in about 10 games, and then he should skip divisions until he gets to the rank based on performance, not get like 38 lp but in return face other smurfs to make each smurf take 100 games+ to get to their true rank. the reason midbeast has a low winrate is because even if you are smurfing, bad matchmaking will get you and make your climb take as long as possible, doesnt matter if you are challenger, the only way to get these 90%+ winrates is if you play duo queue, thats the only way to outmatch the horrible matchmaking, you basically need 2 challengers smurfing together in emerald to get avove 90% winrate. thats why draven and gwen have a higher winrate than midbeast btw, because they are pretty much cheating and he isnt, he would probably still 1v1 both of them, duo is just that unbalanced. also the reverse is also true, if someone plays their first 5 placements games, being a new player pretty much iron4 skill level somehow being placed in plat 4 going 0/5 with horrible performances, that player should drop down a lot faster instead of running down like 50 plat and gold games he should be placed in iron4 right away.
Yeah league just isn't fun anymore, i'm almost 60% wr emerald 3, could easily climb to diamond in like a week of playing constantly but i just quit the game because it's pure dissapointment EVERY single match and every single day logging in to this game, people that should get banned still infesting your lobbies, people just giving up after 5 minutes of laning so then you have to be extra tryhard just to barely win the game which mentally exhausts you, no new changes to the game, SHIT microtransactions like the passes make you don't even want to spend money on the game or should i say MACROtransactions *cough cough ahri bundle cough cough*.Oh and don't even make me mention all the new skins they're releasing in the shop like the infernal and faerie court ones where they blatantly reuse assets and put no passion into the skins,making them look like they released 15 years ago. League team is just extremely lazy atp, it's a billion dollar company and they spend 2+ years making a fucking vgu, just for referrence Smite which is a WAY smaller MOBA and company compared to league like 20x smaller was at a point making 3 vgu's A YEAR... They have no excuse, it's disgusting that i even have to play with a 5 polygon model like zilean,gragas,malphite etc with 3 animations in one of the MOST POPULAR games on the entire PLANET. They pat themselves on the back when they make a new gamemode every 5 years only to remove it in 3 months. This game is just disgusting and i can't believe im saying this but moving to Fortnite out of all games has been a breath of fresh air, they're releasing content bi-weekly, like actual content, guns,npcs,events,collabs you name it and it's probably in Fortnite. Epic isn't the greatest company ever, they make alot of mistakes and fuck-ups but compared to riot??? night and day. And it's actually surprising the amount of cosmetics you get for completely free, you could be playing without spending a penny for an entire year and after that you're gonna actually have a stacked locker, its crazy, compared to League where after a year you can maybe have what? 10 skins which 8 of them were made in 2009 and are basically chromas, 3 ward skins and 15 icons. Sorry for the rant but i just had to get it off my chest.
Exactly the problem is even exaggerated if a jungler is trolling or does not know what to do you are unable to play as a squishy in low elo. Damage is so high that if you have a bruiser or assassin fed in the enemy team you a forced to lose even if you play really good at your elo. It is just coinflip atm until assassins and jungle role is nerfed. Then you can also nerf down adc as well again.
Lots of the current trolls are elo inflated scripters who had to stop scripting. Their ego cant handle that theyre actuslly bad. Would you rather keep having scripters, or deal with short term ladder chaos?
again low elo dude complaining about assassins role when this role in it's worst for 2-3 season (no, 1-2 exceptions that actually aren't really assassins won't make whole role justified to nerf), and not complaining about current state of game/balance-dps, with ADC being highest ever overbuffed
@@kantror100 if assassins are so bad why are they constantly picked in pro play? Why are even phreak and august saying THEY are the problem and the reason for all the dramatic changes? Yes assassins are the problem and the reason every champion has to oneshot because otherwise you dont get to play the game. Assassins can dodge every skillshot with ease and kill even bruisers in a blink of an eye. And Riot admitted they love that because it makes the game interesting and keeps league alive because of the outplay tiktoks.
@@amilo5 yeah Phreak problems ;) tell me more, which one of those assassin was played in LCK/LPL lately: Ekko, Evelyn, Daiana, Fizz, Kassadin, Katarina, Akshan, Nocturne, Pyke, Qiyana, Shaco, Talon ;) can't wait to see when last time August said something about those being overbuffed :)
@@kantror100 He said something about: Akali, Elise, LeBlanc, RekSai, Lee Sin and infact PYKE. All played in proplay. He then proceeded to talk about q spam on Zed and why Zed is the one kept at 46-48% winrate to state an example of what ALL assassins should be like in their winrate.
I remember someone saying there is 40% of games you lose no Mather what you do, 40% you win no Mather what you do and only 20% that are decided by your own performance. This includes prettymuch all of the mentioned points in the video. As in your games will be miserable, some will be for your enemies and if you play long enough you climb … eventually
Honestly the biggest problem is the players. One bad play and at least one player starts spam pinging, begging to ff, flames, runs it down if u talk back, etc. One of these things happens in EVERY SINGLE GAME i play. People are so upset when they are losing, they can’t think straight and cant play properly. Then when they bring down their teammates, it’s quite often gg and the game becomes miserable where queuing up was the biggest mistake of the day. Im new to ranked. I have played only normals for the past 2 years but decided to play ranked to see where i would place. After doing so i quit league and feel much better - that’s how bad the community is. Normals aren’t fun for me anymore - also i found the quality of normals matches to be much better than most of my ranked, which supports my belief.
It is like this in unranked, too. I am against people farming for level 30 who have literally admitted to being like diamond smurfs after going 20/0 in 10 minutes... I also constantly either get matched against people in like silver and gold when I am definitely not that good. I have a 15% winrate in my last 20 games, and in every one of them, my team has been an average of 700 levels lower than the enemy team. Like what? Why?
If I'm being perfectly honest, I don't usually hit my rank because I remember ranked is a thing two weeks before the end of the season, put it off a little more, and by the end of the season I've played like twenty games lol. Unfortunately this results in a lot of weirdness like me being 'silver 4' in my placements, and playing against platinums, doing just fine and even carrying. Like it puts me where I should be eventually, but it never seems like other people are enjoying it. I'm also now fairly convinced that people just can't derank from Emerald, the people I see in that rank are... Questionable.
Too many people have their hands in the cookie jar to start banning smurf accounts as it is a huge factor in terms of revenue being made in this game. I wouldn't even be surprised if Rioters were in on this as well. It's just too easy to make money off of. But yes, this is a big factor as to why I quit league myself. I've been screaming this for years on Reddit then started getting my posts removed with no reason given.
As someone who persistently can hit diamond solo, the amount of games has tripled to hit my "peak" and then when I get diamond, somehow the gameply quality is really bad and i'll get d3, then somehow get peopel who play worse than emerald 2-1, and solo-lose the game either opn a bought account, afk, ego "take this loss", and then not get banned for it. The problem is tribunal really needs to come back, not chat restricting everyone who is trying to coordinate or actually provide constructive criticism that is valid.
I was emerald, played a shit load with the -50 for deranking. Had a bad losung streak and now im in silver 1. I know i can get back to emerald but i dont want to play 300 games to get there with all the trolls and idiots ill be getting.
I think we can agree, Riot needs to invest in better systems of recognition of smurf play. By tracking things like: Actions per minute, Camera movement, Speed of navigating shop/buying items, Vision control, Backing timers, Skillshots hit, Damage, K/D/A, etc. Those factors can be added together and compared to average players of the same rank. I don't think smurfing can't be removed, so get smurfs facing diamond/master players quicker!
This focus on „Smurfs“ is so subjective. I’m chilling on my main in emerald and from gold up until there I have not seen a significant enough amount of Smurfs to even remember them. The people that I see trolling are those that are fine with plat or emerald (maybe because they „peaked“ after the introduction of emerald) and just never adapt to the fed player on the team or troll them because they think it’s a smurf… the ego in this game is disgusting from everyone after gold and it’s ruining way more than any so called smurf I ever saw.
I don't know why some people are afraid of stating losers queue is real. Here's my story, I didn't play for a year, played a good chunk of normals with friends and got back into league, I was plat for multiple seasons (before the addition of emerald). I got placed in Silver4, where I clearly don't belong, I get to plat 2 in errr, 50 games? 68% winrate, then suddenly losers queue hits, my next 60-70 games almost half my games I am 4v5, not cuz of a bad teammates, cuz of an actual afk, or a troll, or a 0-13-0 players at 15 mins running it down. I got demoted all the way down to SILVER 3. Now I'm finally out of losers queue, I made it to gold 2 again, I have an 80% winrate my last 25 games, and I'm hard carrying almost all of them because I'm playing against people that are literally 2-3 divisions below my actual skill level. It makes no sense, I went from my bottom of the barrel below 50% winrate, 100 wins 104 losses to 130 wins 109 losses. And it's not like my teams are great either, I'm just no longer getting people that legit run it down or go afk after 5 mins.
People have to understand, looking in, from the outside, after quitting like 10 years ago, League looks fucking miserable. What would a new player think? They just see people screeching about team mates, smurfs, inting, more screeching about items and champs being completely unbalanced to the point top lane has a ranged adc at rank 1. Why would anybody want to subject themselves to that lmao
I had a friend of mine who is Diamond play on my Silver account for 2 weeks while I was gone on vacation. He played something like 50 games. I went from silver 1 to bronze 2. And if you look at his score, he wasnt the problem for 90% of the games. His KDA was 3-5kda. A few of his games he lost lane, but the average games he lost, which was a 40% win rate, wasnt his fault. He told me it was amazingly hard, and toxic. The other problem is even if you have a 55% win rate, you still lose LP. A win gives you 23lp. A loss takes 27lp. So if you have a 54% win rate, 100 games played 54/46, you break even in LP. If you have a 53% win rate, you lose 50lp. I have a 55% win rate, and i am hard stuck. Its not gEt GoOd, its luck at this point. Your video is correct. The times ive been in a bronze 1 elo, and vs a gold 1, is mind blowing. The times ive been in Silver1 and playing against emerald people, is staggering.
On the flip side you get an autofilled literally silver bordered jungler in your emerald promos after you get counter picked top because shop didn’t want to give last pick. Ask me how I know.
There is another fundamental issue with league... In most cases, in order to "have fun", you have to make sure someone else *doesnt*. With the gold and power creep, overwhelming champion design of late, and the proliferation of the "ff go next" mental... "climb"? Mate it's hard to find the motivation to even play for me.
and that is why i only play if im bored or on drugs to be honest, cause holy shit finally someone actually gets it and releases it, as i always say "the higher u get the dumber they are" since the queue is so fucked or too many smurfs like in csgo
I don't know if pre-level 30 games would affect your match-making, but in my main account, I'm in Iron II, in my other account, I frequently paired with Platinum and Emerald players, sometimes even low Diamonds. Almost never I'm against or I have in my team someone lower than gold. This is because I just played like 160 rankeds in 2022, when I was truly awful, and then in the last two years very few ranked games. Almost only ARAM and normal games. And as I don't play more than, like 10 games per season split, this ended up happening
If they just added voice chat it would solve 60% of the problem. If you could just communicate minimally with your team, do setups, clean vision, call out the trolls and ask them politely to pay attention… game changer.
Actually, as someone who creates 20 accounts a season and climb to diamond regularly , I can confirm that this huge diff team only happens in emerald, I got so many times against challenger players with new accounts, challenger boosters etc
azzapp has a crazy good poker analogy about trolling/inters. that analogy proposes that lol is like poker where the teammates are the cards you are dealt. the best poker players dont get to the world championship every year because they get crazy good cards every time. they are crazy skilled and knowledgeable about poker to the point where it doesnt matter if they have really bad or good cards they'll come out on top 55% of the time which is enough to get to the pro leagues. the same goes for lol. it doesnt matter how bad your teammates are, all that matters is how good you are over 100-1000 games, because trolls,smurfs and inters will make a negligible impact across those 100-1000 games because for as many smurfs on enemy team there will be one on the enemy, for every troll on your team there is one on the enemy team. youll most likely win the same amount of games due to trolls on enemy team as you will lose to trolls on your team, same goes for smurfs,inters and all sorts of teammates, its all about the 20 or so % of games you DO have an impact on, because those games will determine if you have a 40% winrate or a 60% winrate going from 40% auto lose and auto win. but you dont know which games are auto win or lose, so you should try your best every game. and the fix for trolls/inters or tilters the solution is that high level streamers should adopt the azzapp mentality, so the people watching are seeing them not give up, so they wont give up in their respective matches. but its also on the individual players to adopt that mentality
Since Vanguard came out I got placed in iron after 1 win for some reason even though I was gold the previous season, I have since climbed up to emerald 2 with over 65% winrate, feels like the easiest I have ever climbed too, so even if there is a bunch of smurfs they are nowhere near as bad as the hackers we no longer have
Over the years I spent a lot of money on this game. I stopped playing because I’m scared of chatting or even ping communicating with my team. I am so scared of getting banned because of their harsh treatment of “bad communication” or whatever. Also regarding the ranking matchmaking and the community’s perception of the ladder. If Masters is bad idk what to say even Diamond IV players, by metrics of statistics across all logged ranked players, are within top 5% of the ranked players in the world. A Gold player meeting a Diamond player is beyond busted. Masters shouldn’t even meet anything below Diamond.
I had this guy in one of my plat/emerald games. When i played against him he was 25 wins 1 loss, 94% win rate. This dude is a giga smurf boosting a Nami in ranked. He must have bought the account with low MMR because when i played against him he was only gold with a 94% win rate 26 games.
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in League of Legends its not the Best Player who decides the Outcome of the game but the Worst...
My 5 minute painful microsoft paint drawing hopefully helps people understand this 🤣🤣🤣 even if you gap your laner 3-0. Another trolling lane thats 0-8 completely invalidates your lead
@Rewleague why the name change? On topic with that comment though, yup you can gap your lane lose then get told your trash because you couldn't care the 0/8 it's insane
@@lilflossin14 what name change? This is it the 0/8 jungle will be like ‘mid gap’ 🤣🤣 delusional players
Since Vanguard dropped I climbed from Emerald to Master 300 Points as ADC in solo que without a duo. Don't blame skill Issue on the gamestate.
@@Rewleague oh it says Rewleague now instead of just Rew?
They don't release their matchmaking algorithm for a reason. It's not designed to be fair. It's designed to keep you grinding.
youre malding
Yeah, this is not even debatable. Everyone sat in the loading screen before and wondered why a team of plats is playing against a mix of silvers and golds or something similar to this. Or why a full team of on-role is matched against a team with 3 autofills. Sometimes its rigged in your favour and sometimes its rigged for the other teams favour.. and sometimes you actually get a fair game, those exist too but its crazy how much time is just wasted on autowins or autlosses.. its just not fun.
@@michaelb8690 youre braindead.
anyone one who legit believes this and is under masters should legit just quit cause its just you thats the reason your stuck
@@scotlandsbest6039 its not about being stuck it just wastes your time, it doesn't keep you stuck. If someones stuck thats their fault either cause skill issue or cause not enough games played.
1. Adding emerald
2. Removing every form of actual communication in this game, say 2 words you get chat restricted.
3. Doubling down on every bad design in the game, by following it up with an even worse design.
These are the 3 things that i think ruined the game
emerald probably helped everyone apart from emerald players
Why is adding emerald a bad thing lmao. People keep coping that the game and everything is against them. D4 hardstucks are losing their minds because they can't flex their "high elo" diamond accounts anymore. If you're not GM+ why do u even care about ranked rank, it's literally pointless that's why it's called low elo, it's playing for fun.
The real problems are them releasing overstat reworked champs and refuse to nerf them for some reason and them not giving bigger punishments for afking. Not because Billy Boy can't climb out of emerald (which is his peak rank since if you're a better player you JUST climb out of it)
@@mark5338 it is bad, cause they didnt add it properly, so now everything from gold 1 to diamond 4 are stuffed into the same elo, and you have to get lucky to get the diamond players and not the gold ones in your team, i've got out of emerald but emerald 4-3 is by far the hardest and most infuriating elo i have ever played in
Smurfs, account sharing, elo boosting
ever since emerald came out masters has had more people in it than ever before. The ranked inflation is insane master now is d4 from years ago
The thing is it only takes ONE troll or ONE person smurfing to destroy a whole game.
yea but people just dont get it. I can only find real humans in this channels comment section. Every dipshit redditor will just tell you that you suck cause you cant carry a troll. XDDDDDD
Sadly you cannot even smurf reliably anymore and you have to rely on your team to not suck
@@sanzyboy3952:). Idk how i ONLY find real humans with functioning brain under this channel, but i guess, we can gather together here, and lets hope we can make some impact on riot.
@@sanzyboy3952 lol thats bs , i climb to emerald on my smurf with 95% wr from bronze 3 , if ur smurfing ur winning the vast majority of ur games
It's a team game, what do you expect? If having one troll wouldn't change much, it's not a team based game. It's like that for literally any game.
"Engagement Matchmaking" is just a fancy way of saying losers que
What does he mean by Engagement matchmaking? Are ppl queued together so they stay addicted?
@@Elimbi1 Something along the lines of riot giving you enough wins and enough loses to maximise the number of games you actually engage in the game. By this logic, they think that if you get to your desired rank too easily, you might stop playing ranked altogether, but if you actually lose some, you'll want to grind that rank that you might "eventually" claim at the end of the season.
@@xyoh123 that's devious hooooolllyyyyyyyyy
@@xyoh123 honestly I had a string of games where at least of my teammates end the game with 0/8 1/7 that kind of stuff but it could just be luck of fortune
@@Elimbi1 I never believed in the rigged matchmaking as in winner or loser queue. Nevertheless when you're blue side you have the advantage of the map so to balance this, red side will have higher elo players. But in really it only affects GM+/Challenger players since the gap can be count in hundreds of lp, you can look at every high elo players side winrate (they always have more games on red side and a great winrate) by yourself on leagueofgraph for exemple.
Another issue is that riot has no interest in banning smurfs since it artificially increases the „new“ player count which is important for investors and smurfs tend to buys skins therefore making profit for riot.
Smurfs are not a player issue. Smurfs are an issue of the higher up matchmaking taking 30-90mins to find a game. Sure some will still have smurfs. But it sure as hell won't be this many.
Think about it like: you should be happy if u play vs smurf, because u learning to olay vs stronger peoples.
Change your mind.
Mental diff bro.
@@avinashshaheed9597 yh, but if all of them go into lower queues to smurf doesn't that leave even less people in those higher queues?
Like if all high elo players smurf queue times should go up even higher in theier actual elo
@AndrewPacketikov Tell that to the smurf, they themselves can't handle the loss, which is why they smurf. Do you expect new player to react positive with the smurf?
@@AndrewPacketikov That's just not how it works, this isn't COD where u might get few kills here and there vs better players, this is league of legends, if someone is 10x your peak, you will lose miserably and u won't even know why u lost... You can play out the same game 100 times in a row, u never win. It is just too complex of a game for you to learn anything while getting curb stomped from minute 1.
Idk why they can’t just do what Valve does with DotA 2. Link a phone number to the account, the account must have 100 games played, and have a positive conduct summary
Because smurfs account inflate new players numbers to satisfy the stockholders
Because riot, and everyone who’s paying attention, knows that riot is so terrible at security that having any real identity connected to the account is a legit safety concern and means much more serious lawsuits.
@@LeeSimp9029 This. We cant trust them after their ENTIRE GAME leaked lmfao
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla not to mention the fact that they played chicken with hackers and got their entire source code leaked. Am I supposed to pretend they won’t do the same with any identifiable information I give them?
Pretty sure that riot is using some sort of irl id card system in Asian countries. So it is possible but might be an issue with data security or however its called.
The list of things that eventually made me quit:
1) Riot Vanguard (the list of things I hate about it would be probably be too long to fit in a YT comment)
2) Removal of useful pings (remember "just type karthus ult"?)
3) DPS going from Damage Per Second to Damage Per Screenshot (fights lasting more than 10s is apparently bad for tiktok viewers retention)
4) €500 Ahri skin
Those are just some of the most ludicrous examples that I came up with in the moment, I'm sure there are a lot more that I'm forgetting
It is no longer DPS it is BPS
Burst Per Second
what about smurfs? They are in 1/6 of my games probably
@@jackweatherhead8171 They never meant much to me. One should play ranked with the mindset to improve, the only thing that matters is the journey and the knowledge that you have gained through it
Can't wait for season 15 where you can buy an item that just instantly executes the enemy, might as well cut all the fluff if everyone becomes a one shot bot at one item anyways
Lee sin is an assassin now. But he still tanks and has low CDs. And he isn't even the worst offender. He's still presented as one of the most balanced and fair champs around and that being true IS a big L for league. If Lee sin is a balance standpoint the game is, and it really is, completelly off.
The sad part is the fact you don’t even enjoy a win anymore. As a jungle main it’s definitely become the most toxic it’s ever been for us lot - the honour system they made is legit anti jungler since you always get flamed or reported regardless of how well you play.
I do also believe there is a loser queue of sorts where after a certain amount of wins you get paired with people either with abysmal win rates or terrible honour ratings to balance out their bizarre match making method. It’s insane how those games you just get the worst experience ever with the worst humans ever lol
pretty much every modern game has that matchmaking system its complete cancer, notice how u never go win lose win lose its always streaks and 70% of games feel uncontrollable
Yes! My match history now for the last 40-50 games looks like this: 5 straight wins,4 straight losses, 5 straight wins,4-5 straight losses and so on. The system is made to maximize the amount of games you play so they can have player retention but it's working against them. Like it works maybe for the first 100-150 games since you think you can extend the winstreak but if you just look at your match history its a clear pattern. Disgusting.
Losers Q does exist, but there's a trick to it, you can quickly deflate your elo if you have a negative winrate role (don't do Supp, you'll easily get carried, pick mid) where a single lost is a massive strike to your mmr.
I won 17 games in a row from unranked to gold, 17 wins then 1 loss then 2 wins…. Then every single game since then (9 games) I’ve had the absolute scum of the earth chinese named players on my team that literally just run it down. I had a Chinese named adc be 0-9-0 at 12 minutes…. He died almost 1 time a minute for the first 12 minutes of the game.
@@nyrxownsand the thing is nowadays the difference between silver and diamond doesn’t exist . Already in season 9 i was feeling something was not tight playing in diamond wasn’t the same as before but nowadays it’s literally losing to riot matchmaking especially if u have an old account like mine with 11 years . Surely the avg player got better i did get better too and there’s no way i’m worst than 5 years ago in terms of skills champion pool and knowledge
Im in mid to high Diamond right now and it feels like 20% of games are in my control.
I’m an ADC main and I’m getting auto filled to jg and top a lot. Sometimes I’ll play with Masters players, sometimes there’s a lvl 30 plat account with 100% win rate on the enemy team who is either a GM + Smurf or a scripter.
80% of games are just pure randomness where I have no control over the outcome of the game. On my main account I almost never have over 10 deaths as ADC, I don’t understand how I’m matched with people who die non stop constantly in high diamond games. These people should know how to play safe after going 0/1 in lane
i swear its just perma autofills u now, im mid player but the last couple weeks i get autofilled nearly every 2nd game atleast and i used to always get mid 90% of the time
@@joeschipper6465 i didnt want to play on my main and on my second account is dia and i get as sup perma autofilled or when im not than i get random that dont know how to play with waves. You lose lane because your adc dont know when to push and when not. You cant roam, because your jg and mid dont wanna play with you just a clown show.
but thats lol nowerdays just retards everywhere and you cant right in chat, because you get chatrestriced after 3 sentence. just gg
and its for me a 50 form a 100 in this split
I uninstalled today after two games with afks. The first one an emergency, then jung went afk when we were ahead. second someone went afk after their lane had 3 deaths. we had two drakes and all voidlings.
@@juancarlosflores7376 you got clienst i wish you a good live.
@@juancarlosflores7376 I mean now you at least lose less lp/mmr when you have an AFK but the worst thing is having soft inters almost every game.
So basically you have to play 500 games where presumably %35-45 (depending on your true rank) of them will be miserable because of factors outside of your control. That is insane, why even play the game at that point.
yeah i quit
It's not a game, it's a hamster wheel.
You played 500 games?? Holy shit dude, does your time have zero value?
@@GoznerPeter Theirs plenty of tonal language in their that heavily implies i did not? Idk if u just read it to fast or not very thruoughly but no i didnt.
Because people like to self sabotage
ranked is miserable not because its rigged (always has been for a long time) but because you no longer have any satisfaction for playing correctly when you see that you play a bad champion that you always played and liked playing vs someone playing urf in classic or because you cant enjoy laning when junglers are perma ganking, etc etc , what i mean is that the pace of the game is so fast now that its a clown fest not worth to climb
So many minor issue’s that together ruin the best game ive ever played
funny that u say the game is very fast paced bc i feel the opposite, the broken state of tp in solo lanes and the nerfs to snowballing over the years has rewarded scaling so much more than playing in the edge which for me would be much more fun
True, you have to put so much effort into playing some champions just because of them being older champions where as the newer or just easier can use a 4th of the effort and and 4x the results, for instance Garen and Akshan are perfect examples of this. Garen just presse's his 3 buttons and you die instantly, Akshan just E's the mid wall and 3 shots u.
Rigged ranked and bad champions in 2024 sounds like a lot of cope. There are some champs on the weaker side but no champ at all is just straight up weak and keeping u hardstuck if you're a better player.
@@Oozy007 I mean an opinion and a fact are two different things.
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The game is OBJECTIVELY FASTER. Period. Average game time has gone down by like 50% since league started. Damage creep is at a nearly all time high, people die within milliseconds of a fed character showing up on their screen. Basically every champion added within the past few years has some form of dash. And Lee Sin mains in literal bronze are pulling off insecs...
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The game is objectively faster. Your point on "scaling vs snowballing" sounds extremely misguided. Perhaps you do not know how to exert your leads properly when you snowball? I'm not sure, but what you are talking about is not an actual problem in the game.
"if you keep improving and playing with consistency you'lll climb" Riot needs to understand that most people don't wanna play hundreds of low quality games in each of their 3 season splits.....
I came across someone in my ranked game that has more than 360 ranked games clocked 1 month into the split now lol. EDIT: 379 ranked games as of this post
That is nearly 8 days of in game play time assuming the average game duration is 30 mins…
@@Siigrit 398 games now lol. Frost Sorrow is the name.
You know you can que up normals right?
@@saladyn8986Its not any better. People nowadays act like Draft Pick is ranked.
I basically never play ranked anymore. Just normals and arams for me. Removing the bs ranked pressure and just focusing on having fun playing the game.
This comment will get lost amongst the others but I wanted to just mention something that might get forgotten.
"Why are you forced to play through a load of gold players" in regards to that Gwen smurfing. Riot's system does actually have MMR detection for first time Ranked (no prior season) accounts but it uses your normal MMR. The assumption being a new player will have played a bunch of normal games on the xp grind from level 1 to level 30. This system is actually fine imo and gets hate because of a different issue and not fault of it's own.
If that Gwen player had actually played the 100 normal games grinding that account up to level 30 to play ranked, then the system would definitely have placed them in a much higher bracket. But we all know what really happened. That Gwen player did not level that account. You know it, I know it, everyone knows that account was levelled by a bot or someone else and then the Gwen player bought the account. This gives that account the mmr of whoever previously owned it.
The thing about LoL's mmr is that it is quite "sticky". It likes to stay around the same point and not be too impacted by sudden shifts, you see this often when you "reset" every split and still play at against and with the same players or how players who actually make and level their own accounts often get the same rating as their main nearly instantly. But the problem with this is that if someone else levels the account, the system wants to believe the player who levelled it is whatever mmr they were and their insane sudden shift in champion, playstyle and win ratio is luck. It can take a while for these bought accounts mmr to fix itself even when the new owner of the account is completely 1v9ing.
This is spot on. Me and you can look at that account and see its botted i checked match history it is. But some how riot cant? Its a joke
@@Rewleague they can, but they dont want
I can vouch for that. I lvled up account not so long ago playing drafts the entire time. I ended up in plat/emerald elo. But there is downside to that. Quickplay/Normal Draft supposed to be a place where you can queue up and play whatever you want. You want to learn new champ/role? That's should be the place for it. But it isn't, people will tryhard, pull off their highers mastery champions because now not only they can boost their ego, they have also a reason to do that, especially on the fresh account. So now instead of Bronze having ruined ranked games, lvl 10 players have their games ruined. It shouldn't be like this, no new player should have his game ruined by ego driven morons regardless if they are playing normal draft or ranked in bronze (let's be honest Quick Play is just cancer center).
@@Rewleague that would require them to HIRE people. To you know, do a job. Riot can't do that. That would mean... PAYING people. Nononono it has to be automated or there is no solution. Remember: Riot is trying to set this game up to practically run itself (even if it's terrible) so that they can spend nothing and make millions. They do not care about the quality of matches (any elo) because they don't make money off of that. It is really that simple. Don't forget: Tencent. Chinese corporations have nothing but poor reputation for quality control no matter what industry. Because quality control costs money. So they just don't do it. If league players want a major league reform, start praying for China to send boats at Taiwan. I'd bet a kidney we will see WW3 before we see Tencent give Riot the funding they would actually need to make a major reform.
Sounds like the problem lies in the "sticky" MMR then. If an account suddenly started to win 20+ games in a row, it should be skipping divisions instead of being capped at +30 lp per game, regardless of how low it started imo. The faster a smurf climbs, the less games they'll ruin before getting to their rank. But riot doesn't want people to climb fast. They want people to commit to extended playtimes so it looks better.
80% of my games, it's one of the following;
0-10 botlane at 15
0-6 Midlaner at 15
0-4 Jungle with zero objs at 20
I don't care how good I play I can't stop a 10-0 Kat, 8-0 Jinx, etc. Just old, no emotions it's just old.
I am in bronze. And one thing you didn't mention... what about the afk? I lost 4 games because of that. It is true you lose half of LP but I want free LP, too.
Yeah it’s frustrating… I’m still iron because I had a few Afks yesterday and I just started rank and it was horrible. I’m Silver in flex but solo is the worst crowd…
@@bobobubu7850 I’m high plat low emerald I don’t have an issue with afks. Once every 20 games maybe.
Can check league of graphs lower ranks have more afk %. Gotta say I dont see many afk like the other guy said maybe 1/20 it’s the 0-10 botlane flaming is my main issue
@@bobobubu7850 Losing half LP is still too much. If you have an afk'er, then it's just not a fair match-up.
And afk'ers aren't other player's problems anyways. They leave games and afk cause they think its a sure loss and don't want to waste time. Or are just fed up and walk away. Both are Riot's problem and lead right back to balancing issues. None of that should *ever* be placed on the other players in the match. In any way.
that moment when the wholesome chungus tank wipe your hp bar by half while your champ barely scratches their shield really tell something about the current balancing of that game. I played league because it was skill expressive. now there's so much damage in the game that your skill can no longer carry you, people are all meta slaves.
Atleast there champion stuck to thier an adc can actually kill the tank if played right
Now everyone is just assassin
Skill issue, post opgg hahahahha u wont h ahahahahhaha
people are all meta slaves 💀💀💀💀💀💀 man ur just not good enough at your fruity pick to beat people of your skill level
This while tanks still getting melted in seconds, why the fuck everything need to have so much DMG, as a tank enjoyer I'm fine with having an hard Laning phase and good team fight potential, but WHY I NEED TO DO SO MUCH DMG AND BEING ABLE TO ASSASSIN ADC (Mundo reach 350 ad with titanic and overlord, insane + u have titanic proc and aa reset) I want to be durable, being able to start and engage with cc and being followed, and protect my team not being an assassin with sion in the bush with 250ad (thanks overlord)
@dariocrescinithorbjornsen7795 because the average league player is complained about tanks being boring so they buffed thier damage
Now tanks become OP how to fix it lower thier damage and increase thier disruption potential in team fight nope just make everything else deal damage FFS a talon has no business 1 shoting ornn
It would be fine if they forced 1 smurf on each side to negate the other. The problem is one team is full of actual low elo players and the other is filled with 70%+ wr players.
I do smurf sometimes and I also agree with u.
From my expirience its very unbalanced matchmaking tho.
I usually sit at a 80-90%WR when tryharding on my OTP in about 25-50 games on a fresh lvl 30.
And most (if not) every single game, espacially in the first 1-20 games, I get 4 hardstucks in my Team who belong to the elo in the MMR Iam in and the enemy team has atleast 1 DUO smurfers and its so disgusting to deal with. Espacially if they are jgl/mid or bot/supp.
Im mid btw.
But I dont wanna imagine how insane it is if youre a hardstuck with a full hardstuck team vs a full smurf team I also saw that sometimes and thats truly sad and truly a matchmaking failure by this disgusting company
yep 1/6 games i have a game-ending smurf
Me with my fellow bronzes calmly watch 2 smurfs fighting each other at minute 25. Whoever win decide the games
Hate to break it to you but we had smurf queue. And it was the worst shit ever.
doesnt help if one got the jg smurf and the otherone got the adc smurf
LIST OF THINGS THAT SHOULD BE REMOVED IN THE GAME :
1. VANGUARD
2. EMERALD TIER
3. TRUE SKILL SYSTEM (RESPONSIBLE FOR MATCH MAKING)
4. NEW CHAMPS ( IT DOESNT HELP THE GAME)
5. DOGSHIT BALANCING TEAM
Stopped playing back in Season 7 and never looked back.
stopped after adc items rework
We used to say season 5-6-7 were bad by we i mean season 2-4 players but everything past season 9 is pure garbage
@@theteamxxx3142Seasons 5-7 is peak league compared to what we got after that
@@gas7904 not for OG league players . We went from healthy metas with a lot of viable champions to season 5 tanks meta , class rework meta , censer meta etc etc so many garbage changes that were hated by the old and first league community . For me peak league is season 3 , 4 and 9 and i’ve being playing since season 2
@@theteamxxx3142 true season 9 was good
Thank you, this is exactly what “losers queue” is referring to btw it’s that the ranked matchmaking has decided which team is going to win. Whether it be engagement matchmaking or the system “testing” your skill at your rank. There is no excuse. Every game should be as balanced as possible. No matter what it should attempt to create a 50/50 game.
But it’s so obvious that the matchmaking does the exact opposite. It is designed to predetermine how often you should win and lose. Yes you can push your own rank up or down with skill, but every game in isolation is determined what the outcome should be.
I have a big issue with everyone wanting to FF over the smallest inconvenience. I love kayle, play way too much of her mid. Its hard to win before 20 minutes on her so i focus on the farming and getting level 6. The issue is that my top laner just dove a renekton at 50% hp and lost followed by my rengar ganking a vex and spam pinging the level 3 kayle to help him when hes way too deep.
The average IQ of league players have plummeted. I stopped playing ranked recently because it just feels frustrating to be low impact if i pick someone i enjoy, or struggle with a high impact pick because i dont play them that much and dont find their mechancis fun.
League just doesnt feel like its in a good state at the moment.
I think a lesser mentioned issue is the players being part of the problem. A lot of players just play how they want with no consideration for the strengths and weaknesses of other champs.
Does the game just have too much content that people just resign themself to playing casually?
What elo do you play in?
Games are decided way too quickly now yes. Mostly because people threw tantrums over the games lasting on average 30 minutes. Now it either lasts 15 minutes, or 45 minutes. What an improvement!
The key is u gotta dive with them. I won 50/50 fights like this
i think IQ is an issue as well. pretty sure it's the millions of migrants the west recieves a year, that *will* have an effect on games with high player counts
What's really crazy to me is that Riot really seems to expect enough players to play 500 Ranked games in a season to attain their "True Rank". I feel like I played a lot of League this past year and I didn't even play 400 *Normal* games. Maybe adding on other gamemodes like Arena or ARAM and occasional Ranked games I might have done 500 total games in an entire year. Even at 3 games a day every day that's an insane ask. It would take almost 7 months to reach 500 games. And getting trolls and smurfs and AFKs even just one in ten games would be enough to discourage most players.
Oh yeah that reminds me of that one comment I saw telling someone "I bet you didn't even play 400 TFT matches this split which is not much"
You instantly know who still goes to school and who not
Blind Pick being removed is also a huge reason why i quit... Because Quickplay sucksss... You are literally going in 50/50 whether or not you're getting the role you asked for... even then if you get it you still have to be concerned whether or not your team is even decent
And you can't change ward skin in quickplay as well.
@@poom323 Plus the queue times are awfully long when its not even worth it sometimes cause your team is straight up garbo and running it down while the enemy has a grandmaster and a challenger
league changed for me when they got rid of the tribunal.
i straight up miss pulling that up and going through my queue and reading their chats and whatnot.
but for real though, once they got rid of the really fun gamemodes (legend of the poro king, doombots, TWISTED TREELINE) i kinda just....dont 'really' enjoy playing. it all seems like a chore. everything has to be so serious (arena "ladder") and im just here to be stupid and do stupid things.
i quit cause fuck the riot anticheat im not installing that
Had a surprising amount of people comment this
@@Rewleague Yeah and I surprisingly climbed from Emerald to Master 300 lp since Vanguard dropped :)
It never prompted me an install did it install by itself? I haven't touched valorant since the vanguard wants me to give it root access. Is it given automatically on league client?
@@milojevicdavid9956 gratz on masters
@@Rewleague ty, but honestly 95% of the ppl who dont want to install vanguard are the people who cheated before it was released.
I leveled an account on EUNE to play with my friends, entered my first placement game in Solo queue and got an Alistar mid who was Iron 4 with 0 LP. Next game, I got a Draven smurf who abused bot lane and was 10/0 in the first 12 min. This is all in placements. Next few games went similarly, I ended up winning 2/5 and got placed in Bronze 4. Because of smurfs and trolls on my team. Needless to say, I won't be playing solo q anymore as it literally isn't about skill, but rather luck. The smurfs could've been on my team, but I pulled the short end of the stick.
Flex should be the only queue to exist, and even then there should be restrictions. Like at least 50k points on a champ before you can play it in ranked or something.
It's been so bad that I paid for coaching as an adc main because I can't carry gold games anymore. It's more like, the team won't let me. Without me even saying what I thought my rank was, my coach literally said that I play like an emerald player. Funny thing is, I was consistently an emerald adc and now I can't even carry gold games. The quality is so insanely low that it's like I'm bashing my head into the wall everytime I queue. Now I'm getting +15 - 33lp in gold. You have to be so much better than the enemy that it's insane. I mean, my goal is to reach masters one day, but it feels like I have to play like a masters player right now to consistently win games in GOLD.
I think league of legends is an amazing game, but no-one values the competitive experience of ranked anymore and it's becoming miserable. Even 2 splits ago it was so much better.
I wouldnt even bother with a coach atm. Games a mess, Adc is so OP like you say if you team allows you to carry but they just dont. Steal farm, dont peel and fight without you very frustrating. You mmr is dead dead 🤣🤣 sorry
I'm getting coached by an NA challenger and he is quite literally teaching me to play as if I was a smurf beacuse unfortunately just playing correctly isn't good enough
Skill floor is improving much faster than skill ceiling. New players won't stay for ranked because everyone is too good and older good players simply leaving at a slower rate because the game is boring or meta or rigged.
Play twitch
Gank mid
Gain elo
@@pickles4907 I was basically told the same. You can play towards fundamentals all you want, but if your team just constantly ints, the fundamentals aren't enough to carry the game
I think the mmr system is just fucked and should be removed altogether. Put players of a similar rank together and it'll work out far better than putting a 100% win rate draven smurf vs an emerald 49% wr caitlyn. That's just miserable
This is the moment when a simple system works better than a fancy one with a bunch of features. If a person has this rank, it means he deserves to have it, that’s the end. When the system tries to find the “real” rank, the end result is that someone is sitting on gold 3 with +10 / -30 elo and 70% win rate and diamond 2 with +30 / -10 and 30% win rate. The developers thought they were smarterx than us, but in the end they forgot to take off their pants before shitting in the toilet
This is what I’ve been saying for every single game out there. Just put people within the same rank together. Eventually the better players will climb and the weakerr players either stay where they are or fall. Why am I going up against a default draven level 32 account with a 2000% WR
@@AndrewPacketikov Brainrot take
I had 300 mmr 😮 and i refused to smurf.
@@rossinanterose829 so why the ranked in the first seasons was so much better better than now? ur brainrot
The smurfs are an rng element also. Do you get the tryhard going for 90% climb, or do you get the limit tester who does well, but throws on repeat to try 1v5, or the egoer who loses on purpose because they think you dont deserve to win and they have already proven themselves on main
By the way all of the modern issues with the ranked ladder stem from the removal of smurf queue and that time they "increased" lp gains. I was thinking about making a video on this but im afraid it would fall of deaf ears. Any time you talk about smurf q you get ppl who think they were in smurf queue when they were silver 3 with 60% win rate. It was actually a pretty nuanced system that worked insanely well for controlling game quality but they most likely removed it due to longer queue times.
Smurf q was incredible for the game but people cried about false positives so it got removed. Wish it came back
@Rewleague false positives were so insanely rare. The lol community on reddit has just done nothing beside make the game worse complaining abt things that are actually good.
Lots of the current trolls are elo inflated scripters who had to stop scripting. Their ego cant handle that theyre actuslly bad.
Would you rather keep having scripters, or deal with short term ladder chaos?
@@brandonstone2754 I doubt very hard, that this will be a short term, but i wish you good luck with that mindset.
@brandonstone2754 no idea what this has to do with my comment? But that's litterally not even true. Ban waves happen and probably 95% or more of the accounts that used to script are banned even without vanguard. So wtf are you talking abt?
This topic is really sad the deeper you go down it
S13 had more player growth on EUW than S14. S13 was the worst season out of them all so far (most stale season, nothing except jg got changed). So players are quitting for various reasons, but tbh it's the unbelievable amount of griefers and soft trolls that don't get punished. APC support farming mid waves and split pushing, jungler never rotating to any objective and afk full clearing all game. And the worst of all is griefing players that hold you hostage, cause the want you to afk for lp mitigation. Absolutely disgusting.
You got anywhere to get player numbers? Would be massively useful. And part 2 is all about soft inters 100% disgusting players
@@Rewleagueriot keeps all player numbers confidential. i assume it's because they know the game is declining and don't want the public to realize
This is the worst ranked experience ive ever had this season, it really feels like the majority of games are decided in matchmaking its terrible. I think maybe 1 in 20 games is a balanced matchup its so disgusting
Drafts are ok. Rankings are just sick. Interestingly, in Drafts the matches are more normal and the team can play something and help, while in Ranked... you are alone!
Them removing legend tenacity is just the final nail in the coffin
While TF top still a thing, Gragas remains untouched and took months for them to slightly nerf Skarner... Yeah I'm so done with this bullshit.
Ranked is just a mess. Like why is it even LEGAL to have 2-3 autofilled teammates against full main role team. Why negative WR lobbies exist? Its so obvious when the game tries to get you to 50% wr when you are in a winning streak and suddenly you have to play with 3 teammates that´ve lost last 6-8 games in a row. Flaming of course is punished but soft inting keeps being a thing. Meta champs are stronger than ever. WAAAYYY too much mobility. MAGE items being so fucking cheap and stat overloaded as per usual. CC out of control. Elo inflated players playing in lobbies that are 2x their rank. Wtf is this?
it's honestly how disgusting and inflated the ladder is, the amount of shit players that still somehow climb and inflate themselves because they can just "spam meta champs and climb" is so high, for me personally the biggest issues has to be elo inflation (at least for highelo) and the fact that griefers/inters just never get punished no matter what and also because the game's state took an insane turn for the worst over the last few seasons (s11-12 for me were the last "decent" seasons we had). I've also seen an insane amount of ppl that get "losers queue" and they seem to just not be able to get out of it or whatever else and they end up deciding to quit ranked all together. No idea what people in lower elos will say or what their reasoning might be as to quitting league or ranked or whatever it is, but it's probably smurfs for them which I can understand, playing vs people who are much higher rank than u can be frustrating.
never thought i'd see it but im on the verge of quitting due to smurfs. I'm a low silver player. 1/6 games i have a smurf top
the real problem is that you either smurf or you dont climb, getting out of silver or gold is impossible due to iron players that should have never left the vs Ai games clogging up the matchmaking while new accounts get boosted up to diamond and emerald
@@TheNyancat07 not really, yeah new accounts can get u higher but if ur a silver player you will still be in silver or max gold, new accounts start in silver and unless they have a good normal mmr they won't start in anything higher than gold 3 (which is the current maximum for new fresh accounts with good normal mmr) otherwise you'll end up back in silver. Riot already tried fixing those dame new accounts so instead of playing in emerald or play in ur very first game even as a new player, u now play in silver or gold
@@Nihildaddy66 yeah but lately accounts that were in plat or emerald dropped 5 to 6 leagues due to inting or trolling, there are videos around about it, so players just resort to the easy way, im not condoning it, its just a fact. its way easier to farm anew lvl 30 acc than to climb back from those ranks nowadays
@@TheNyancat07 yeah I do that myself, I'll give u an example. My main was 650 lp grandmaster last season 50 lp off challenger and now that same account is stuck in diamond. And when I start a new account I easily get it to master+ but once it reaches that same mmr and I get the same old shitty players it's the same old story. I'm pretty sure riot just want u to have 50% winrate at most on ur account and that's it.
Honestly, all they need to do to curbe smurfing is introduce bonus lp for winstreaks. They have these insane winrates, so they obviously streak often this would force players to their real elo faster, and shouldn't effect normal people much at all.
and buff eloboost
@miaoulove1479 who cares about elo boost. People pay to get to ranks they arent suppose to be in, ruin maybe 10 games total, and they tank to the rank they belong in, ruining their lp gains forever.
I agree that placement is all kinds of hell right now. I've been fighting for my life in Bronze 1 for that sweet 27 LP.
I know I'm not the best, but I think the system believes I should be around Silver 3, since that's the majority of matchups I get. Oddly, though, that usually includes those in silver who are Plat and Gold peakers on their climb up. After running into them, I currently sit around a 48% wr.
In my last 10 ranked matches I went 5-5, 3 of those losses at the hands of climbing plat peakers. The hope is still alive, though, as I've mentally refined my champ pool and playstyle for the future.
if u want to stop being the victim you can just be troll easy
This is actually 200iq, looking forward to trying it out!
@@Rewleague Literally the Tyler1 method.
genius
It does feel like the game is at it's lowest atm. To me personally, the balancing is insanely shit tier atm, modern champions (nearly all of them from the past 5 years) feel insanely disgusting to go up against (Aurora is gonna be no different). It's been a hot minute since Riot cared about giving a single fuck in regards to respecting their playerbase. Literally the single only good thing that has come out of League in these past years was Arena, SR feels miserable to play.
after 6 years i finally got silver. I feel like my play style hasn't changed much and my skill has stayed roughly the same
I stayed in bronze for 4 months thanks to endless trolls and leavers, won all my placement matches but my account is old. Suddenly went from bronze 5 to plat1 within 2 weeks. I must have had an immeasurable increase of skill all of a sudden.
The problem is queuing up with random people to play competitively. This formula just ends up as a disaster no matter the elo and game. As long as this option exists and people opt into it, they will end up having a terrible time. There is too much variance/inconsistency in a game where you people with random people. This is the heart of the problem and haven't seen anyone mention this. Overall, the game at it's core is a great, but I avoid modes where you queue up with random people. I'd much rather play solo, 1v1, or with a pre-made group, knowing that I'll enjoy the game with friends and play cooperatively. I guess it depends on how tolerant people are when they face these variances/inconsistencies.
I haven't quit but the chat is a ghost town, I've been high elo for years but NO ONE types now. its so boring af
man ive literally chatted with my team about enemy comp before (in teamchat) in the beginning of the game and got muted for the match cause apparently something i wrote was wrongspeak.. there was no flaming or anything we were just talking about lineup and riot comes and griefs me so that i cant communicate with my team anymore. No wonder nobody types anymore.
@@darealrulezbreaker9493 I had a chat restriction for saying "I am a fucking idiot mb" in chat.
@@mrmangbro6842 lmao yeahh i remember, i wrote "sry im retarded" once after a missplay... never to be seen again in the chat after that cause i got system muted😂
It’s become a place for teammates to flame each other.
Vanguard literally bricked my PC. Twice. I had the same artefacts on my screen as if GPU chip burned. All due to the fact that I use Dr.Web antivirus which is not compatible with Vanguard. Aaaaand 500$ Ahri skin, I thought for a long time that it was like some kind of joke, but turned out to be true. I peaked Diamond 3 as Sett main and a period between Emerald and Diamond was absolutely worst gaming experience I've had in years. Thinking about selling my account. I just play Dota 2 from time to time to feed my urges to play moba which it kinda does (unfortunately there is no Sett in Dota or anything similar) and doesnt make me addicted.
The game is SHIT from any perspective. Client doesn't work properly, game doesn't work properly, solo/duo ranked just doesn't work, balance is nonexistent, new champions are shit, new skins are shit, a lot of bugs are here for years unfixed. And they dont do anything - because, mostly, a lot of people still log in on daily basis. Everyone is just so addicted that there is no reason to do anything.
i reached my peak last split at emerald 2 after playing ranked for last 2-3 years and i’ve always been competitive but i’ve only done my placements this split ended at plat 1 at end of split and i can’t even be bothered to play ranked this season because i’m an ornn otp and it feels like even if i go 5/0/0 in lane before lane ends i have 0 impact in the result because the other team gets one fed carry and i might as well not play the game
welcome to top lane. Disgusting ngl.
With all due respect, why would you expect a different outcome?
I love playing tanjs but the reality is that a tank should not be able to 1v9, even if it's a fed toplaner. Unless you are the only giga fed one in a game, tanks are not designed as 1v9 carries...
An Ornn sure is good to play as a coordinated team that knows each other, but to gain enough lp to climb in soloq? You are making your life harder, and the truth is, that if you are waiting to be able to stomp every game as a tank top main, you are never going to come back to the game unless they fck up bad on a patch and you can play until it's reverted
The additions of Iron and Emerald were the worst implementation ever!
"If you play enough, you'll be the rank you deserve."
No.
Riot uses engagement match making.
So you win, play another.
Win, play another.
Lose, play another.
Lose, stop playing for 2 days to avoid the game thinking you'll play more when you lose.
You've, at best, broken even in LP.
Unless you get at least 3 wins before a 2 lose streak and stop for the day, you can't climb.
Splution to trolls and griefers? Remove that fucking surrender button. The first month will be ass as people throw their tantrums, but game quality in total will improve. That surrender button is the most DERANGED feature Riot ever added.
I was in favour of 15 mins ff as something like 90% of games that were were 4-1 to ff ended in a loss but I’ll admit i think its a mistake. 20 minute ff minimum again pls
I agree, so many times happen that you are ahead and your team just ff before you get the chance to carry.
that way people can hostage you for even longer wasting your time. Remove FF and you'll see a lot more people opening lanes for the enemy to end faster (if they don't feel like making it even worse by extending the game on purpose).
Don't underestimate how malicious people can be, they would enjoy torturing you even more if you can't get out.
@@GHKiwi Only toxic people with low mental talk about hostage. Main reason trash open lane and start int is to make you ff early.
Ludicrous savior mentality cope. Stop being a terrorist all because youre up 1k over your lane but your team is 10k behind. There's literally nothing wrong with letting people give up. I'm not sure why you think being held hostage by default will make people do anything but troll and int more
I'm sorry but no I'm cheater, and never scripted or what the hell ever, but my computer is new, like bought it 6 months ago, it's nothing too special, but it's a gaming computer. And now that vanguard is a thing, my computer actually freezes sometimes. Like everything on screen freezes for 3-15 seconds then I get to see what's actually happening afterwards. Can't click anything can't use abilities nothing, and this has NEVER happened in the past. It's absolutely crazy. No my memory is not almost full, and no, I have no virus on my computer, I have an anti virus scan. I've had ping issues in the past where it jumps up and it's hard to understand what's actually happening but actual computer freezes? Never in the history of 10 years of playing on different computers and shit has it froze my computer for a little bit. But it happens now, and it really makes me not want to play the game. It would be different if my computer was old, I could kinda understand, but for it to be new and this happening? What the hell is vanguard actually doing with my computer to have such an impact that it freezes my computer? It's unreal man.
Additionally mentioning the evil decision of making an Ahri skin 500 dollars, as an Ahri OTP I see why people quit League, especially if you have every skin except the 500 dollars skin because imagine someone spending 500 dollars for one change or pixels. And they absolutely dumped Fakers prestige by that decision. Leagues downfall is guaranteed and deserved. You can also expect Valorant to go down like that as well. When players only blame each other instead of the ones implementing these decisions it’s no wonder they continue with that. Either boycott or get milked over time. They don’t care about you as a player they never did. Hope this rings bells. Don’t consume their products if they treat you like that. Narcissists behave like that, if they don’t get called out or stopped they just continue. Boycott or get milked and don’t complain. They continuously will lie in your face and will manipulate the situation so over time you will forget about what they did. Just don’t let them do that with you and boycott this trash ceo‘s together
Tft is the only part of league I play now. All fun for the game died for me after mythic items were added.
Same man. What I love about TFT is that I don't have to worry about any of these issues! No teammates, only me baby!
It’s cuz they removed old fiddlesticks my beloved
Omg yes dude...I get so sad when people constantly bring up the Fiddle rework as a gold standard. Like...sure it's thematically great, but they REALLY changed what made the old one funny to play. 1million mastery on him pre rework by the way :(
God I miss the good ole days as the old fiddle support and spamming the shit out of e lol
Part of people quitting is the Vanguard software
I must say, as a jungler in plat/emerald. One of the most frustrating things is when i weak side a laner, he get’s ganked, and flames. Or when i try to communicate that we can fight for drake. I see mid and supp rotating for the enemy. And i’m stuck 1v3, then later getting blamed for not getting objectives.
A lot of league players have genuinely forgotten that league is a TEAM game. Yes, one play might make you win or turn the game around. But if you don’t play as a team, you will lose most games unless your opponents actively do the same.
The issue summarized: The relationships which most often end up impacting the result of a given match are very sharp.
Games aren’t decided by small gaps in skill, they’re decided by whatever lane had the most decisive winner and loser, so it’s difficult to climb rank if you’re just consistently outclassing your opponent in small ways. Going up 20 CS or leaving lane 1-0/2-0 doesn’t really mean much if there’s someone in the game that is 5-0 or worse.
Leaving another comment xD
The problem with banning smurfing is that Riot has to decide what smurfing is. To some players, Smurfing is simply ANY player who plays on another account. To other players it is only players who play on another account that is lower than their main. To other players it is playing on an account that is lower that is the same role / champion as your main etc.
We often hear of people wanting to practice new champions or a new role but they get too punished doing it on their main. For those players to practice they have 2 options, 1 play normal games which are almost always horrible quality, they just are. They always have been and always will be I think. Or 2, make a 2nd account that can be used for practicing without hurting their main.
In theory, making the 2nd account here wouldn't be that much of a problem because it's only 1 account and if they are actually playing a 2nd role or a 2nd champion, they will not be at the same level of their main anyway. A new account would give them the chance to find a comfortable level that matches what they are in this role. In theory as long as they never play their main champion or main role, this could / would / should / not be acceptable depending on your own thoughts.
For me, I personally have 3 accounts that are between mid platinum and low gold. On each account I play almost exclusively (auto fill is dumb) one role and so the differences between the accounts represent the differences between my individual skill on the 3 different roles. Someone playing at Gold 4 level in a Platinum 1 game would be reported, but that is the reality if I wanted to swap to jungle from top. My goal would be for all of my accounts to be equal in rating but hey it takes time to learn new champions and it takes time to learn new roles so for now I'll have to settle for my jungle and support gameplay being worse than my top lane.
Well , you're an exception but you can't expect everyone to be a "nice smurf"
IMO, the fix is extremely simple. It's already in RIOT's T&S that each player is expected to be playing on a single account. It's just the fact that RIOT doesn't punish anyone abusing this. On contrary, it's encouraged.
If riot wants to fix this, they will do it quite easily. Give an ultimatum to anyone that, from the date of "X" , everyone using multiple accounts will get banned on EVERY account. This fixes the issue.
A more elegant solution though would be I.D. / bank account account link (at least for ranked games). Ofc, you can borrow your mom's card and I.D but I'm pretty sure 98% would be eradicated with this simple change
#Release the 40 minute cut
Somewhat validating to here. I dropped the game but hopefully it improves for those who remain.
Ahahahh its so much yapping id be shocked if people made it through this one. Gonna sharpen part 2 up and make it shorter
@Rewleague a little meandering but hardly anything obtrusive. Unless these are tightly scripted, it seems inevitable that it'll trail to different places. The game is massive with lots of problems, one could make a weekly series addressing them all ahaha
Have to agree with how disgusting that example of a game you showed was. I was/am 70% win rate plat 1 and was excited to push through Emerald but I lose 2-3 matches in a row to a smurfing jungle with me playing as adc, it just took me aback - ...but especially my team mates reaction to it was even worse to see as they just completely gave up even though I'm far ahead in bot. Something about the games suddenly stopped my determination to climb higher even though I get hyped to sometimes - the stress trying to carry against almost always at least one smurf in enemy team with hopeless teammates is so mentally taxing.
I’m a singed main. One time I was playing against a Smurf riven in ranked in gold and I won’t lie, I got absolutely dumped. I think what’s worse is bad games happen, we’ve all fed a game or two unintentionally. I get flamed, say nothing in chat, and riot penalizes my perfect honor 5 and restricts my account for two weeks. I made a rebuttal saying it wasn’t intentional and they said “Nah, we looked into your game and based on the reports, there is no wrong doing on our end.” It’s like what the hell? I quit league after that and never looked back. I shouldn’t be penalized for one bad game.
The only games I lose are against 60%+ wr smurfs, and even when I lose those games I’m still mvp.
I miss older games where match making was based on nothing but your visual rank, kda and all other stats didn’t mean anything at all, and it made people care about the win so much more.
But basing it only on visual rank would make the smurfing problem so much worse, a bronze 4 players that always 0/5 and is awfull at the game could be paired against a bronze 4 smurf that has 90% winrate and hard carries every game
Yeah, why do I need to lose before I can win, even it didn't make me lose more than 2 lp per game but still wasting tons of time and exhaust me.
Vanguard , I left because of vanguard
Vanguard randomly crashes the game.. cant recnnect into the game
And then punishes for afk
Ive been trying to get validation so im glad for this video... ive played through 12 seasons of people saying the game is shit now and that its dying but never felt that until now.
Idk if its elo inflation or what, but every single game in emerald has one player BLATANTLY entirely outclassed by their opponent. Like, low diamond vs silver level outclass. The games solely decided on which team has the poor silver player getting clapped. Ive been lucky and usually that guy is on the other team...but its just not fun. At all.
This kind of video intro is made every single season I swear.
Once people discover the meta, the fun is over.
The last video on this topic was like therapy to me lol and gave me the encouragement to quit ranked.
Ahahhah cheers man this ones a bit of a ramble part 2 will be better
@@Rewleague nah it wasn't a ramble because you were spitting only facts.
What is quiting ranked going to do for you apart from ur normal or arena games being even more unbalanced in terms of skill difference. Ranked is ranked for a reason, it matches you with players similar with your skill. While yes sometimes 1 or 2 players are way better than the rest it evens out over 50+ games and at the end of the day it's still better matchmaking than any alternative.
Cheers!
@@mark5338 Normal will be much more balanced and overall enjoyable due to less trolls/crybabies griefers etc. Also smurfs aren't reeally a thing in norms. The game shouldn't match you in 5 stacks maybe an occasional 4 stack but even than it will actively match the enemy the same. People don't care as much in norms but thats a double-edged sword because players play better when under no stress of losing gamer points, but the inverse can also happen.
LMAO i got to Gold and I'm like why does feel unfulfilling like just to go through Gold feels like it'll be a hassle....not interested not sure when ill play ranked again for this season.
The rank isnt worth the miserable experience atm.
@@Rewleague like the game is such a good game hence why it's mostly on top of twitch viewership apart from just chatting like as you said the system in place, the smurfs the actual bad players, toxic players like might as well go walk on hot pavement for 20mins lol
Performance based matchmaking is the solution. We used to have this back in 2008 in DotA 1. You would be matched with other players based on your daily performance. Nobody queued for ranking up, everybody played to play a good game and it was pretty balanced. Anybody could perform incredible sometimes and get matched with very good players.
I remember the game during beta testing. It was the most fun experience I’ve ever had playing a video game. No one cared that we didn’t have a ranking ladder. Or that there was only like 35 champions. The game was just fun to play. We would que up over and over for 8 hours a night using Skype for callouts. Jungle wasn’t a roll and no items had unique effects. It was beautiful!
People say this literally every season and the game never dies. It’s all in your heads. Your mindset is stopping your success not the game. Instead of being mad when you lose just focus on improving. Take a loss as an opportunity to learn from mistakes. It’s the only way. I’ve been playing this game for 8 years and only ever reached plat. Last split I decided to really focus on improving and only worrying about what’s in my control. I finished that split emerald 1. This split I just hit diamond 3. Funny how going from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset gets you results. The only reason league is perceived as so toxic is because it has the most whiny player base that refuses to take any responsibility for the impact they have in all their games. Everyone just loves to blame their teammates. Yes there are unwinnable games. Just remember that even if you are a challenger level player you will still lose games in emerald. You should not expect that you can win every game. What you shoot for is a 55-60% win rate by taking consistent plays and saying no to plays that you know don’t work. You don’t hyper focus on the unwinnable games and let them destroy your mental. Just point out mistakes you made and move onto the next one. That’s all you can do and until you accept that you’re never going to make progress.
Whenever I get pissed at League. I just simply boot up Warframe and chill.
How's warframe doing? I haven't played since Mesa prime was release
@@GoredrinkerRS Better than ever bro. Right now there is one of the most profitable events I have ever seen.
I think you’ve gotten a lot of these calculations wrong. If you spend any time looking at smurfs with insane winrates, you’ll find they play champions like Gwen, Tryndamere, Jax, Rengar or solo carry Champions that are feast or famine. They start hard dropping in winrate when they reach higher elo. If you play champions like Taliyah, Ornn, Udyr etc, they’re considered weakside stabilisers and even if you play them well in low elo, you’re going to find it hard to climb with above 60% winrate as they’re team reliant. Where they really shine is in high elo where you essentially maintain that same winrate by playing consistently with small wins in lane and good teamfights. Midbeast doesn’t generally play hard carry champions, you can also look at Makkro, where he maintained 55-63% winrate in his Korea climb to challenger on Ornn. Really big misconception many people have on winrates.
True but midbeast in gold and plat should be stomping on taliyah. Agreed an ornn is going to be lower than a gwen though theres definitely a reason boosters all play the same champs
i think the issue is that the system takes way too long to pick up if a player is smurfing or not, a human can pick that up right away using stuff like porofessor, however the system still needs hundreds of games for some reason, in my opinion the system shouldnt just determine skill based on win or loss, performance also plays a significant role. this is how the system should work: determine a players skill level in about 10 games, and then he should skip divisions until he gets to the rank based on performance, not get like 38 lp but in return face other smurfs to make each smurf take 100 games+ to get to their true rank. the reason midbeast has a low winrate is because even if you are smurfing, bad matchmaking will get you and make your climb take as long as possible, doesnt matter if you are challenger, the only way to get these 90%+ winrates is if you play duo queue, thats the only way to outmatch the horrible matchmaking, you basically need 2 challengers smurfing together in emerald to get avove 90% winrate. thats why draven and gwen have a higher winrate than midbeast btw, because they are pretty much cheating and he isnt, he would probably still 1v1 both of them, duo is just that unbalanced. also the reverse is also true, if someone plays their first 5 placements games, being a new player pretty much iron4 skill level somehow being placed in plat 4 going 0/5 with horrible performances, that player should drop down a lot faster instead of running down like 50 plat and gold games he should be placed in iron4 right away.
yeah a new player starting in silver and above doesn't make any sense
Yeah league just isn't fun anymore, i'm almost 60% wr emerald 3, could easily climb to diamond in like a week of playing constantly but i just quit the game because it's pure dissapointment EVERY single match and every single day logging in to this game, people that should get banned still infesting your lobbies, people just giving up after 5 minutes of laning so then you have to be extra tryhard just to barely win the game which mentally exhausts you, no new changes to the game, SHIT microtransactions like the passes make you don't even want to spend money on the game or should i say MACROtransactions *cough cough ahri bundle cough cough*.Oh and don't even make me mention all the new skins they're releasing in the shop like the infernal and faerie court ones where they blatantly reuse assets and put no passion into the skins,making them look like they released 15 years ago. League team is just extremely lazy atp, it's a billion dollar company and they spend 2+ years making a fucking vgu, just for referrence Smite which is a WAY smaller MOBA and company compared to league like 20x smaller was at a point making 3 vgu's A YEAR... They have no excuse, it's disgusting that i even have to play with a 5 polygon model like zilean,gragas,malphite etc with 3 animations in one of the MOST POPULAR games on the entire PLANET. They pat themselves on the back when they make a new gamemode every 5 years only to remove it in 3 months. This game is just disgusting and i can't believe im saying this but moving to Fortnite out of all games has been a breath of fresh air, they're releasing content bi-weekly, like actual content, guns,npcs,events,collabs you name it and it's probably in Fortnite. Epic isn't the greatest company ever, they make alot of mistakes and fuck-ups but compared to riot??? night and day. And it's actually surprising the amount of cosmetics you get for completely free, you could be playing without spending a penny for an entire year and after that you're gonna actually have a stacked locker, its crazy, compared to League where after a year you can maybe have what? 10 skins which 8 of them were made in 2009 and are basically chromas, 3 ward skins and 15 icons. Sorry for the rant but i just had to get it off my chest.
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Their music is nice tho
Exactly the problem is even exaggerated if a jungler is trolling or does not know what to do you are unable to play as a squishy in low elo. Damage is so high that if you have a bruiser or assassin fed in the enemy team you a forced to lose even if you play really good at your elo. It is just coinflip atm until assassins and jungle role is nerfed. Then you can also nerf down adc as well again.
Lots of the current trolls are elo inflated scripters who had to stop scripting. Their ego cant handle that theyre actuslly bad.
Would you rather keep having scripters, or deal with short term ladder chaos?
again low elo dude complaining about assassins role when this role in it's worst for 2-3 season (no, 1-2 exceptions that actually aren't really assassins won't make whole role justified to nerf), and not complaining about current state of game/balance-dps, with ADC being highest ever overbuffed
@@kantror100 if assassins are so bad why are they constantly picked in pro play? Why are even phreak and august saying THEY are the problem and the reason for all the dramatic changes? Yes assassins are the problem and the reason every champion has to oneshot because otherwise you dont get to play the game. Assassins can dodge every skillshot with ease and kill even bruisers in a blink of an eye. And Riot admitted they love that because it makes the game interesting and keeps league alive because of the outplay tiktoks.
@@amilo5 yeah Phreak problems ;) tell me more,
which one of those assassin was played in LCK/LPL lately: Ekko, Evelyn, Daiana, Fizz, Kassadin, Katarina, Akshan, Nocturne, Pyke, Qiyana, Shaco, Talon ;)
can't wait to see when last time August said something about those being overbuffed :)
@@kantror100 He said something about: Akali, Elise, LeBlanc, RekSai, Lee Sin and infact PYKE. All played in proplay. He then proceeded to talk about q spam on Zed and why Zed is the one kept at 46-48% winrate to state an example of what ALL assassins should be like in their winrate.
I remember someone saying there is 40% of games you lose no Mather what you do, 40% you win no Mather what you do and only 20% that are decided by your own performance. This includes prettymuch all of the mentioned points in the video. As in your games will be miserable, some will be for your enemies and if you play long enough you climb … eventually
Honestly the biggest problem is the players. One bad play and at least one player starts spam pinging, begging to ff, flames, runs it down if u talk back, etc. One of these things happens in EVERY SINGLE GAME i play. People are so upset when they are losing, they can’t think straight and cant play properly. Then when they bring down their teammates, it’s quite often gg and the game becomes miserable where queuing up was the biggest mistake of the day. Im new to ranked. I have played only normals for the past 2 years but decided to play ranked to see where i would place. After doing so i quit league and feel much better - that’s how bad the community is. Normals aren’t fun for me anymore - also i found the quality of normals matches to be much better than most of my ranked, which supports my belief.
Lowelo cope tbh
Personal reason was vanguard. I trust nothing and no one besides myself having that deep of access on my PC.
It is like this in unranked, too. I am against people farming for level 30 who have literally admitted to being like diamond smurfs after going 20/0 in 10 minutes... I also constantly either get matched against people in like silver and gold when I am definitely not that good. I have a 15% winrate in my last 20 games, and in every one of them, my team has been an average of 700 levels lower than the enemy team. Like what? Why?
If I'm being perfectly honest, I don't usually hit my rank because I remember ranked is a thing two weeks before the end of the season, put it off a little more, and by the end of the season I've played like twenty games lol. Unfortunately this results in a lot of weirdness like me being 'silver 4' in my placements, and playing against platinums, doing just fine and even carrying. Like it puts me where I should be eventually, but it never seems like other people are enjoying it.
I'm also now fairly convinced that people just can't derank from Emerald, the people I see in that rank are... Questionable.
Too many people have their hands in the cookie jar to start banning smurf accounts as it is a huge factor in terms of revenue being made in this game. I wouldn't even be surprised if Rioters were in on this as well. It's just too easy to make money off of.
But yes, this is a big factor as to why I quit league myself. I've been screaming this for years on Reddit then started getting my posts removed with no reason given.
I quit because of vanguard, but yes prior to that rank was already getting pretty bad
As someone who persistently can hit diamond solo, the amount of games has tripled to hit my "peak" and then when I get diamond, somehow the gameply quality is really bad and i'll get d3, then somehow get peopel who play worse than emerald 2-1, and solo-lose the game either opn a bought account, afk, ego "take this loss", and then not get banned for it. The problem is tribunal really needs to come back, not chat restricting everyone who is trying to coordinate or actually provide constructive criticism that is valid.
I was emerald, played a shit load with the -50 for deranking. Had a bad losung streak and now im in silver 1. I know i can get back to emerald but i dont want to play 300 games to get there with all the trolls and idiots ill be getting.
I think we can agree, Riot needs to invest in better systems of recognition of smurf play. By tracking things like: Actions per minute, Camera movement, Speed of navigating shop/buying items, Vision control, Backing timers, Skillshots hit, Damage, K/D/A, etc.
Those factors can be added together and compared to average players of the same rank. I don't think smurfing can't be removed, so get smurfs facing diamond/master players quicker!
This focus on „Smurfs“ is so subjective. I’m chilling on my main in emerald and from gold up until there I have not seen a significant enough amount of Smurfs to even remember them. The people that I see trolling are those that are fine with plat or emerald (maybe because they „peaked“ after the introduction of emerald) and just never adapt to the fed player on the team or troll them because they think it’s a smurf… the ego in this game is disgusting from everyone after gold and it’s ruining way more than any so called smurf I ever saw.
I don't know why some people are afraid of stating losers queue is real.
Here's my story, I didn't play for a year, played a good chunk of normals with friends and got back into league, I was plat for multiple seasons (before the addition of emerald). I got placed in Silver4, where I clearly don't belong, I get to plat 2 in errr, 50 games? 68% winrate, then suddenly losers queue hits, my next 60-70 games almost half my games I am 4v5, not cuz of a bad teammates, cuz of an actual afk, or a troll, or a 0-13-0 players at 15 mins running it down. I got demoted all the way down to SILVER 3.
Now I'm finally out of losers queue, I made it to gold 2 again, I have an 80% winrate my last 25 games, and I'm hard carrying almost all of them because I'm playing against people that are literally 2-3 divisions below my actual skill level.
It makes no sense, I went from my bottom of the barrel below 50% winrate, 100 wins 104 losses to 130 wins 109 losses. And it's not like my teams are great either, I'm just no longer getting people that legit run it down or go afk after 5 mins.
People have to understand, looking in, from the outside, after quitting like 10 years ago, League looks fucking miserable. What would a new player think? They just see people screeching about team mates, smurfs, inting, more screeching about items and champs being completely unbalanced to the point top lane has a ranged adc at rank 1.
Why would anybody want to subject themselves to that lmao
I had a friend of mine who is Diamond play on my Silver account for 2 weeks while I was gone on vacation. He played something like 50 games. I went from silver 1 to bronze 2. And if you look at his score, he wasnt the problem for 90% of the games. His KDA was 3-5kda. A few of his games he lost lane, but the average games he lost, which was a 40% win rate, wasnt his fault.
He told me it was amazingly hard, and toxic.
The other problem is even if you have a 55% win rate, you still lose LP. A win gives you 23lp. A loss takes 27lp. So if you have a 54% win rate, 100 games played 54/46, you break even in LP. If you have a 53% win rate, you lose 50lp.
I have a 55% win rate, and i am hard stuck.
Its not gEt GoOd, its luck at this point. Your video is correct. The times ive been in a bronze 1 elo, and vs a gold 1, is mind blowing. The times ive been in Silver1 and playing against emerald people, is staggering.
On the flip side you get an autofilled literally silver bordered jungler in your emerald promos after you get counter picked top because shop didn’t want to give last pick. Ask me how I know.
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There is another fundamental issue with league... In most cases, in order to "have fun", you have to make sure someone else *doesnt*. With the gold and power creep, overwhelming champion design of late, and the proliferation of the "ff go next" mental... "climb"? Mate it's hard to find the motivation to even play for me.
and that is why i only play if im bored or on drugs to be honest, cause holy shit finally someone actually gets it and releases it, as i always say "the higher u get the dumber they are" since the queue is so fucked or too many smurfs like in csgo
I don't know if pre-level 30 games would affect your match-making, but in my main account, I'm in Iron II, in my other account, I frequently paired with Platinum and Emerald players, sometimes even low Diamonds. Almost never I'm against or I have in my team someone lower than gold.
This is because I just played like 160 rankeds in 2022, when I was truly awful, and then in the last two years very few ranked games. Almost only ARAM and normal games. And as I don't play more than, like 10 games per season split, this ended up happening
If they just added voice chat it would solve 60% of the problem. If you could just communicate minimally with your team, do setups, clean vision, call out the trolls and ask them politely to pay attention… game changer.
Actually, as someone who creates 20 accounts a season and climb to diamond regularly , I can confirm that this huge diff team only happens in emerald, I got so many times against challenger players with new accounts, challenger boosters etc
azzapp has a crazy good poker analogy about trolling/inters.
that analogy proposes that lol is like poker where the teammates are the cards you are dealt.
the best poker players dont get to the world championship every year because they get crazy good cards every time. they are crazy skilled and knowledgeable about poker to the point where it doesnt matter if they have really bad or good cards they'll come out on top 55% of the time which is enough to get to the pro leagues.
the same goes for lol. it doesnt matter how bad your teammates are, all that matters is how good you are over 100-1000 games, because trolls,smurfs and inters will make a negligible impact across those 100-1000 games because for as many smurfs on enemy team there will be one on the enemy, for every troll on your team there is one on the enemy team. youll most likely win the same amount of games due to trolls on enemy team as you will lose to trolls on your team, same goes for smurfs,inters and all sorts of teammates, its all about the 20 or so % of games you DO have an impact on, because those games will determine if you have a 40% winrate or a 60% winrate going from 40% auto lose and auto win. but you dont know which games are auto win or lose, so you should try your best every game.
and the fix for trolls/inters or tilters the solution is that high level streamers should adopt the azzapp mentality, so the people watching are seeing them not give up, so they wont give up in their respective matches. but its also on the individual players to adopt that mentality
But does that make for a fun game lol
What young league streamers do we have lol this an old mans game now
Since Vanguard came out I got placed in iron after 1 win for some reason even though I was gold the previous season, I have since climbed up to emerald 2 with over 65% winrate, feels like the easiest I have ever climbed too, so even if there is a bunch of smurfs they are nowhere near as bad as the hackers we no longer have
tbh this is probbably my favorite channel to listen to in background since 2017, keep it up!
Whos the channel from 2017 and cheers man
Over the years I spent a lot of money on this game. I stopped playing because I’m scared of chatting or even ping communicating with my team. I am so scared of getting banned because of their harsh treatment of “bad communication” or whatever.
Also regarding the ranking matchmaking and the community’s perception of the ladder. If Masters is bad idk what to say even Diamond IV players, by metrics of statistics across all logged ranked players, are within top 5% of the ranked players in the world. A Gold player meeting a Diamond player is beyond busted. Masters shouldn’t even meet anything below Diamond.
I had this guy in one of my plat/emerald games. When i played against him he was 25 wins 1 loss, 94% win rate. This dude is a giga smurf boosting a Nami in ranked. He must have bought the account with low MMR because when i played against him he was only gold with a 94% win rate 26 games.