"That's not real hard sci-fi."
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- That awkward feeling when you accidently invent a new Grand Unified Theory of physics for the sole purpose of making your novel more scientifically accurate. #justwriterthings am I right?
Also, to be clear, I mean no disrespect to hard sci-fi fans. I actually love hard sci-fi, and these characters are all straw men. (If you look closely, you can see the hay poking out from under their sleeves.)
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_The Martian_ qualifies as genuine science fiction, as it takes place in a bizarre alternate reality in which NASA is funded.
so fucking true
government policy fiction lol
NASA's budget is 3.5x more than SpaceX's
@@alquinn8576 When NASA sends an electric car to Mars, it gets there.
@@alquinn8576 Who pays SpaceX?
The whole idea with private contractors is to save money. But I have difficulty understanding exactly how. NASA argues that all the failed launches aren't a problem because they are still cheaper than NASA's programs of old. The reason they are failing is the lack of know-how. They don't have the collected know-how of NASA. The cost of these cheaper launches still add up.
Turns out that the hardest scifi was fantasy all along
Hard fantasy exists. Really, hardness is an attribute of speculative fiction in general. As long as you have good worldbuilding and consistent rules for how the world works, it doesn't matter whether you call those rules "physics" or "magic".
@@DanielLCarrierme and the boys on our way to break our teeth on crunchy magic systems.
But Fantasy and Sci Fi are the same genre just split into different categories to sell more books
If you mean The Elder Scrolls, yes.
@@ShinCharaIf you mean the Souls franchise, yes.
@@mistuh69420They are not the same genre. The defining difference is that one is the genre in which anything goes, while the other is based on scientific theory, the consequences of which merely _seem_ fantastic. They used to be grouped together because booksellers couldn't tell the difference. With robots, spaceships, computer networks, and in-vitro fertilisation having become mundane reality, the difference is now obvious in retrospect. (And fantasy sells better. Look at Harry Potter for example. There is a saying that every equation in a book halves its sales, which seems to be supported by hard science text books not selling as well as romance novels, but it is certainly not true for sci fi.)
Solution, write a fantasy novel with hard magic about realistic space exploration. Boom. Hard sci fi.
Mistborn era 4
@Jack Barlow lmao I came here to write this exact post. Currently rereading stormlight and excited to get back to mistborn
@@carterwalters5915 Era 2 is excellent. There are tons of cheeky nods to Era 1, but nothing that seems out of place for the worldbuilding
So basically... Cosmere
@@Astropuppers Yes, but also somewhat a story I'm currently writing.
Lol, when you took out the QT textbook, I thought "he should've used string theory, then it would actually be SF" and then you made that joke =D
I've never seen such a disagreeable crowd become friends so fast.
the next day in the news: quantum mechanics and newtonian dynamics have just been unified by three up and coming novelists who just wanted a better framework for their new fantasy novel "einstein was wrong"
I've had hard sci-fi described to me as being "any story in which technical minutiae is given greater importance than anything else."
wow, that sounds like the most boring, useless, waste of writing i have ever heard. no wonder only the most pretentious assholes enjoy it!
By that logic Harry Potter is Hard Sci fi since the hero wins only because the poorly designed magic system by the sad transphobe work like NFT trading for the mcguffin.
@@stm7810 Harry Potter isn't even close to what I'm describing, lol. For one, hard sci-fi has to be sci-fi in the first place. More importantly, though, basically no focus is given to the inner workings of magic in Harry Potter. We're told what spells do and how they're cast, but we aren't given any details beyond that. Harry Potter is pretty much the opposite of a hard magic system, we have the details relevant to the plot, and nothing else.
@@74oshua Sorry forgot to add at the end, about how that description without context could technically apply, the joke was that it breaks its own rules at many points, and lacks details, but that 1 anti climax sounds like an NFT bro ranting about his totally not a scam.
thanks for the response.
I want the reverse of this:
“YOU CALL THAT SOFT SCI-FI?!? GOOD SIR THEY EXPLAIN HOW THEIR LIGHT SPEED TRAVEL WORKS FOR A WHOLE PARAGRAPH, IT DOESN’T DESERVE SUCH A TITLE! I PREFER THE SCREEN PLAY FOR THE JETSONS. “
“WHAT A POOR EXAMPLE OF THE GENRE IF YOU WANT SOME TRUE SOFT SCI-FI YOU SHOULD READ THIS:”
“…. this is just The Hobbit”
Impressive. Very nice. Let’s see Paul Anderson’s hard sci-fi novel.
The fantasy version of this is :
You **HAVE** to at MINIMUM simulate the entire Solar sytem. Tectonic plates, Movement and the geological makeup of the rock which is mentioned in chapter 2383 of the main book Chapter 4, Appendix 87, Footnote 987. The evolution of all its major creatures; from bacteria, to sentient life. The cultural, technological, and linguistic growth of said sentient life. Oh, and dont forget the magic system which, to undestand, requires reading the 437 page seperate book, down to every footnote, and the footnotes in said footnote.
If your plate tectonics isn't plausible, are you even a fantasy writer? (Don't tell Tolkien I said that.)
The string theory joke was brilliant, in so many dimensions.
give it 10 years that quantum physics textbook will probably count as sci-fi lol
As soon as they started in on the difference between science and science-fiction, my first thought was "if this doesnt lead into a joke about string theory I'm going to be deeply disappointed"
Just let me enjoy space, I don’t wanna fight
The hardest sci-fi is gooning because its always on the edge
“as I perceive mine to be”
Hard Scifi starts with Jackson's electrodynamics
“Orthogonal” lol. That’s great.
I mean I'm probably the only one who gets triggered by magic systems being mentioned as part of sci-fi when they are a core part of the fantasy genre, but... It might be pedantic, but the distinction between sci-fi, fantasy, magical realism, and sci-fi with fantasy elements is one thing I definitely will gladly defend.
its only hard sci-fi if its cool and also ruthlessly depressing
Star Trek is unrealistic because people are good
Yup, pretty much will vary from person to person, but when you have a guy who calls Star trek "realistic" and another that plays children of a dead earth 3 hours a day in the same room hilarity is bound to ensue.
The most unrealistic part is that these guys met at the park. outside.
I want to read a ragingly hard sci-fi novel.
"It's not hard sci-fi unless they're mocking the idea of FTL, depict space travel as boring, inconvenient, and stupid, and everyone as mean and awful"
Unless you can derive the Sarumpaet rules from basic category theoretic axioms afterwards you only read a little space opera
HA, I love that the discussion ends with realizing that our incomplete understanding of physics means it's not completely a "hard" science! Excellent funny, well played.
"All of the observables are multidimensional characters" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant!
Many people who wants Hard Science-Fiction, focus more on the "science" part than the "fiction" one
For some reason I sense that this is kinda roasting the Three Body Problem book series.
Funnily enough, that series did kind of inspire this video, but in the opposite way. I'm actually a big fan of those books, and I sometimes see people dissing them because they "pretend" to be hard sci-fi while not being, in fact, "hard" enough. I tend to feel that such criticisms miss the point of the books (although I understand that they're still not for everyone.)
@Mank Hobley Currently about 3/4 through Deaths End.....and I agree with you assessment.
Three Body Problem is about as hard as large scale sci fi can be. It uses relativity as a storytelling tool to describe how civilizations interact with each other and then finds ways to violate it. A civilization becomes visible when they violate relativity.
It doesn't say anything about its possibility other than the fact it might be. It suggests that physics itself can be used as a weapon and that doing so is a terrifying thing (which it is) and because of that, any civilization mastering such a technique would attempt to destroy any other civilization able to do so.
It's a pretty compelling storytelling concept. The actual physics are fantastical.
Yep, those moment where I realize that I just got into a stupid nerd fight.
In Egan's defense, Unstable Orbits in the Space ofYou know what, just let me fucking have this.
Seeing your thumbnail in recommendation, I thought you're Maximilian Dood and the video is 12+ years old.
Gonna write a hard sci-fi novel for physics and chemistry PhDs, but it's just undergraduate level statistics in social sciences.
Most physics text books contain hypothetical problems as examples, thereby qualifying them as science fiction.
I have to take away points for no one correcting him by saying "it's hard SF not hard sci-fi!"
2:04 the string theory joke is amazing.
Well,Tau Zero has an interstellar ramjet that reaches ULTRArelativistic speeds when the actual performance would be worse than a “conventional" fusion rocket. This was not known at the time though so one shouldn't say it's soft i guess,but at the end what matters is a good and believable story.
Alright recommendation time, mind you I have already read Egan, Robert forward, cixin lui...so bring it on, giv me something that digs down my grad student out....
and those nerds figured out the god equation and rewrote the very nature of reality
Ironically enough, some of tge best hard sci-fi I've read was from a series of erotic sci-fi novels.
Came into the video prepared to Greg Egan the OP, left disappointed and satisfied because Egan was included.
Marooned in real-time, what a hell of a concept and metaphorically extremely relevant
Hard sci fi is just sci fi without FTL
Imma level with you, I didn't really realize "hard sci-fi" was a generally accepted descriptor for a class of books. I've just been describing Ringworld as "hard sci-fi" simply because it was hard for me to understand and some of the concepts were more intensive than your standard Star Wars. Though I guess I probably picked that specific phrasing up somewhere along the way.
Hard scifi is more about extrapolating from what we think we know, either the future of science/tech we have or might reasonably develop. Ringworld is harder than starwars but not by much in the overall scale.
The only hard sci fi is an unwritten sci fi
All this time I thought Sci-Fi stood for"Sci Fidelity"
Excellent video!
I'm sure if you zoom the camera down you'd see each and every one of them wearing a kilt!
(No true Scotsman fallacy for the people who can't comprehend hard sci-phi)
I suck at physics maybe i will try.
I can't be the only one who saw the String Theory pun from a mile away, right? Still laughed though, just as much as a fictional character with an IQ as high as I perceive mine to be would have.
A string theory textbook IS science fiction! I never would've come up with that banger! 😂
I will stick with Skylark of Space!
So acording to the film "Inne pieśni" ["Other songs"] by Jacek Dukaj is the hard sci-fi they are looking for. (Althu the science was borrowed from Aristotle) :)
This skit was amazing! 💜
This is why I don't read sci fi. People think I'm into science and it's all downhill from there
The Messiah is a good textbook though.
Nerd hobbies and gatekeeping, name a better combo
To be honest I read The Martian before watching the film because film director Ridley Scott was going to space again. I have not read the book again, and will not do, not worth my time or intellect.
lmaoo i love this video!! it really is annoying when those so called real fans are always such a bother like just let everyone enjoy for f's sake
HA! Too perfect, I am glad to say I only act like this when people call Star Trek "hard" sci fi.... I confess you've got me there. But really, how daft do people have to be to think 'Trek is HARD?!?!
My favorite sci fi are retracted scientific papers
real and true
This got me lol
*Irreproducible Results* was a great magazine. I dunno if they still publish.
We love cold fusion
Terrance Howard
you aren't reading hard sci-fi unless the book itself is rated 10 on the mohs hardness scale
I write these words in Steel, for anything not set in metal cannot be hard sci-fi
This comment is a 10/10. A real diamond in the rough, you could say.
that's why I'm into ductile sci fi
@@The_Blazelighterthis is perfect
The what scale
It's simple: hard scifi is when space travel is massively inconvenient, yet everyone is doing it.
Sleeper ships here I come! I love when space travel takes so long that any characters we would relate to would be long dead before the protagonist reaches anywhere.
Warhammer ??
@@hectorrodriguezgonzalez8938Warhammer is Science Fantasy
@@talosine2963 yes I know, but it fits the description , that's the joke
@@AAhmou
Sleeper ships are for meat bags. The most relatable characters are incomprehensible intelligences who transmit themselves with lasers.
it isn’t “hard sci fi” unless it comes from the hard region of france, otherwise it’s simply “sparkling sci fi”
*Sparkling Fiction
Sparkling Sci-Fi at least has to be from a bordering region.
"Uhmm, actchuall-ay, Hard is in austria, at the shore of lake Constance. Clearly you are not into science fiction, this is basic knowledge, you normie." *sniffs back snot*
And only as long as it's in hard cover, not paperback, or, Aristotle Forbid, E-book!
hard region of Pennius
Was this s Wayne world reference?
If your sci-fi remains hard for more than 4 hours, consult a space opera novelist.
😂😂😂
This is literally good advice.
"I'm incapable of relating to a character unless their IQ is at least as high as I perceive mine to be".
Yes, that accurately sums the type of pretentious people this video is satirizing
Or Sheldon Cooper
Into Darkness, Reasons to Be Cheerful, and Wang's Carpets are all ridiculously good Egan stories and I really don't care what anyone thinks of me for trying to get that out there. I put a million dollars on that man.
I always found that mindset hilarious because the character I relate to the most in all of fiction is Eren Jaeger, and he's a hot-headed, emotionally immature teenager who's own recklessness gets others killed. (Hell the other main characters even say he's that last person they would have wanted to have the powers he has, and the only value he has is in that power lol).
Well i mean there's a difference between how you define words vs what you enjoy in a novel. For example, if I DID enjoy sci-fi, although to be honest I'm not a fan of sci-fi or fantasy when it comes to novels, prefer that stuff in my dnd and video games, but i mean i used to read eragon and stuff years back>
ANYWAYS lets say i did want a "Hard sci-fi" recommendation and someone comes at me with Martian.
I'm gonna feel like they have wasted a huge amount of my time with that recommendation and im gonna thoroughly annoyed like, that's not what i wanted
Yknow? Is that so pretentious to like, have a preference and desire for other people to understand what that preference means?
I just find people recommend me things A LOT and I don't like it, I don't like it at all.
The only character I relate to is the joker, his IQ(Insanity Quotient) is almost as high as mine.
Lol the string theory joke, that's beautiful
Is the joke that string theory is fiction since it's all theoretical ? If not kindly explain the joke to this pleb 😅
@@neofluxmachina
It's more that String Theory has been losing favor among the scientific community because it's all wrong... I guess. Apparently it's more fiction than actual physics.
Don't quote me on it. I've seen a lot of people way smarter than me calling for the death of String Theory.
@@neofluxmachina Basically string theory isn't even actually scientific. It's purely hypothetical and nothing else. Not only that but it's a hypothesis that, while cool, is generally believed to basically just be a bunch of scientific sounding ideas that make no sense in reality.
Essentially, it's like a sci fi explanation for the theory of everything, at least right now. Because as it is, it makes really good lore for a fictional world, but an actual scientific theory? Not so much.
My favorite takedown of string theory is the book "Not Even Wrong". The oversimplified point of the book is that string theory isn't testable so therefore it is "Not Even Wrong"
As someone who spent way too long researching string theory for a sci fi novel only to simultaneously lose faith in both the fiction premise and the irl theory, I felt that in my S O U L.
“So how does the warp drive work?”
“Quite well, thank you.”
"What does the engine run on?"
"Very efficiently, indeed."
The correct answer
Been some time since I laughed this hard
Expanse reader?
"How does the Epstein drive work?"
"Very well. Efficiently."
-Q&A at the back of my copy of Leviathan Wakes.
Hardest sci fi possible is just writing what you think you’ll be doing in your research lab next week
That's Science in the Capital.
That’s science non-fiction at that point.
@@saladv6069it's non-fiction once you do it
That's actually just a schedule, also known as a lie.
@@lloydgushcertainly a science-fiction
I just want authors not to abuse FTL, not ignore energy and AI while making the characters behave plausibly for whatever world they are in.
Do you still have a story if all those things are true, though? I know of an upcoming video game, Immortal Gates of Pyre, that the dev claims is realistic. It's an rts with tons of planned factions fighting each other. Thing is, several of these factions have utterly awful methods of maintaining social cohesion. There's a republic that has using the military as one of its checks and balances. There's a biotech religion with a literal physical god chewing on a mountain, that apparently doesn't care if her prophets start ripping out each others' hearts instead of their enemies. I can see a point here; the dev wanted a ton of different matchups that were suitably dramatic. Thing is, such a system has the characters suddenly forgetting political lessons about keeping the team together, so that the gameplay can be more one to one with the lore. That and it seems pretty unlikely that all the factions' leaders are suddenly at each others' throats and none of them have a sane disagreement resolvement policy. But it sounds pretty fun, and isn't that the point of most fiction?
Ftl or interstellar travel is foundational to any grand sci fi narrative that isn't extremely limited in scope.
Also you don't know anything about energy or AI. Nothing at all. So stop pretending you do know anything about it. It's silly
I say you should read foundation series if you havent already.
The FTL thing also bothers me greatly. It should be perfectly possible to site a sci-fi novel of epic scale inside the solar system without FTL, within a dyson swarm or the beginnings of one. Also the focus on settling on planets over space stations probably don't make sense over a large timescale, and the low numbers of population in sci-fi also irks me. Even Asimov got that part strangely wrong, giving the population of the ecumenopolis capital planet of the galactic empire a staggering 30 billion inhabitants... when we in the 21st century are closing in on 10 whilst most of the planets surface is still free from urban sprawl...
What does FTL mean?
I was hoping the last guy, after explaining why his more complicated book was real hard sci-fi, was going to turn and say something like, "Oh, the Martian is pretty good too."
"I do have a String Theory textbook as well."
_"Okay, that done does actually count..."_
I laughed harder than i should have.
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“Unless their IQ is as high as I perceive mine to be” 🤣
"That one would actually count"
I'm dead. The shade toward string theory xD
I arrived to the same conclution but with fantasy novels.
"The most fantasy you can do, is create a whole new language that has evolved solely in the world of your novel"
That and you have to make it really different from your native language to count and have tons of everyday words to fill it out. So if you're an English native make it have genders, and the more the better. Best look up that IPA alphabet!
@@mattmorehouse9685 a friend of friends i saw once who is studying linguistics told me how he was tasked with analyzing an obscure language where verbs never inflect at all, but all the other words in the sentence have different endings depending on the tense/aspect/mood of the verb... reality is stranger than fiction especially when it comes to languages
Damn, sounds like someone has read quite a lot of Tolkien
Rosenfelder is ready for you
You jest but it seems like everyone has their own conlang these days lmao
Was this just a joke about Egan's Clockwork Rocket? You know the first book of the Orthogonal series.
The one where he essentially invents a new coherent theory of physics just so he can tell an interesting story.
I've never heard of this book, but I just looked it up, and oh boy, now I think I'm gonna have to read it. Sounds super interesting.
@@genericallyentertaining as long as you enjoy something written from the perspective of a plant-alien-thing who lives in a universe with arse-backwards physics.
Personally, I loved it.
@@FelixMeister Makes the two of us
@@genericallyentertainingDon't forget to read the textbook on the physics that is on his website.
Haven't read it, but looking over his website, I suspect he got the idea for the 'Orthogonal' physics while writing Incandecence.
rewatching star-trek is the only correct conclusion
star trek? you mean the show where they come up with a blatantly ridiculous pseudoscientific concept every episode that never gets mentioned or expanded upon ever again?
@@tux1468Just like real life! Where's my petrol car with lasers for spark plugs? Clean (ish), green (ish) and retrofittable!
@@tux1468 science is overrated even in his own area. Science can't prove nothing
@@tux1468 Bro the entire video went over your head
stargate is better than startrek anyday
nothing more annoying than "you sweet summer child"
From the famously realistic historical politics simulator A Song of Fire and Ice. I remember when the zombies fought the dragons at the fall of the Ottoman Empire
@@ralalbatross facts
Trying to figure out what "hard science fiction" even means is one of my favourite conversation topics with other sci-fi nerds because there's no real answer. Can FTL travel be considered "hard" if it's applied rigorously within the book? How about using real theories, but misusing them? Endless arguments! I don't even need another person, I can argue about this topic among myself...
You can write hard sci fi in a world where negative energy densities exists and happily jump in your alcubierre bubbles in all their causality breaching glory.
What hard sci fi means to most people is 'I can imagine NASA doing it'. Most of the time they have no idea what NASA actually does
Trust me. If we discovered negative mass densities in CERN tomorrow NASA would spend the next few days breaking open the bubbly while they dusted off all their warp drive blueprints from the JPLs future drives programmes. Every few years the casimir effect creeps back into the public consciousness too and that keeps getting creepier every time it does. Now we have all kinds of non homogeneous cosmology going on and things are moving quickly again so life is interesting once more :)
Surely as the hardness ascends it just reaches contemporary fiction as then it only features technology we have now and there is no speculation.
I think it pretty much just means that whatever they do has some sort of real life explanation out there somewhere. Like there's a few theories on how faster than light travel could be done. But there's not a chance that every intelligent species outside of Earth looks like a slightly modified human. The only way, in that case, for something to be hard sci fi but include only humanoid aliens, would be if maybe the aliens all evolved from humans or were forced by humans to change shape through GMO or something. That's just one example of something that, without any explanation, makes a sci fi feel more like a fantasy.
The hardest sifi is a book set in thr modern time
The Mohs scale of scifi hardness.
FTL but everything else is perfect would be a 4 or 4.5.
The Martian is about a 5, and real life is a 6.
Star Wars is a 1, for reference.
Meanwhile, in the background:
"I HAVE GLUED A CHAINSAW TO A SWORD! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!"
Army of Darkness should qualify as hard sci-fi - so hard in fact, we still do not have the science to understand it.
Thank you for the string theory joke. XD
I once encountered (but didn't read) a sci-fi series (_Orthogonal_, by Greg Egan) whose premise is "what if space-time used the Riemann Metric instead of the Lorentz Metric", and this produces a universe where many of the equations of basic physics go backwards. (e.g. time contracts rather than dilating at high speeds, and more generally the difference between timelike and spacelike world-lines is a local convention rather than a universal one).
The story is told from the point of view of inhabitants of the world so it's not immediately clear what is going on. Fortunately there is a whole load of pages on the author's own website to explain it.
Greg Egan makes some weird ass science fiction but Quarantine is genuinely just a fun detective sci fi.
_Quarantine_ is definitely the most accessible.
The peak of hard sci-fi is of course Eliezer's _fanfic_ of Greg Egan's _Permutation City,_ in which he invents a novel ontology of existence that technically crosses over _every computable universe._
For what it’s worth I found Schild’s Ladder to be a pretty humane book on some level because the ending always leaves me with a feeling of regret for all of the experiences they missed while chasing the science. Or maybe I’m mixing it up a bit with Diaspora. Both great books in any case, even without much undergrad in my case
Great video but maybe the last guy should have been holding The Road to Reality 😂
Aww, now I wish I'd thought of throwing in The Road to Reality, lol. That would have been perfect.
Yeah, I've also wasted much time reading so-called hard science fiction, including Poul Anderson's, Ben Bova's and Arthur C. Clarke's. Usually the characters are mere Lego men, and it's a huge mistake to believe that The Martian is well researched -- it's actually crammed with blunders. Admitted, some of those novels do work well as superficial entertainment, but one should rather ditch that reading fetish and get a life!
@@justincase4937 🤓
@@justincase4937 lead us away from our reading addictions, enlightened one
Diaspora is one of my favorite books! Ive never seen someone else mention it before. You certainly can appreciate it without an undergrad, I did as a highschooler (ah read your comment better, niether of us have the undergrad lol)
Okay but saying that no hard sci fi can technically be considered hard sci fi if it includes both quantum mechanics and general relativity is actually such a killer comeback 😅
The assumption behind far future hard sci fi is that any theory which successfully combines those two disparate concepts relies on novel physics anyway.
It's fairly similar to the idea of alchemy in a lot of magical novels. This idea that chemistry is some kind of spell is enduring so it gets reused in physics and biology depending on your take on things.
I personally really like that take so it works with me
@@ralalbatrossI suppose it's not impossible that the quantum world and the, uh... I don't know, macro world? Both straight up do just follow different rules. It would explain some things.
@@catpoke9557 The real problem is: Why does gravity only impact big things? That makes no sense. There is not a jump in which the macro world goes to the quantum world. Molecules, can quantum tunnel. The world seems to be continuous. So even if gravity is independent from the rest, when does it becomes independent?
Edit: gravity does affect small things, but we don't know how it affects particles in a non collapsed state. My bad, I am stupid.
@@vidal9747 Gravity affects small things as well. Gravity doesn't just tug on an object, it tugs on the very particles the object is made of.
That said, it is true that we currently don't have a theory that fully integrates with quantum theory. I don't understand it myself but apparently there's some kind of conflict between the two, or something.
@@vidal9747What if there's a world above us and to that world WE'RE ITS Quantum World! Like a jump between tiers large enough to rival that one fucked up space civilization tiering system's. On an unrelated note I am super high rn.
Fan: "Is there a way to overcome Heisenberg´s Uncertainty Principle to be able to know a particle´s position and location at the same time?"
Brando Sando: "RAFO"
Hard scifi is when you need water as reaction mass and also radiation shielding
Science Fantasy is when you use a "Decanter of Endless Water" to solve 90 percent of the problems with spaceflight. 😂
Science Fiction is the Monster to Mary Shelley as Frankenstein
To be designated hard scifi, it has to be at least 8% alcohol per volume.
"im gonna go watch star trek..."
This one hits hard.
We have the same kind of people in historical reenactment. I friend of mine saw a woman totally losing her crap, because the lid on a kettle at the fireplace was from the 15th and not 14th century. She refused to cook with or eat something from that kettle.
This is where TH-cam cut off: "friend of mine saw a woman totally ..."
I mentally responded "maybe, but I doubt anybody in these comments has, for days"
@@zimriel that's why he said a friend saw her.
Stephen Baxter's Manifold trilogy was my first brush with "hard" sci-fi, and later I read Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy. Frankly, I prefer space operas. Repackage me some Shakespeare with a dash of Days of our Lives and give me some pew pews. The Expanse is about as hard as I like it, now.
This is basically power scalers in a alternative universe
😅I put a bibliography in my first novel No Lack of Sunshine. Needless to say, I got a few comments that it was a bit dense. However I got a good comment saying the detail helped the realism.
"If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter"!
Ah! I'll have to check this book out.
I always thought that sci-fi books should come with references. I don't know why they don't.
@@davidwuhrer6704 There is quite a bit of research that makes for good fodder for sci-fi. Mine was about moral machines, and imagined a robot trying to raise a baby and teach it 'right' from wrong. It was my debut, and lags a bit, but there is a moral machinery project out there IRL.
Just to be pretentious, as a mathematician, the Dirac delta is not a real function. It is a distribution. (Or a measure in a certain context.) :P
Martian was pretty awesome. Artemis less so. And currently 300+ pages into Project Hail Mary is really interesting :) I'm probably gonna finish it this year ;)
A FUCKING GREG EGAN REFERENCE you are my hero!!!!
I haven't actually read him, but I hear him mentioned a lot in hard sci-fi discussions, so I figured I'd throw that in. Despite what this video might imply, I do enjoy hard sci-fi when it's done well, so I may check him out some day.
@@genericallyentertaining I honestly don't think you'll be disappointed. The 'hardness' of his settings isn't the point. He uses it as a background to tell stories about people, societies, and their development.
He just happens to base everything on scarily rigorous maths.
I stopped saying I like hard scifi specifically because it seems to attract the sort of reddit try hards who read one Wikipedia page explaining the book and now act like they earned a PhD. I just want the spaceship to be build able, damn it.
-You can't have the sci without the fi and still call it sci-fi
(...)
-I have a string theory textbook
-ok, that one would actually count
LMAO
"I have a string theory textbook" "ok, that one would actually counts." *instant sub*
when he pulls out the textbook god damn, genius
Screw it, I'm going back to Doctor Who novels. Time-traveling box goes Vworp-Vworp
Ok but here me out: Feynman's Lectures on Physics are unironically a good read. And it's actually open access and meant to be be a freshman course, so anyone with a high school diploma has all prerequisite knowledge.