Mystery Dungeon doesn't have any enemies outside of dungeons, so presumably some mage already thought of that and purged the surface world of monsters, so now they take refuge in dungeons. Because we're the good guys.
The mystery dungeon part reminds me of how overpowered Perish song is in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. It affects all enemies in the room and only has 25% accuracy in Rescue Team and 15% in Explorers, but linked with Mind reader is devastating and the user doesn't gain experience after using it.
In the ones I played it hit everything on the floor if you did that. It even worked on Kecleon. You wouldn't be able to make good use of it if you weren't Smeargle though since you wouldn't hit anything without mind reader (or lock on). It's a pretty good combo if you could do it, but Smeargle isn't all that tough and uses are limited, so I don't think it would be good for super long dungeons
Given Sacrifice and DefeatMax appear to be pre-retranslation versions of Kamikazee and Kathwack, I doubt their reach would be endless. Still would've missed those effects in something like Zettai Hero Project, where the large amount of traps make it possible to "steal" an item by mistake.
Reminds me of a heavily modded terraria playthrough I had with a friend. I somehow broke my titanium railgun and it'd hit EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD, MULTIPLE TIMES, FOR MILLIONS OF DAMAGE EACH. That thing was prone to causing my friend to disconnect due to the sheer lag it caused lol
Sacrifice reminds me of the Death Ring from one of the DS Castlevanias. The description is "one hit kills". And sure enough, while wearing it you can kill most enemies in one hit. Unfortunately... you also die in one hit.
If we are talking about devastating weapons that can easily backfire, then you can't leave out the Fat Man from the Fallout franchise. While its practicality and effectiveness has wildly varied through the series, the gist if it is that it shoots a mini-nuke that deals devastating damage that only the toughest of enemies can endure. Of course, you have to make sure you don't get caught in the blast yourself, as otherwise you'll learn the hard way why the weapon has the name it has.
In terms of raw damage numbers, yes. But, for a more practical tool, something like the dart gun is more OP. Weird status effect weapons are rare enough, but one thing that takes it from gimmicky to game-breaking is the fact that it eliminates enemies ability to sprint.
@@79bigcat yeah, I’d say the most powerful weapon from that game would have to go to something like the Overseer’s Guardian, which if built right can deal almost as much as a base Fat Man
@@etherian3291 another great fallout weapon would be Sargent ash with it's cripple legs effect. Since it's a flamethrower it can easily cripple any leg limbs and remove the threat of the strongest ghouls and deathclaws.
DefeatMax reminds me of the Armageddon spell from the Ultima series. It kills every single living thing in the world when cast! Of course, that means all the innocents in towns and the like also die, so the game is basically over if you use it.
Wait what happens to all the dead people? Do they all just disappear or do you see their bodies scattered across the towns? I need to see a video of this
That last question about what defeatmax considers a room intrigues me. I feel like "outside" would either constitute not-in-a-room (doesn't work) or treat the earth as one big room, since we have an atmosphere serving as a bubble and a sort of ceiling protecting the rest of the galaxy. This means monsters inside would be safe, and also thick foggy areas might be safe if they count as their own atmospheres. At any rate, a small price to pay for a monsterless world.
Comet Azur from Elden Ring probably deserves mention here. Under normal circumstances, it's not that useful. Sure, it's a giant death laser that does loads of damage, but it eats through FP so quickly that it can't be used for more than a few seconds. All that changes once you get the cerulean hidden tear, which reduces all FP costs to zero for a few seconds. Combine that with a few sorcery buffing spells and items and you can cheese the majority of bosses. It was such a busted combo that From Software actually had to reduce the duration of the hidden tear.
If you think that then the Celestriad + Thamasa soul combo from FFVI should be here too. When you equip this you can use 2 spells in 1 turn and each one consume 1MP only always. Then you remember that the quick spell (99MP, ) you obtain 2 extra turns after using it, and Artema (80 MP), that ignore enemy defense, and you can do easily 49995 damage with a character in one turn in a game where the most HP an enemy has is 66535 HP usong only 6MP. Without Celestriad is 499 and that is a lot of MP.
Comet Azur is very useful even without the infinite fp tear. the cost of the death beam barely matters if you have over 40 FP. honestly the cost + dps is far overrated, even if it hits for just a few seconds it does over a quarter of the boss' health bar.
It'd be nice if Shiren also had a full-on "mage mode" like that Torneko game, too. That series loves its side characters that get top-billing, like the hero, but stop having any presence by the time you reach the postgame (which is basically 80% of the game). This would provide an "easy" fix. Like, Shiren 5 had a character with a gun and one that could shapeshift into monsters, I would have loved playing as them myself, instead of having relatively weak AI partners do it for me in the easiest dungeon in the game.
When you think about it, the fact that sacrifice and defeatmax exist is probably why gargoyle give only one exp point, if they given the amount of exp you deserve from killing those infinite powerhouse, using those move on a whole army of them would make you level up faster than in pokemon XY
Speaking of Doom, there are user made weapon packs that are stronger (usually much stronger) then the original weapons. And pretty much the most powerful and broken of these mods is Russian Overkill. There are a few weapons that can vaporize 3000 Cyberdemons within 1 to 4 shots. As well as depopulate entire levels. It gets to the point you're more likely to blow yourself up then die to the monsters. But Russian Overkill also raises the cap on health and armor. Even dropping a Hindenburg 2 next to you won't kill you when you're packing 200 thousand in health and armor xD
To be fair, if you've played DQTACT (mobile gacha dq game, pretty nice ngl) the Gargoyles in that game are terrifying, they have a TON of attack compared to literally any other enemy to the point where they can easily halve your HP with a single Spellbinder even when overleveled! (Seeiously, it just happened to me...) Also, they get 4 move, so good luck dealing with a good number of those before they decimate most of your party.
Seeing that Mystery dungeon part I would say that Articuno is also a overpowered character in the first 2 Mystery dungeon games. Snow powder is a multi hit move with a lot of uses that with a little of help (1 or 2 ginsengs or some calcium) can OHKO every enemy in the room. And if you want to kill a boss or an outlaw in one turn not problem link mind reader with sheer cold (this doesn't work in super because bosses are inmune to somo moves like endeavor and OHKO moves) (you can also mind reader powder snow) . It also can learn the overpowered agility if it wasn't enough. Moltres and Zapdos have room moves too but, Zapdos only in explorers and they have less pp, pokemon inmune to those 2 moves, flash fire pokemon for Moltres heat wave and lightning rod pokemon ruins Zapdos discharge and you can't kill ground pikemon with the little damage that you do to them, unlike snow powder that can only be resisted (the penalty is lower in mystery dungeon games) and Articuno learns it at level 1 (this doesn't make him good in level 1 dungeons because he need a lot of Xp for each level up). Articuno has 2 little problem, he learns sheer cold stupidly late, level 85 or 78 and technically 1 pokemon is inmune to snow powder, shedinja.
I played mega man 2 when I was like 6yo, and I used to play it while eating pasta and there was always an specific song I heard everytime I played the game, so everytime I hear that song or I play mega man 2 I feel very happy because of those memories
Suggestion: Ridiculously powerful attacks by incredibly weak enemies. Sort of like how technically Goombas are incredibly strong if they touch Mario, but it doesn't matter because they're so weak.
Wait... Torneko has his own game!? I know other DQ side characters like Yangus, Terry, and Erik star in their own games, but I'm still shocked that Torneko of all characters was given the spotlight. Pleasantly surprised, but still shocked
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In a Mystery Dungeon game, there truly is no other feeling like evaporating a Monster House in one fell swoop.
As a Pokémon MD player, all I can do is use a status-inflicting orb and start running for my life... :(
That's why I love playing as Charizard. I get to wipe out Monster Houses with Heat Wave as soon as they appear.
Criminal House is worse or better yet the escaping outlaw combined with monster house.
Cries in Shiren and spamming endless Vacuum Wave Scrolls...
Unless it's night then I laugh in Electrocute.
@@AeirEclipseHayastin Unless it's one that just pops up generally it's fine to just retreat into a hallway unless there are dangerous monsters.
"Fatboy"'s demonic grunts will be the soundtrack to my nightmares
Mystery Dungeon doesn't have any enemies outside of dungeons, so presumably some mage already thought of that and purged the surface world of monsters, so now they take refuge in dungeons.
Because we're the good guys.
Shoulder charge is a "Leave my Ears Alone" moment
The mystery dungeon part reminds me of how overpowered Perish song is in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. It affects all enemies in the room and only has 25% accuracy in Rescue Team and 15% in Explorers, but linked with Mind reader is devastating and the user doesn't gain experience after using it.
How is that overpowered? Lmao
@@constantinethe2hpencil409 it’s a one hit KO move that hits every opponent in the room.
@@long_john with a very low chance of hitting anyone and no experience point. Can just use a violent seed + any other move like silver wind
In the ones I played it hit everything on the floor if you did that. It even worked on Kecleon. You wouldn't be able to make good use of it if you weren't Smeargle though since you wouldn't hit anything without mind reader (or lock on). It's a pretty good combo if you could do it, but Smeargle isn't all that tough and uses are limited, so I don't think it would be good for super long dungeons
The wrestling part has me fucking dying man, the noises coupled with the suggestive positions of the characters are absolute gold
Given Sacrifice and DefeatMax appear to be pre-retranslation versions of Kamikazee and Kathwack, I doubt their reach would be endless. Still would've missed those effects in something like Zettai Hero Project, where the large amount of traps make it possible to "steal" an item by mistake.
Kamikazee kills the caster and all enemies, doesn't it? Whereas Sacrifice kills the caster or all enemies.
@@EdKolis Well, they have to adapt the move to the gameplay
Finding super busted item comboes is always fun. It's like unearthing the keys to the universe.
Reminds me of a heavily modded terraria playthrough I had with a friend. I somehow broke my titanium railgun and it'd hit EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD, MULTIPLE TIMES, FOR MILLIONS OF DAMAGE EACH.
That thing was prone to causing my friend to disconnect due to the sheer lag it caused lol
17:36 HOLY SHIT. THE FUNKINESS JUST DROPPED OUT OF ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE
Sacrifice reminds me of the Death Ring from one of the DS Castlevanias. The description is "one hit kills". And sure enough, while wearing it you can kill most enemies in one hit. Unfortunately... you also die in one hit.
Order of Ecclesia, right?
I do love how you can make it a two-hit KO instead with the right equipment.
@@VonFirflirch I think it may have been Order of Ecclesia. If not, it must have been Portrait of Ruin, because I never played the other one.
So in other words, Torneko is the equivalent of 1,000s of monsters at once and Sacrifice is just a literal Thanos Snap.
If we are talking about devastating weapons that can easily backfire, then you can't leave out the Fat Man from the Fallout franchise. While its practicality and effectiveness has wildly varied through the series, the gist if it is that it shoots a mini-nuke that deals devastating damage that only the toughest of enemies can endure. Of course, you have to make sure you don't get caught in the blast yourself, as otherwise you'll learn the hard way why the weapon has the name it has.
All my homies love firing 16 mini nukes with the Big Boy MIRV
In terms of raw damage numbers, yes. But, for a more practical tool, something like the dart gun is more OP. Weird status effect weapons are rare enough, but one thing that takes it from gimmicky to game-breaking is the fact that it eliminates enemies ability to sprint.
@@79bigcat yeah, I’d say the most powerful weapon from that game would have to go to something like the Overseer’s Guardian, which if built right can deal almost as much as a base Fat Man
@@etherian3291 another great fallout weapon would be Sargent ash with it's cripple legs effect. Since it's a flamethrower it can easily cripple any leg limbs and remove the threat of the strongest ghouls and deathclaws.
Just looking at that shoulder charge makes my stomach ache...
DefeatMax reminds me of the Armageddon spell from the Ultima series. It kills every single living thing in the world when cast! Of course, that means all the innocents in towns and the like also die, so the game is basically over if you use it.
Wait what happens to all the dead people? Do they all just disappear or do you see their bodies scattered across the towns? I need to see a video of this
Who knew Odio was a Lord British fan? 💥
That last question about what defeatmax considers a room intrigues me.
I feel like "outside" would either constitute not-in-a-room (doesn't work) or treat the earth as one big room, since we have an atmosphere serving as a bubble and a sort of ceiling protecting the rest of the galaxy. This means monsters inside would be safe, and also thick foggy areas might be safe if they count as their own atmospheres. At any rate, a small price to pay for a monsterless world.
16:27 gotta be my favorite part in the video for the comedic timing
Comet Azur from Elden Ring probably deserves mention here. Under normal circumstances, it's not that useful. Sure, it's a giant death laser that does loads of damage, but it eats through FP so quickly that it can't be used for more than a few seconds. All that changes once you get the cerulean hidden tear, which reduces all FP costs to zero for a few seconds. Combine that with a few sorcery buffing spells and items and you can cheese the majority of bosses. It was such a busted combo that From Software actually had to reduce the duration of the hidden tear.
If you think that then the Celestriad + Thamasa soul combo from FFVI should be here too. When you equip this you can use 2 spells in 1 turn and each one consume 1MP only always. Then you remember that the quick spell (99MP, ) you obtain 2 extra turns after using it, and Artema (80 MP), that ignore enemy defense, and you can do easily 49995 damage with a character in one turn in a game where the most HP an enemy has is 66535 HP usong only 6MP. Without Celestriad is 499 and that is a lot of MP.
Comet Azur is very useful even without the infinite fp tear. the cost of the death beam barely matters if you have over 40 FP. honestly the cost + dps is far overrated, even if it hits for just a few seconds it does over a quarter of the boss' health bar.
Guess things get serious when an injured Yuna pulls out a Glock
I can understand the cozy log cabin title music thing
Very wholesome idea
It'd be nice if Shiren also had a full-on "mage mode" like that Torneko game, too. That series loves its side characters that get top-billing, like the hero, but stop having any presence by the time you reach the postgame (which is basically 80% of the game). This would provide an "easy" fix.
Like, Shiren 5 had a character with a gun and one that could shapeshift into monsters, I would have loved playing as them myself, instead of having relatively weak AI partners do it for me in the easiest dungeon in the game.
Same reason why fierce deity mask is boss room only, it would end the world worse than that moon.
No, the real reason is boss room only is...
Link gets too tall to fit into most doors, lol
He big
10:10 He's been smelling what The Rock is cooking...
Ah, I remember the Terry Crewsdemon! I love that nod to the earlier episode! XD
The Catnip in that FF game is best described as "Enmity but gone wild"
When you think about it, the fact that sacrifice and defeatmax exist is probably why gargoyle give only one exp point, if they given the amount of exp you deserve from killing those infinite powerhouse, using those move on a whole army of them would make you level up faster than in pokemon XY
Speaking of Doom, there are user made weapon packs that are stronger (usually much stronger) then the original weapons. And pretty much the most powerful and broken of these mods is Russian Overkill.
There are a few weapons that can vaporize 3000 Cyberdemons within 1 to 4 shots. As well as depopulate entire levels.
It gets to the point you're more likely to blow yourself up then die to the monsters. But Russian Overkill also raises the cap on health and armor. Even dropping a Hindenburg 2 next to you won't kill you when you're packing 200 thousand in health and armor xD
To be fair, if you've played DQTACT (mobile gacha dq game, pretty nice ngl) the Gargoyles in that game are terrifying, they have a TON of attack compared to literally any other enemy to the point where they can easily halve your HP with a single Spellbinder even when overleveled! (Seeiously, it just happened to me...)
Also, they get 4 move, so good luck dealing with a good number of those before they decimate most of your party.
Seeing that Mystery dungeon part I would say that Articuno is also a overpowered character in the first 2 Mystery dungeon games. Snow powder is a multi hit move with a lot of uses that with a little of help (1 or 2 ginsengs or some calcium) can OHKO every enemy in the room. And if you want to kill a boss or an outlaw in one turn not problem link mind reader with sheer cold (this doesn't work in super because bosses are inmune to somo moves like endeavor and OHKO moves) (you can also mind reader powder snow) . It also can learn the overpowered agility if it wasn't enough.
Moltres and Zapdos have room moves too but, Zapdos only in explorers and they have less pp, pokemon inmune to those 2 moves, flash fire pokemon for Moltres heat wave and lightning rod pokemon ruins Zapdos discharge and you can't kill ground pikemon with the little damage that you do to them, unlike snow powder that can only be resisted (the penalty is lower in mystery dungeon games) and Articuno learns it at level 1 (this doesn't make him good in level 1 dungeons because he need a lot of Xp for each level up). Articuno has 2 little problem, he learns sheer cold stupidly late, level 85 or 78 and technically 1 pokemon is inmune to snow powder, shedinja.
Shedinja shouldnt be immune. Bugs are weak to ice types. It should KO it no problem.
@@frootloopthechatot9766 uh no? Bug isn't weak to ice, never has been.
@@thediabolicalraisin8953 at one point i swear it has been. Theres no way this is some mandela effect shiz.
@frootloopthechatot9766 Most Bugs are Bug/Flying, and Flying is weak against Ice.
I played mega man 2 when I was like 6yo, and I used to play it while eating pasta and there was always an specific song I heard everytime I played the game, so everytime I hear that song or I play mega man 2 I feel very happy because of those memories
What kind of pasta?spaghetti?fettucine?penne?tortellini?
It's like the store keeper in zelda link's awakening
Suggestion: Ridiculously powerful attacks by incredibly weak enemies.
Sort of like how technically Goombas are incredibly strong if they touch Mario, but it doesn't matter because they're so weak.
2:43 holy shit you have one hell of a R1 finger!
Dang. And here I thought Palkia's Spacial Rend in the gen 4 pokemon mystery dungeon games was overpowered.
I wonder how whoisthisgit thinks of dark jak in jak 2 and how he can destroy the insta kill thing.
Ah yes Mage Torneko could defeat the demonlord and he can be the hero instead!
...unless he's against some Gargoyles...
finally the series continues!
So THAT’S why Vocations weren’t introduced until 6…
I find powerful attacks to be more interesting than powerful characters for some reason
The question is, can FatBoy beat Ned Flanders?
today i learned that there are actual mystery dungeon games that aren't pokemon
Let me tell you, the WWF segment was pretty funny.
Just when I thought I'd be able to cheese my way through "Final Fantasy X-2 International"... Darn.
Wait... Torneko has his own game!? I know other DQ side characters like Yangus, Terry, and Erik star in their own games, but I'm still shocked that Torneko of all characters was given the spotlight. Pleasantly surprised, but still shocked
10:02 I was wondering when you would address that before asking.
So considering my question answered.
Fun fact: The newest game in the series is technically a return to form.
you can one or two shot anything with rangers mirror ability in ff tactics a2, check this out as well
I hate Monster Houses..But that's why I like having Spurn Orbs if I lack any AoE moves.
If you'd uploaded this five minutes later I would have been asleep.... but the allure of a new video is too much. Who needs sleep schedules anyway
Not you haha
* starts to slowly go insane *
That version of worms, from which platform is it from?
Playstation 1 version.
Bro i resonate with the shitty ps1 wrestling games i remember having one when i was a kid, but instead of wwe attitude It was like, ecw