I was so sure the shortest route was a straight line when looking at a map, but once you demonstrated it on a globe, my mind was blown. This was a great educational experience. Thank you for demonstrating this!
If this pilot even says the words "the earth is flat" he is immediately grounded and suspended. Thats best case scenario but we know hundreds of pilots that were ultimately terminated due to words they verbally said to passengers. Trust me folks when your income and lifestyle depends upon on it you wont dare question it. There are hundreds of independent pilots that work for themselves and they will look you dead in the eye while they tell the truth.... it's flat.
Finally understand! Measuring the green string to yellow cleared it up. Wished you dragged the middle of the green arc over the yellow to see how much bigger, or taller the green arc would be in comparison.
explain emergency landing of chicago flight to doha that made an emergency landing in moscow, which on the great circle appears to be 1000 miles off the course, but on a flat earth map, the three cities are on a straight line route
I certainly do not see how Chicago, Moscow, and Doha are on a straight line route on a flat map. But you can use Google Maps to find the Great Circle route between two places. Start at one point, invoke the "Measure Distance" feature, and click the other point. Not only will it tell you the distance, but the (usually) seemingly curved route the map will draw IS the Great Circle route. I just did that from Chicago to Doha. The Great Circle route (7122 miles) takes you over Labrador, over a bit of Greenland, the just skirting the south coast of Iceland. It arrives at continental Europe over Norway and Sweden. Then it goes over a part of Poland and a corner of Belarus, before crossing through Ukraine. The closest that route comes to Moscow is about 600 miles. I can sort of see making a diversion to Moscow, if you start diverting early, although it seems to me that Warsaw, or a couple of other places, would make more sense.
And that is 100% correct. Aircrafts ships/boats travel in a straight line. They only go curved when they are turning left or right or making a U turn. This curved line garbage is to maintain the spinning ball earth spining in space with curved water programming
@@edwarddechausay44 Exilarating how you people play the expert when you are clearly clueless. Great circles are straight and there Is no reliable flatearth map. Thanks for nothing.
Very well explained. Thank you for that. I have an other Doubt. Why do direct Flights (Air India for example) from India to USA travel towards West to reach USA instead of East? (Considering east being the Shortest Distance)
I had a flight from Frankfurt to Tampa and it took a southerly route over Atlantic. First land I saw was around Cocoa Beach Florida...my previous flights to and from Tampa to Europe have all gone over north Atlantic, up or down u.s. eastern seaboard
That's probably nothing more than the approach they had to take that day, not the whole route. Maybe just near the Florida coast, they had to get around some weather.
Again not a flat earther but I do enjoy learning g about it and hearing both sides; but it does look like a straight shot on the FE map?? assets.answersingenesis.org/img/articles/am/v13/n6/flat-earth-map.jpg
I've never seen flat earthers in these discussions. I DO see lots of insecure and paranoid people who are apparently convinced that flat earthers are lurking under their beds.
Flat topographical plane, motionless. That's why you or anyone else have failed to prove otherwise. I'm sorry they lied to you. And to me and to everyone else. We aim to correct it though.
@@nickthx1138 Yeah, I saw that--got it in my notifications. So, I say I've never run into one, and two days later I run into one. So that's one. It still won't get me to jump into every video about Great Circles and flight paths and the like, gloating "THAT will show all those flat-earthers who (aren't) here all over this discussion." First, I don't have this need to do that, to where I imagine flat-earthers under every rock. Second, this video in no way proves that the earth isn't flat (it wasn't meant to prove it)--any more than that Gleason map proves that it IS flat. The video ASSUMES the earth is round (which the vast majority of people know is true) to explain the apparently circuitous routes airliners take.
Sir please make a video on how pilots find their way on an airport. While taxi to runway for departing and from runway to parking after landing. And on what phase do the learning pilots will get to learn these things.
Pilots use 3 main methods for taxiing. First, they rely on Ground Control which are the controllers stationed on top of a control tower which allows them to see everything on the ground (in good weather). They communicate over the radio and give step by step instructions similar to a GPS. Secondly, pilots will use maps of the airport that shows them all the runways and taxiways etc. They are assisted by markings on the ground that identify where you are. Markers are placed methodically so you can make an educated guess where your next marker might be ahead of time. And lastly, pilots will eventually remember the layout of airports the more times they visit them. Memory and maps are the only things to assist pilots on uncontrolled fields, although many times there are other pilots or ground crew using radios that can help a visitor maneuver. But while on a controlled field, a pilot must obey the ground controller because he/she knows everything happening on the ground and tell a pilot when it's safe to proceed.
I'm post graduate Mechanical Engineer belonging to PESHAWAR , KPK , PAKISTAN. Excellent explanation, even a layman can understand it. ENGINEER TAHIR AHMAD KHAN
The shorter and real route that he demonstrates makes perfect sense on the flat EARTH map…the flat GLOBE map makes the green string route seem most logical at first…until you compare the REAL route taken to the flat EARTH map and that’s when you realize the flat EARTH map is what they actually use because the earth is FLAT. 😊
You understood nothing. Planes do take the shortest route on the globe, why do you play the expert when you are clearly not a pilot? Where is your evidence for your claims? Yeah...
Second, take out your map, draw a line between Dubai and LA, then another between Sydney and Johannesburg. The first line is much shorter tnah the second, yet the first flight takes 16 hours and he second takes 14. Care to explain?
I've never seen a comment from an actual flat-earther in these discussions. I HAVE seen a lot of people who seem to feel a need to answer them, even when they're not there. Perhaps you'll find a few under your bed, along with the monsters and dragons. You can get Daddy to scare them away.
@@stephenkosciesza2706 planes travel in a straight line. The horizon is always at eye level and so is the wing of the aircraft. The plane climbs up, levels out and descends as it approaches its destination. This curve live garbage is to keep the masses asleep on the ball earth spinning in space with curved water...
So what Islands do most airlines pass in route from Miami to Madrid and vice versa?? Just curious. I know you fly over the Bahamas and Bermuda, but any other islands in the Atlantic, like the Azore Islands??
Hello...amazing video content and idea is very clear...but I wanna ask do they fly a perfect great circle...? Also what about reasons for 1.areas such as danger restricted or prohibited 2. Weather( bad weather avoidance, jetsreams, more tailwind...) 3.navaids are not all to be flown straight in a great circle...like maybe naviads and waypoints are not perfect on the great circle 4. Traffic maybe 5... ... ... What are all the casese or scenarios why pilots fly curved...and not straight lines...
They also fly straight on the Globe if you bothered to listen to what he said. No one uses Gleason's map because Earth is a globe, no matter how desperately you try to prove otherwise. And on that map the distances are all wrong.
Great topic!! Just now read abt this in Google home page😅 yes ofcourse!! Its was very informative video and u made a great video!! 🤩 loved it! Explained very well Brother..if u dont mind may I know which airline do u fly for?
Very good explanation because it included a visual representation with the wires. This also applies to satellites, and the ISS. They also follow straight lines, but appear to be curved on a 2-d map, also. The spherical nature of the Earth, coupled with her rotation really convolute what a flight path looks like on a 2-d representation. Thank you.
@@99.9percent9yeah. Gravitational pull keeps it in orbit. When it went out it was moving at the speed earth is spinning so it goes that fast w no resistance because its space. So curvature, speed, and distance from earth stays the same.
There's one thing you need to remember with these flat earth kooks. Not 1 person in the history of mankind has ever been to or seen the edge of this so-called flat earth and brought back a single shred of proof. We've had cameras for over 100 years and there's not 1 photo of the edge. Don't you really think if the flat earth wasn't a hoax there would be thousands of photos to prove their side. But yet, there's NONE! Think of the money and fame someone would get if they were the first to prove a flat earth.
Flat earth is the most censored topic on the internet. Flat earth is the most searched phrase on youtube. You are not a random accident spec of dust flying in a vacuum on a water ball rock that quite literally would defy natural laws. Please keep researching, much love and much peace.
@@Optionvideo209 ****Flat earth is the most censored topic on the internet.**** Nope!! not even close. Ukraine was the number 1 searched term in 2022. Wordle...even Betty White had more searches than flat earth. In fact, flat earth was so low in searches it's not even listed. This proves the belief in the the flat earth earth hoax is rapidly dying.
If the two points are on opposite longitude lines, then yes, the Great Circle connecting them will go through the poles. And if the two points are both on the equator, then the GC route IS the equator. If two points happen to be exactly opposite (i.e., start at one and start digging, and you'll come up at the other), then suddenly, there's an infinite number of Great Circles connecting them.
Absolutely outstanding practical. After watching numbers of videos got the actual video which clarified my 29 years of confusion.
Those Green & Yellow wires you demonstrated - it explained it everything !.........
0:13 Captain Joe vibes 😘.
BTW, RIP FLAT EARTHERS😂
hahaha This one was nice... RIP flat earthers
Yes it also comes in my mind . India captain joe. ✈
@@mohit6945 then you should wait for the next of next video.... m sure u will get blown away😉
@@TheFlyTuber i am waiting . i have a question . Which aircraft and which airline you fly for ? Sorry for my english
I an waiting for your reply . Btw nice video and now i am one of your fans .
P.S :- ✈😅
Wow how cool is that.
Really amazing fact came to know today.
I really appreciate your efforts brother keep maintaining your altitude all the best
Sure bhai .. and thankyou very very much for this sweet comment ❤
@@TheFlyTuber your welcome captain.
If you are a flat earth believer like me.
This is very basic.
Go check flat earth map
And search all flight route in the world
I was so sure the shortest route was a straight line when looking at a map, but once you demonstrated it on a globe, my mind was blown. This was a great educational experience. Thank you for demonstrating this!
If this pilot even says the words "the earth is flat" he is immediately grounded and suspended. Thats best case scenario but we know hundreds of pilots that were ultimately terminated due to words they verbally said to passengers. Trust me folks when your income and lifestyle depends upon on it you wont dare question it. There are hundreds of independent pilots that work for themselves and they will look you dead in the eye while they tell the truth.... it's flat.
LMAO it's not flat, you know nothing at all. Cope.
For years this has puzzled me. This was the best explanation and demonstration that I've seen..thanks.
Same.
Wohaaaa! Very informative the way u explained is up to the mark like a real lecturer... Thank u
I wasn't aware of this..
Thanx alot for these words.... motivates me a lot
Super bro very clean explain i haven't seen this type of example. I am india kee continue ❤️🤝👌👌
Thanks... happy to know you liked it
Finally understand! Measuring the green string to yellow cleared it up. Wished you dragged the middle of the green arc over the yellow to see how much bigger, or taller the green arc would be in comparison.
Practical always better than theory. Now I got it well, thanks
Proud of u Mr. What clarity in explanation!
Mind blowing explanation.......hatsoff...... How simply you you explained the longest and shortest way...... Again mind blowing, excellent, marvelous
and in the flight training module you were taught the earth is flat, non-rotating
LMAO no, that's a lie. The document you are referring to is not for flight training, you never even bother to fact check the lies you are fed huh?
False, that's not a Flight training module and like every flatearther, you know nothing of what you are talking about
explain emergency landing of chicago flight to doha that made an emergency landing in moscow, which on the great circle appears to be 1000 miles off the course, but on a flat earth map, the three cities are on a straight line route
I certainly do not see how Chicago, Moscow, and Doha are on a straight line route on a flat map.
But you can use Google Maps to find the Great Circle route between two places. Start at one point, invoke the "Measure Distance" feature, and click the other point. Not only will it tell you the distance, but the (usually) seemingly curved route the map will draw IS the Great Circle route.
I just did that from Chicago to Doha. The Great Circle route (7122 miles) takes you over Labrador, over a bit of Greenland, the just skirting the south coast of Iceland. It arrives at continental Europe over Norway and Sweden. Then it goes over a part of Poland and a corner of Belarus, before crossing through Ukraine. The closest that route comes to Moscow is about 600 miles. I can sort of see making a diversion to Moscow, if you start diverting early, although it seems to me that Warsaw, or a couple of other places, would make more sense.
And that is 100% correct. Aircrafts ships/boats travel in a straight line. They only go curved when they are turning left or right or making a U turn.
This curved line garbage is to maintain the spinning ball earth spining in space with curved water programming
@@edwarddechausay44 exactly, the great circle doesn't exist because the globe doesn't exist
@@edwarddechausay44 Exilarating how you people play the expert when you are clearly clueless. Great circles are straight and there Is no reliable flatearth map. Thanks for nothing.
@@zeynsolo Wow, any evidence?
Great job Capt
Am a big fan of yours 👍👍
Sir..... all of this is possible only coz of you.... bow your heads guyz... this person is my Instructor.. 😍
A proud moment when a teacher find his student successfull 😊👍🏻
I was thinking about this since a long time and got my answer today..........BTW good content 👌♥️
Thanx a lot... stay tuned for further interesting topics
@@TheFlyTuber yes ofcourse 😊
Very well explained. Thank you for that. I have an other Doubt. Why do direct Flights (Air India for example) from India to USA travel towards West to reach USA instead of East? (Considering east being the Shortest Distance)
Captain Joe music 😁. Love your video man!
Thanks
Sir what is the longest journey you did as a pilot
Plz reply
And we are interested in your some of personal experiences ❤️
I had a flight from Frankfurt to Tampa and it took a southerly route over Atlantic. First land I saw was around Cocoa Beach Florida...my previous flights to and from Tampa to Europe have all gone over north Atlantic, up or down u.s. eastern seaboard
Any reason for this?
Sounds odd, I've taken the same flight, always went up the north atlantic route.
MH370?
That's probably nothing more than the approach they had to take that day, not the whole route. Maybe just near the Florida coast, they had to get around some weather.
Again not a flat earther but I do enjoy learning g about it and hearing both sides; but it does look like a straight shot on the FE map?? assets.answersingenesis.org/img/articles/am/v13/n6/flat-earth-map.jpg
Is EDTO 11:27 have any relation with ETOPS 🤔. It sounds similar. Especially the restriction part!
Both are one and the same, if I make a video on that in the future, i will elaborate further there
Thank thanks you so much . Very good explanation of Flight routes .
😊really really appreciated your explanation.
Educational. You are correct, and you give a very good demonstration.
HOWEVER -- dude, chill! Slow down! You remind me of a friend on Aderall!
Mashalla shakrunlilla Excellent Explanation in detail very knowledgeable
Great information sirr....
Thankyou
What a simple explanation, it was a really convincing.
The best explanation present on internet till now
Good and simple explanation and I also learned what a Great Circle is.
I finally understand!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!
Yes the video was very informative
First view and first like🔥🔥
Legend !...
B
@@TheFlyTuber Dressed
Very simply explained and proven, but annoyingly i still cant wrap my head around it.
Well...I'm sure they're a few others saying this video is over their head.
Great video. All Flat Earther minds have been melted.
I've never seen flat earthers in these discussions. I DO see lots of insecure and paranoid people who are apparently convinced that flat earthers are lurking under their beds.
Flat topographical plane, motionless. That's why you or anyone else have failed to prove otherwise. I'm sorry they lied to you. And to me and to everyone else. We aim to correct it though.
@@stephenkosciesza2706😂 check above dude!
@@nickthx1138 Yeah, I saw that--got it in my notifications. So, I say I've never run into one, and two days later I run into one. So that's one. It still won't get me to jump into every video about Great Circles and flight paths and the like, gloating "THAT will show all those flat-earthers who (aren't) here all over this discussion." First, I don't have this need to do that, to where I imagine flat-earthers under every rock. Second, this video in no way proves that the earth isn't flat (it wasn't meant to prove it)--any more than that Gleason map proves that it IS flat. The video ASSUMES the earth is round (which the vast majority of people know is true) to explain the apparently circuitous routes airliners take.
@@stephenkosciesza2706 count yourself lucky you don't frequent fb space related pages, if you did.... you would know.... 🙂
One of the best video! Great explanation.
Very good explanation. A globe shows a lot of things, including how maps compress distance near the equator. African continent is huge.
Great video. Thanks for your information.
Simply because Miami and N Delhi are both in the northern hemisphere.
Wonderful channel and awesome content keep it going capt.
Much appreciated!
Measurements are usually made on a flat surface
DUH!!! ROTFLOL!!
Very informative sir
Thanks and stick around for more of such vids
Sir please make a video on how pilots find their way on an airport. While taxi to runway for departing and from runway to parking after landing.
And on what phase do the learning pilots will get to learn these things.
Pilots use 3 main methods for taxiing. First, they rely on Ground Control which are the controllers stationed on top of a control tower which allows them to see everything on the ground (in good weather). They communicate over the radio and give step by step instructions similar to a GPS. Secondly, pilots will use maps of the airport that shows them all the runways and taxiways etc. They are assisted by markings on the ground that identify where you are. Markers are placed methodically so you can make an educated guess where your next marker might be ahead of time. And lastly, pilots will eventually remember the layout of airports the more times they visit them. Memory and maps are the only things to assist pilots on uncontrolled fields, although many times there are other pilots or ground crew using radios that can help a visitor maneuver. But while on a controlled field, a pilot must obey the ground controller because he/she knows everything happening on the ground and tell a pilot when it's safe to proceed.
A great circle track is considered a great circle track only if it intersects the Equatorial track if not then it's considered a small circle track.
The best explanation I have ever seen
thank you so much for this explanation, loved it :)
I'm post graduate Mechanical Engineer belonging to PESHAWAR , KPK , PAKISTAN. Excellent explanation, even a layman can understand it. ENGINEER TAHIR AHMAD KHAN
Why flying west to east is lesser the east to west ?
Winds, jet streams.
Good content sir
thanks alot
The shorter and real route that he demonstrates makes perfect sense on the flat EARTH map…the flat GLOBE map makes the green string route seem most logical at first…until you compare the REAL route taken to the flat EARTH map and that’s when you realize the flat EARTH map is what they actually use because the earth is FLAT. 😊
You understood nothing. Planes do take the shortest route on the globe, why do you play the expert when you are clearly not a pilot? Where is your evidence for your claims? Yeah...
Second, take out your map, draw a line between Dubai and LA, then another between Sydney and Johannesburg. The first line is much shorter tnah the second, yet the first flight takes 16 hours and he second takes 14. Care to explain?
@@Cpatriot Gullible simpleton
Appreciate the way you explained.
great explanation sir that excatly what professor said recently
Really, I understood the reason about the route 👍👍
you explained this very well thank you!
Very good explanation capt..
Sir it was such an interesting conceptual and informative video .
Really enjoyed learning thank you sir
It's my pleasure.. glad you liked it...
Best video ever to demonstrate
Please explain why It’s not possible travel further in a set unit of time, if flying in the opposite direction to earth rotation ?
Nice explanation this video cleared my doubt
Very well explained a difficult concept. Thank you
Beautiful Illustration
Bro with this simple explanation you have destroyed those flat earthers who claim 🌏 earth is flat.. 😁😁😁💪👌
Bro! That’s exactly what the flat earth map tells you 🤦🏻♂️
@@danielake1969 : Except that the FE map can't even get the sun's location correct. Why is that? It's only 2D!
@@kitcanyon658 ?!? You a clown aren’t you…. That has already been proven!! Get out of here!!!
I've never seen a comment from an actual flat-earther in these discussions. I HAVE seen a lot of people who seem to feel a need to answer them, even when they're not there. Perhaps you'll find a few under your bed, along with the monsters and dragons. You can get Daddy to scare them away.
@@stephenkosciesza2706 planes travel in a straight line. The horizon is always at eye level and so is the wing of the aircraft.
The plane climbs up, levels out and descends as it approaches its destination.
This curve live garbage is to keep the masses asleep on the ball earth spinning in space with curved water...
So what Islands do most airlines pass in route from Miami to Madrid and vice versa?? Just curious. I know you fly over the Bahamas and Bermuda, but any other islands in the Atlantic, like the Azore Islands??
Hello...amazing video content and idea is very clear...but I wanna ask do they fly a perfect great circle...? Also what about reasons for 1.areas such as danger restricted or prohibited
2. Weather( bad weather avoidance, jetsreams, more tailwind...)
3.navaids are not all to be flown straight in a great circle...like maybe naviads and waypoints are not perfect on the great circle
4. Traffic maybe
5...
...
...
What are all the casese or scenarios why pilots fly curved...and not straight lines...
I heard some where that aircraft route map also similar to bus route I mean aircraft also will take turns left and right sometimes..... Is it true.
Very easy and comprehensive explanation. Feels great to learn something new.❤
Very nice video brother 😮
Awesome explanation 💗
VERY WELL EXPLAINED THANK YOU N
Great work sir
Thanks
So the shortest point IS a straight line if you are traveling on the equator?
It's Always a straight line of you follow a Great circle.
They actually DO fly in a straight line according to the Gleason’s FLAT Earth map
They also fly straight on the Globe if you bothered to listen to what he said. No one uses Gleason's map because Earth is a globe, no matter how desperately you try to prove otherwise. And on that map the distances are all wrong.
@@alexf962 💯👍👍
@@alexf962 i guess ships and boats travel curved on the leveled ocean....so sad our human species
Video worth it, thank you
Very perfectly explained
Good explanation , even a layman can easily understand.
Great topic!! Just now read abt this in Google home page😅 yes ofcourse!! Its was very informative video and u made a great video!! 🤩 loved it! Explained very well
Brother..if u dont mind may I know which airline do u fly for?
Thanx a lot,, very happy to know you liked the explanation... checkout my IG to know the answer for your ques
@@TheFlyTuber u fly for Air Asia if I'm not wrong?
Thank you for explaining this
What a beautiful explanation sir! ❤️
Glad you liked it!
I wasn't understanding properly but after the globe example it got cleared
See.... thats what examples and visuals do
Answer : Space/Time is Curved . 🛩️🎢
Can you repeat the exact same description on a Gleason’s map, please 🙏🏼
Why?
Very well described 👏 👌 👍
Great content bro keep it up 👍 good work
Thanks alot
Very good explanation because it included a visual representation with the wires. This also applies to satellites, and the ISS. They also follow straight lines, but appear to be curved on a 2-d map, also. The spherical nature of the Earth, coupled with her rotation really convolute what a flight path looks like on a 2-d representation. Thank you.
The ISS travels over 17,000 mph round the globe with no propulsion holding the same distance from earth???
I just want to see the ball they keep talking about. They repeat it religiously as if they never thought to question it.
@@99.9percent9yeah. Gravitational pull keeps it in orbit. When it went out it was moving at the speed earth is spinning so it goes that fast w no resistance because its space. So curvature, speed, and distance from earth stays the same.
@@99.9percent9that’s the simple version lol. Just look it up if you’re interested lol
How safe are international flights?
great circle navigation
enjoyed this
Bro you are one of my inspiration
Thankyou.. These words are my motivation
How if you fly through north does the GPS works normal?
Wow thanks for explaining! I was getting nervous with all the flat earth vids 😂
There's one thing you need to remember with these flat earth kooks. Not 1 person in the history of mankind has ever been to or seen the edge of this so-called flat earth and brought back a single shred of proof. We've had cameras for over 100 years and there's not 1 photo of the edge. Don't you really think if the flat earth wasn't a hoax there would be thousands of photos to prove their side. But yet, there's NONE! Think of the money and fame someone would get if they were the first to prove a flat earth.
Flat earth is the most censored topic on the internet. Flat earth is the most searched phrase on youtube. You are not a random accident spec of dust flying in a vacuum on a water ball rock that quite literally would defy natural laws. Please keep researching, much love and much peace.
@@Optionvideo209 ****Flat earth is the most censored topic on the internet.****
Nope!! not even close. Ukraine was the number 1 searched term in 2022. Wordle...even Betty White had more searches than flat earth. In fact, flat earth was so low in searches it's not even listed.
This proves the belief in the the flat earth earth hoax is rapidly dying.
What is rowt?
Beijing to New York. Also Singapore to New York or Newark depending on the time of the year. These fly over our very close to the North Pole.
assets.answersingenesis.org/img/articles/am/v13/n6/flat-earth-map.jpg
If it's straight opposite then why do we go with pole. We can use Equator line also right ?!
If the two points are on opposite longitude lines, then yes, the Great Circle connecting them will go through the poles. And if the two points are both on the equator, then the GC route IS the equator. If two points happen to be exactly opposite (i.e., start at one and start digging, and you'll come up at the other), then suddenly, there's an infinite number of Great Circles connecting them.
Bhai any idea when is indigo and spicejet cadet course program opening up
Captain, can you please make a video on how an aircraft maintains its cabin pressure?
Sure... added to the list
Did you test straight line?
What are you even talking about?
At what point would a plane be upside down when flying around a supposed globe? It is impossible to
Nowhere Is upside down. Learn physics.
Keeps up the curve illusion.
Keep crying
Great explanation!
Glad you think so!
Pls say about Delhi san francisco Pacific route ..
Sir mujeh pilot banna h bt usse pahele mere btech karne ka mn h karu ya nahi pilot carrer me uska kch fyda rahega ya nahi?
Personally backul ke lie accha rahega, but pilot career me as such koi zyada difference nahi if u have a btech or not