DOTA UNDERLORDS VS TEAMFIGHT TACTICS Which Game is better? - Auto Chess Dota vs TFT LOL Gameplay
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- DOTA UNDERLORDS VS TEAMFIGHT TACTICS Which Game is better? - Auto Chess Dota vs TFT LOL Gameplay League of Legends
Looking at the major differences between both games, which game should you play? Difference and Comparison
#tft #teamfighttactics #lol #dota #underlords #autochess #autochessmobile #dotaunderlords - เกม
There are plenty of misconceptions here. The first being the issue with 4 vs 8 simultaneous battles. This doesn't actually mean it takes longer, the longest lasting battles are the ones between the strongest players, which will happen regardless if there are 4 or 8 battles happening at the same time. By the time they're finished fighting basically everyone did the same, be it 8 or 4 battles happening. Also, Dota Underlords has an attacker-defender system, which means you could attack someone, as in send your troops to defeat them, while you're defending against someone else who is attacking you. That makes for a much wider range of possibilities as you don't need to defeat the guy you're attacking, you just need to survive whoever is attacking you. This has huge implications. The other misconception being that Dota underlords doesn't have a shared hero pool. Assuming it goes for the same system as Auto Chess, throughout the entire game heroes are in a shared pool. That has huge strategic implications since if you're using the same hero that I'm using, we're both at a disadvantage against the rest of the players since we'll be sharing upgrades.
Gotta disregard some facts to make dota underlords look bad it seems. Then also ignores the fact that tft literally copied dota auto chess when comparing both games. Having a map, items, "alliances", and couriers aren't the only elements of auto chess. It has so much room for creativity yet riot somehow came up with the same elements as dota's. Clearly didnt copy from dota lol!
@@serifcetinalp7176 and dota auto chess copied auto chess from starcraft 1 your point is.
@@serifcetinalp7176 you do realize dota auto chess is a mod made from a random dude than valve right? Valve just wanted to get on the hype train with Underlords.
So just trash underlords and TFT , them play auto chess , which is made with the direct touch of that random dude . Give creativity some value ,rather than these Monopoly assholes , copying everything
Yea after @Redox first argument I already knew this comparison is horse shit, it doesnt matter how many battles there are at the same time, whole round will take as long as the ONE longest battle, doesnt matter if there are 1000 players or 2, more players only increases probability of longer game but in 99% cases it wont be significantly longer.
There are 8 battles instead of 4 with 8 players however they happen simultaneously!.
With relation to time, the only difference is that there is a larger chance of a longer matches
In this genre. This is a race of perfecting the game, who can make the best foundation in esport wins in this trendy game battle.
Yea 3 auto chess games competing with each other, who will dominate esports...
as far as I can tell underlords has the least rng involved, less rng means more competetivly viable
And who keeps the updates interesting. Let's be honest.
@@RedoxDomiNations sorry to tell ya dota autochess just having mobile client and tft not, tft will just autolose if they dont make a mobile version. Take a peep at Hearthstone.
BALANCE? thats valve's strength, riot doesnt have a chance
i have played 6 games of TFT, and also ALOT of Dota Underlords...Main reason is cause i fealt Dota Underlords had more Strategy involved then TFT, so my choice would be Underlords
Underlords is so much better than TFT, i didnt even make it through one game of TFT before quitting, Dota had me hooked instantly.
Same, also why the hell are all the game elements described out of game but not in the game itself. Like in Underlords there is a section for everything in the game but in TFT you have to go to some website to look through stuff. One of the biggest issues in any game design is when you send your players outside of the game to figure out how to play your game.
@@AJTheriot3 Yeah I think its because Riot sees this more as a minigame, Valve sees the real potential in auto chess hence why they made a better standalone.
@@eggcorns9422 Yea, Riot are too scared to release another full game for some reason. Its almost like if TFT fails they can just be like o it was just a game mode not an actual game.
@@AJTheriot3 TBH that's how Riot handles stuff, it's just like it's always been in league. If you wanted to see the ability's ratios and damages in all levels you had to go to some 3 party website because in the game they only show you the base damage at level 1 and it's the same here, it's just so stupid how they try to be so engaged with their community but still fail on these basic comfort elements
Whilst I agree 100% TFT will do better just because it's Riot and people's lives depend on brand loyalty in this day and age. In turn that will encourage pros to turn to TFT as that's likely where the consistent money will be.
Which game is better?
You didnt even bothered answering your own question
Tft
there is no better, some prefer tft and some prefer dota underloard, now what he does here, is explain the deference, so you have the choice of seeing which is better, FOR YOU
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as what is happening with league of legends and dota2
i tried both games, i loved league of legends, so i choosed it, but somepople hate league of legends, and love dota2, there are a big big deferece between these 2 games
the same as in tft and underwloards
@@MarvoldX Omar Nabulsi Have you ever read what is in the title of the video? Theres no such thing for recommendation made FOR YOU in the whole vid of which he only tells then comparison and differences between the games. This aint about league vs dota. Coz i played both and enjoyed them. Its just the is the video title is misleading.
@@acecelso7484 man, i totally understand this, of what i mean "dota vs leauge whitch game is better?" the title said witch game is better
he did comparison between the two, tells the deference and stopped, so we have to choose the better ones, after seeing the deference,, the same as when u buy a car or a mouse, what is better bmw or marsedis "sry i am not into cars and eng so bad" now you see a compair betweenthe two, for exable one is good for handling, other is safer , one is faster, and You decided the better one, for you
sry man my English is so bad
@@MarvoldX I get your point man. Your english is good btw. Cheers mate
I played Dota Underlords first, tried TFT later. What was nice in Dota Underlords was the possibility to play a tutorial vs bots at my own pace, the learning was so much easier. The character models on board and in the shop look virtually the same, so easy to spot what character you want to buy, also they have a highlight in a form of a star above their head in the shop, so you know this is a char you already have, so easy to spot...
You can equip chars with items that you can later trade to another char, in TFT the char is stuck with the item you give them, until you sell them (afaik). I really enjoy playing Dota Underlords, even if there may not be as many "team comps" as in TFT.
I tried TFT, mostly because of friends.... Coming from Dota Underlords, you would think it would be an easy transition.. There was no Tutorial or possibility to fight vs bots, that was one thing I was missing. So I started to play Normal games, at start it feels super confusing, chars in store are shown in form of a card, so you can't really "see right away" what chars you are buying (I understand, that after playing multiple rounds you may pick that up, but at start it is not exactly user friendly). The board in form of Hexagons, don't really mind that. Me controling a char on the board and clicking to pick up coins and items.... Yeah right, extra clicking I do not enjoy... picking chars from a pool every round X... No thank you... TFT to me looks like it was made in year 2000 (graphic wise), so Dota had more appealing chars to me (and Yeah, I am all about looks..). Seeing alliances and their bonuses desription was WAY easier to me in Dota Underlords.
So all in all, for me it is Dota Underlords, because of its simplicity, easy to understand, more appealing graphics, less clicking, less combinations of teams (can be a bad thing I admit).
I really tried to look up some videos of TFT to kind of "get into it", because before I did the same for Dota Underlords, where I saw TH-cam videos from Swim and quill18 and they were dynamite. After finding 3 beginner videos for TFT I was unable to understand 2 of them, and the 3rd I stopped watching after we got into around 7th round fighting vs other players and to me the graphics is just unwatchable.
If I never had played any of the two games, I would have liked to start TFT and then Dota Underlords, to see if my view would be different, but I highly doubt it.
i think what game will be on top depends on 2 things one does tft do well enough that its a permanent game mode and does underlords rank kill tft pbe beta. if underlords rank is enough to stop people from playing tft then it wont be a permanent mode thus making underlords the beter game but if tft can become permanent by the time it rank comes out i think it will win since it has the advantage of league playerbase
Yeah lol has more players but was the last to be released. Underlords will also be on mobile soon and league has no news a mobile port yet... if league wants to be the top they need to make a mobile version too
Dont forget tft is not going to mobile, bu dota underlords is!
@@SuperDotaPlaya they never said they are not going mobile forever they said its just not on the list yet
League just has a bigger player base, so they already have players, who will play this. Also, Riot are making path every 2 weeks, i think that this will be the same for TFT
its already available on iOS
which is easier to pick up for someone not familiar with autochess?
auto chess is not hard to get into, i would recommend playing dota underlords the game is beautifully balanced like dota 2, the items are so interesting and copmpliment the gameplay so much, you will get hooked if you like the genre
I'd say Underlords because they've simplified and improved a lot of things considering other games of the genre. Also to me it is easier to differentiate the troops from one another.
*edit: Underlords also has tutorial and bots to train with. (and less rng because of the loot system)
I would say Dota, because UI is more readible, and you can have in game access at any time to all info you need (alliances, heroes, items, stats etc.)
Personally, I don't like Dota, I have played League for 10 years and it's still my go-to. Having said that, Dota Underlords is a MUCH more enjoyable experience than Teamfight Tactics. I find TFT to be clunky and heavily RNG dependant. It also has some glaring balance flaws right now (Draven anyone?). Dota Underlords absolutely nailed the system, yes the UI isn't absolutely perfect but the Graphics are far superior, the gameplay is much more consistent and balanced and does heavily depend on your own choices rather than RNG. Yes there's an element of RNG too, it's an auto-battler but nowhere near as much as TFT. I found myself not enjoying TFT at all, it was actually quite a chore to play whereas with Underlords I actually lose track of the time pretty quickly.
Overall Dota Underlords is a way better game right now and I can feel quite unbiased saying that since I am a huge League of Legends fan - Sorry but this time Dota actually did do it better. Way better.
graphics is not even valve's strength, its all about balance and fun mechanics
Try dota 2 bro you will quit lol
But dota 2 is more harder and complex and challenging to start
It will be that till the end.
Even me as dota 2 player find it really hard even now
Thats make it fun
@@cornpop6593 i agree my fellow comrade
@@cornpop6593 Dota 2 is only hard because games are matched with 4/5 Russians. The game mechanics themselves are just clunky, in terms of actual play ability League is way better for a MOBA.
@@XBezerkerX bro do you know we have this thing called "region" on dota ? And the main players are from china not russia .
Since you talk like this i can tell like 100 percent that you have never actually tried dota ,maybe you just heard some rumors about it.
And you talking about mechanics.
There are like 1000 mechanics on dota . In dota even time makes so much diffrence and most of the heroes are like so much different and hard to play.
There are two hero called "invoker" and "mepo" check there tutorial on youtube . You have to press like 10 buttons.
LOL Hearthstone music!!
>in tft there are 4 battles, in underlords there are 8 battles at the same time, therefore in tft it takes less time.
Uhhh, no? They're all happening simultaneously so it doesn't matter how many battles are going on, 4 or 40. The average level is around the same so it takes on average the same time to complete the battles. Long battles that bottleneck everyone else can happen in both 4 and 8 battles format.
But with 8 battles you have 8 chances to get a long battle and with 4 battles you have 4 chances. The average won't be that much different, but the chance that at least 1 battle is significant loner than the average is higher.
Biased much??
Look at the name of his channel!
which game do u think he is biased to?
You made Underlords sound more cumbersome when it actually isn’t. Please research even more deeply so that your audience can pick equally which one they’d like to play better. I hope I make sense.
Please explain.
Hes just a blind lol fangay that just supports watever is related to the garbage game he consumes lol
Oh shit, here we go again
i like lol and its fun to play but TFT somehow meh because of some circumstances. For strange reason, since underlord is f2p, I got hooked on it.
Gonna play both with main focus on underlords. Can't stand watching TFT graphics for too long (was an under-challenger in league hah)
The 8 separate fights thing in Underlords is the only downside to the game imo. I was in top 2 of a game yesterday, with me having 75 health and the other guy having 30 health. His team setup was vastly superior to my own at that point and they completely destroyed me every fight. However, on his side he was actually losing to my team as well, making me eventually win the match... How is it possible for me to get completely destroyed in my fights and still win the game? Seems to me there are some issues there because that makes absolutely no sense.
honestly it probably comes down to how the units attacked. The battles are very snowbally, likely in the last stages where you are top 2 you can roll over your opponent if your units do the right things or vice versa. So its actually pretty cool that the units can have different interactions from battle to battle. Especially if there are some effects in play that only happen a % of the time. Maybe in your battles you lost your units sucked ass at getting on the better end of those % but in your opponents defense they also got unlucky with the % modifiers.
@@AJTheriot3 I guess that does make it interesting in a way and if they were close fights i wouldn't have given it a second thought. The reason i say this is because i got absolutely destroyed in my fights, killing at most one of his units if i got lucky, yet he still lost to my team in his fights. It just struck me as being a bit strange and unbelievable from my perspective. I just didn't feel like i deserved to win that match considering how badly i got dominated during those fights.
There are many chance based variables at play during the fight such as evasion, crit chance, stuns, shielding and more are all based on chance
it doesnt matter if there are 4 or 8 or maybe even 100 battles taking place. As long as they are taking place parallel the number of battles doesnt matter.
The only thing that does make it last longer is lets say in underlords you randomly get matched with someone and they ALSO so happen to be matched with your attacking team. You can have both players actually win even though they defeated the other team. In TFT someone has to lose everytime which is why the matches will be slightly faster. With that said I love underlords and will try tft
@@Metalbladelawncare what.
@@dusty6299 His point is that if players that are defending against each other both win no one takes damage so the match takes more time. I was top 2 in a game and both of us were defeating each others army each round, it took us about 7 rounds to finally finish that match. But this doesnt just happen in top 2, this can happen at any point of the game. There have been rounds where exactly 0 people took damage.
@@AJTheriot3 Isn't it just as likely that if 2 players are matched against each other they will both lose and take damage? What this means is increased variance. Each round can have anywhere from 0-8 players taking damage.
CptnJoystick yea for sure. I was pointing out what someone was saying. There is high variance so your game could take a long time or it could be short or anywhere in between.
TFT will probably have much better balance and content IN THE FUTURE. Valve is releasing 1 hero in dota for ages while riot releasing a bunch of new content in no time. I would say there will be the same situation.
Im not even a dota fan but youre arguing for quantity which does not necessarily mean quality. LoL can release all the champs they want and release a ton of content for TFT but if it isnt enjoyable no one will keep playing it and it will be dead like twisted treeline or what was the other one they got rid of, dominion? Not to mention underlords is mobile friendly while TFT isnt and doesnt have plans to. Where you think players are going to go to when they can play underlords at work, at school, on breaks, on the toilet, on car rides, planes, almost everywhere (underlords have bots so you can pause and come back to it if you only have little bits of time to play). TFT will just autolose if they dont consider making a mobile version of this, its basically a card game and look how well hearthstone did.
@@AJTheriot3 Releasing new characters and reworks it's always interesting AND this is the actual quality. That exactly shows that Riot is put much more efforts to polish their game and make it more interesting, while Valve is doing nothing besides ripping money from players. Anyway, both games is quite repeatative at the current state and it's getting boring quite fast, so it needs a lot of fixes and improvements and tons of new content to maintain interest.
@@AJTheriot3 Making a mobile version of TFT is only the matter of time. It's not even the case. The real case is how many content and how interesting the gameplay will be.
@@AJTheriot3 Hearthstone get popularity because there was no any competitors. As for the AC there is compeletely different story.
Dude Yes valve releases heroes slowly but they balance them perfectly.Look at league fast releases and shit balance.Enough said
"HEY GUYS!" damn dude, you got my eardrums blown in like the first 2 seconds!
But to be fair, none is better, I see Underlords as the base game with tft as it's successor really, the crafting of level 1 items allready breaks it, they ddnt hav eto add the 3 items per character limit to be fair,
But as someone that played OG autochess (2 games) I can allready see how i difert from the OG dota or League friends i have, I can see how Runaans huricane is OP on Garen instead of building him tank. and that is where most people should look at, Items!
Runaans in league gives you a (certain, not sure what) percent extra damage on people you arent auto attacking, but it changed to a 50 percent chance to hit someone else on the board!
Bassically, Runaans is kinda core on Ashe normally, but i'd deffo take it on Garen because he is way stronger than Ashe in TFT. Same goes for MOM in dota 2, or autobattle, theres just this sublte diffrence in passives!
Wtf are you talking about now. This is all false
3 item limit is perfect. If you could add more, they would get too strong.
Everything about Runaans is wrong. It works exactly the same in League and TFT. But in tft its fookin horible dont build it.
5:36 TFT the frozen trhone is here guys
Yeah that’s the joke xd
Honestly that's what I've been reading it as and all I'll ever read it as. I think I'm going with Underlords.
That champ select in tft is a complete bs. Just remove it.
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Definitely a fair comparison, don’t see any obvious bias anywhere...
All I can say that Dota Underlords won't be able to match TFT in terms of popularity. I feel like it's going to be exactly the same as League vs Dota 2 situation, where League would dominate 70% of moba genre. Pretty much going to be the same here.
MVP_KZ Disagree to some extent. Valve are smart on this one. TFT is still only on PBE and Underlords is already on iOS and Android..
this also isnt league vs dota, this is a gamemode on league vs underlords
the playerbase of underlords transitions instantly from dota auto chess which is already massive in china, but whether or not they go from dota / drodo chess to underlords is a different thing
I actually disagree. I don't believe majority of people transition to another game in the same genre. Mainly hardcore fans of the genre would. But only if the new game is better. I'm sure Dota Underlords will be popular on mobile. However League is owned by Chinese company and the most popular game in Asia. Therefore it wouldn't be wrong to think that TFT might also gain a huge fan base in Asia too. However riot will be marketing it for the western audience, plus it's on pc. Games on pc are more streamable than on mobile atm. So I could see TFT taking over the auto chess, while Dota Underlords being in top 3 as well.
On top of that Dota Underlords reviewers said that the game has too many bugs, constantly crashing on phones and said it's overall worse experience than auto chess. I really don't see how this is going to compete with TFT which is not even out yet, but already has more people waiting for it. The problem with mobile games, there are simply way too many choices nowadays. You start playing it for a week or two, but then you forget about it. It's better to release mobile version after it gets more popular on other platforms like pc etc. If they release it on steam, it won't as popular. There are too many other games filling up the space. And if there are two successful games of the same genre, people tend to focus only one of them not both. I'm sure people would download Dota Underlords to try out but probably jump ship once TFT gets released.
> first 2mins
> underlords takes 40mins and TFT takes less than 30minutes.
This youtuber is either so misinformed or corresponding to its name, completely bias.
Valve has taken significant measures in lowering playtime to less than 30minutes for mobile users.
pc players and mobile guys play together, 40 mins is about right
popcorn!!!!
underlords was far superior. RIP
if it's superior, it lived. Since it don't it only a false product.
this is a stupid review.. i didnt have to finish the video.. thanks to comments
gahbage
Someone explain to me to the downvotes please :)
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@@alexo_pog ?
Valve > riot.
not in our universe :]
Go play artifucked then, lul
Valve > Tencent
@@Glauaiv Go play... o my bad Riot has only one game.
Valve are titans, riot is a mere baby suckling it's one creation. League 🤮
lol is better than dota so tft is better XD