As a retired 'sheet metal' man, I saw a few things I'd have done differently. BUT, they were so minor I'll not bring them up. All said and done, you did an EXCELLENT job considering your first experience and equipment used! A BIG 'Well Done' from a pro.
@@amodestmousefan hey - can you post a link to examplify the cold rolled channel ? just trying to go through all improvements before i start buying material for a new project
This video is everything I needed!!! My husband and I are building our tiny house w aluminum framing and we weren't really sure where to start. I'm SO grateful you took the time to share this information! I had built the "stud-cutting" part up to be so difficult in my head and it's so much simpler than I'd expected! Thank you thank you thank you!
So Guys I am a retired Carpenter I framed metal studs for 40 years you did well for a first attemp few things could have done for ease but all and all good job
I am glad I found your channel. I watch Mic the Vegan. I need to build a tiny house and was going to pay $20,000 for a shell. Knowing these skills will save me so much money!🌞
I have been looking for vids on metal stud building from start to finish... You folks have the Only ones, and the most thorough ones for anyone to learn how to do it!! I've been gathering materials for 3 years so that by the time I'm ready to build and it's done, I'll own it! Thank you so much for giving all the little details!!
Smart to buy before building. Not only do you own it when you build it but you also can figure out how to fit the stuff in as you build it rather than as an after thought.
Thank you! I've been researching metal stud construction on youtube and google for the last week. This was by far the most informative and well presented video so far. Keep up the good work and please continue sharing your adventure. Subscribed and liked immediately!
me too. tips from videos I found.. 1) always cut studs from top. so all holes stay in line for plumbing and electrical wiring stay in line .hope that helps. I,m trying learn this as well.
Well done. If you have a framing design in mind, the company that supplies the studs. Can often run your plan into one of their own programs in their computer and then they will pre cut every piece. Which can cost a bit more but will save a lot of time. Plus the pre cut studs, plates etc, will have a little indentation so the fixing, screws will sit more flush to the wall. If you are using metal exterior lining, be sure to use some sort of thermal break. The same company should be able to get these foam strips which can be instaled between the buliding paper and metal cladding. All the best
Thank you both so much for making this video! I have more time than money and am considering metal framing my tiny house, which is just a trailer for now. This is EXACTLY what I needed to see!!
This is the most informative video I've come across!!! I wanted to build with a steel frame structure & was pricing them out, it's expensive. Now, thanks these wonderful people I can build my own. Great job! Thank you for uploading.
Superb video! I've been remodeling houses for years but never use metal studs so these tips are priceless, I'm getting ready to build my tiny house and decided on metal for weight reasons. Btw, the comment section was entertaining, everyone seems to know the one "right" way to do everything but none of them agree on what that is, typical construction people lol!
Thank you for making this awesome video. I spent 2 years gutting my house & refurbishing it. I'm ready to sell. And build a tiny house free & clear. Everything should be easy. But was at a lost with the metal framing. But this video answered the many questions I had. I don't know what's up with the thumbs down. I guess hater will be everywhere. But I appreciate you two taking the time to make this video & help others out. What more could you ask from someone, than taking time out there day to share what they learn. They didn't need to do that. Ungrateful people. Great video. No annoying music, good quality, both of you spoke nice an clear an easy to understand, nice close ups. Everything I wanted to see they did. Perfect video
You are correct in the fact that it is impossible to find information about using metal framing materials. Great video, packed with excellent information. Thanks for posting this video.
Not dissing anyone !!! You grade of workmanship !!!👍👍 F.E.I. There are different gauges of metal studs. Some nonstrutural, and some are even rated for framing commercial construction. And can be galvanized to stop rust. But cost more and heavier.
I found this video very informative! I used to demo work when I was like 18 and learned to take apart basically any wood or metal framed structure with a shovel and a sledgehammer. I never learned how to build with it! Very clear and concise examples and then explanation/demonstration Thank you!
I like where you are going with the light weight structure. Think in the lines of keeping it square, plumb, and level. Shear the exterior (plywood or OSB) vertically, screw pattern of 4” o/c perimeter, 6” field. Which ever material you choose for the finished exterior, be sure you have a vapor barrier under it. And think of how it ties into the roof. Always think about water penetration. Wrap your window and door openings with a 3/4” plywood, or a 2x4 buck-your rough opening (metal studs) will be larger to allow for the added wood wrap. This give you something to attach to-windows/doors. Same principle for the interior doors. PEX works great for your plumbing, protection from sharp edges. PEX has so many benefits. Buy the specialty tools, sell after your project is completed. After all the (plumb, level, square) framing (all walls-interior/exterior) is complete ,wiring (line volt and low volt) plumbing (supply, drain, vent), and you are happy. With the exterior base siding already screwed off (pattern), have the roof and exterior walls foamed. Foaming your build adds so much more strength, it basically glues every stud, plate, crevice together. The insulation value, along with the structural value creates a quality build with assurance. Just my .02.
ima bemedou- What’s your base/floor? I guessing it’s either wood or concrete, generally your walls are attached to the floor. The bottom plate of your walls are anchored
Yeah I want to build something for my Ford Ranger camper and I was thinking about this this morning and I find out that people are using this this material very nicely so thank you for you and the other people doing this technology
Wow, lots of nice tips for diy advice. A very lively discussion going on in the comments section, as well. I'm a metal fabricator for many years and thinking of doing my own tiny home/RV as well. My thoughts, because of my tools+experience, would be to build myself a fully welded (1-1/2" or 2" thick) space frame structure from thin-wall box section steel tubing. Exterior skin would be metal roofing/siding, probably plug/spot welded onto the steel frame. Insulation would be foam boards (possibly thin sips panels) on the inside + in the frame spacing. I like the idea of making the whole unit lightweight enough to tow like an RV. Sun awnings, of the same matching roofing panels, would fold down fitting tightly over the exterior walls covering all doors and windows (which would be inset into the walls) for security during storage or travel, as well as fire/theft resistance when left stored unattended.
Give you both a lot of credit for undertaking this project. My only concern is the screws coming loose. Not sure how much you are going to be traveling with your tiny house but if a lot there is a good chance with the vibration from moving it the screws will come loose. My suggestion is attach the frame members by welding them together. There are often used arc welders for sale on craigslist. If no experience welding, just do a little practice and you will have it. Many how to videos on youtube. Fairly simple process. Great money and time saving on your build. Especially if pre-drilling the holes. No screw heads to deal with. Anyway it worked for me. Have towed my DIY tiny home/travel trailer many thousands of miles all over the US and Canada in the last five years. Still solid as a rock. And by the way before doing my build, I had no previous welding experience. And the welder I bought on craigslist? Resold it on craigslist once my build was completed.
scoring with a knife is a neat trick. I know most pros just cut with the snips, but there's a real knack to that, and very awkward if you're a newbie ;-) Good job!
THIS WAS SUCH A HELPFUL VIDEO. I've been wondering for a long time what everyone means when they say that all the info you need to build a tiny house is online. Sure it might be but it's scattered all over the internet and almost impossible to decipher. I'm so excited to follow your build and get some more step by step advice. Thanks!
Part of my electrical apprenticeship I worked with steel stud. I would agree its much lighter then wood, it conducts less outside tempretures through its span outside to inside. Today composite boards are the way to go, lightweight, insulated and outer surface prepped.
When cutting out for a through stud, use a 1.5" hole saw. It will take out enough material to make cutting it the rest quick and simple. If you have many to do, use a 8" drill press. They are cheap and you can set it up with a jig to hold the stud tight. Much quicker and safer.
We move more, faster, and farther than we expected or planned for. This is a reoccurring theme in history. We can do our best, try new, follow old, and always there will be lessons learned becuse we aren't able to be perfect in every situation. I'm glad, learning is one of my favorite things. 📱😉✌🏼
Thanks for putting this video- were looking to build a very lightweight tiny house and you're absolutely right, NO ONE knows how to build with metal (it seems) especially on a DIY level! We were wondering could you tell us the total weight of the steel required to make your metal frame? And roughly how much did it cost to build the frame? Did you consider aluminium, any advantaged/disadvantages?
Freedom Strider The cost for the frame was around $450, the framing with no sheathing was around 300 lbs. we didn’t go with aluminum because it’s very hard to find, it’s lighter than steel that also means it’s weaker. I don’t think there’s much of an advantage to using it. Hope that helps!
So the 300lbs weight (136kg) is the total weight of all 4 walls or the one you showed in the video? What is the weight bearing force on your steel walls - will they be strong enough to support a second floor as the steel looks very thin? We are totally new to this, if you couldn't guess. Cheers for the answer. :D
Freedom Strider yes that’s the total weight for all walls. The weight bearing question is kind of hard to answer. It can depend on the gauge of your steel. Also metal framing gets its strength/rigidity from sheathing and how well you triangulate pieces. That’s why you see those truss pieces around our doors and windows. That’s also why in another video we did metal strapping across our frame.
While in the Navy in the 90's stationed in Guam we used aluminum to frame up walls, windows, and doors. Termites proof. We also put wood into the back of were door hinge's would go. Worked great easy to use.
I would like to thank you 2 for this excellent video.. 5 stars! 1 - Production was excellent! What really struck me was your excellent audio.. There are so many vids with terrible audio! 2 - Your presentation was very coherent and easy to watch! 3 - I really learned a few things.. What's most impressive to me is that I should know some of the things that you taught me! I have been a professional electrician for almost 35 years.. In that time I've been exposed that material working alongside carpenters.. I never really got a chance to learn some of these things because I was busy doing electrical work.. I'm glad I ran across this guy's.. Keep up the good work and thanks!
great video, i too have worked w metal studs in construction and if I was to build a trailer I would use 20 gage studs rather than 22 ga. as shown still lighter than wood but much stronger than 22 ga.
I used to do thaT kind of steel framing. I think you did a really good job. A chop saw with a metal blade would make it quicker if it were an option, Not a critique just a thought. A lot of hard work went into that u should be proud.
I agree with @singleman1986. Well done kids!! I am a retired NAVY Builder SEABEE. I have worked with all the trades. I have been retired as long as in. Products have changed so much in tech and cost. Metal framing is not rocket science. And you both looked at all aspects before you started your tiny house. Safety first. Goggles, full clothing and shoes? OK? On the self-tap screws- there are little short black ones. Those big one cost more money and do the same job? On your door and window openings, you can insert 2 x 4s. Run a common on each side from sill plate to top plate- secure. Same with windows. I gives your framework additional strength. And not that much extra weight. Use pressure treated lumber. Minimize your metal waste when configuring cutouts for wiring/water lines. Just cut the sides off and fold back or under. You can come back and incorporate with lumber or new inserts. Bend the flaps into structure and secure. Looks great guys. Hope this helps a bit.
Thanks friends. I am designing a small RV built on a tiny home trailer. I'll be basically on the road a lot more than a tiny home. So weight matters and so does strength and as an engineer, who by the way loves to work with wood, I just can't get past the benefits of working with steel frame vs. wood for this project. Just makes sense. Don't forget other benefits besides weight and gas and easy to do with hand tools...there's also better fire protection and you don't have to worry about bugs and nothing will swell or shrink over time with changes in moisture. The only real "cons" that I can think of? One is that you have to learn how to frame with steel and that's odd when you already know how to use wood. But isn't EVERYTHING a new learning experience on a tiny home? And maybe the biggest "con" of all is that metal studs are horrible for thermal break. I plan to live with that without going crazy trying to chase that. I'm going to use Intello Air Tight Building wrap and live with thermal breaks. Some air exchange is actually good. I also plan to use high density foam insulation as that will make the whole thing as rigid as possible. Plus I'm going to finish the exterior with 1/4" plywood and glass it over with polyster resin and chopped strand mat and top coat with two coats of gel coat that bonds to the polyester. When I'm done I should have a solid exo-skeleton with light weight studs and super rigid closed cell high density foam. I'm guessing I can then bounce it around on backroads with no worries! It will be plain boxy shape single story and just white color. Nothing to draw attention. Inside however is a different story! I want it to look like a rustic cabin in the woods but with super good LED lighting! I subscribed to your channel because I love what you taught me here and I appreciate you for it and I want to find all your other vids. Thanks. Oh, Joe and Sharon here.
I like it! Definitely going to do this. I was looking at prefab houses that the Chinese make. I noticed the metal studs. I like how you don't need any saws to cut
Hi, I have done a lot of similar work on sheet metal cable tray and found all the tricks you have just shown and I applaud your ingenuity. I might however suggest that when you are cutting a box hole through the rail try drilling the same hole in the diagonal corners and start in both directions you may find this easier. Also there is a punch though crimping tool for the joints but due to the transport movement this may not be as secure as the screws regards
I've watched many other metal framing videos, and yours is absolutely the best one out there. Very well done, I learned a lot from this! Thinking about using this or resilient hat channel for framing the inside of my Sprinter van. This way I've got room for insulation and more importantly radiant barrier like reflectix. What do you think? Will that work?
I really enjoyed your video. This has encouraged me to use metal studs and tracks on my tiny home when I get around to building it! You have gained another subscriber. Thanks
I liked how YOU Scored the hard side of the metal stud to insure the straight cuts when You bend back the stud back back and forth. Quick tip. When go to screw in the studs & track together us metal Vise Clamps I stead of Ur block Jig. but I did like Ur block JiG method, ingenious...
Really amazing so I dont need a welder, phew. I was thinking of hiring one tbh. But if I could do it myself and save the extra $1000-$2000 or so that would be even better.
If you have a lot of metal studs to cut invest in a cold saw. About 200 bucks, way easier to make clean square cuts. A cold saw is basically a chop saw with a carbide blade on it that rotates quite a bit slower than a typical miter saw.
I don't know the manufacturer. But there is a version of this with a slot in the 2 clamping pads that's big enough to drive a tek screw through. I watched a guy zipping these studs together with this clamp and was a-fucking-mazed at how fast and slick it went with those clamps. Zero bending and shifting when you push against it.
Im very interested in buldiding.a tiny house with steel studs also . But i have only one concern . Have you .considered that you are building a huge lighting rod. With all the thunderstorms? How are you doing to ground the building and prevent a lighting strict?
I enjoyed your advice. I suspect you are all done with your steel stud building but if you do some in the future my suggestion would to buy all 3 types of snips. Red, Greed and the ones you have yellow. Yellow are for cutting straight lines, The red and green will allow you for cut left and right with more ease and accuracy.. Don West Kelowna BC Canada
Nice job guys! You lost me about 1 min into the video because I don't have any DIY DNA in me whatsoever as the most complex thing I've ever "built" was putting up a shower curtain lol... so I will NOT be building my own tiny house HOWEVER these vids have super informative content to bring to the table to discuss with any builder :)
Not meant to be critical but helpful. #1 it looks like you were using 25 gauge metal, you should not use self drilling screws for 25 gauge they strip out. Use small pointer screws they are the correct screws for 25 gauge and you can push them through with out predrilling. self taping screws are for 20 gauge and thicker material. #2 when cutting off a portion of a stud always cut the top off the stud , the smaller holes go to the bottom. top hole 1-1/2" then 3/4" then usually a drilled hole keep the holes line up, its ok to cut through the holes in the stud don't worry about doing that the stud will be plenty strong, keep the holes lined up. The holes are punched into the studs so a framing material called CRC or Cold Rolled Channel either 1-1/2" in the big hole or 3/4" in the smaller section can be run through the wall as a stiffener, sorta like blocking on a wood framed wall. #3 If you need a header build what's called a box header, I don't know how to explain a box header using words?????just google (how to build a metal stud box header.) might as well google (cold rolled metal framing material) #4 shear strength or diagonal bracing can be accomplished by screwing flat strap material in a X pattern one on the inside and one on the outside of the wall it gives the wall shear strength and holds the wall square.
we are designing up our steel frame tiny house currently in Australia as we have a lot less legal weight limits then the states, I'm tossing up getting a place to precut and pre drill everything for us or doing it ourselves... our build will have one really cool design feature that may make it a little more tricky but all in all I'm so happy that I popped over fro mic the vegan to check your build out.. also when designing your headers above your doors and windows is there a certain thickness you need to do it to as I have been trying to find that out but have had no luck yet .. cheers
I think if you have the extra money and would like to save on time then having some pre-assembly makes a lot of sense! We are actually more confined by size limits than weight limits in the US (although things can vary state by state). Our personal build is very weight dependent since our trailer has a lower weight limit than standard tinys. I dont think its necessary to having a different gauge steel for windows and doors. Though, you will need to make sure your openings for them have a flat surface all the way around, which I think Mikey briefly touches on around 2:28 in the video. You can also see the triangulation technique we used to distribute the weight on those areas.. Thats the slanted/triangle looking pieces you see on the frame. Hope that helps!!
Your video has convinced my partner and I to build with the same material. I do have a couple questions.. 1. Have you driven the tiny anywhere? 2. What gauge did you use? 3. How has it been holding up in weather,driving, and high winds?
Thank you for this video. I am going to be trying my hand at a metal framed tiny house/greenhouse (long story) and this really helped me visual my approach.
me too. tips from videos I found.. 1) always cut studs from top. so all holes stay in line for plumbing and electrical wiring stay in line .hope that helps. I,m trying learn this as well.
Hi, is there some online program that you used to calculate the spacing of studs and others so walls are statically optimized? I would like to build a shed with metal framing, but I am not completely sure in static aspect. Thanks.
I've see a couple of suggestions that using screws in a moveable tiny house is a bad idea. From what I understand they tend to back out when subject to vibration. So the "experts" I've see use rivets. They also clean and use a special metal glue at every connection. A lot of extra work I know, but if true worth it. Reason for the "cleaning"? The metal has an oily finish, which needs to be gone for the glue to hold. Great looking job, and all the luck to you.
Its been a couple of years now, How have the screws holding all the framing together working out?? How much have you traveled with it, as in total miles?? Many of the forums say these screws will pop, brake or ware out the holes made into metal framing. Id like to know real results.
@@adrianalvarado3436 love that question. As with ANY metal that moves you are correct That would take a lot of miles to pull all those screws free to the point of failure. A mini house on wheels. Not a ravel trailer.
Thanks so much for this vid guys! Just getting ready to build my first and this has helped in the decision making a LOT. New subscriber. You guys rock!
Good job guys for with the tools you have. As of snips you can also get red for left hand cuts and green for right hand cuts. To bend your but joints ,use a pair of duck bill vice grips. With cutting to size I would use a friction saw . For what you have got ,well done.
Great video! Very informative. I was hoping you would show how you bolt them together as well... and how to attach the stud/walls to the trailer. Perhaps you cover that in the next video? :)
Just found this channel from Mic's latest Mic. the Vegan video and watched all your vids and followed your instagram. Glad I noticed it early on! This will be fun to follow. Love the efficiency of the marked tools and the jigs you made. But wear gloves! And closed shoes.
Love the build! To lighten further consider 1 in polystyrene sheet cabinetry fiberglassed with wood inserts at hinge points. Could always put 1/8 luan on if u like wood look.
As a retired 'sheet metal' man, I saw a few things I'd have done differently. BUT, they were so minor I'll not bring them up. All said and done, you did an EXCELLENT job considering your first experience and equipment used! A BIG 'Well Done' from a pro.
Hey man I'm curious as to what you would have done differently as I am endeavoring to construct a tiny house frame with steel stud.
@@andrewerickson6690 Yea im sure they would like to know to as to learn. I damn sure want to know.
You don’t put a track in the middle of the wall to stiffen up studs you use cold rolled channel with clips which fits into the slots in each stud
@@amodestmousefan hey - can you post a link to examplify the cold rolled channel ? just trying to go through all improvements before i start buying material for a new project
António Peres Gomes can’t post links on here you can google it
This video is everything I needed!!! My husband and I are building our tiny house w aluminum framing and we weren't really sure where to start. I'm SO grateful you took the time to share this information! I had built the "stud-cutting" part up to be so difficult in my head and it's so much simpler than I'd expected! Thank you thank you thank you!
So Guys I am a retired Carpenter I framed metal studs for 40 years you did well for a first attemp few things could have done for ease but all and all good job
I am glad I found your channel. I watch Mic the Vegan. I need to build a tiny house and was going to pay $20,000 for a shell. Knowing these skills will save me so much money!🌞
I have been looking for vids on metal stud building from start to finish... You folks have the Only ones, and the most thorough ones for anyone to learn how to do it!! I've been gathering materials for 3 years so that by the time I'm ready to build and it's done, I'll own it! Thank you so much for giving all the little details!!
Smart to buy before building. Not only do you own it when you build it but you also can figure out how to fit the stuff in as you build it rather than as an after thought.
3 years after this vid was made i found it and you guys just gave me a great idea. Thank you and i subscribed...yay...!
OMG, marking the tool instead of the beam...brilliant!
Thank you! I've been researching metal stud construction on youtube and google for the last week. This was by far the most
informative and well presented video so far. Keep up the good work and please continue sharing your adventure. Subscribed and liked immediately!
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saetyr could you please elaborate on this?
me too. tips from videos I found.. 1) always cut studs from top. so all holes stay in line for plumbing and electrical wiring stay in line .hope that helps. I,m trying learn this as well.
Well done. If you have a framing design in mind, the company that supplies the studs. Can often run your plan into one of their own programs in their computer and then they will pre cut every piece. Which can cost a bit more but will save a lot of time. Plus the pre cut studs, plates etc, will have a little indentation so the fixing, screws will sit more flush to the wall. If you are using metal exterior lining, be sure to use some sort of thermal break. The same company should be able to get these foam strips which can be instaled between the buliding paper and metal cladding. All the best
I'm in New York and having a hard time finding a company that does this. Any suggestions?
Great to know...but whats the name of that comp who will do this.
Thank you both so much for making this video! I have more time than money and am considering metal framing my tiny house, which is just a trailer for now. This is EXACTLY what I needed to see!!
This is the most informative video I've come across!!! I wanted to build with a steel frame structure & was pricing them out, it's expensive. Now, thanks these wonderful people I can build my own. Great job! Thank you for uploading.
Superb video! I've been remodeling houses for years but never use metal studs so these tips are priceless, I'm getting ready to build my tiny house and decided on metal for weight reasons. Btw, the comment section was entertaining, everyone seems to know the one "right" way to do everything but none of them agree on what that is, typical construction people lol!
Thank you for making this awesome video. I spent 2 years gutting my house & refurbishing it. I'm ready to sell. And build a tiny house free & clear. Everything should be easy. But was at a lost with the metal framing. But this video answered the many questions I had. I don't know what's up with the thumbs down. I guess hater will be everywhere. But I appreciate you two taking the time to make this video & help others out. What more could you ask from someone, than taking time out there day to share what they learn. They didn't need to do that. Ungrateful people. Great video. No annoying music, good quality, both of you spoke nice an clear an easy to understand, nice close ups. Everything I wanted to see they did. Perfect video
You are correct in the fact that it is impossible to find information about using metal framing materials. Great video, packed with excellent information. Thanks for posting this video.
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I'd just use an angle grinder and 1mm cutting discs. Will make real short work of this. Great video 👍
Not dissing anyone !!!
You grade of workmanship !!!👍👍
F.E.I. There are different gauges of metal studs. Some nonstrutural, and some are even rated for framing commercial construction. And can be galvanized to stop rust. But cost more and heavier.
I found this video very informative! I used to demo work when I was like 18 and learned to take apart basically any wood or metal framed structure with a shovel and a sledgehammer. I never learned how to build with it! Very clear and concise examples and then explanation/demonstration Thank you!
I like where you are going with the light weight structure. Think in the lines of keeping it square, plumb, and level. Shear the exterior (plywood or OSB) vertically, screw pattern of 4” o/c perimeter, 6” field. Which ever material you choose for the finished exterior, be sure you have a vapor barrier under it. And think of how it ties into the roof. Always think about water penetration.
Wrap your window and door openings with a 3/4” plywood, or a 2x4 buck-your rough opening (metal studs) will be larger to allow for the added wood wrap. This give you something to attach to-windows/doors. Same principle for the interior doors.
PEX works great for your plumbing, protection from sharp edges. PEX has so many benefits. Buy the specialty tools, sell after your project is completed.
After all the (plumb, level, square) framing (all walls-interior/exterior) is complete ,wiring (line volt and low volt) plumbing (supply, drain, vent), and you are happy. With the exterior base siding already screwed off (pattern), have the roof and exterior walls foamed.
Foaming your build adds so much more strength, it basically glues every stud, plate, crevice together. The insulation value, along with the structural value creates a quality build with assurance.
Just my .02.
Excuse me, couple questions here. If i build a 5x8 shell sheathed in hardy osb, regular insulation, wall paneling... will this be too light?
ima bemedou-
What’s your base/floor? I guessing it’s either wood or concrete, generally your walls are attached to the floor. The bottom plate of your walls are anchored
ima bemedou-
Too light for what? What is too light-weight wise. Getting blown away?
@@sirdirtydog705 my base is a flat bed 5x8 trailer. I'd like to keep it under 1k. It'll be moblie showroom for 1 customer at a time 😁
@@sirdirtydog705 and thanks for replying!!!!
Yeah I want to build something for my Ford Ranger camper and I was thinking about this this morning and I find out that people are using this this material very nicely so thank you for you and the other people doing this technology
Wow, lots of nice tips for diy advice. A very lively discussion going on in the comments section, as well.
I'm a metal fabricator for many years and thinking of doing my own tiny home/RV as well. My thoughts, because of my tools+experience, would be to build myself a fully welded (1-1/2" or 2" thick) space frame structure from thin-wall box section steel tubing. Exterior skin would be metal roofing/siding, probably plug/spot welded onto the steel frame. Insulation would be foam boards (possibly thin sips panels) on the inside + in the frame spacing.
I like the idea of making the whole unit lightweight enough to tow like an RV. Sun awnings, of the same matching roofing panels, would fold down fitting tightly over the exterior walls covering all doors and windows (which would be inset into the walls) for security during storage or travel, as well as fire/theft resistance when left stored unattended.
Give you both a lot of credit for undertaking this project. My only concern is the screws coming loose. Not sure how much you are going to be traveling with your tiny house but if a lot there is a good chance with the vibration from moving it the screws will come loose. My suggestion is attach the frame members by welding them together. There are often used arc welders for sale on craigslist. If no experience welding, just do a little practice and you will have it. Many how to videos on youtube. Fairly simple process. Great money and time saving on your build. Especially if pre-drilling the holes. No screw heads to deal with. Anyway it worked for me. Have towed my DIY tiny home/travel trailer many thousands of miles all over the US and Canada in the last five years. Still solid as a rock. And by the way before doing my build, I had no previous welding experience. And the welder I bought on craigslist? Resold it on craigslist once my build was completed.
Great piece of advice, thanks Daniel!
Hi Lindy & Mike
Thanks for sharing this Informative Video. Good Luck with your Build.
Cheers from Toronto, Canada!
scoring with a knife is a neat trick. I know most pros just cut with the snips, but there's a real knack to that, and very awkward if you're a newbie ;-) Good job!
This is SO informative, I'm so glad I found your channel finally!
Really useful content - I was wondering how to build with metal studs! Thanks a bunch!
Wow love this! Thought you needed some fancy tools and skills to cut the steel. Seems even easier than dealing with a circular saw!!
Great video. Lots of ideas of how to build with metal. Thank you.
THIS WAS SUCH A HELPFUL VIDEO. I've been wondering for a long time what everyone means when they say that all the info you need to build a tiny house is online. Sure it might be but it's scattered all over the internet and almost impossible to decipher. I'm so excited to follow your build and get some more step by step advice. Thanks!
Part of my electrical apprenticeship I worked with steel stud. I would agree its much lighter then wood, it conducts less outside tempretures through its span outside to inside. Today composite boards are the way to go, lightweight, insulated and outer surface prepped.
When cutting out for a through stud, use a 1.5" hole saw. It will take out enough material to make cutting it the rest quick and simple. If you have many to do, use a 8" drill press. They are cheap and you can set it up with a jig to hold the stud tight. Much quicker and safer.
Are through-studs a good idea?
It seems like headers would be easier and stronger. (IDK though)
Such patience and hard work. I'm impressed.
We move more, faster, and farther than we expected or planned for. This is a reoccurring theme in history. We can do our best, try new, follow old, and always there will be lessons learned becuse we aren't able to be perfect in every situation. I'm glad, learning is one of my favorite things. 📱😉✌🏼
Many places will build the shell for you. You do the finish work. Safety is for everyone on the road.
Thanks for putting this video- were looking to build a very lightweight tiny house and you're absolutely right, NO ONE knows how to build with metal (it seems) especially on a DIY level!
We were wondering could you tell us the total weight of the steel required to make your metal frame? And roughly how much did it cost to build the frame? Did you consider aluminium, any advantaged/disadvantages?
Freedom Strider The cost for the frame was around $450, the framing with no sheathing was around 300 lbs. we didn’t go with aluminum because it’s very hard to find, it’s lighter than steel that also means it’s weaker. I don’t think there’s much of an advantage to using it. Hope that helps!
So the 300lbs weight (136kg) is the total weight of all 4 walls or the one you showed in the video? What is the weight bearing force on your steel walls - will they be strong enough to support a second floor as the steel looks very thin? We are totally new to this, if you couldn't guess. Cheers for the answer. :D
Freedom Strider yes that’s the total weight for all walls. The weight bearing question is kind of hard to answer. It can depend on the gauge of your steel. Also metal framing gets its strength/rigidity from sheathing and how well you triangulate pieces. That’s why you see those truss pieces around our doors and windows. That’s also why in another video we did metal strapping across our frame.
This is perfect. Love the tips Mike and Lindy.
You deserve a medal for your medal
While in the Navy in the 90's stationed in Guam we used aluminum to frame up walls, windows, and doors. Termites proof. We also put wood into the back of were door hinge's would go. Worked great easy to use.
Want to hardside my popup camper, was thinking about wood with metal siding. You’ve given me another option to think about. Thanks nice video‼️😎
I would like to thank you 2 for this excellent video.. 5 stars!
1 - Production was excellent! What really struck me was your excellent audio.. There are so many vids with terrible audio!
2 - Your presentation was very coherent and easy to watch!
3 - I really learned a few things.. What's most impressive to me is that I should know some of the things that you taught me! I have been a professional electrician for almost 35 years.. In that time I've been exposed that material working alongside carpenters.. I never really got a chance to learn some of these things because I was busy doing electrical work.. I'm glad I ran across this guy's.. Keep up the good work and thanks!
Thanks for making this! I think metal is definitely the way to go.
great video, i too have worked w metal studs in construction and if I was to build a trailer I would use 20 gage studs rather than 22 ga. as shown still lighter than wood but much stronger than 22 ga.
Man 20 gauge is shit nowadays.
Those arent even 22ga those are 25 ga Home Depot/ Lowes studs. That why they were have problems with the self tapping screw.
Excellent video folks
I used to do thaT kind of steel framing. I think you did a really good job. A chop saw with a metal blade would make it quicker if it were an option, Not a critique just a thought. A lot of hard work went into that u should be proud.
Agreed. Not only faster but easier too.
Omg you guys..what a perfect idea..using metal studs 👌great job you two
Locking c clamps when building with steel studs helps a lot .
I agree with @singleman1986. Well done kids!! I am a retired NAVY Builder SEABEE. I have worked with all the trades. I have been retired as long as in. Products have changed so much in tech and cost. Metal framing is not rocket science. And you both looked at all aspects before you started your tiny house. Safety first. Goggles, full clothing and shoes? OK? On the self-tap screws- there are little short black ones. Those big one cost more money and do the same job? On your door and window openings, you can insert 2 x 4s. Run a common on each side from sill plate to top plate- secure. Same with windows. I gives your framework additional strength. And not that much extra weight. Use pressure treated lumber. Minimize your metal waste when configuring cutouts for wiring/water lines. Just cut the sides off and fold back or under. You can come back and incorporate with lumber or new inserts. Bend the flaps into structure and secure. Looks great guys. Hope this helps a bit.
I'm not gonna build a house any time soon but it is very interesting and inspiring to see how it's done.
Thanks friends. I am designing a small RV built on a tiny home trailer. I'll be basically on the road a lot more than a tiny home. So weight matters and so does strength and as an engineer, who by the way loves to work with wood, I just can't get past the benefits of working with steel frame vs. wood for this project. Just makes sense. Don't forget other benefits besides weight and gas and easy to do with hand tools...there's also better fire protection and you don't have to worry about bugs and nothing will swell or shrink over time with changes in moisture. The only real "cons" that I can think of? One is that you have to learn how to frame with steel and that's odd when you already know how to use wood. But isn't EVERYTHING a new learning experience on a tiny home? And maybe the biggest "con" of all is that metal studs are horrible for thermal break. I plan to live with that without going crazy trying to chase that. I'm going to use Intello Air Tight Building wrap and live with thermal breaks. Some air exchange is actually good. I also plan to use high density foam insulation as that will make the whole thing as rigid as possible. Plus I'm going to finish the exterior with 1/4" plywood and glass it over with polyster resin and chopped strand mat and top coat with two coats of gel coat that bonds to the polyester. When I'm done I should have a solid exo-skeleton with light weight studs and super rigid closed cell high density foam. I'm guessing I can then bounce it around on backroads with no worries! It will be plain boxy shape single story and just white color. Nothing to draw attention. Inside however is a different story! I want it to look like a rustic cabin in the woods but with super good LED lighting! I subscribed to your channel because I love what you taught me here and I appreciate you for it and I want to find all your other vids. Thanks. Oh, Joe and Sharon here.
im thinking about building a tiny house, and i planed to use sheet metal for my build. Thankyou for the pointers.
Nice video. We manufacture light steel studs and other framing members. All are pre-cut precisely in the factory. It could save a lot of time.
What is the name of your company?
@@greenrunconstruction-gener9323 Reachfly Prefab House. A China company.
I like it! Definitely going to do this. I was looking at prefab houses that the Chinese make. I noticed the metal studs. I like how you don't need any saws to cut
Hi, I have done a lot of similar work on sheet metal cable tray and found all the tricks you have just shown and I applaud your ingenuity. I might however suggest that when you are cutting a box hole through the rail try drilling the same hole in the diagonal corners and start in both directions you may find this easier. Also there is a punch though crimping tool for the joints but due to the transport movement this may not be as secure as the screws regards
Nice job! Thinking about building a caper on my truck with these and aluminum frame.
I've watched many other metal framing videos, and yours is absolutely the best one out there. Very well done, I learned a lot from this! Thinking about using this or resilient hat channel for framing the inside of my Sprinter van. This way I've got room for insulation and more importantly radiant barrier like reflectix. What do you think? Will that work?
Nice video. However you should have really used rivets, actually staggered double rivets on each join.
You guys are great doers and not talkers , best thing is that you will not have a 30 year mortgage to pay .God bless
Very nice!
Thank you!
I was going to do something else; but, this explains how easy it us to save so much weight - no brainer!
I really enjoyed your video. This has encouraged me to use metal studs and tracks on my tiny home when I get around to building it! You have gained another subscriber. Thanks
Thx for the info. I’m just starting out on diy and have chosen steel. So thx for the info.
Lifesaver! thanks for sharing!
I liked how YOU Scored the hard side of the metal stud to insure the straight cuts when You bend back the stud back back and forth.
Quick tip. When go to screw in the studs & track together us metal Vise Clamps I stead of Ur block Jig. but I did like Ur block JiG method, ingenious...
I just love how you two love each other and this project is such a great way to be eco and spend time! You two are great AF, keep it up!
I've been a union carpenter for years. No you didn't miss anything, given the screws available you did great work.
Great instructional video. Thank you!
Thanks, I found this usful for my plan to build a bench for my rocket stove mass heater. I clicked here cause I recognized Mike, vegan power!!😊
Cool. It's a goal of mine to have a tiny house in Spain where I can grow some fruits.
This is so helpful! Thank you so much.
GREAT TIPS and very well presented. Good camera work and audio is excellent. Good Job -- thanks!
Really amazing so I dont need a welder, phew.
I was thinking of hiring one tbh.
But if I could do it myself and save the extra $1000-$2000 or so that would be even better.
If you have a lot of metal studs to cut invest in a cold saw. About 200 bucks, way easier to make clean square cuts. A cold saw is basically a chop saw with a carbide blade on it that rotates quite a bit slower than a typical miter saw.
Use c-clamp vise grips to hold the studs to the track, makes for easy screwing and doesn't bend.
I don't know the manufacturer. But there is a version of this with a slot in the 2 clamping pads that's big enough to drive a tek screw through. I watched a guy zipping these studs together with this clamp and was a-fucking-mazed at how fast and slick it went with those clamps. Zero bending and shifting when you push against it.
Im very interested in buldiding.a tiny house with steel studs also . But i have only one concern . Have you .considered that you are building a huge lighting rod.
With all the thunderstorms? How are you doing to ground the building and prevent a lighting strict?
I enjoyed your advice. I suspect you are all done with your steel stud building but if you do some in the future my suggestion would to buy all 3 types of snips. Red, Greed and the ones you have yellow. Yellow are for cutting straight lines, The red and green will allow you for cut left and right with more ease and accuracy..
Don
West Kelowna BC
Canada
Nice job guys! You lost me about 1 min into the video because I don't have any DIY DNA in me whatsoever as the most complex thing I've ever "built" was putting up a shower curtain lol... so I will NOT be building my own tiny house HOWEVER these vids have super informative content to bring to the table to discuss with any builder :)
This build is really cool and I love the clear and simple way you guys explain thing. You are awsome!
Not meant to be critical but helpful. #1 it looks like you were using 25 gauge metal, you should not use self drilling screws for 25 gauge they strip out. Use small pointer screws they are the correct screws for 25 gauge and you can push them through with out predrilling. self taping screws are for 20 gauge and thicker material.
#2 when cutting off a portion of a stud always cut the top off the stud , the smaller holes go to the bottom. top hole 1-1/2" then 3/4" then usually a drilled hole keep the holes line up, its ok to cut through the holes in the stud don't worry about doing that the stud will be plenty strong, keep the holes lined up. The holes are punched into the studs so a framing material called CRC or Cold Rolled Channel either 1-1/2" in the big hole or 3/4" in the smaller section can be run through the wall as a stiffener, sorta like blocking on a wood framed wall.
#3 If you need a header build what's called a box header, I don't know how to explain a box header using words?????just google (how to build a metal stud box header.) might as well google (cold rolled metal framing material)
#4 shear strength or diagonal bracing can be accomplished by screwing flat strap material in a X pattern one on the inside and one on the outside of the wall it gives the wall shear strength and holds the wall square.
Great informative video.
Very useful. Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼❤️❤️❤️
Very well made video. I learned a lot from this.
we are designing up our steel frame tiny house currently in Australia as we have a lot less legal weight limits then the states, I'm tossing up getting a place to precut and pre drill everything for us or doing it ourselves... our build will have one really cool design feature that may make it a little more tricky but all in all I'm so happy that I popped over fro mic the vegan to check your build out..
also when designing your headers above your doors and windows is there a certain thickness you need to do it to as I have been trying to find that out but have had no luck yet ..
cheers
I think if you have the extra money and would like to save on time then having some pre-assembly makes a lot of sense! We are actually more confined by size limits than weight limits in the US (although things can vary state by state). Our personal build is very weight dependent since our trailer has a lower weight limit than standard tinys. I dont think its necessary to having a different gauge steel for windows and doors. Though, you will need to make sure your openings for them have a flat surface all the way around, which I think Mikey briefly touches on around 2:28 in the video. You can also see the triangulation technique we used to distribute the weight on those areas.. Thats the slanted/triangle looking pieces you see on the frame. Hope that helps!!
one thing that is good with the studs like this is you can get better insulation in so its easier to heat and cool
Your video has convinced my partner and I to build with the same material. I do have a couple questions..
1. Have you driven the tiny anywhere?
2. What gauge did you use?
3. How has it been holding up in weather,driving, and high winds?
They didn't answer because their idea does n't work. It cannot take lateral or wind loads.
What! That's Mic the Vegan :D Vegan and tiny house, can't go wrong there buddy!
Thank you for this video. I am going to be trying my hand at a metal framed tiny house/greenhouse (long story) and this really helped me visual my approach.
me too. tips from videos I found.. 1) always cut studs from top. so all holes stay in line for plumbing and electrical wiring stay in line .hope that helps. I,m trying learn this as well.
very good ,extremely informative
Good, basic informative video!
Wonderful video my husband was an metal stud framer, the best of the best your technique looks awesome...👀
Hi, is there some online program that you used to calculate the spacing of studs and others so walls are statically optimized? I would like to build a shed with metal framing, but I am not completely sure in static aspect. Thanks.
I've see a couple of suggestions that using screws in a moveable tiny house is a bad idea. From what I understand they tend to back out when subject to vibration. So the "experts" I've see use rivets. They also clean and use a special metal glue at every connection. A lot of extra work I know, but if true worth it. Reason for the "cleaning"? The metal has an oily finish, which needs to be gone for the glue to hold. Great looking job, and all the luck to you.
Its been a couple of years now, How have the screws holding all the framing together working out?? How much have you traveled with it, as in total miles?? Many of the forums say these screws will pop, brake or ware out the holes made into metal framing. Id like to know real results.
Y is their no response yet
@@adrianalvarado3436 love that question. As with ANY metal that moves you are correct That would take a lot of miles to pull all those screws free to the point of failure. A mini house on wheels. Not a ravel trailer.
Turn your tin snips right around use the leverage. You guys for starting did amazing if you need help dont be afraid to ask.
Thanks so much for this vid guys! Just getting ready to build my first and this has helped in the decision making a LOT. New subscriber. You guys rock!
Good job guys for with the tools you have. As of snips you can also get red for left hand cuts and green for right hand cuts. To bend your but joints ,use a pair of duck bill vice grips. With cutting to size I would use a friction saw . For what you have got ,well done.
this is so helpful
Thank you, that was helpful
nice work, thanks, your a lovely couple, all the best
Great video! Very informative. I was hoping you would show how you bolt them together as well... and how to attach the stud/walls to the trailer. Perhaps you cover that in the next video? :)
Just found this channel from Mic's latest Mic. the Vegan video and watched all your vids and followed your instagram. Glad I noticed it early on! This will be fun to follow. Love the efficiency of the marked tools and the jigs you made. But wear gloves! And closed shoes.
Love the build! To lighten further consider 1 in polystyrene sheet cabinetry fiberglassed with wood inserts at hinge points. Could always put 1/8 luan on if u like wood look.
Nice design wall♥️