Symphonic Metal Mixing - Episode 2 - Dealing with Guitar Tones
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- In this episode of Symphonic Metal Mixing, I show how to setup guitar tones for clean, rhythm and lead guitars and also how to handle buses depending on the amp sims we use. Special care is given to the rhythm guitars to give them a lot of body.
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Hey im new to guitar (and new to effects aswell...). How do you go from that normal acoustic-type guitar sound at 3:37 to the heavy tone at 3:49?? Im using mixcraft 9 and dont know how I can get that tone! Please help.
The acoutic sound is the sound of the guitar with no amps and the heavy tone is using an amp simulator. That's the plugin you see me dragging to guitar track. Grab the plugin I used and if your source is good the sound should be very similar. The plugin is free and really good. ml-sound-lab.com/products/amped-roots
@@synapticschism Thank you I have the plugin now. I'm gonna test it out later today, but if it works, I gotta figure out how to make it a VST plugin for mixcraft rather than standalone as it is now. (Also were those guitar notes MIDI or real? Because I here some notes are muted/semi-muted and I heard a bend/slide in the solo guitar.)
One other decision I need to make is if I should apply effects using my physical pedal during recording or to record a dry signal. I have a strong desire for my tracks to sound like the live performance but in doing so I might lose some depth and polish. It's an internal battle. If I do too much in the production, it becomes hard to reproduce live.
I always export the DI of the guitars because that's what gives me the most flexibility but I don't think this applies universally.
Regarding the internal battle... I had that battle when I played in bands that performed live. I stopped worrying about it when I figured out that no one really notices it, only us and eventually some fans that know our songs a little bit better than most people. From that moment on I kept it consistent, e.g. if I recorded with a track with fuzz and a delay, I would have a fuzz + delay tone to play live. But I would record with the best possible gear and effects and not worry about reproducing the setup live. If you have the general tone, (almost) no one will notice.
That being said, ideally you'll want to find a guitar DI box with dual outs and record both DI (dry) and processed at the same time, twice to double track. The end result should be 4 tracks and you can try and do whatever you want with it. That's the most flexibility I can imagine for your specific sound and you wouldn't have to make that decision while tracking, only while producing and mixing.
@@synapticschism Thx!!!
That's really interesting and they sound amazing. Do you prefer using presets/patches for guitar/bass tones? I use presets pretty exclusively since they almost always sound better than what I could construct on my own. It would be interesting to see how you EQ everything for the master. I am thinking about having much steeper EQ curves for each instrument and then a much flatter / smoother curve for the master.
I prefer to pickup a preset and then making small adjustments to that preset if needed.
Regarding EQ of the master (I'm assuming you are referring to the mix bus), it's usually corrections to the overall mix. I have the "Mix Bus video" done and it should be out on Wednesday. You'll see in it that for the most part it's getting to a mixing level that doesn't fool my perception, then very light corrective EQ and also very light (but stacked) compression. Keep in mind that these light touches mostly make sense because my tracks are VST instruments which by default don't need a lot of processing.
@@synapticschism Thx for the tips!!!
I think you're right about most plugins being pretty good in the last video lol. I got a 9 string guitar, ample hellrazer I use for my rhythm along with the lead playing rhythm on a higher octave. So this allowed me to skip this one. Good work around though if you don't have a nine string lol.
Actually, I'm using Ample Guitars. All guitars in this track are Ample Guitars actually! Although I have Hellrazer, I'm using the ESP in this one. I'm always trying to add the Hellrazer but I never get the tone I want.